Cork First Year Girls Filmed Tearing Each Other Apart Over a Guy

Mensch Maschine · 11-10-2012 3:18pm

antodeco wrote: »

First years in college or first years in school? Depending on the answer my use of the video may be quite different

Yeah, school uniforms really do it. None of these civies ****e.

geeky · 11-10-2012 3:26pm

That one who videotaped it needs a slap.

The first rule about fight club, etc.

lukesmom · 11-10-2012 3:46pm

Show Time wrote: »

lukesmom wrote: »

Perhaps I am bring sexist but I make no apologies for it. To see two women fighting is degrading and They should have more respect for themselves, at least this is what I will teach my daughter.
My sons on the otherhand I wouldn't mind as much. I don't like any kind of fighting that is not controlled inside a ring but if my boys fight it won't bother me as lads are built differently to girls. They have a lot of testosterone and lads normally beat the **** out of each other and it's done. But girls are a whole lot different. The emotional abuse that can happen can be very intense. Yeah I'm a hypocrite, sexist whatever you want to call me but as a mother of two boys and one girl this is how I feel. I know my husband feels the exact same way too.

How much would you mind if your lad came home all busted up and needing a trip to the hospital.
Would you just say it was the testosterones than.

He actually came home before the summer after getting knocked to the ground and hit in the face and head by a little prick that's in his class. I went around and threatened the young lad (10) and his mother that I was going to go to the cops. I also frightened the ****e out of the young lad saying that my husband is very angry He basically came onto our estate and assaulted him. I went into the pricipal of the school also and it all got sorted out. I'm a firm believer in nipping things in the bud. My son does not like fighting he's more of a gentle lad but big and strong. He uses his brain. So yes I have had my son come home extremely distressed and it upset me so so much.

They are friends now though!

jlacey · 11-10-2012 4:11pm

disturbing i thought

Ghost Buster · 11-10-2012 4:14pm

In my day we did it stripped to the waist. Similar to Queensbury rules.
I think they called it Saville rules.

gifted · 11-10-2012 4:19pm

Jesus, I have 3 little girls and I'm terrified what they are going to face when they get to teenage years...I feel sorry for both of the girls, not confident enough to realise they are better than that.

iDann · 11-10-2012 5:34pm

I blame the school tbh, my sister is in that school in 2nd year...!

JohnMearsheimer · 11-10-2012 5:40pm

They are Christ King girls. My sister goes to school there, she said the Gardai called to the school this morning over the the whole thing. She told me the names of those involved, if she knows then I'd imagine the authorities know too. The 2 girls involved are meant to be good friends.

super_furry · 11-10-2012 5:43pm

Teenagers fight. Always have, always will. The only difference is that nowadays it's thrown up on the internet for all to see.

Dicky Pride · 11-10-2012 5:47pm

All I can say is thank christ the internet wasn't around when I was in secondary school. The place would've been shut down.

SusieBlue · 11-10-2012 5:52pm

My little brother knows one of the girls, they've both been suspended from school and the school are investigating who else was involved, and who filmed it. They seem to be taking it really seriously.

The guards are also involved, they definitely contacted the school, though I don't know if they contacted the girls' families or not.

Dangerous Man · 11-10-2012 5:54pm

Meh - crap fight. A lot of hair-pulling and no decent strikes landed. There was some good stuff on the ground - they both battled and there was quite a bit of positional change but neither was able to get distance to land anything significant. At one point Aoife had a chance to get to her feet but didn't take it; she could have ended the fight if she stood up and stamped on her opponent / kicked her in the head.

That's what Shogun would have done.

MarkHitide · 11-10-2012 6:04pm

Not a fight, a celebration-

11-10-2012 6:05pm

geeky wrote: »

That one who videotaped it needs a slap.

The first rule about fight club, etc.

Strange isn't it, posting stuff like this seems to be held as blameless but in my view is much much worse than the person who actually did the filming.

Abi · 11-10-2012 6:08pm

JohnMearsheimer wrote: »

They are Christ King girls. My sister goes to school there, she said the Gardai called to the school this morning over the the whole thing. She told me the names of those involved, if she knows then I'd imagine the authorities know too. The 2 girls involved are meant to be good friends.

Good. I hope something is done about this. It was an utter disgrace, and someone could have been badly hurt. I also hope the girl that instigated the whole thing gets punished. The girls that were fighting should be ashamed of themselves, but as for the instigator, shes a nasty piece of work. I'll leave it there, because shes someones child, but I've choice words for the likes of her.

