Anyone sitting BS2 Exams?

Butters111 · 11-05-2010 6:47pm

Thanks. Organisations lecturer said she'll try push them forward but that its not likely. IR guy i doubt will and market research I'd say we will cause on moodle there's a title- group project results- so hopefully!

Butters111 · 11-05-2010 8:25pm

Anyone know much about the implications for industrial policy in Ireland?

DeadMoney · 11-05-2010 8:46pm

Butters111 wrote: »

Anyone know much about the implications for industrial policy in Ireland?

sorry don't know. But I did just read on the facebook page that apparently all that is required to pass is to define what is asked in the question (with or without comparisons). The lecturer said this in the revision class last week, so at least at worse case scenario if you know **** all about the topic, as long as you explain what the stuff means without going in to a lot of depth you should be good. This is great news for an under-achiever like myself.

Butters111 · 11-05-2010 9:00pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

sorry don't know. But I did just read on the facebook page that apparently all that is required to pass is to define what is asked in the question (with or without comparisons). The lecturer said this in the revision class last week, so at least at worse case scenario if you know **** all about the topic, as long as you explain what the stuff means without going in to a lot of depth you should be good. This is great news for an under-achiever like myself.

Interesting! ha yeah i'm just hoping i don't fail!

DeadMoney · 11-05-2010 10:43pm

Hey in financial management, does anyone know what is required to do the following question? Its driving me nuts and I know its simple enough to do, just can't figure out what it is.

Question goes "pay us €100 for 10 years and then we pay you €100 a year forever. Is this a good deal if the interest rate available on other deposits is 6%?"

Think its something to do with present value and perpetuities.

sinn7 · 11-05-2010 11:22pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hey in financial management, does anyone know what is required to do the following question? Its driving me nuts and I know its simple enough to do, just can't figure out what it is.

Question goes "pay us €100 for 10 years and then we pay you €100 a year forever. Is this a good deal if the interest rate available on other deposits is 6%?"

Think its something to do with present value and perpetuities.

I think you do it like this:
Present Value of Annuity = Cashflow*interest rate (from tables)
PV = 100*7.360
PV = 736 (this is how much the deal will cost you)

Present Value of Perpetuity = Cashflow/interest rate (from question)
PV = 100/0.06
PV = 1666.67 (this is what you'll recieve)

So since what you'll recieve is greater than what you'll pay, it is a good deal. Pretty sure that's how you do it...if I'm wrong please let me know!!

DeadMoney · 11-05-2010 11:36pm

sinn7 wrote: »

I think you do it like this:
Present Value of Annuity = Cashflow*interest rate (from tables)
PV = 100*7.360
PV = 736 (this is how much the deal will cost you)

Present Value of Perpetuity = Cashflow/interest rate (from question)
PV = 100/0.06
PV = 1666.67 (this is what you'll recieve)

So since what you'll recieve is greater than what you'll pay, it is a good deal. Pretty sure that's how you do it...if I'm wrong please let me know!!

Thanks your a life saver! I've also realized that I was doing these a way harder way by calculating instead of just using the tables. This is far easier

An Citeog · 12-05-2010 12:48am

sinn7 wrote: »

I think you do it like this:
Present Value of Annuity = Cashflow*interest rate (from tables)
PV = 100*7.360
PV = 736 (this is how much the deal will cost you)

Present Value of Perpetuity = Cashflow/interest rate (from question)
PV = 100/0.06
PV = 1666.67 (this is what you'll recieve)

So since what you'll recieve is greater than what you'll pay, it is a good deal. Pretty sure that's how you do it...if I'm wrong please let me know!!

It's nearly right. I don't want to confuse you but it depends on whether the first payment is made in T=0 or T=1. How was it done in the lecture examples/tutorials?

Also, for the perpetuity, it doesn't start paying out until T=10 or T=11 (depending on when you start your payments in the first part), so you'll have to discount that back to T=0.

ie. Present Value of Perpetuity = 1666.67/1.06^10 (or ^11, depending)

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 1:09am

An Citeog wrote: »

It's nearly right. I don't want to confuse you but it depends on whether the first payment is made in T=0 or T=1. How was it done in the lecture examples/tutorials?

