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CHELTENHAM - DAY 4: Friday 18th March

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  • 14-03-2011 7:43pm
    #1
    thewools
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    All DAY 4 tips/selections etc to be posted here.
    • 1:30 JCB Triumph Hurdle: Grade 1 Cl1 2m1f
    • 2:05 Vincent O´Brien County Handicap Hurdle: Grade 3 Cl1 2m1f
    • 2:40 Albert Bartlett Novices´ Hurdle (Registered As The Spa Novices´ Hurdle Race): Grade 1 Cl1 3m
    • 3:20 totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase: Grade 1 Cl1 3m2f110y
    • 4:00 Christie´s Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup: Cl2 3m2f110y
    • 4:40 Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys´ Handicap Hurdle: Cl2 2m4f110y
    • 5:15 Johnny Henderson Grand Annual Chase Challenge Cup (Handicap): Grade 3 Cl1 2m110y
    Here's To Hoping :cool:


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    #2
    mike65
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    If you thought today was tricky...

    1:30 Unaccompanied
    2:05 Alarazi
    2:40 Mossley
    3:20 Imperial Commander (mainly for old times sake)
    4:00 Baby Run
    4:40 Qaspal
    5:15 Anquetta


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    Nulty
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    mike65 wrote: »
    If you thought today was tricky...

    1:30 Unaccompanied
    2:05 Alarazi
    2:40 Mossley
    3:20 Imperial Commander (mainly for old times sake)
    4:00 Baby Run
    4:40 Qaspal
    5:15 Anquetta

    Don't you want to see how much rain falls, if any?


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    HigginsJ
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    JCB Triumph Hurdle - Smad Place, Zarkandar, Unaccompanied (all antepost)
    Vincent O´Brien County Handicap Hurdle - Alaivan
    Albert Bartlett Novices´ Hurdle - Kilcrea Kim
    Totesport Cheltenham Gold Cup Chase - Kauto Star
    Christie´s Foxhunter Chase Challenge Cup - Baby Run
    Martin Pipe Conditional Jockeys´ Hurdle - Shoegazer
    Johnny Henderson Grand Annual - Shoreacres

    All again are backed e/w (apart from Baby Run)

    Shoegazer is backed as the trainer/jockey did me good turn as the brilliant Buena Vista won again today. Had Shoreacres in the Bumper few years back and the supreme novices the year after.

    And finally Kauto Star, who else, why back anything else when you can back the greatest chaser for a generation!


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    mike65
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    Nulty wrote: »
    Don't you want to see how much rain falls, if any?

    Its looks like it'll be a few mills only.


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    Nulty
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    0mm - 8mm

    Dermot Weld says he'll pull Unaccompanied if theres not enough cut. He might be tempted to let her take her chance even with the ground not in her favour. Worst place to be as a punter.

    Unless at least 8mm falls over night I don't want to see Pandorama line up.


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    HigginsJ
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    If you were owner of a horse like Pandorama would you really pull it. Would be a gut wrenching thing to do considering you have been waiting years for a live Gold Cup chance.

    If the horse is fit and well you'd have to take your shot. You may never be back again.


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    Nulty
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    There is a line. Noel Meades line is on the cautious side. He's already worried about the horses inexperience over fences so another year under his belt wouldn't harm him chances.

    I'm not sure what I'd do if I were the owner. I think I'd be cautious of the horses well being and longevity, though its hard to say.


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    HigginsJ
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    If it were a race outside Cheltenham it would be an easy enough decision. However Gold Cup at Cheltenham.

    You could have 1000 horses who would never get near the thing with a realistic chance.


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    #10
    amiable
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    In the fringe in the Foxhunter lads tomorrow all day long:D


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    TheQueen
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    I will be putting half of my weeks profits on Kempes tomorrow and it will be the story I will bore my grandchildren with in years to come.


