beef price tracker

Midlandsman80 · 18-11-2014 10:17pm

Is that for under 30months and qa on top?

Base price · 18-11-2014 10:22pm

Got 3.85 & 3.90 base for a double of under and overage AAx heifers and bullocks.
Underage got QA & AA bonus

Duke92 · 18-11-2014 10:22pm

Yes not sure about the overage
Qa + grades after that.

The Letheram · 22-11-2014 10:08pm

Have 7 continental cull cows to go. Blondes and limousins. Had an agent for a small independent slaughterhouse out today. He offered me €3.55 a kilo flat. One might be an O but she is by far the worst of them. I also have a 32 month old blonde heifer that slipped calf twice so she is going too. He offered €3.90 for her. Should I take it? I never usually kill cattle but sell weanlings so I don't keep too much up to fate on prices. Any advice?

Duke92 · 22-11-2014 10:13pm

I'd say he's at least 10 cent out especially if there heavy.

Willfarman · 23-11-2014 12:09am

He is treating you ok on the heifer but there might be a shake more going for cows.

leg wax · 23-11-2014 10:46am

2 euros a kilo live weight easily

Bullocks · 23-11-2014 10:48am

leg wax wrote: »

2 euros a kilo live weight easily

Were you selling yesterday leg wax , how did you get on

simx · 23-11-2014 1:41pm

The Letheram wrote: »

Have 7 continental cull cows to go. Blondes and limousins. Had an agent for a small independent slaughterhouse out today. He offered me €3.55 a kilo flat. One might be an O but she is by far the worst of them. I also have a 32 month old blonde heifer that slipped calf twice so she is going too. He offered €3.90 for her. Should I take it? I never usually kill cattle but sell weanlings so I don't keep too much up to fate on prices. Any advice?

Do you reckon the cows I'll be Us? If so Prob 3.60 be more like it anyway, but like willfarmerman said he's not doing Ya any harm on the heifer

simx · 23-11-2014 1:43pm

3.25 O&P cows for next week, have 7 going, Prob only one an o and 4 not there the 70 days so didn't argue with him, if I had a few better cows I'd push harder for more

Duke92 · 23-11-2014 10:24pm

What are the run of prices for this week heifers and steers.

restive · 24-11-2014 3:31pm

3.85 base steers, kepak

Cavanjack · 24-11-2014 4:46pm

restive wrote: »

3.85 base steers, kepak

Any difference in price between under and overage?

restive · 24-11-2014 4:48pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Any difference in price between under and overage?

I do not know. Mine were underage.

Midlandsman80 · 26-11-2014 12:52pm

is €3.90 base for just underage angus heifers about right? quote from Kilbeggan for killing this week

Jb1989 · 26-11-2014 3:55pm

Midlandsman80 wrote: »

is €3.90 base for just underage angus heifers about right? quote from Kilbeggan for killing this week

Are u sourceing an angus bonus along with that?

TUBBY · 26-11-2014 8:31pm

yeah - I was 3.90 for angus heifers this week but booked in under the scheme so getting bonus and QA.

If not selling this way, would have got 4 easily I reckon.

if killing in kilbeggan, mention the angus scheme and you will get the 15c bonus (the irish angus scheme not the AAA one which you need to pay to join).

larrymiller · 26-11-2014 9:14pm

TUBBY wrote: »

yeah - I was 3.90 for angus heifers this week but booked in under the scheme so getting bonus and QA.

If not selling this way, would have got 4 easily I reckon.

if killing in kilbeggan, mention the angus scheme and you will get the 15c bonus (the irish angus scheme not the AAA one which you need to pay to join).

Do you need to be a member for Irish Angus scheme?

Jb1989 · 26-11-2014 10:18pm

I'd say tubby can confirm the details
There does seem to be 2 levels of aa bonuses
Wether your a member or not
And if you give some weeks notice or just days notice of impending slaughter

TUBBY · 26-11-2014 10:24pm

larrymiller wrote: »

Do you need to be a member for Irish Angus scheme?

Free membership for one which gives 15c. Just mention it when booking or ring gerry smyth in bunbrosna.
Other one has more of a bonus but if you have big numbers (50 in the year), book 100 days in advance and has tighter spec with movements etc. Membership for that 100 euro. That the one I in to be honest. Can get 40c bonus some times of year in it.