Also, for the perpetuity, it doesn't start paying out until T=10 or T=11 (depending on when you start your payments in the first part), so you'll have to discount that back to T=0.

ie. Present Value of Perpetuity = 1666.67/1.06^10 (or ^11, depending)

Hi the above question was part of a short question section and it was literally written as above, ie, no information about what year the first payment was made. I know in the longer versions of these type of question we are given cash flows that say year 0, year 1, year 2 etc but for the above this was not the case.

An Citeog · 12-05-2010 9:15am

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hi the above question was part of a short question section and it was literally written as above, ie, no information about what year the first payment was made. I know in the longer versions of these type of question we are given cash flows that say year 0, year 1, year 2 etc but for the above this was not the case.

Then if that's all that's given and he hasn't given you a sample solution in any of the notes/tutorials, just state your assumption at the top of the question and work away.

I'd assume that the first payment is now (Y0) and that subsequent payments are made at the start of each year until the 10th payment has been made (ie. Y1-9)

The present value of your outflow = 100 + 100(6.8017) = €780.17

Assuming then that you'll start to receive the perpetuity from the beginning of Y10:

PV of perpetuity (inflow) = (100/0.6)/1.06^10 = €930.66

The PV of your inflow is greater than the PV of your outflow (positive NPV), so it is a good deal.

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 11:13am

An Citeog wrote: »

Then if that's all that's given and he hasn't given you a sample solution in any of the notes/tutorials, just state your assumption at the top of the question and work away.

I'd assume that the first payment is now (Y0) and that subsequent payments are made at the start of each year until the 10th payment has been made (ie. Y1-9)

The present value of your outflow = 100 + 100(6.8017) = €780.17

Assuming then that you'll start to receive the perpetuity from the beginning of Y10:

PV of perpetuity (inflow) = (100/0.6)/1.06^10 = €930.66

The PV of your inflow is greater than the PV of your outflow (positive NPV), so it is a good deal.

Thanks!

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 11:18am

An Citeog wrote: »

The present value of your outflow = 100 + 100(6.8017) = €780.17

Sorry where did you get this figure again?

cartman555 · 12-05-2010 11:35am

does anyone know for IR, he said Q3 was on lecture 10 and Q4 was on 13. But lecture 10 is on the non-union approach on moodle but in the course outline it's on the role of the state. He said as well that Q3 is based on chapter 4 in the book, which is to to do with the role of the state,does anyone know which one we're supposed to do?

An Citeog · 12-05-2010 11:37am

DeadMoney wrote: »

Sorry where did you get this figure again?

If you assume that the first payment is made in Y0, the other 9 payments are made in Y1-9

PV = 100 + 100*(Annuity Factor for 9 years @6%)

You can find the annuity factor in the tables or you can calculate it manually:

AF = (1/r - 1/r(1+r)^n)

You calculate the annuity factor for 9 years because if the first payment of €100 is made now, the 10th payment will be made in 9 years time.

That any clearer?:)

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 11:45am

cartman555 wrote: »

does anyone know for IR, he said Q3 was on lecture 10 and Q4 was on 13. But lecture 10 is on the non-union approach on moodle but in the course outline it's on the role of the state. He said as well that Q3 is based on chapter 4 in the book, which is to to do with the role of the state,does anyone know which one we're supposed to do?

Sorry I don't know but i've heard there is confusion over this. I'm choosing to just cover sections 1-4 i.e, Q1&2

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 11:46am

An Citeog wrote: »

If you assume that the first payment is made in Y0, the other 9 payments are made in Y1-9

PV = 100 + 100*(Annuity Factor for 9 years @6%)

You can find the annuity factor in the tables or you can calculate it manually:

AF = (1/r - 1/r(1+r)^n)

You calculate the annuity factor for 9 years because if the first payment of €100 is made now, the 10th payment will be made in 9 years time.

