Peppa Pig is evil?

davet82 · 11-01-2012 02:18PM #1

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/parenting/peppa-pig-is-making-children-naughty-parents-fear-2982972.html

I seen this article today which i found quite amusing but I do admit my two year old has picked up some of peppa's bad habits too!

I'm just curious to see if there are any 'childrens' TV shows that you do not let your children watch?

Sleepy · 11-01-2012 02:47PM

Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.

The jumping in muddy puddles has certainly rubbed off on my daughter but she knows she only allowed to do it when she's wearing her welly boots.

Power Rangers had to get banned in our house after the 6 year old tried out some of the moves on his younger sister and got himself a hiding...

MidlandsM · 11-01-2012 02:48PM

Does Danny Dog smoke weed?

I reckon he's a stoner.

tricky D · 11-01-2012 02:59PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.

Also his unkempt bum fluff stubble.

MidlandsM wrote: »

Does Danny Dog smoke weed?

I reckon he's a stoner.

Ah ha, bad hippy stubble explained.

cynder · 11-01-2012 04:07PM

My kids have a free enough reign over the tv, they can watch anything before 9pm however my youngest now 5 gets scared of rows on the soaps so we have to turn the tv down and tell him its a scary bit. They watched Jurassic park the other day and again the 5 year old was cuddled into a ball hiding his eyes so i snuggled up to him and covered his eyes for him and told him when he could look. He loved the film even though he found it scary here and there.

The only thing that i can say i dont have on tv is WWF, hate it with a passion. They are mad into mr bean at the moment, they could watch him over and over.

Orion · 11-01-2012 04:17PM

iCarly is banned in our house. Carly herself is alright but her co-star is a right little brat. Not role models I want for my daughters.

Moonbeam · 11-01-2012 04:35PM

I don't allow anything that gets on m nerves!

We loved Peppa and never jump in muddy puddles with out our wellies on.

ash23 · 11-01-2012 04:42PM

I find iCarlys counterpart Sam a bad influence. Also Hannah Montana. My daughter loved it a couple of years ago but I thought she was obnoxious, rude, selfish and generally just a pretty bad influence.
A lot of those Disney shows have kids generally being obnoxious actually, the female charachters in particular.

She's still allowed to watch them but she knows that attitude doesn't go in our house

annamcmahon · 11-01-2012 05:55PM

HaHa. They've taken that article from the Radio Times website word for word. If the worse thing your child ever does is jump in muddy puddles and ask for chocolate cake for breakfast I think you should be happy.

CrazyRabbit · 11-01-2012 06:41PM

I was 'forced' to watch about 20 episodes of Peppa Pig when staying with my sister and her 3 year old.

I must admit that afterwards, I did feel like killing someone. Good thing the creator/scriptwriter wasn't nearby.

January · 11-01-2012 07:28PM

Max and Ruby is banned in this house, I swear if Max was my child he'd have been strung up by now, cheeky little bold buggar... and his sister thinks it's all funny and cute "ohhh Max!"

But, Peppa is not banned, we jump in muddy puddles, but you must wear your boots! And eh... if the kids ask for sweets for their breakfast they're told no and they take it, because what mammy says goes... are some parents not capable of saying no to their kids?

hoodwinked · 11-01-2012 08:36PM

Sleepy wrote: »

Well, it's certainly sexist: Daddy Pig is portrayed as a fat, overconfident oaf.
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Peppa pig is banned in our house too for the reasons above, after watching an episode with our daughter i watched a few by myself and i couldn't believe it! they are completely sexist towards men, not to mention i wasn't happy with our daughter picking up phrases like "silly daddy".

i couldn't help but wonder if it was "silly mummy" while daddy did and said the things mummy pig says, how many women's rights and parenting groups would be up in arms complaining it was a 'backwards step'. Just because its aimed at men doesn't mean we should accept it!

we much prefer shows like humf, where mummy and daddy have an equal and balanced relationship, both work, both clean up, both play with humf, both babysit...etc and we find it refreshing and more life like that humf lives in an apartment and not some mansion like most characters!

phasers · 11-01-2012 08:46PM

Peppa Pig is the only children's tv character I like!

