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Stewball · 06-11-2019 2:03pm

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

The La Liga channel will be added in January.

Will the La Liga channel be part of the Premier/BT subscription with Sky or will it be a standalone channel?

kooga · 06-11-2019 2:43pm

Stewball wrote: »

Will the La Liga channel be part of the Premier/BT subscription with Sky or will it be a standalone channel?

FROM PS website

A: Will LaLiga TV be available in Ireland?
Q: Sky Ireland sell Premier Sports in Ireland. It is expected LaLiga TV will be added to Sky ROI EPG but this is yet to be confirmed.

Digifriendly · 06-11-2019 2:44pm

Stewball wrote: »

Will the La Liga channel be part of the Premier/BT subscription with Sky or will it be a standalone channel?

AFAIK it is part of Premier subscription but I stand to be corrected.

Stewball · 06-11-2019 3:03pm

kooga wrote: »

FROM PS website

A: Will LaLiga TV be available in Ireland?
Q: Sky Ireland sell Premier Sports in Ireland. It is expected LaLiga TV will be added to Sky ROI EPG but this is yet to be confirmed.

Hopefully it will be. I can't justify another monthly payment for football.

Red Silurian · 09-11-2019 1:33am

lowbatt07 wrote: »

No they won’t , it will be geo locked to UK only (ip address)

EU single digital market rules apply here so a UK Amazon Prime account will be able to stream these matches anywhere in the EU, including here in the Republic

If you have a sky/Eir/Virgin/now TV/Netflix subscription from Ireland you can take that subscription via a web browser or phone app to any EU nation under the same rules

icdg · 09-11-2019 9:53am

To be clear, what applies is the Portability Regulation and that only allows a person resident in one member state to take their content abroad with them for short periods - like a holiday or business trip. It does not create a general rule abolishing geoblocking within the EU entirely. For example Sky require you to have logged on in your home state after 30 days or the geoblocking comes back up.

This is an entirely separate issue from Amazon’s notoriously leaky geoblocking. That’s their own thing and if their content providers are comfortable with it.

icdg · 14-11-2019 11:34pm

Unconfirmed reports tonight that BT have retained the UEFA club competitions for another three years from 21-22 onwards.

channelsurfer2 · 15-11-2019 10:17am

no decrease in price paid according to the same articles.

fman · 15-11-2019 12:32pm

I guess the next question would be, how is Ireland affected. Status quo or some chance of eir/virgin getting exclusivity?

TCP/IP · 15-11-2019 12:48pm

fman wrote: »

I guess the next question would be, how is Ireland affected. Status quo or some chance of eir/virgin getting exclusivity?

There is zero chance of eir/virgin getting exclusivity due to the strategic partnership that Sky and BT have formed recently.

fman · 15-11-2019 1:11pm

Not what I meant. I meant in terms of the UEFA rights. When they last came up BT were in bed with eir and virgin/ TV3 were just a couple of channels.
There wouldn't have been any push to sell rights for UK and Ireland separately, but maybe there would be now?
Similar to the way Amazon's premier League games were sold to premier here.

icdg · 15-11-2019 1:33pm

It’s a bit more nuanced than that - the rights for UK and Ireland are sold separately, but the UK rights also included non-exclusive rights to broadcast the games in Ireland.

So in the current period:

BT have exclusive rights to show every game in the UK and non-exclusive rights to show every game in Ireland.
Virgin Media have non-exclusive rights to show every game in Ireland.
RTE have non exclusive rights to show one Tuesday 8:00pm game in Ireland.

It’s a slight bit messy but ensures no one gets blacked out (as was the case during the period ESPN had Europa League rights when games were blocked out in Ireland).

Harry Palmr · 15-11-2019 2:13pm

Does RTE keep one game a week is all I need to know - I like to watch football for free in HD.

icdg · 15-11-2019 2:51pm

Now official:

[url] https://sport.bt.com/football/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024-S11364410970173[/url]

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does RTE keep one game a week is all I need to know - I like to watch football for free in HD.

We probably won’t know for another 18 months on that one. UEFA haven’t even issued the RFT for Ireland yet.

Badabing · 15-11-2019 7:45pm

icdg wrote:

We probably wonâ€™t know for another 18 months on that one. UEFA havenâ€™t even issued the RFT for Ireland yet.

Is that usual? Did it happen the last time? Much smaller market obviously

icdg · 15-11-2019 8:11pm

Yeah, it takes them ages to do. The UK is normally one of the first deals to be done and we are normally one of the last.

For 2018-21, the UK rights were announced on 6th March 2017, the Irish rights on 15th May 2018.

dublinman1990 · 15-11-2019 8:27pm

BT Sport are also showing games from the new UEFA Europa Conference League as well with them retaining the CL & EL.

https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024/

That gives BT Sport an increase of 77 matches on their previous rights package.