Edit: just copped your post there White Roses, fair play.

Jimminy Mc Fukhead · 11-10-2012 7:21pm

lukesmom wrote: »

... as a mother of two boys and one girl this is how I feel. I know my husband feels the exact same way too.

What did Lukes brother do wrong?

Why don't you love Lukes brother?

mfceiling · 11-10-2012 7:25pm

Bad stuff alright - the fact that the other girls seem more interested in filming it is in itself a shame.

tommymc101 · 11-10-2012 7:33pm

Can someone send me a link to the video.

pragmatic1 · 11-10-2012 7:37pm

Seen way worse fights when I was at school. Not nice but sometimes life isn't nice.

4zn76tysfajdxp · 11-10-2012 7:39pm

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

What did Lukes brother do wrong?

Why don't you love Lukes brother?

Nothing and she does.

Luke just so happens to be her favourite, though.

dotsman · 11-10-2012 7:41pm

Does anyone know what school this is?

youreadthat · 11-10-2012 7:44pm

Not one person in that video knows how to dress.

gbee · 11-10-2012 7:46pm

dotsman wrote: »

Does anyone know what school this is?

Yes, most of us do.

Dishkah · 11-10-2012 7:49pm

I know the guy the were fighting over, he comes off as a little **** to me and in my opinion don't know why they fought over him

Jimminy Mc Fukhead · 11-10-2012 7:49pm

Selah Dry Urine wrote: »

Nothing and she does.

I've no doubt she does. Twas just a little banter.

Boards is gone very serious now adays

Dangerous Man · 11-10-2012 7:49pm

youreadthat wrote: »

Not one person in that video knows how to dress.

That's the real scandal in this video. They look terrible.

dotsman · 11-10-2012 7:51pm

gbee wrote: »

Yes, most of us do.

::D and...

Guill · 11-10-2012 7:53pm

girl2 wrote: »

Didn't watch it all. Despicable. The one at the very beginning who set it up and then walked away laughin the bit out deserves a good fückin hiding.

Strange logic...

Randy Anders · 11-10-2012 7:56pm

What the fuck, this is horrifying. I can't believe we've come this low as a species.

They are both wearing Adidas tracksuits

mahamageehad · 11-10-2012 7:57pm

Princess Peach wrote: »

I was shocked, I never saw any fights at my school

Really!? Despite the fact that myself or any of my close friends have ever been dragged into a physical fight I've seen some pretty horrible things. Teenage discos were pretty horrifying looking back on them now with some perspective!

In school at about 16/17 we had a male PE teacher. This fight had been brewing for a while, snide comments, dirty looks etc. I don't remember what tipped it off but what I vividly remember is one girl leaping over a table to drag the other girl around the room by the head of hair. Gave her a black eye and spit her lip slammin her off walls, tables. She was like a possessed animal. Myself and a friend were closest the door and we ran for the teacher, assuming their friends would pull them apart. The teacher refused to come in in case there were girls in a state of undress!

:eek: He thought it was a weird prank. When the screaming brought him in he jumped in and separated them, their friends couldn't get them apart/didn't want to be too involved. A bin full of hair there was, it was disgusting. Both were suspended but that was pretty much it.

mathepac wrote: »

If it's true that the children featured in this video are 12-14 year olds, then having the video posted or linked to here without their parents / guardians knowledge or consent is a highly questionable practice. I'm amazed no-one seems to brought it to mod's attention before I did.

Oh sorry, I just noticed that moderators have have commented on the video and left it in situ. Very strange.

I imagine if it's on facebook and youtube then it's public domain so that wouldn't be an issue.

ALso, slightly unrelated but do people not read threads anymore?!? I mean, not even the OP?? The link to the video is in the OP and the name of the school has been mentioned numerous times!!!

Guill · 11-10-2012 8:00pm

The girls in our class used to kill each other, it was horrible what went on. The lads were all grand rarely fighting.

lukesmom · 11-10-2012 8:03pm

Jimminy Mc Fukhead wrote: »

lukesmom wrote: »

... as a mother of two boys and one girl this is how I feel. I know my husband feels the exact same way too.

What did Lukes brother do wrong?

Why don't you love Lukes brother?

Lukes brother only 2 months old I've had this username years

LukeRubyAaronsmom is a bit of a mouthful!

Love my 3 children equally!