Disney Junior is banned when I'm minding my Nephew, I hate all their stupid accents and American programmes seem so repetitive or something, imo they treat children like they're morons. Special agent Oso is the worst, IIRC I saw one once where it was showing children how to put toys into a box

lynski · 11-01-2012 10:10PM

I like peppa there is a vein of dark humor in there that i really dig - maybe i am reading too much into it.
Horrid Henry has had a recent ban due to the bad behavior it generates. Disney is not tolerated much here, I try to keep Dora and Diego to a minimum too. For some reason all disney movies seem to involve a baby animal being lost and having to find its mommy or its way home. the amount of abandonment in disney movies is mental.
I keep their tv watching to rte junior or cula4 as i prefer them to get exposed to less ads, and most of the shows are more benign, getting harder as my oldest is 5, but we are trying. much more dvd watching lately. but normally the tv is off at about 2 hrs after we get home from school run as that is enough for a day. A few peppa pigs to wind down at bedtime is the only change.
I would not let my children watch non-children's movies, soaps or more adult shows because they are for adults and they do not need to be exposed to the crap in them. Drives my mother crazy - bedtime is soap time and i won't let the tv on ;-)
I am constantly driven demented by Anthropomorphism in childrens shows (love the Wild Kratts when that gets too much) - but that is a whole other thread.

allprops · 11-01-2012 10:18PM

It's Dora I worry about, a young child with a monkey for a friend wandering on her own! Where are the parents? Where are the bloody parents?

Cat Melodeon · 11-01-2012 11:28PM

Peppa is loved in this house, by child & adult alike. When the boy gets totally wired and wound up, there's nothing like a shot of Peppa to bring him back down, cartoon ritalin. There's nothing in Peppa's behaviour that isn't normal. I encourage puddle jumping & tree climbing & spaghetti slurping & see fighting between siblings as a normal part of growing up. We only watch Cbeebies as there are no ads, as well as the odd dvd, and it's mostly only on from 5-7pm, maybe a bit more at the weekend, although it's often just background noise. I find my lad is just as likely to mimic bad behaviour from books and from other kids. It's really up to parents to lay down the boundaries & stick to them. Can't really lay the blame on a wee cartoon pig! Although I've had to hide the Dirty Bertie books, nose- picking is not something I want normalised!

ash23 · 12-01-2012 09:21AM

My daughter loved the Charlie and Lola books when she was small....particularly "I am not sleepy and I will not go to bed" and "I will not ever never eat a tomato".
She still went to bed when told and ate her veggies though so I don't think they influenced her too much.
She reads dirty bertie and horrid henry at the moment but just laughs because they're soooo gross.

When we watch tv we watch together mainly and if someone is being a brat I always say to her "oh my goodness, that's very rude/bold" and I think it reenforces what's acceptable and what isn't.

She doesn't tend to mimmick what she sees.

Sleepy · 12-01-2012 10:02AM

hoodwinked wrote: »

we much prefer shows like humf, where mummy and daddy have an equal and balanced relationship, both work, both clean up, both play with humf, both babysit...etc and we find it refreshing and more life like that humf lives in an apartment and not some mansion like most characters!

Absolutely my favourite cartoon on Nick Jr.

Anyone else notice the inherent socialist call-to-arms in Ben & Holly? The fairies are all morons that live in a palace whilst the industrious elves live in a tower block!

hoodwinked · 12-01-2012 11:13AM

phasers wrote: »

Peppa Pig is the only children's tv character I like!

Disney Junior is banned when I'm minding my Nephew, I hate all their stupid accents and American programmes seem so repetitive or something, imo they treat children like they're morons. Special agent Oso is the worst, IIRC I saw one once where it was showing children how to put toys into a box

Special agent oso is ridiculous i agree, the ripping on James Bond titles also grates on my nerves,

i don't mind mickey mouse clubhouse though, and i like that there is no ads other then whats coming on disney junior, its taught my 2 year old how to count backwards (she could already count to 12 forwards) and spell 'mouse', now she walks around the place singing "mouse M-i-c-k-e-y- m-o-u-s-e, mickey's house m-i-c-k-e-y h-o-u-s-e"

:pac:

davet82 · 12-01-2012 11:45AM

I have to say i've enjoyed some of the posts here as much as I found the article amusing that i posted

My very favourite episode of Peppa Pig involves the French Donkey, Delphine coming to visit Peppa. She is very excited to practice her English, and she asks Daddy Pig a question... ’ask away I’m an expert', he declares proudly, and the little donkey replies ’Are English split infinitives a form of irregular verb or past pronoun?’

Classic

My two year old also so loves Curious George but he dosent seem to get as much air time as the other cartoons

ash23 · 12-01-2012 11:55AM

I love Phineas and Ferb.....

MistyCheese · 12-01-2012 12:26PM

allprops wrote: »

It's Dora I worry about, a young child with a monkey for a friend wandering on her own! Where are the parents? Where are the bloody parents?

I agree completely. ¿Donde están Mammy y Daddy, Dora? ¿Qué has hecho* with your parents, Dora??!

Also I do not want to encourage my child to speak Spanglish. Spanish or English, not both together.