That any clearer?:)

ty:)

sinn7 · 12-05-2010 12:04pm

An Citeog wrote: »

If you assume that the first payment is made in Y0, the other 9 payments are made in Y1-9

PV = 100 + 100*(Annuity Factor for 9 years @6%)

You can find the annuity factor in the tables or you can calculate it manually:

AF = (1/r - 1/r(1+r)^n)

You calculate the annuity factor for 9 years because if the first payment of €100 is made now, the 10th payment will be made in 9 years time.

That any clearer?:)

What I'm confised about though is I have an example from the lectures I've been following which says, "Calculate the PV of an annuity paying €50 a year for 5 years when the interest rate is 10%"

The way he did it was just 50*3.791 (which is the interest factor for a 5 year annuity at 10% from the tables) giving PV = 189.55

I'm just wondering how is this different to the one you did above?

An Citeog · 12-05-2010 2:33pm

sinn7 wrote: »

What I'm confised about though is I have an example from the lectures I've been following which says, "Calculate the PV of an annuity paying €50 a year for 5 years when the interest rate is 10%"

The way he did it was just 50*3.791 (which is the interest factor for a 5 year annuity at 10% from the tables) giving PV = 189.55

I'm just wondering how is this different to the one you did above?

It all comes down to the assumption you make as to when the cash flow begins. I assumed that you'd have to pay €100 now (Y0), a year from now (Y1) and so on until you've made the 10 annual payments (ie. at the beginning of year 9). The perpetuity would then start paying out from the beginning of year 10. That just seems the most logical to me but it's up to you how you interpret it.

In your example, the first payment is in Y1 rather than Y0, which is why you use the annuity factor for 5 years.

As I said, just state your assumption at the start of the question (ie. 1st payment in Y1) and use the 10 year annuity factor and you should be given full marks.

sinn7 · 12-05-2010 2:34pm

An Citeog wrote: »

It all comes down to the assumption you make as to when the cash flow begins. I assumed that you'd have to pay €100 now (Y0), a year from now (Y1) and so on until you've made the 10 annual payments (ie. at the beginning of year 9). The perpetuity would then start paying out from the beginning of year 10. That just seems the most logical to me but it's up to you how you interpret it.

In your example, the first payment is in Y1 rather than Y0, which is why you use the annuity factor for 5 years.

As I said, just state your assumption at the start of the question (ie. 1st payment in Y1) and use the 10 year annuity factor and you should be given full marks.

Ah okay. Thanks for explaining that!

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 5:01pm

Hey, I'm just revising some of my economics Q's and for the one about variations of Oligopoly I have a description of what Oligopoly is, Basic theories (Cournot & Bertand) and some variations including Product Differentiation, Differentiated reactions, Collusion, and Conjectural Variation.

Anybody have anything else they think is important to mention for this question?
Thanks

sinn7 · 12-05-2010 5:36pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hey, I'm just revising some of my economics Q's and for the one about variations of Oligopoly I have a description of what Oligopoly is, Basic theories (Cournot & Bertand) and some variations including Product Differentiation, Differentiated reactions, Collusion, and Conjectural Variation.

Anybody have anything else they think is important to mention for this question?
Thanks

I have all that and a little bit on Stackelberg Leadership

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 6:03pm

sinn7 wrote: »

I have all that and a little bit on Stackelberg Leadership

oh yeah forgot to throw a bit of that in, thanks

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 10:24pm

What topics are ye guys doing for Industrial relations? I'm doing Sec 1-4 coz he said Q1 and Q2 will be based on this. Should probably do another topic also as a back up in case the questions are tough. Also, it the CA for this worth 30% or 40%?

sinn7 · 12-05-2010 10:26pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

What topics are ye guys doing for Industrial relations? I'm doing Sec 1-4 coz he said Q1 and Q2 will be based on this. Should probably do another topic also as a back up in case the questions are tough. Also, it the CA for this worth 30% or 40%?