Rabidlamb · 11-10-2012 8:04pm

Usual over reaction someone think of the children response to this sort of rubbish.
I saw 10 times worse growing up when people didn't have camera phones.
Girls their age are being raped & killed everyday but because it's not filmed it doesn't register on social media.
The biggest crime here is that the uploader couldn't revolve the image 90 degrees.

daveyboy_1ie · 11-10-2012 8:05pm

youreadthat wrote: »

Not one person in that video knows how to dress.

At least you are noticing the important stuff alright. Shame it has to happen obviously but I think genuinely it’s a sign of the times. Not quite the same thing but reminds me of last week when that poor fecker in Scotland stuck his head in the bin and people spent their time filming it and uploading it to the net. How long did it take for people to actually help him? Sad really.

Abi · 11-10-2012 8:06pm

mahamageehad wrote: »

I vividly remember is one girl leaping over a table to drag the other girl around the room by the head of hair. Gave her a black eye and spit her lip slammin her off walls, tables. She was like a possessed animal. Myself and a friend were closest the door and we ran for the teacher, assuming their friends would pull them apart. The teacher refused to come in in case there were girls in a state of undress! :eek: He thought it was a weird prank. When the screaming brought him in he jumped in and separated them, their friends couldn't get them apart/didn't want to be too involved. A bin full of hair there was, it was disgusting. Both were suspended but that was pretty much it.

Jeeeesus fúcking christ. The more I read of this thread... that is just horrific. Do you remember what was done about it?

Abi · 11-10-2012 8:09pm

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Usual over reaction someone think of the children response to this sort of rubbish.
I saw 10 times worse growing up when people didn't have camera phones.
Girls their age are being raped & killed everyday but because it's not filmed it doesn't register on social media.

Are you ACTUALLY trying to put scumbags having a scrap with rape and murder on the same level??

The biggest crime here is that the uploader couldn't revolve the image 90 degrees.

Sickening.

Paddy on the Road · 11-10-2012 8:23pm

That's Tennis? I wanted the one where the chicks whale on each other!

mattjack · 11-10-2012 8:29pm

I saw a fight like that when I was 13 yrs old, it resulted in the death of a 12 yr old from horrific injuries, a bus driver having a heart attack and another child being so traumatised he went on to develop an alcohol problem as well as a history mental issues.Never mind the car park full of kids who witnessed it.

If any of my children behaved like any of the children in this video, I'd be disgusted at myself , the parents of these kids need to take a serious look at they way they are raising their kids.

Rabidlamb · 11-10-2012 8:31pm

Abi wrote: »

Sickening.

If you wish to be truly sickened I suggest you don't enter the thread on the 14 year old girl who was shot by the Taliban for promoting girl's education.
I'll save my horror for real instances of injustice, not some playground skirmish.

The only reason the school are reacting now is not because of the fight, it's because it was filmed.

HeyThereDeliah · 11-10-2012 8:34pm

mattjack wrote: »

I saw a fight like that when I was 13 yrs old, it resulted in the death of a 12 yr old from horrific injuries, a bus driver having a heart attack and another child being so traumatised he went on to develop an alcohol problem as well as a history mental issues.Never mind the car park full of kids who witnessed it.

If any of my children behaved like any of the children in this video, I'd be disgusted at myself , the parents of these kids need to take a serious look at they way they are raising their kids.

Did the bus driver hit the kids?

I don't always go along with blaming the parents, some kids are really good until they start secondary school and start hanging around with a different crowd.
Some kids can be Angels at home but devils out of it and there is the trying to be part of the gang going on as we'll.

mattjack · 11-10-2012 8:42pm

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

Did the bus driver hit the kids?

I don't always go along with blaming the parents, some kids are really good until they start secondary school and start hanging around with a different crowd.
Some kids can be Angels at home but devils out of it and there is the trying to be part of the gang going on as we'll.

It was the one the most disturbing things I ever witnessed , a 12/13 yr old beating another kid half to death, the child rolled/crawled under a bus to escape the beating he was getting.
The bus moved forward and the child was crushed in front of a carpark full of kids.

One of the disturbing issues about that clip is that kids are comfortable recording violence like without actually realising the consequences of it.
Ultimately a child could've have died there.

Children desensitized at the age ,happy to record a fight like ,knowing it'll end up on social media sites.

SusieBlue · 11-10-2012 8:44pm

Just saw on facebook that the girl that instigated it has been expelled. The other girl has been suspended pending an investigation by the board of management of the school.