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    Vain
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    amiable wrote: »
    In the fringe in the Foxhunter lads tomorrow all day long:D

    Is that a tip:D


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    jive
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    1.30
    High Ransom @ 100/1 (3 places)


    2.05
    Nearby @ 66/1 (5 places)
    Tarkari @ 50/1 (5 places)


    2.40
    Our island @ 28/1 (3 places)


    3.20
    Kauto star @ 10/1 (3 places) - ante post bet


    4.00
    Jaunty Flight @ 20/1 (3 places)


    4.40
    Hollins @ 28/1 (5 places)
    Barizan @ 25/1 (5 places)
    Astracad @ 33/1 (4 places)


    5:15
    Oh crick @ 10/1 (4 places)
    Anquetta @ 9/1 (4 places)


    Lucky 15
    1.30 -> Zarkander @ 7/1 (3 places)
    2.05 -> Final Approach @ 12/1 (5 places)
    2.40 -> Kilcrea Kim @ 9/1 (3 places)
    4.00 -> Baby Run @ 7/2 (4 places)

    all e/w :D


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    Leroy Lita
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    1:30 Unaccompanied e/w
    2:05 Pidgeon Island e/w
    5:15 Get Me Out Of Here e/w

    taughts?


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    brianthebard
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    TheQueen wrote: »
    I will be putting half of my weeks profits on Kempes tomorrow and it will be the story I will bore my grandchildren with in years to come.

    Glad someone else is backing kempes! Very much in with a chance imo.


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    porterbelly
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    1.30 Sam Winner

    5.15 De Boitron ew

    Still deciding on other races, thinking about Kempes but if it rains any way significantly tomorrow I'll be on Long Run


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    amiable
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    Vain wrote: »
    Is that a tip:D
    Yes it is


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    amiable
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    IMO its a very poor Gold Cup tomorrow.
    There's a case to be made for a good few of the runners


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    Mr.Conners
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    I would find it very difficult to oppose Sam Winner tomorrow in the 1:30.

    He has a course & distance win, including another at Cheltenham over Grandouet with virtually the same distance as tomorrrow. I would discard his recent 4th place as it was on terrible ground, there will be a bit of cut tomorrow if the rain falls and that will suit him perfectly.

    I had a nip at 10's last week and have gone in a bit heavier now at 6's. Price seems to be dropping and I suspect it will be 5's tomorrow once the Ruby backers get on.

    I fancy Long Run and Kempes in the Gold Cup, only thing worrying me about Kempes is I'm not sure how he will handle the pace of it. I will probably give him a miss for that reason and have an e/w with Long Run. An open race all the same but can't see the winner coming from Kauto Star, Denman or Imperial Commander.

    Good luck to all


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    #20
    Mr.Conners
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    Pandorama followers have got their wish, the skies have opened above Cheltenham.


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    #21
    amiable
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    Mr.Conners wrote: »
    Pandorama followers have got their wish, the skies have opened above Cheltenham.
    Source?


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    Nulty
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    Drizzle only from what I've heard.

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/


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    Mr.Conners
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    amiable wrote: »
    Source?

    Its from a friend who is over there, it was definitely raining within the last half hour, said it had started around 10:30 pm.


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    amiable
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    Nulty wrote: »
    Drizzle only from what I've heard.

    http://www.raintoday.co.uk/
    That's what i heard too and my source was very intoxicated i do believe


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    #25
    amiable
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    Mr.Conners wrote: »
    Its from a friend who is over there, it was definitely raining within the last half hour, said it had started around 10:30 pm.
    is he as drunk as my friend?


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    #26
    Nulty
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    BBC calling heavy rain in the early morning. No point in worrying about it. Either it happens or it doesn't.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2174


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    Mr.Conners
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    amiable wrote: »
    is he as drunk as my friend?

    Possibly, he did seem very enthusiastic over the rain. There will have to be more over night for it to change the ground obviously but after a hot day it is a good sign for those who want soft ground.


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    COB_here
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    Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?


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    porterbelly
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    COB_here wrote: »
    Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?

    Denman


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    Mr.Conners
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    COB_here wrote: »
    Other than Pandorama what horses will like the news of rain?

    Unaccompanied in the 1:30 would like it soft, but if it doesn't rain too heavily and the going is good-to-soft than that is perfect for Sam Winner.


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    COB_here
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    I do like the look of Sam winner in the first, hopefully get Friday off to a good one.


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