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Things youth defence hates..

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  • #102
    fitz0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    Galvasean wrote: »
    As a side note, are these guys affiliated with YD?
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=info

    I don't think so. They are linked to a few websites

    - http://www.prolife.ie/
    - http://www.familyandlife.org/
    - http://www.opinionviewer.com/
    - http://www.irishcatholicbooks.com/

    Thanks to the wonder of whois.net we can see who they are registered to. They are all registered under the Family & Life Organisation based in California and Mountjoy Square. But there's no connection to YD, they're a separate entity founded by David Manly, much smaller than YD.

    EDIT: So there is a YD connection but it's old. Peter Scully, formerly of Human Life International was head of F&L back in 2000 and is a former YD member. It's a fairly tenuous connection though, I have no idea if he is still involved with any of them beyond appearing on the F&L whois.


  • #103
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I think some people are forgetting that famous bible quote on why gay people shouldn't marry. No, not the Leviticus one.
    This one is direct from Jesus. Think it goes like this:
    Love one another as I have loved you, except gays, I hate them.


  • #104
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    NotForResale wrote: »
    An obscure Irish group with 80,000 + likes whos most popular city is Lima

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Family-Life/137859686237383?sk=likes

    maybe

    a common friend likes that page :o
    Thankfully it's a relative, not an actual friend. :pac::pac:


  • #105
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    fitz0 wrote: »
    [...] Human Life International [...]
    The former head of HLI resigned last year amidst allegations of "sexual misconduct during an exorcism":

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353084/Father-Thomas-Euteneuer-admits-sexual-indiscretion-exorcism.html

    Euteneuer himself admitted "violating the boundaries of chastity with an adult female":

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/statement-of-fr-thomas-euteneur-setting-the-record-straight


  • #106
    lazygal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Nodin wrote: »
    You see, if theres abortion brought in - limited or otherwise - you, as a woman, will automatically be sprinting for the abortion clinic to kill babies. They may turn you away at first, because in your enthusiasm to kill babies you forgot to get pregnant, but eventually you'll get the procedure right and have the abortion. Thats the culture of death.

    The culture of life is a totally positive thing, where if you want to indulge your flippant whim for an abortion - because you might not want to die in childbirth or some nonsense - you slink off to another country like a sex tourist, criminal or former bank official to do your shameful act, and don't befoul the sacred soil of Ireland with it. You then come back here and never ever ever ever ever mention it, just cry into your drink with guilt once or twice a year.

    Phew. Thank goodness for Youth Defence. I would have aborted my now two month old daughter had it not been for their assiduous culture of life stance. Crisis averted!


  • #107
    Pace2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Are you, by any chance, a rereg of crumilcum (or whatever his name was)?

    MrP
    No, but he's a re-reg of all these guys (and dozens more):

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=299273
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=377693
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=349962
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=365447
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=315373
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=23471

    He appears every so often or so in a blizzard of re-reg accounts, espouses views that are way too far-right even for conservative Christians, gets banned everywhere before disappearing under the bridge again for a few months.


  • #108
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    lazygal wrote: »
    Phew. Thank goodness for Youth Defence. I would have aborted my now two month old daughter had it not been for their assiduous culture of life stance. Crisis averted!

    Yep. They recognise you function better when free of the burden of choice.


  • #109
    Elysian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 206 ✭✭Elysian


    Legal Ad Campaigns: http://redlemonade.blogspot.ie/2012/07/terms-and-conditions-tear-your-ads-apart_25.html


  • #110
    _GOD_
    Registered Users Posts: 70 ✭✭_GOD_


    Actor wrote: »
    ..and I'm against sodomy.

    Then don't get fúcked in the ass!

    thus sayeth the Lord


  • #111
    Ataxia
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Ataxia


    Nodin wrote: »
    There was 3 members in his organisation, afaik. They split.

    There were more than 3, but yeah they split in hilarious circumstances, which you can read about here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/99028347/In-The-Area-5-Summer-2012?in_collection=3002989


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  • #112
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    I saw a horrible billboard from this shower

    "Abortion Tears Her Life A Part"

    So this was on the dual carriageway into Limerick from Shannon Airport.

    Absolutely disgusting poster, especially considering the fact that getting an abortion is already a hard enough thing to go through.


  • #113
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,847 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    I saw a horrible billboard from this shower

    "Abortion Tears Her Life A Part"

    So this was on the dual carriageway into Limerick from Shannon Airport.