The CA is worth 30%. He wanted it to be 40 but they wouldn't let him change it (I think he missed the deadline). I'm gonna try cover them all except the employment relationship because I don't have time to read the article he put up! By them all I mean lectures 1-4, 10 and 13 obviously

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 10:45pm

sinn7 wrote: »

The CA is worth 30%. He wanted it to be 40 but they wouldn't let him change it (I think he missed the deadline). I'm gonna try cover them all except the employment relationship because I don't have time to read the article he put up! By them all I mean lectures 1-4, 10 and 13 obviously

thanks, yeah i've covered that article on the employment relationship but have left out 10 and 13 so far coz I just couldn't bear reading them. Which do you think is as easier topic to study between the two. The less content the better

DeadMoney · 12-05-2010 11:44pm

From looking over lecture 10 and 13 I think 13 is a bit easier to understand. Still a bit confused though as to what needs to be covered in this section? Does this lecture correspond with a chapter in the book, or is it best to just learn all the notes on the slides. Its just the slides seem a bit all over the place.
thanks

sinn7 · 13-05-2010 10:29am

DeadMoney wrote: »

From looking over lecture 10 and 13 I think 13 is a bit easier to understand. Still a bit confused though as to what needs to be covered in this section? Does this lecture correspond with a chapter in the book, or is it best to just learn all the notes on the slides. Its just the slides seem a bit all over the place.
thanks

I'm not sure about easier cos I haven't reached 13 yet, but I do know that 13 is shorter than 10. I haven't once looked at the book though so I've no idea if it corresponds with a particular chapter, sorry

Butters111 · 13-05-2010 10:31am

Hey, for the Selten's Chain Store paradox question do you literally just talk about the theory or does limit pricing and third degree price discrimination etc. come into it? Thanks

sinn7 · 13-05-2010 10:35am

Butters111 wrote: »

Hey, for the Selten's Chain Store paradox question do you literally just talk about the theory or does limit pricing and third degree price discrimination etc. come into it? Thanks

I didn't mention them although my notes do seem a bit short for that question so it's probably up to you

Butters111 · 13-05-2010 4:49pm

sinn7 wrote: »

I didn't mention them although my notes do seem a bit short for that question so it's probably up to you

Hey I'm tryin to tackle that q now because its either that or NSI! I'm a bit confused with what to write for the essay because there's not much that I can find in the book about selten's chain store besides page 228? If anyone could give me some idea on the direction to take would be much appreciated

DeadMoney · 13-05-2010 5:52pm

Butters111 wrote: »

Hey I'm tryin to tackle that q now because its either that or NSI! I'm a bit confused with what to write for the essay because there's not much that I can find in the book about selten's chain store besides page 228? If anyone could give me some idea on the direction to take would be much appreciated

This question on Selten's chain store drove me nuts last week when I tried to write it. I left in uncompleted coz I really can't seem to grasp the idea of it. All I can tell you is that the paradox in the chain store is that 'the nash equilibrium suggests that the incumbent should cooperate but in practice, resisting the new entrant is more likely'. This is the paradox but dunno what the hell it means so i'm skipping this question and FML if it comes up. :rolleyes:

Anyone know if the marketing slides are good to go by for studying for the exam? I have no book so don't really have any other option but there seems to be a good amount in the slides.

Butters111 · 13-05-2010 6:13pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

This question on Selten's chain store drove me nuts last week when I tried to write it. I left in uncompleted coz I really can't seem to grasp the idea of it. All I can tell you is that the paradox in the chain store is that 'the nash equilibrium suggests that the incumbent should cooperate but in practice, resisting the new entrant is more likely'. This is the paradox but dunno what the hell it means so i'm skipping this question and FML if it comes up. :rolleyes:

Anyone know if the marketing slides are good to go by for studying for the exam? I have no book so don't really have any other option but there seems to be a good amount in the slides.

Its a pain and lecturer won't email back! Feel like I only barely have half of each q answered!!

As far as marketing goes, I'm just gonna do the slides as well, don't have the book and notes are really long anyway. Reckon it will be enough to pass!

DeadMoney · 13-05-2010 6:32pm

Butters111 wrote: »

Its a pain and lecturer won't email back! Feel like I only barely have half of each q answered!!

