Kildare GAA General Discussion Thread

DARK-KNIGHT · 01-07-2015 11:49pm

Nib wrote: »

Nobody makes these lads play inter-county football, if they're not going to stick around when the going gets tough, they shouldn't bother taking the places of lads on the panel with a bit of loyalty. The life span of an inter-county footballer is short enough without heading off on your jollies to the states in July.

Give it all or nothing.

yeah give it all and when your 31/32 and broken up and left with **** all for years of hurt then at least you can say you gave it all... Lol

What do you expect from the players and who are you to judge them like that?

Nib · 01-07-2015 11:56pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

yeah give it all and when your 31/32 and broken up and left with **** all for years of hurt then at least you can say you gave it all... Lol

What do you expect from the players and who are you to judge them like that?

"Lol".. Are you 10 years old?

Again, why bother joining the panel if they're worried about being broken up later in life? Go play with your club and give somebody else a chance on the county panel. It's grand though, let's just lay the blame on Jason Ryan for this too. He's a very easy scapegoat for people in Kildare GAA circles these days.

Kieran McGeeney didn't want to know Darroch Mulhall when he was in charge, Mulhall even tweeted a sarcastic "bye bye" on the night he was ousted. I wonder who's laughing now.

You go back into the Dublin thread and keep telling them how "awesome" they are because you haven't a clue about much else.

klairondavis · 02-07-2015 12:08am

Nib wrote: »

It's grand though, let's just lay the blame on Jason Ryan for this too. He's a very easy scapegoat for people in Kildare GAA circles these days.

Very true. The problems run a lot deeper.

You have to have a degree of sympathy for the management and everyone else on the panel if there are lads leaving at the drop of a hat.

If player's have informed management of their intentions far enough in advance then fair enough. I do know one of the Kildare players who left let the management know a few months ago of his plans.

DARK-KNIGHT · 02-07-2015 12:32am

Nib wrote: »

"Lol".. Are you 10 years old?

Again, why bother joining the panel if they're worried about being broken up later in life? Go play with your club and give somebody else a chance on the county panel. It's grand though, let's just lay the blame on Jason Ryan for this too. He's a very easy scapegoat for people in Kildare GAA circles these days.

Kieran McGeeney didn't want to know Darroch Mulhall when he was in charge, Mulhall even tweeted a sarcastic "bye bye" on the night he was ousted. I wonder who's laughing now.

You go back into the Dublin thread and keep telling them how "awesome" they are because you haven't a clue about much else.

ok

My age has nothing to do with this firstly.
GAA players at intercounty level are as good as abused with the harm their bodies endure. look at the stats for injuries to pro sportsmen and our "amateur" game. Problems run a hell of a lot deeper than jason ryan thats well known.
Who mentioned mcgeeney or mulhall?? yes mcgeeney is laughing his arse off thats more than obvious AND HE IS DEAD RIGHT IMO THE MAN WAS TREATED LIKE ****E.
"You go back into the Dublin thread and keep telling them how "awesome" they are because you haven't a clue about much else." - This post says it all about you tbh bitter nasty insult that i know nothing about football and why because i give praise where praise is due????? My Dad is a Dub Im watching them play years and now they are seeing the fruition of years of hard work yes they deserve every bit of credit they get.

my issue was you having a go at those lads without knowing the facts or if you knew the facts state them before you attack players like that. you didnt have to insult my knowledge of the game or talk about the fact i was congratulating dublin in their thread.. sportsmanship you should look it up

DARK-KNIGHT · 02-07-2015 12:35am

klairondavis wrote: »

Very true. The problems run a lot deeper.

You have to have a degree of sympathy for the management and everyone else on the panel if there are lads leaving at the drop of a hat.

If player's have informed management of their intentions far enough in advance then fair enough. I do know one of the Kildare players who left let the management know a few months ago of his plans.

I agree its bad to walk away but before passing judgement here we should know the facts is all i wanted to say. Theres also a chance that people have personal issues and need to walk away didnt mcloughlin walk away due to getting married or having kids?

klairondavis · 02-07-2015 12:45am

There's quite a bit of misinformation about. It was widely reported that one player had left to go travelling although he is at home and had an operation last week.

A few of the u21 panel were invited to play with the seniors after they lost in the Leinster Final but they turned it down because they had made plans for the summer. That's fair enough and at least the management know where they stand.

DARK-KNIGHT · 02-07-2015 12:46am

klairondavis wrote: »

There's quite a bit of misinformation about. It was reported that one player left to go travelling although he is at home and had an operation last week.