I do wonder where the new Europa Conference League matches will go here if they are included in the new Irish rights deal.

From a realistic perspective from an Irish rights point of view; Will Virgin/Eir or RTÉ show those games here?

extra gravy · 15-11-2019 8:31pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

BT Sport are also showing games from the new UEFA Europa Conference League as well with them retaining the CL & EL.

https://newsroom.bt.com/bt-wins-exclusive-rights-to-uefa-champions-league-uefa-europa-league-and-uefa-europa-conference-league-until-2024/

That gives BT Sport an increase of 77 matches on their previous rights package.

I do wonder where the new Europa Conference League matches will go here if they are included in the new Irish rights deal.

From a realistic perspective from an Irish rights point of view; Will Virgin/Eir or RTÉ show those games here?

Will they want to? Can't see too much interest in a third tier European competition . The Europa League is bad enough until the knockout stages.

dulpit · 16-11-2019 11:16am

extra gravy wrote: »

Will they want to? Can't see too much interest in a third tier European competition . The Europa League is bad enough until the knockout stages.

Much greater chance of Irish teams making that competition though, so probably would have good interest here...

dulpit · 16-11-2019 11:16am

dulpit wrote: »

Much greater chance of Irish teams making that competition though, so probably would have good interest here...

Also, might be the only way to watch Manchester United in European competition... :pac:

mackersdublin · 19-11-2019 4:58pm

Premier Sports have updated their Premier League schedule for Dec & Jan with every game being broadcast on the 3rd/4th/6th and 26th/27th/28th Dec

https://www.premiersports.com/premierleague.html

Presumably the extra games on the dates above will only be available for Sky customers through the red button

icdg · 22-11-2019 9:28am

“Front channel” games in Round 15:

Tuesday 3rd Dec
Premier 1: Burnley v Man City
Premier 2: Crystal Palace v Bournemouth

Wednesday 4th Dec
Premier 1: Liverpool v Everton
Premier 2: Spurs v Man United

Thursday 5th December
Premier 1: Arsenal v Brighton
Premier 2: Sheffield United v Newcastle

Infoanon · 22-11-2019 11:45am

mackersdublin wrote: »

Presumably the extra games on the dates above will only be available for Sky customers through the red button

I don't think Premier have the spare carriage capacity unless a deal is done with Sky to lease spare capacity for those games.

icdg · 22-11-2019 12:53pm

Amazon will be putting these games on Sky for commercial premises - there could be some sort of deal to share streams in the circumstances.

icdg · 22-11-2019 5:33pm

Premier Sports website now updated to make clear the other games (Leicester v Watford, Wolves v West Ham, Chelsea v Aston Villa, Southampton v Norwich) will be available to satellite customers via red button.

Similar scenario on St Stephens Day - Chelsea v Southampton on Premier 1 and all other 3pms on red button - games outside of 3pm window all on Premier 1.

dublinman1990 · 23-11-2019 9:50pm

BT Sport launched BT Sport Ultimate on Sky & Virgin Media in the UK & through more smart devices yesterday.

https://www.rxtvlog.com/2019/11/bt-sport-ultimate-extended-to-sky-and.html

https://sport.bt.com/news/watch-bt-sport-ultimate-on-more-devices-than-ever-before-S11364412400952

TCP/IP · 23-11-2019 10:10pm

Here was me getting excited that we were going to get BT Sport 4K on SkyQ.

Father Hernandez · 29-11-2019 1:56pm

https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1200392788044603397?s=20

Acosta · 29-11-2019 9:01pm

Father Hernandez wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1200392788044603397?s=20

It was all going so well before the Ivan Yates reveal.

icdg · 03-12-2019 8:54pm

Eoin McDevitt and the usual Premier crew will be doing one of the games each night if you prefer.

Yates & Co have the eir Sport studio tonight incidentally, which I think is the first time it’s made an appearance on Premier Sports since the split.

Red Silurian · 03-12-2019 11:07pm

icdg wrote: »

To be clear, what applies is the Portability Regulation and that only allows a person resident in one member state to take their content abroad with them for short periods - like a holiday or business trip. It does not create a general rule abolishing geoblocking within the EU entirely. For example Sky require you to have logged on in your home state after 30 days or the geoblocking comes back up.

This is an entirely separate issue from Amazon’s notoriously leaky geoblocking. That’s their own thing and if their content providers are comfortable with it.

I can confirm that they are not geoblocked, long live the Digital Single Market hurrah!

muffler · 03-12-2019 11:38pm

colmtheperson wrote: »

I can confirm that they are not geoblocked, long live the Digital Single Market hurrah!