    Absolutely disgusting poster, especially considering the fact that getting an abortion is already a hard enough thing to go through.

    They actually have the ad on the side of some of the Limerick buses too, and on a billboard on O'Connell street.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



  • #114
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    koth wrote: »
    They actually have the ad on the side of some of the Limerick buses too, and on a billboard on O'Connell street.

    Absolutely disgusting, my views on abortion are complex to say the least but this approach is just horrible and could really push someone over the edge and off one of our bridges.


  • #115
    Axl Orange Beggar
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Axl Orange Beggar


    They have them all over the place

    the advertising people refuse to do anything

    it is disgusting


  • #116
    fitz0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,753 ✭✭✭fitz0


    The one by Busaras had been mostly torn down the last time I was down that way. It looked like somebody just started tearing strips off it.


  • #117
    A_Sober_Paddy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    bluewolf wrote: »
    They have them all over the place

    the advertising people refuse to do anything

    it is disgusting

    If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?


  • #118
    Axl Orange Beggar
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Axl Orange Beggar


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?
    if the advertisers wont even do anything about it, probably not
    i wish


  • #119
    Ataxia
    Registered Users Posts: 159 ✭✭Ataxia


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    If the ad campaign was to result in someone taking their life, could the "Youth Defence" be charged for wrongful death or anything of the like?

    I think the YD billboards are deliberately triggering but I don't know if the law recognises deliberate triggering as a form of assault. It would probably be a landmark case worldwide if it did.


  • #120
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    bluewolf wrote: »
    They have them all over the place

    the advertising people refuse to do anything

    it is disgusting
    Based on the post above, they may be forced to take them down because of the breach of copyright. :D I'd hate to have any of my photos misused or stolen by such groups, it shows the nasty lengths which they go to.


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  • #121
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,916 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    Well hopefully the discovery that the pictures used in the ads were used without permission will see something happen with them.


  • #122
    skoomi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 169 ✭✭skoomi


    The admin of the YD Facebook page has the banstick out. Any mention of the copyright issue is instantly deleted and the "offending" poster is banned.

    DAMAGE CONTROL MODE! !!!!


  • #123
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    images from their facebook...

    387085_10151124357057363_499952415_n.jpg

    Stolen from a National Geographic show

    semana-25.gif

    558428_10151126269192363_1747538776_n.jpg

    Stolen from www.hdwallpapers.in http://www.hdwallpapers.in/cute_baby_boy_2-wallpapers.html
    COPYRIGHT POLICY :

    for Users : Attention every visitor to this website. You can download anything from here for desktop purposes only. You do not have any permission to use any image commercially (in website backgrounds,wall backgrounds, printing for sale..like that). You must obtain the permission from the original copyright holder of that image for using them commercially.

    cute_baby_boy_2-t1.jpg


  • #124
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Considering their track record, I'm not surprised that such an organisation would stoop to nicking copyrighted content, but to do it so amateurishly?


  • #125
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Actor wrote: »
    There is however, the element of sodomy in a homosexual union.

    Just like to say I told my long-term same sex partner this and she told me to F Off. :o


  • #126
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    Actor wrote: »
    There is however, the element of sodomy in a homosexual union.

    Just like to say I told my long-term same sex partner this and she told me to F Off. :o
    S'ok. You can say 'Flip'. We're all adults here.


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  • #127
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    I saw a horrible billboard from this shower

    "Abortion Tears Her Life A Part"

    So this was on the dual carriageway into Limerick from Shannon Airport.

    Absolutely disgusting poster, especially considering the fact that getting an abortion is already a hard enough thing to go through.

    I don't know about that, I saw that same poster and immediately thought - no an unwanted pregnancy tears her life apart- and I would say lots of others would see it the same way.

    I believe these posters are counterproductive to the prolife argument, they are legitimising the conversation and that inevitably leads to change .


  • #128
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Did that guy ever get around to saying why sodomy is bad for society?


  • #129
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Did that guy ever get around to saying why sodomy is bad for society?

    Lube stains on soft furnishings resulting in the sticky decline of civilisation?


  • #130
    MrPudding
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,788 ✭✭✭MrPudding


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Did that guy ever get around to saying why sodomy is bad for society?
    Well no, why would he need to. It is obvious it is bad for society, similar to how a father and a mother who are married is the best way to raise a child. Obvious.

    MrP


  • #131
    kylith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,736 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Did that guy ever get around to saying why sodomy is bad for society?
    Sodomy hurts your bum. If your bum is sore you can't sit down. If you can't sit down you can't drive, or sit at a desk and work. Therefore the economy would collapse and civilisation would fall, all because of sore bums.