A few of the u21 panel were invited to play with the seniors after they lost in the Leinster Final but they turned it down because they had made plans for the summer. That's fair enough and at least the management know where they stand.

all i was saying was we should know the facts first. that doesnt sound too unreasonable for the players if true so.

klairondavis · 02-07-2015 12:58am

What we're seeing now to an extent are the negative consequences of our shambolic finances. The investment in the senior football panel is only a fraction of what it was a few short years ago. We can't really support a large extended panel anymore and any defections are keenly felt. Compare the number of players that went down to Fota Island for the bank holiday weekend to the number that were on a ten day long training camp in Portugal over Easter 2012 and you'll see what I mean.

When it comes to looking for a new manager in a few months time, every candidate will be expected to work within the same budgetary constraints.

Kieran81 · 02-07-2015 11:38am

its a bit much to say where the senior team finds themselves now is down to financial restraints. Thats a reason that could be used if they were on the verge of breaking into real all-ireland contention, where a side does need serious resources. But Kildare are a team who are now in div 3, should really have been beaten by Laois the first day and really can be looked on as no better than ranked anywhere between 10-15 in the country at the minute. The manager does deserve criticism, he is clearly not capable of getting the best out of these players and is proven to be weak tactically. Its unreasonable to expect them to break into the top 4 these days, but there's enough good footballers, and a good level of success at u21 and minor over the last number of years to expect better, there's definitely better managers there for the job

klairondavis · 02-07-2015 11:51am

Kieran81 wrote: »

its a bit much to say where the senior team finds themselves now is down to financial restraints.

That's why I included "to an extent."

You can't expect a professional operation without ploughing money into it and it simply isn't there. With all due respect to some members of our management team, they would not be in the positions they are in if we were not working off a shoestring budget.

A lot of these players were part of a Kildare panel who had serious money behind them and wanted for nothing. It's a big adjustment to what the set up is now only a few years later. The same thing happened in 1995 and 1996 and we had players walking away. To a man they were back on board for 1997.

Dr Crippen · 02-07-2015 11:53am

Kildare supporter ambitions (myself included) are just a little but higher than what this current squad can achieve. In my opinion this is reflected by the amount of players who have moved on and those who will do the same too.

When you see Ronan Quinn running onto the pitch constantly telling players where to go, who to follow it highlights that the management are micro managing players and possibly dont fully believe in their abilities.
Why would you need to keep distracting and undermining lads on the pitch? This carry on was infuriating to watch in Tullamore a few weeks ago.

paulie21 · 03-07-2015 6:04pm

Any sign of a team been named?

klairondavis · 03-07-2015 10:24pm

I've heard that Kelly is in for Fogarty and that Lyons will play.

I hope that Moolick is included from the start. It could be a very nervy afternoon.

Nib · 04-07-2015 10:17am

This is not going to be a walk in the park by any means. I think we might pull away in the second half, hopefully.

Very strange having no team named.

I'd go:

Donnellan
Lyons Fitzpatrick O'Grady
Murnaghan Doyle Bolton
White Cribbin
O'Neill O'Flaherty McNally
Kelly Fogarty Smith

Dr Crippen · 04-07-2015 10:38am

Is it on the box at all chaps, can't make the match, if not I will listen to KFM for it

klairondavis · 04-07-2015 10:59am

Nib wrote: »

This is not going to be a walk in the park by any means. I think we might pull away in the second half, hopefully.

Very strange having no team named.

I'd go:

Donnellan
Lyons Fitzpatrick O'Grady
Murnaghan Doyle Bolton
White Cribbin
O'Neill O'Flaherty NcNally
Kelly Fogarty Smith

Podge is dropped for a breach of discipline

Nib · 04-07-2015 11:10am

Heard he had a few pints last weekend, dead right to drop him.

Did I hear that Ollie Lyons broke a finger against Dublin?

paulie21 · 04-07-2015 11:18am

2 others on the team were out drinking as well. Podge made the mistake of owning up to it

Nib · 04-07-2015 11:24am

If they had have won last weekend, fair enough, you wouldn't begrudge them a few pints, but losing and having a game 6 days later, it's not on.

klairondavis · 04-07-2015 11:34am

Emmet Bolton is also playing with an injury that he picked up in the first game against Laois. We're down to the bare bones at this stage. Bring your boots with you lads because we might need a few supporters to tog out!

lanomist · 04-07-2015 1:55pm

Surely an ameture player can have a few drinks after a match a week before the next game. It's gone completely over the top and no wonder players are leaving the county panel. Even in the English premership they only have a forty eight hour alcohol rule before matches.

klairondavis · 04-07-2015 5:05pm

Great to get back on the road with a win.