Couldn't watch either match tonight on the TV with the firestick. I could view them on the desktop PC but couldnt be bothered watching that.

icdg · 04-12-2019 12:25am

It’s not that they are not geoblocked - it’s just that Amazon’s geoblocking is based on a method other than IP address, and without wishing to break our own rule here on discussing circumventing geoblocking, is apparently very easily circumvented thanks to how nice Amazon customer support are about it. That’s their own policy, and if it becomes a problem for other PL right holders - like Premier Sports for instance (seeing how this is the Premier sports thread and all) - you will be sure the FAPL will put pressure on them to tighten things up.

Geoblocking of online content isn’t illegal. With few exceptions, the vast majority traditional broadcasters streaming over the net, and commercial legal streaming service uses it in some way shape or form including the BBC, ITV, RTE, Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc.

Red Silurian · 04-12-2019 1:55pm

icdg wrote: »

It’s not that they are not geoblocked - it’s just that Amazon’s geoblocking is based on a method other than IP address, and without wishing to break our own rule here on discussing circumventing geoblocking, is apparently very easily circumvented thanks to how nice Amazon customer support are about it. That’s their own policy, and if it becomes a problem for other PL right holders - like Premier Sports for instance (seeing how this is the Premier sports thread and all) - you will be sure the FAPL will put pressure on them to tighten things up.

Geoblocking of online content isn’t illegal. With few exceptions, the vast majority traditional broadcasters streaming over the net, and commercial legal streaming service uses it in some way shape or form including the BBC, ITV, RTE, Sky, Netflix, Amazon etc.

From my own point of view there was no circumventing of geoblocking... I have a family member home from the UK who has the relevant subscription that applies over there

All that I am confirming is that the DSM rules apply, and correctly apply, to the Amazon prime service! These rules are common to bt/Eir/premier/sky so I see no reason for the pl to come down on Amazon when the others are doing the exact same

On a related note, I can also confirm that an Irish prime account cannot access the matches, even when the user is in the UK

GiftofGab · 04-12-2019 1:57pm

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

Red Silurian · 04-12-2019 2:02pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

You mean will premier make the games FTA via red button? Unlikely I'd say

lertsnim · 04-12-2019 7:26pm

GiftofGab wrote: »

I have Sky Sports Only. Not Sky Sports Extra. Can I watch the games tonight or access premier sports via the red button on Sky??? Surely that's not correct.

You will have to have Sky Sports Extra to access the games on a sky box.

Green_Martian · 11-12-2019 4:09pm

Anyone got a number for Eirsport that I can actually get through to so I can cancel my auto renewal for Jan???

muffler · 11-12-2019 7:46pm

Green_Martian wrote: »

Anyone got a number for Eirsport that I can actually get through to so I can cancel my auto renewal for Jan???

0818 203040

Acosta · 26-12-2019 4:04pm

5 minutes into the 3pm games and no sign of the red button....

paulboland · 26-12-2019 4:29pm

Acosta wrote: »

5 minutes into the 3pm games and no sign of the red button....

Red button working now but games won't play
You get message content not available

Acosta · 26-12-2019 5:01pm

paulboland wrote: »

Red button working now but games won't play
You get message content not available

And every time I check if it's working it returns me to blue screen with sound only and I have to restart the sky box which takes 5 minutes.

They've made an absolute hames of their biggest gig of the season.

Acosta · 26-12-2019 5:05pm

It's working now, finally, in not so glorious SD

paulboland · 26-12-2019 5:07pm

Acosta wrote: »

And every time I check if it's working it returns me to blue screen with sound only and I have to restart the sky box which takes 5 minutes.

They've made an absolute hames of their biggest gig of the season.

I'm not getting Blue Screen on my Sky Q Box
When I click the back button is goes back the the Chelsea v Southampton game

Red Button working now for all the games

beya2009 · 26-12-2019 6:26pm

Hi does anyone know how much multi-room costs when you have BT/Premier Sports? We have 4 boxes in total.

icdg · 26-12-2019 6:42pm

There’s no extra charge on top of having to take both Multiscreen and Sports Extra.

horseofstone · 26-12-2019 6:47pm

Carlton cole & kelly are horrid boring to listen to.

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO · 27-12-2019 9:41pm

Premier Sports have been awful for the football over the last two days.

TCP/IP · 27-12-2019 9:48pm

Amazon has been amazing.

Tigerandahalf · 27-12-2019 11:13pm

Martin Tyler AgueroooOO wrote: »

Premier Sports have been awful for the football over the last two days.

I have had it on now tv. Streaming quality is poor relative to today's standards. Ivan Yates is surprisingly good but a bit of an old lads' club with Dunphy and Giles.

No studio presentation for the Wolves Man City game tonight. Just the game itself it seems.

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