Allyall · 11-10-2012 8:46pm

They'll both grow out of it, and turn into this

http://i.imgur.com/M3ObA.jpg

Forget that it ever happened.

jaffacakesyum · 11-10-2012 8:47pm

I'm not exactly shocked at the video but it's still pretty ridiculous that people are almost justifying it. "Kids will be kids" "Ah sure I saw worse in my school" "Humans will always fight"

Any 13 year olds - male or female - who have scraps like this are scangers. It's not a 'normal' thing to do and it should be heavily punished. The school and the parents are to blame (I know i know "won't somebody please think of the children" :rolleyes: )

I didn't get in any scraps in school and nobody fought. I'm not trying to act like a posh snob or anything like that, but it tends to be the rougher schools that have fights like this - the schools need to take stricter action when this stuff happens. It's a joke.

Super-Rush · 11-10-2012 8:48pm

irishbird wrote: »

Oh Colm Hayes on 2Fm was just talking about this thread

he has also lumped Boards.ie in with AskFM

Can you remember what he said?

I assume it was in relation to bullying.

cherryghost · 11-10-2012 8:49pm

I've seen worse when I was back in secondary school. There was 4 girls who all had it in for each other for about 3 years until they were split up for the Leaving. On nice days I'd go out an eat lunch at the front of the school and sometimes they'd literally just be out the school gates pulling the hair off each other. Principal suspended them at least twice iirc.

3 of them are best friends now 15 years down the line (don't know what happened to the 4th).

Giselle · 11-10-2012 8:49pm

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Usual over reaction someone think of the children response to this sort of rubbish.
I saw 10 times worse growing up when people didn't have camera phones.
Girls their age are being raped & killed everyday but because it's not filmed it doesn't register on social media.
The biggest crime here is that the uploader couldn't revolve the image 90 degrees.

An extraordinary reaction.

Just because there are worse crimes, it doesn't make this less of a crime for what it was.

Abi · 11-10-2012 8:50pm

Rabidlamb wrote: »

If you wish to be truly sickened I suggest you don't enter the thread on the 14 year old girl who was shot by the Taliban for promoting girl's education.
I'll save my horror for real instances of injustice, not some playground skirmish.

Again, you're comparing it to much bigger crimes, why are you doing that?

Madam_X · 11-10-2012 8:52pm

So because it's not what's happening under the Taliban it can't be discussed?

iDann wrote: »

I blame the school tbh, my sister is in that school in 2nd year...!

I blame the pupils fighting - how is the school to blame?!

Deleted User wrote: »

Strange isn't it, posting stuff like this seems to be held as blameless but in my view is much much worse than the person who actually did the filming.

What is?

dotsman wrote: »

::D and...

Christ The King, Turners Cross - mentioned a few times.

@Abi: in my school a girl's face was smashed until her nose cracked. The principal told her mother nothing could be done as intervention would just cause further harassment...

mahamageehad · 11-10-2012 8:53pm

Abi wrote: »

Jeeeesus fúcking christ. The more I read of this thread... that is just horrific. Do you remember what was done about it?

Yes, it was only a handful of years ago! Pretty much nothing was done. The teacher in question got a telling off for not reacting quick enough. The two girls were suspended, the victim for a few days the abuser for 2 weeks iirc. Teachers, I can think of two in particular, were making jokes about it within the week, things like still finding clumps of hair in the room.

There were a couple of fights that I can remember but you know what, they weren't the worst! It may sicken you to see kids acting like this- first class problems and all, but honestly at least they're getting their aggression out! Those two girls were friends again a few months later. Both mammies now I believe. I think girls bïtchiness and sniping and the emotional and mental abuse stays for far far longer and causes more damage than a schoolyard fight will ever do, particularly where there are no serious injuries. (Of course serious physical and mental bullying campaigns over a length of time are excluded from this)

mattjack wrote: »

I saw a fight like that when I was 13 yrs old, it resulted in the death of a 12 yr old from horrific injuries, a bus driver having a heart attack and another child being so traumatised he went on to develop an alcohol problem as well as a history mental issues.Never mind the car park full of kids who witnessed it.

If any of my children behaved like any of the children in this video, I'd be disgusted at myself , the parents of these kids need to take a serious look at they way they are raising their kids.

Did the other child push him in front of a bus of something? Christ!

Cork First Year Girls Filmed Tearing Each Other Apart Over a Guy

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