DARK-KNIGHT · 04-07-2015 6:45pm

lanomist wrote: »

Surely an ameture player can have a few drinks after a match a week before the next game. It's gone completely over the top and no wonder players are leaving the county panel. Even in the English premership they only have a forty eight hour alcohol rule before matches.

It's not acceptable for amateur footballers to have a life away from the pitch... Didn't you know that?? :rolleyes:

Dirty Dingus McGee · 04-07-2015 6:50pm

DARK-KNIGHT wrote: »

It's not acceptable for amateur footballers to have a life away from the pitch... Didn't you know that?? :rolleyes:

It's up to the players themselves to stop this though.

If all the players felt that sort of demands being put on players is too harsh they should just tell the management.

Nib · 04-07-2015 7:07pm

Made hard work of that win over an awful Offaly side. Thought Eoin Doyle was outstanding, pity it took an injury to Fergal Conway to get him in. Eoghan O'Flaherty and Paul Cribbin were good too. Mikey Conway done well off the bench, he made the goal and his passing was brilliant. Gary White's black card was a blessing in disguise, Tommy Moolick had a great game in the middle.

Let them off the leash tonight for a few pints.

klairondavis · 04-07-2015 8:57pm

Nib wrote: »

Thought Eoin Doyle was outstanding

He was superb. His controlled aggression would remind you of Glenn in his pomp.

It was a dogfight today and you need players like that to win those contests.

Johner · 04-07-2015 9:33pm

klairondavis wrote: »

He was superb. His controlled aggression would remind you of Glenn in his pomp.

It was a dogfight today and you need players like that to win those contests.

Kildare shouldn't be in a dogfight against the likes of Offaly, the team is rapidly declining under Ryan.

klairondavis · 04-07-2015 9:46pm

Johner wrote: »

Kildare shouldn't be in a dogfight against the likes of Offaly, the team is rapidly declining under Ryan.

Maybe so but the lads who are still there putting it all in deserve support. It's far from a great Kildare team but people were questioning their heart last week which I don't think was very fair.

Andrew McLoughlin summed it up well last night on twitter. They're playing for the jersey and the supporters, not Jason Ryan.

klairondavis · 05-07-2015 8:11pm

JHL Final
Ros Glas 3-11 Sallins 2-10

SHL Final
Naas 2-13 Celbridge 1-15

IHL Final
Naas 5-20 Kill 2-5

Great day for Naas hurling.

DARK-KNIGHT · 05-07-2015 9:40pm

klairondavis wrote: »

JHL Final
Ros Glas 3-11 Sallins 2-10

SHL Final
Naas 2-13 Celbridge 1-15

IHL Final
Naas 5-20 Kill 2-5

Great day for Naas hurling.

pfft....

Yes I am a bitter kill man 😂

paulie21 · 06-07-2015 8:53am

Longford away next weekend

Nib · 06-07-2015 10:37am

Good draw. They'll be no push-overs but we should have enough to take them.

I heard Peter Kelly played for TMH yesterday so hopefully he'll be available for selection.

What's the story with Fogarty? He was named in the programme on Saturday but there was no sign of him on the bench. He didn't play for Larries yesterday either.

klairondavis · 06-07-2015 10:42am

Fogarty was togged out on the bench.

That's good news about Peter Kelly.

klairondavis · 06-07-2015 1:43pm

The match is in Mullingar with a 7pm throw in.

roy rodgers · 06-07-2015 5:42pm

Why is it in mullingar? I taught Longford had the home advantage

klairondavis · 06-07-2015 5:51pm

roy rodgers wrote: »

Why is it in mullingar? I taught Longford had the home advantage

Structural issues with the stand in Pearse Park:

http://www.longfordleader.ie/news/local-news/300-000-bill-to-make-pearse-park-stand-safe-1-6667391

Nib · 07-07-2015 12:13am

Interesting to read on Twitter that our former S&C coach Barry Solan has joined Arsenal.

Best of luck to him.

Tristram · 07-07-2015 9:52pm

Johnny Doyle is the new manager of the Maynooth University Seniors. Will follow with interest.

Nib · 07-07-2015 10:46pm

Meh..