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  • #132
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    MrPudding wrote: »
    Well no, why would he need to. It is obvious it is bad for society, similar to how a father and a mother who are married is the best way to raise a child. Obvious.

    MrP

    good think marriage was always around or we'd never have gotten here isn't it


  • #133
    Quatermain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Quatermain


    kylith wrote: »
    Sodomy hurts your bum. If your bum is sore you can't sit down. If you can't sit down you can't drive, or sit at a desk and work. Therefore the economy would collapse and civilisation would fall, all because of sore bums.

    In other words, life as we know it would hit rock bottom.


  • #134
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Quatermain wrote: »
    In other words, life as we know it would hit rock bottom.

    Hmmm. Bummer.


  • #135
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Nodin wrote: »
    Hmmm. Bummer.

    Just not very holesome is all


  • #136
    Quatermain
    Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭Quatermain


    marienbad wrote: »
    Just not very holesome is all

    Allow someone to pooh-pooh your concerns.




    Too far. I'll get my coat. :pac:


  • #137
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Quatermain wrote: »

    Too far. I'll get my coat. :pac:

    just bend over and take your punishment like a man


  • #138
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Bannasidhe wrote: »
    just bend over and take your punishment like a man

    You're tearing the arse out of it now.


  • #139
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Time to butt out methinks before we make a holy show of ourselves ,on the other hand when you are in a hole dig deeper, just forget about the bj afterwards.


  • #140
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Sorry I asked :o


  • #141
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    ^ That's what YORE MA said.

    Scrap the cap!



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  • #142
    IT-Guy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭IT-Guy


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Did that guy ever get around to saying why sodomy is bad for society?

    Maybe not bad for society, it could make your whole week...:D


  • #143
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    NotForResale wrote: »
    I'm trying to keep a running tally of things youth defence and their members/leaders are against.
    You can add theJournal.ie:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/youth-defence-abortion-image-investigation-533369-Jul2012


  • #144
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    You can add theJournal.ie:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/youth-defence-abortion-image-investigation-533369-Jul2012
    This is a bit like getting Al Capone for tax evasion.


  • #145
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    robindch wrote: »
    You can add theJournal.ie:

    http://www.thejournal.ie/youth-defence-abortion-image-investigation-533369-Jul2012

    Jeebus, that Paul guy in the comments section is itchin' for a fight!


  • #146
    Sierra 117
    Registered Users Posts: 629 ✭✭✭Sierra 117


    Brian Walsh's comment was spot on:

    "Just to clarify, if a woman here needs an abortion and must legally travel abroad Youth Defence assumes it’s their business, but when they break laws here it isn’t “anyone else’s business other than that of Youth Defence”. Gotya."


  • #147
    Actor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 348 ✭✭Actor


    Ye talk as if no other media house in Ireland ever used images counter to their terms and conditions. YD used an image in good faith. If ye want to regale in YD's oversight, then you're an ass. The spirit of the law is one thing, the letter is quite another.

    Anyway, I don't think YD did anything wrong. It's subjective whether or not they breached the terms.


  • #148
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Actor wrote: »

    Anyway, I don't think YD did anything wrong. It's subjective whether or not they breached the terms.

    It's not even slightly subjective. They did it. :confused:


  • #149
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,807 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Actor wrote: »
    Ye talk as if no other media house in Ireland ever used images counter to their terms and conditions.
    And when they do, they're roundly criticised. Check out the Photography forum
    Actor wrote: »
    YD used an image in good faith
    Nope. That term doesn't mean what you think it means
    Actor wrote: »
    If ye want to regale in YD's oversight, then you're an ass.
    Nope.
    Actor wrote: »
    The spirit of the law is one thing, the letter is quite another.
    Correct. They broke both
    Actor wrote: »
    Anyway, I don't think YD did anything wrong.
    Wrong
    Actor wrote: »
    It's subjective whether or not they breached the terms.
    Wrong

    Impressive. 6 incorrect statements in only 6 sentences. Certainly keeping your average up

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  • #150
    Actor
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 348 ✭✭Actor


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    It's not even slightly subjective. They did it. :confused:

    Did what exactly?


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  • #151
    Galvasean
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Actor wrote: »
    Did what exactly?

    Breached the legally binding terms & conditions of the photographs they used in their massive advertising campaign. Try to keep up.


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