He's meeting with students individually to discuss the exam, you just have to email him first for a time. If you are worried about it and live in Dublin then might be worth popping in. To be honest though i'm not too worried about economics coz I really think just using basic descriptions of some of the main points of the question is enough to pass. Obviously for a high mark you'd have to go in to more lengthy discussion and analysis but there is just too much **** to learn between all exams so I'm just learning the basic points of each.

Butters111 · 13-05-2010 8:18pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

He's meeting with students individually to discuss the exam, you just have to email him first for a time. If you are worried about it and live in Dublin then might be worth popping in. To be honest though i'm not too worried about economics coz I really think just using basic descriptions of some of the main points of the question is enough to pass. Obviously for a high mark you'd have to go in to more lengthy discussion and analysis but there is just too much **** to learn between all exams so I'm just learning the basic points of each.

Just takes ages to get all the way into DCU for him to probably not be all that helpful! Yeah hopefully its enough to pass! I know you didn't have much for the paradox question but any idea whether ... would be collusion!?

sinn7 · 14-05-2010 1:34pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

This question on Selten's chain store drove me nuts last week when I tried to write it. I left in uncompleted coz I really can't seem to grasp the idea of it. All I can tell you is that the paradox in the chain store is that 'the nash equilibrium suggests that the incumbent should cooperate but in practice, resisting the new entrant is more likely'. This is the paradox but dunno what the hell it means so i'm skipping this question and FML if it comes up. :rolleyes:

Okay well the thing with Selten's Chain Store Paradox (and sorry if you're like yeah I know that already) is basically the original store (aka the incumbent) is obviously making the most profits when it's the only one in the market. So the ideal situation for the original firm is that no new firms enter the market. But they do anyway. So the original firm can either act aggressively (cutting prices etc) to try and force the new firm out of the market or co-operate with them (I'm not sure how they co-operate...collusion?).

If the original firm acts aggresively, both firms will make a loss. If they co-operate both firms will make a profit but this profit will be less than the original firm used to make without competition. So they'll probably act aggressively in the hopes that the new firm will leave the market cos they're making a loss and the original firm can go back to making its old profit. The new firm probably won't leave though and everyone will just make a loss.

The paradox is that game theory shows they'll make more profit by co-operating but even so they'll still act aggressively. It's kind of a catch 22 situation

DeadMoney · 14-05-2010 2:20pm

thanks for the explanation Sinn, this really helps. Your wording is a lot more "reader friendly" than that bloody enonomics book!

DeadMoney · 14-05-2010 2:25pm

Hey do you mind I just have a question about Lecture 13 in Industrial relations if you know? What is the best guide for learning this topic, the slides are sort of hard to follow coz I am not really sure what structure to follow.
thanks

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 11:17am

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hey do you mind I just have a question about Lecture 13 in Industrial relations if you know? What is the best guide for learning this topic, the slides are sort of hard to follow coz I am not really sure what structure to follow.
thanks

Not sure I can help you there, haven't done Lecture 13 yet. Just had a flick through it and I can see what you mean about the layout.

There seems to be a good bit about the history, development and disadvantages of industrial democracy but I'm not sure where partnership comes in...

DeadMoney · 15-05-2010 11:52am

Hey I emailed the economics lecturer and asked him about the exam and stuff. This is his reply, might be useful.

"To prove that you can understand and engage with a question, it is not required that you memorize an essay. I really don't know how much more info I can give you. If you know the main issues and points and can use them to address the question then you'll do fine. The other issue that arises from your question is a common student query on how long the answer must be. It depends on the size of your writing and so on. But if you really need some indication then one page is probably not enough. Does that mean two pages? Obviously, one page of relevant material is better than two pages of irrelevancies".

DeadMoney · 15-05-2010 12:02pm

sinn7 wrote: »

Not sure I can help you there, haven't done Lecture 13 yet. Just had a flick through it and I can see what you mean about the layout.

There seems to be a good bit about the history, development and disadvantages of industrial democracy but I'm not sure where partnership comes in...

ok thanks! I think i'll scrap L.13 and do 10 instead. U don't have guide for that one by any chance? Jesus I better stop picking and choosing and start bloody learning it, its getting close now :rolleyes:

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 2:26pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

Hey I emailed the economics lecturer and asked him about the exam and stuff. This is his reply, might be useful.