It's a shame he's not involved with our development squads, what a great role model he would be to our underage players. Money talks I suppose.

klairondavis · 09-07-2015 11:34am

https://twitter.com/KildareGAA/status/619069509358473216

Nib · 10-07-2015 7:39pm

Big weekend for Kildare football coming up.

I really am dreading this game tomorrow. Longford will fancy their chances big time against us and I really fear they are going to beat us. We were dreadful against Offaly, mistakes after mistake, especially in the forwards. The likes of Doyle, Fitzpatrick and Bolton dragged us over the line.

Tommy Moolick has to start in the middle, I'd like to see him partner White with Cribbin replacing Murnaghan at wing back. He was awful against Offaly and his error caused the goal. Cathal McNally was anonymous the last day, hopefully Fogarty will come back in with the JTB man making way. Callaghan to switch to the wing.

A hesitant 2 point win for Kildare.

The minors also face Longford on Sunday. No matter what happens on Saturday, a Leinster title from this talented bunch would give football in this county a massive lift. Best of luck to Brendan Hackett and the lads.

klairondavis · 10-07-2015 10:01pm

I'd be a slight bit more confident. We more or less fell across the line against Offaly but their late goal put a gloss on the scoreboard from their perspective. It took Kildare a good twenty five minutes last weekend to get the Dublin rout out of their systems and when we settled into it I think we were comfortably the better team. There wouldn't be a great deal between Longford and Offaly so if Kildare are tuned in properly we should take them. It might not be straightforward but we should have enough.

Yeah Moolick has to start but I'd be reluctant to move Cribbin for this game considering Longford have Mickey Quinn at midfield. Cribbin has the mobility to track his runs and put him on the backfoot when the opportunity arises. I'm not sure either Chalky or Moolick are up to that task.

Fogarty (0-10 in three championship games) has had a good year to date so hopefully he'll be back in. We're not really getting enough scores from the rest of the forwards apart from him and O'Flaherty (2-20 in four games, 2-7 from play). Smith is showing really well but he isn't really scoring heavily at the moment (only 0-6 in four games). You'd hope this might be the weekend where he gets a few breaks around the square. McNally (1-4), Leper (1-3) and O'Neill (0-3) will nearly always chip in with a score or two but they're there more for their workrate than their scoring power. Niall Kelly will get more space if Fogarty slots back into the full forward line. If he's left buzzing around the half forward line he has the ability to cause any defence problems.

Brian Kavanagh is a wily old fox in the Longford full forward line. He's excellent at fending off his marker and winning frees. The Kildare backs are going to have to be wise to this. I'm not sure whether it's a job for Ollie Lyons or even Peter Kelly if he's fit.

klairondavis · 11-07-2015 1:20pm

The Kildare Minor team to face Longford in tomorrow's Leinster Minor final at 12 noon in Croke park has been named:

1 Declan Campbell Na Raithiní
2 Ronan Slattery Baile Éide
3 Mike Joyce Na Cloighithe
4 Darren Lawlor Riobáin
5 Sam Doran Béal an Átha
6 Shea Ryan Na Sairséalaigh
7 Sean Healy Acadha Mórdha
8 Daniel Courtney Cill Cocha
9 Rory Feely Ath í
10 Conor Hartley Na Sairséalaigh
11 Ethan O Donohue Claonadh
12 Brian Mc Loughlin Claonadh
13 Ciaran Kelly Claonadh
14 Matthew Kelly Na Cloighithe
15 Jimmy Hyland Aylmer Gaels

No sign of a senior team named.

roy rodgers · 11-07-2015 7:44pm

Longford 0-05 kildare 1-10 ht

klairondavis · 11-07-2015 10:24pm

We couldn't have asked for much more from Kildare tonight. The goal before half time was a killer blow to Longford but it was great to see Kildare put the foot to the floor and keep it there in the second half.

Over to the minors now tomorrow to complete a really good weekend.

Nib · 12-07-2015 10:05am

Great win last night. 2-24 is a phenomenal score to put up.

Best of luck to the minors today.

paulie21 · 12-07-2015 10:29am

Fantastic win. Hopefully Westmeath the next day and we are in with a decent shot of the quarters. Come on the minors bring home the silverware

klairondavis · 12-07-2015 12:12pm

Great start. 1-3 to no score. Conor Hartley goal.

klairondavis · 12-07-2015 12:26pm

1-4 to 0-4

Kildare have lost a bit of momentum.

klairondavis · 12-07-2015 12:36pm

1-6 to 0-4 (HT)

Kildare went twenty minutes without scoring before Jimmy Hyland kicked two points in injury time.

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