Jb1989 · 26-11-2014 10:27pm

Are they still strict on aa traits of previous generations
Sort of half bred aa
Stumps of horns or awkwardly shaped angus's

TUBBY · 26-11-2014 11:10pm

Jb1989 wrote: »

Are they still strict on aa traits of previous generations
Sort of half bred aa
Stumps of horns or awkwardly shaped angus's

not moaning cause overall i got on ok but for the aaa they cut for
Any sign of butt of horn even if aa on card
bullocks must be between 260-360kg.
no more than 2 previous owners.
fat score 2+ to 4=
grade o= up.
have to be booked in 100 days in advance.
have to kill over 50 with these criteria effectively in year to get aaa. Otherwise you get a smaller bonus very similar to what the other crowd offer.

overall approx 3/4 of my ones net criteria but a lot were suckler bred. Dairy ones might struggle to keep under 4+ cause they butty. Also with bad bulls on go now cleaning dairy herds, o- a possibility.

the other scheme is
bird bia rules apply and as long as aax on card, you paid.

Jb1989 · 27-11-2014 12:14am

That's the ins an outs of the criteria well summed up
Thanks
40 cent be well worth it wen your organised enough with your specs

I said · 27-11-2014 4:07pm

Factories desperately struggling to get numbers this week – IFA
http://www.agriland.ie/news/factories-desperately-struggling-get-numbers-week-ifa/

amacca · 27-11-2014 6:20pm

IFA have a one page add in the farmers journal saying much the same thing and urging farmers to hold on to their cattle/hold out for higher prices

anyone any ideas about when the sweet spot for letting them go to the mart might be?

royaler83 · 27-11-2014 7:53pm

I said wrote: »

Factories desperately struggling to get numbers this week – IFA
http://www.agriland.ie/news/factories-desperately-struggling-get-numbers-week-ifa/

Those ads are some load of PR horsesh@*te :mad:

Willfarman · 27-11-2014 8:07pm

No scarcity of fat cattle yet. Strong Cattle that were housed mid October and being pushed since are coming ready now..the only stock that they seem any way eager for are the QA aa and Herefords.

royaler83 · 27-11-2014 8:36pm

Willfarman wrote: »

No scarcity of fat cattle yet. Strong Cattle that were housed mid October and being pushed since are coming ready now..the only stock that they seem any way eager for are the QA aa and Herefords.

Yea 36k head slaughtered last week, IFA still insisting factories are begging for cattle :rolleyes:

Cavanjack · 30-11-2014 12:20pm

Any quotes for heifers lads/lassies. Just waiting on an agent.

Farmer Pudsey · 30-11-2014 12:38pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Any quotes for heifers lads/lassies. Just waiting on an agent.

Hard to see a price rise kill way too high. We are also entering white meat season beef will not be in demand for being killed until Christmas week. Always found next 16-20 days bad time to be selling.

larrymiller · 30-11-2014 1:35pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Hard to see a price rise kill way too high. We are also entering white meat season beef will not be in demand for being killed until Christmas week. Always found next 16-20 days bad time to be selling.

I found the last 365 days bad time aswell!!
It's unreal the numbers going through the factories. No sign of it slowing down

restive · 30-11-2014 1:39pm

I have a few cattle heavy enough to kill out. The will be under age until February. Is it worth hanging onto them until after Christmas? Eating Meal & Silage.

Robson99 · 30-11-2014 1:44pm

restive wrote: »

I have a few cattle heavy enough to kill out. The will be under age until February. Is it worth hanging onto them until after Christmas? Eating Meal & Silage.

I would feed on till mid January

rangler1 · 30-11-2014 1:45pm

royaler83 wrote: »

Those ads are some load of PR horsesh@*te :mad:

ignore them at your peril, a neighbour took 3.70 flat for anguses last week...farmers still throwing cattle away.
Had to be worth more than that

I said · 30-11-2014 2:22pm

Anyone know why the much vaunted app hasn't updated since the 16th November?

Cavanjack · 30-11-2014 3:41pm

I said wrote: »

Anyone know why the much vaunted app hasn't updated since the 16th November?

Because the whole beef forum was/is a sham to try and keep farmers quiet.

rangler1 · 30-11-2014 4:13pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Because the whole beef forum was/is a sham to try and keep farmers quiet.