*¿Qué has hecho? = What have you done?

part time punk · 12-01-2012 01:40PM

MistyCheese wrote: »

I agree completely. ¿Donde están Mammy y Daddy, Dora? ¿Qué has hecho* with your parents, Dora??!

Also I do not want to encourage my child to speak Spanglish. Spanish or English, not both together.

*¿Qué has hecho? = What have you done?

But is Dora not a good role model for a young girl, off exploring and having adventures rather than being a pink princess ? Think the Indo article is a bit rubbish 'Parents think Peppa turing their kids into naughty children' Maybe its the parents labelling of their kids as naughty that is turning them into naughty children? Think it's possible to read a bit too much into all this, the half an hour or hour that they're watching cartoons shouldn't influence a child more than all the other hours they're with a parent/carer.

RedXIV · 12-01-2012 02:21PM

I watched Die Hard with my son over Xmas, I imagine at 2 months old, he probably agrees taking a building hostage is a lot of work

But what I do like having my kids watch is Sesame Street. Its a nice calm and educational show. I could read before I started school because of that show

Das Kitty · 13-01-2012 11:57AM

Most of them drive me bonkers to be frank. We only put cbeebies on in the house to avoid the ads.

The worst thing is when you're at work and start singing the Rasta Mouse theme.

Grandpa in my Pocket is banned because I have murderous thoughts about Jason when it's on.

Mister Maker is the child's favourite at the moment, he's taking after his Mammy and her Art Attack obsession.

Tabnabs · 13-01-2012 12:16PM

We've noticed the bumbling father figure in Peppa Pig too and dislike her general naughtiness and TBH, she's fairly obnoxious at times.

But it turns out that Peppa and her family are actually staunch conservatives

according to the Daily Telegraph

Peppa lives in a big detached house on the top of a very steep hill with her younger brother George (popular Victorian names are still terribly middle-class). Their spotty green kitchen curtains are straight out of John Lewis; the children share bunk-beds, not because they don't have space, but because it looks good to have two spare bedrooms. The walls are adorned with kids' drawings hung by parents who would like less clutter but dare not damage their off-spring's self-esteem. Their larder-style fridge is covered in educational alphabet-magnets.

Daddy Pig doesn't mind that Cameron will raise the state pension age to 66 as long as he keeps his promise to raise the inheritance tax threshold to £1million. You see, Grandpa Pig has a boat, drives a yellow convertible; talks like a Sergeant Major and keeps a parrot in a cage. It's called "Polly", presumably because a "traditional" name legitimises his out-dated cruelty (no doubt a parrot appears on the family crest – a nod to their colonial success.)

When she watches her favourite detective TV show, Peppa exhibits the sort of free-market-can-do attitude that Thatcher inspired in her parents, "That was easy. I could do that! When I grow up I want to be a detective!" So Daddy Pig does what every modern dad would and gets her the outfit.

Humph is very politically correct and does introduce some themes rarely seen in kids shows, but it's exceptionally boring as all I;ve seen them do is go to the park and visit relatives/friends. *yawns*

Plenty of comedy in Ben & Holly to keep the adults amused, the "mutiny on the Bunty" line cracks me up every time :pac:

But for a show written by boys and for boys, Fireman Sam's your only man!

Ayla · 13-01-2012 12:24PM

I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

Rabidlamb · 13-01-2012 12:42PM

Fireman Sam sets over high expectations of the public service.
Living in a Welsh fishing village with a population of about 10 yet it can call on a 24 hour fire service constantly manned with 3 full-time staff.
Not only that it has a helicopter & lifeboat service to boot.
Ponytpandy is obviously pre Croke Park Agreement.

90% of the emergencies are caused by the one kid aswell, surely he should be lifted for the villages sake.

Tabnabs · 13-01-2012 12:46PM

Ayla wrote: »

I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

How superior of you / poor you can't afford a TV and cable subscription

Strike out as necessary... :rolleyes:

Rabidlamb · 13-01-2012 12:47PM

There's a buzz buzz buzz in the meadow
There's a buzz buzz buzz through the trees
There's a buzz buzz buzz in the meadow
We're too busy being buzzy bees . . . .:D

Rabidlamb · 13-01-2012 12:50PM

Ayla wrote: »

I find this thread hysterical b/c I have absolutely no idea what any of you are talking about...I've never even heard of half the shows that've been mentioned, and I'm quite proud that neither of my children have either.

We don't own a tv so quite happily miss all shows. We do watch a dvd on the laptop from time to time but that seems much less pervasive then daytime sitcoms/cartoons. The rest of the day the kids play.

Your superiority grease is positively dripping . . . . well done you.

Peppa Pig is evil?

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