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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. [US] ** Spoilers **

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    MARVEL’S AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.

    That sounds very much like a kids show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    stevenmu wrote: »
    That sounds very much like a kids show.

    I don't know, Marvel's Agents Of Strategic Hazard Intervention Espionage Logistics Directorate has a nice ring to it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Oh good, clearly they saw my post above and changed it :) Not a huge improvement, but a little better anyway.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Latest Deadline pilot buzz article has this as a 100% guaranteed pickup :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    Latest Deadline pilot buzz article has this as a 100% guaranteed pickup :)
    was it ever in doubt really:pac::pac::pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ABC has ordered Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. to series - in the Thursday 8pm slot....which has been a black hole for years and ABC hope this will turn this timeslot around. I doubt anyone is shocked by this pickup.

    By The Power Of Whedon!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I much prefer things like that - gives more than enough to whet the appetite without going overboard.


  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭spartacus815


    The saga that began with Marvel's The Avengers continues on television. Coming soon to ABC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZE3W1SF_Q&feature=youtu.be


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    The saga that began with Marvel's The Avengers continues on television. Coming soon to ABC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFZE3W1SF_Q&feature=youtu.be

    FYP :)



    There will be a 30 second promo during the UOAT season finale.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Looks promising.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    FYP :)



    There will be a 30 second promo during the UOAT season finale.

    Is there any chance you could stop using acronyms and actually say what the shows are?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Is there any chance you could stop using acronyms and actually say what the shows are?

    I believe he means "once upon a time", but that would be OUAT.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭spartacus815




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well as a pilot it certainly looks flashy enough, but tbh whilst I enjoyed Agent Coulson as a character, I do find it just a tad weak that they've brought him back from the dead purely out of fan pressure. Resurrection is hardly a new concept in comics - death is just a revolving door now in that world - but it's a shame those charged with creating the live-action adaptations didn't take the opportunity to instill a little permanence in their mythologies (not to mention his return completely undercuts the films big emotional twist)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,780 ✭✭✭JohnK


    Was there not a bit of ambiguity in the movie as to whether he was really dead? Its been a while since I've seen it but I don’t recall that we actually saw his body and as some people pointed out at the time Fury just saying Coulson was dead in order to help motivate the avengers wouldn't have been out of character for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Well as a pilot it certainly looks flashy enough, but tbh whilst I enjoyed Agent Coulson as a character, I do find it just a tad weak that they've brought him back from the dead purely out of fan pressure. Resurrection is hardly a new concept in comics - death is just a revolving door now in that world - but it's a shame those charged with creating the live-action adaptations didn't take the opportunity to instill a little permanence in their mythologies (not to mention his return completely undercuts the films big emotional twist)

    Have you never seen a Joss Whedon show? He's well able to kill off and resurrect characters in a believable manner...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,904 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    Class! really looking forward to this.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    JohnK wrote: »
    Was there not a bit of ambiguity in the movie as to whether he was really dead? Its been a while since I've seen it but I don’t recall that we actually saw his body and as some people pointed out at the time Fury just saying Coulson was dead in order to help motivate the avengers wouldn't have been out of character for him.

    I haven't seen the Avengers since the cinema, but iirc it seemed clear to me that Coulson 'died' onscreen, heck he even died mid-sentence if my memory serves. I believe fans got all in a fluster because Nick Fury used a pack of bloodied trading cards as emotional blackmail, cards that weren't on Coulsons person when he died. Ergo, in the minds of fans, Coulson could have been alive as Fury was lying & manipulating the scenario.
    Have you never seen a Joss Whedon show? He's well able to kill off and resurrect characters in a believable manner...

    Equally, he's well able to kill off a (beloved) character and keep them dead, so that the impact it caused remains suitably raw & dramatic :) Heck if anything, Wheadon's more famous for that trick than resurrection!

    It's a personal preference, but if there's one thing I absolutely hate about comics in general is that nobody stays dead - death is a meaningless concept; give it long enough and your favorite character will be resurrected, rebooted or retconned back to life, all previous drama and conflict swept under the carpet. So it's a shame to see that bad habit is creeping into their TV & film adaptations because to me, it's fairly creatively bankrupt


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I know it's only 30 seconds but that teaser looks very cheap and screams mid 90s genre television.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,397 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    JohnK wrote: »
    Was there not a bit of ambiguity in the movie as to whether he was really dead? Its been a while since I've seen it but I don’t recall that we actually saw his body and as some people pointed out at the time Fury just saying Coulson was dead in order to help motivate the avengers wouldn't have been out of character for him.

    He was dead afaik, then fanb pressure has made them bring him back. THey even had the spear sticking out of him edited out of the film for the european dvd release, comparison of the scene here: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=67399

    There's no queston he was supposed to be dead imo then they changed their minds.