Farmers are price takers, nothing gonna change that.
Supply and demand is the only thing that's going to influence prices.
I've never heard such a variance in prices as at the moment, no wonder the new app can't keep up

Farmer Pudsey · 30-11-2014 7:27pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Farmers are price takers, nothing gonna change that.
Supply and demand is the only thing that's going to influence prices.
I've never heard such a variance in prices as at the moment, no wonder the new app can't keep up

The new app is supposed to give the average R price for cattle for each factory. It is not Rocket science. The Dept gets it returns from factory's every Monday morning along with weekly kill. it is pretty easy to using an excel to give Factory averages. However it is not in the Industry's interest for this to be published.

rangler1 · 30-11-2014 8:49pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The new app is supposed to give the average R price for cattle for each factory. It is not Rocket science. The Dept gets it returns from factory's every Monday morning along with weekly kill. it is pretty easy to using an excel to give Factory averages. However it is not in the Industry's interest for this to be published.

Price there up to 23rd

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx

just do it · 30-11-2014 9:26pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

The new app is supposed to give the average R price for cattle for each factory. It is not Rocket science. The Dept gets it returns from factory's every Monday morning along with weekly kill. it is pretty easy to using an excel to give Factory averages. However it is not in the Industry's interest for this to be published.

There all there on the Department website already. A weekly excel with national averages and individual factory prices
http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2014/meatmarketreport-averagepricesincludingvatforsteerscowsheifersyoungbullsandbulls/

just do it · 30-11-2014 9:29pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Farmers are price takers, nothing gonna change that.
Supply and demand is the only thing that's going to influence prices.

+1

Farmer Pudsey · 30-11-2014 10:22pm

rangler1 wrote: »

Price there up to 23rd

http://www.bordbia.ie/industry/farmers/pricetracking/cattle/pages/eucountries.aspx

just do it wrote: »

There all there on the Department website already. A weekly excel with national averages and individual factory prices
http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/farmingsectors/beef/beeffactorypricesweeklyreports/2014/meatmarketreport-averagepricesincludingvatforsteerscowsheifersyoungbullsandbulls/

Neither of these are the app prices. The advantage of the app was you could compare different factory base prices fairly fast for cattle. Bord bia gives national prices the dept averages to a certain extent are all over the place you have to open different sheets for different stock and factory's.

Brass Tag · 02-12-2014 5:03pm

Farmer Pudsey wrote: »

Neither of these are the app prices. The advantage of the app was you could compare different factory base prices fairly fast for cattle. Bord bia gives national prices the dept averages to a certain extent are all over the place you have to open different sheets for different stock and factory's.

The fact that the app is no longer being updated shows how much the words and promises of Coveney can be believed.

Meanwhile Teagasc beef outlook not good http://www.agriland.ie/news/13-beef-farmers-make-profit-teagasc/

simx · 02-12-2014 5:50pm

Anyone kill cows this week?

Nettleman · 03-12-2014 11:48am

apparently €4 base for QA heifers over and under age in west this week

whelan2 · 03-12-2014 12:39pm

simx wrote: »

Anyone kill cows this week?

no was going to ask the same

Cavanjack · 03-12-2014 12:56pm

whelan2 wrote: »

no was going to ask the same

Yeah 3.30 for o's dumbia

simx · 03-12-2014 12:58pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

Yeah 3.30 for o's dumbia

would ya get 3.30 flat for o&ps do ya think? ya hear anything about rs?

Cavanjack · 03-12-2014 1:09pm

simx wrote: »

would ya get 3.30 flat for o&ps do ya think? ya hear anything about rs?

I'd have no reason to know that

Don't think id have got that for p's. Only had 7. Maybe you'd get it seeing you kill a lot of cows.

simx · 03-12-2014 1:15pm

Cavanjack wrote: »

I'd have no reason to know that
Don't think id have got that for p's. Only had 7. Maybe you'd get it seeing you kill a lot of cows.

haha, i can only afford to buy the odd O here and there, got 3.25 flat for o&ps last week but only had 7, 3 os and 4 ps, will have 12 or 14 to go in a couple of weeks will be hoping for 3.30

... dont know about a lot of cows now, lad up the road from me must kill 250-300 culls/annum. hes getting 3.30 flat for the last month/6 weeks

beef price tracker

Comments