    Still have high hopes for the show, could be a lot fun though the teaser is nothing special.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    ^ don't care....Coulson was my fave character from the Iron Man movies....besides RDJ, dont care if they ressurected him....he's perfect for a tv format.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,397 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    ^ don't care....Coulson was my fave character from the Iron Man movies....besides RDJ, dont care if they ressurected him....he's perfect for a tv format.

    It kind of ruins the whole reason for the Avengers rallying together towards the end to have him not die but I suppose it doesn't really mess up continuity as it just looks like Fury tells a bigger lie than he was originally supposed to. I agree he's a perfect character to build a show around but it cheapens the film a little for me, only a little though.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Have they confirmed yet that it is the same Coulsen from the films and not some kind of twin/clone/cyborg/alternate universe/past Coulsen time-travelling to the future/hologram/etc.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,397 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    stevenmu wrote: »
    Have they confirmed yet that it is the same Coulsen from the films and not some kind of twin/clone/cyborg/alternate universe/past Coulsen time-travelling to the future/hologram/etc.

    Maybe this is Ultimate Coulson :pac:

    I'd nearly prefer a more convoluted excuse because then at least he still dies in the film :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭James74


    The most "Marvelly" type reason would probably be that Nick Fury is being a manipulative git and it was a Life Model Decoy that was killed in Avengers.

    Hope they come up with something a bit more satisfying though. But agreed, Clark Gregg was one of the best things about the film, so glad to see him in this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,435 ✭✭✭wandatowell


    Phil is a gas man


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    Man it looks great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    It actually looks like good fun to watch


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    chloe bennet is stunning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Thought we'd get Lizzy Caplan and Jesse Bradford in it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Thwip! wrote: »
    Man it looks great

    It does look great. Do I dare to hope...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    welcome to level 7,

    i could have sworn that was cobie smulders voice in one of the debriefing scenes, maybe shes might be planned to come into the show in season 2 when HIMYM finishes up,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,503 ✭✭✭✭Also Starring LeVar Burton


    I thought it was Cobie Smulders too. She could possible have a recurring role in season 1 and get bumped up in season 2. Fingers crossed.
    Looks great.
    Happy to see J. August Richards will be in the pilot at least. Hope more of the Whedonverse alum will pop up in it from time to time. ABC clearly have faith in it. It's anchoring a night of all new shows on Tuesdays. Will be interesting to see how it performs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,557 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    in before the Nathan Fillion lovers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    syklops wrote: »
    It does look great. Do I dare to hope...?

    I'm daring to
    CastorTroy wrote: »
    Thought we'd get Lizzy Caplan and Jesse Bradford in it.

    I was hoping for Caplan :/


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,397 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Looks good, could be a great way for them to introduce more obscure Marvel characters to the cinematic universe too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    To me it looks a bit like the first 2 seasons of Fringe..... am I the only one?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    To me it looks a bit like the first 2 seasons of Fringe..... am I the only one?

    It looks like a scifi based "procedural" drama, so yeah, in that sense it seems to echo Fringe (and about 90% of US drama if you axe the scifi bit). And I suspect as such, the format will run with a lot of Case of the Week templates, only with the superhero twist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    To me it looks a bit like the first 2 seasons of Fringe..... am I the only one?

    Back when Fringe was good? Yeah i thought the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Chinpool wrote: »

    That looks excellent.

    More Whedon on tv. It's about damned time. Just keep Dushku and Glau away from it. I mean, I like em and all but they spell death for any show associated with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭youngblood


    Will the pilot air this month or will it be September when the series starts???


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    cool cobie smulder is gonna be in the pilot, obviously not full time, but you never know what can happen in season 2:)

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/07/19/cobie-smulders-shield/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    you do realise the show is based on comic books, right, you know fictional storylines with advanced technology, magic and mysticism, thats the only real way it can play out, that or hes
    an interdimensional traveler
    , its not really a big surprise,


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    don ramo wrote: »
    you do realise the show is based on comic books, right, you know fictional storylines with advanced technology, magic and mysticism, thats the only real way it can play out, that or hes
    an interdimensional traveler
    , its not really a big surprise,

    I expected more from mr. wheadon, seems lazy sci-fi trope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭don ramo


    I expected more from mr. wheadon, seems lazy sci-fi trope.
    well there isnt many more ways to do it, you couldnt undo what was done the avengers, that would ruin what happened in the film, and it makes a bit of sense seeing as this will be based on the lower level recruits for S.H.I.E.L.D, i thought it was strange to have such a high ranking member of S.H.I.E.L.D running such a low level division,

    name 3 other ways they could have done it, without taking away the impact from the avengers, remember i already took
    interdimensional traveler
    ,


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