"To prove that you can understand and engage with a question, it is not required that you memorize an essay. I really don't know how much more info I can give you. If you know the main issues and points and can use them to address the question then you'll do fine. The other issue that arises from your question is a common student query on how long the answer must be. It depends on the size of your writing and so on. But if you really need some indication then one page is probably not enough. Does that mean two pages? Obviously, one page of relevant material is better than two pages of irrelevancies".

Hahaha sounds like a paragraph right out of his book

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 2:34pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

ok thanks! I think i'll scrap L.13 and do 10 instead. U don't have guide for that one by any chance? Jesus I better stop picking and choosing and start bloody learning it, its getting close now :rolleyes:

I just followed the lecture outline, it's pretty straightforward.

Rise of Non-Unionism
Pros and Cons of Union Recognition
Manager's Reasons for Non-Unionism
Strategies to Remain Union Free and the Circumstances That Lead to Them
Is Non-Unionism Effective?
Union Recognition in Ireland (felt like studying law all over again)
Demand for Unions

It's pretty good cos each topic kind of leads into the next

cartman555 · 15-05-2010 2:55pm

did the marketing lecturer give any exam tips/hints by any chance?:)

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 3:01pm

cartman555 wrote: »

did the marketing lecturer give any exam tips/hints by any chance?:)

Don't think so no

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 4:19pm

Actually on the topic of Market Research...does anyone else find it to be oddly easy/straightforward? I'm wondering is it a trick and that it's actually deceptively hard. Maybe I've been studying too much economics...

DeadMoney · 15-05-2010 5:08pm

sinn7 wrote: »

Actually on the topic of Market Research...does anyone else find it to be oddly easy/straightforward? I'm wondering is it a trick and that it's actually deceptively hard. Maybe I've been studying too much economics...

No I think your right its very straight forward stuff. Almost common sense most of it, but on saying that you never know because its all down to the marker and his/her requirements. The lecturer did practically say that the exam is a no brainer though and just read the past papers so I wouldn't think this exam will be hard at all. People are freaked out though becoz one of the tutors remarked that a number of students went in last year only needing likt 15% and just passed by compensation, indicating the exam was very tough. What she never mentioned until the very last tutorial was that those students probably didn't even look at notes and assumed they were already in the clear from the 50% group project. So I'm not worrying about this exam really, the topics also are always very similar so I'm just going with the common topics.

DeadMoney · 15-05-2010 5:15pm

Also, back up everything in marketing with examples to illustrate. Apparently he loves that.

sinn7 · 15-05-2010 5:16pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

No I think your right its very straight forward stuff. Almost common sense most of it, but on saying that you never know because its all down to the marker and his/her requirements. The lecturer did practically say that the exam is a no brainer though and just read the past papers so I wouldn't think this exam will be hard at all. People are freaked out though becoz one of the tutors remarked that a number of students went in last year only needing likt 15% and just passed by compensation, indicating the exam was very tough. What she never mentioned until the very last tutorial was that those students probably didn't even look at notes and assumed they were already in the clear from the 50% group project. So I'm not worrying about this exam really, the topics also are always very similar so I'm just going with the common topics.

Cool, glad to hear I'm not the only one thinking it's a grand subject. Yeah I remember her saying that they probably did nothing for the exam itself so it's no wonder they failed/barely passed.

Btw on the topic of IR and partnership, found this in one of his articles:

Partnership is defined as ‘an active relationship based on recognition of common interest to secure the competitiveness, viability and prosperity of the enterprise’ (Partnership 2000 agreement). It appears to involve a continuing commitment by employees to improvements in quality and efficiency, and the acceptance by employers of employees as stakeholders with rights and interests to be considered in the context of major decisions affecting their employment. Trade union support for workplace partnership is based on the assumption that it delivers beneficial outcomes to rank-and-file members

Not too sure if that's helpful to anyone but sure there it is anyway

Butters111 · 15-05-2010 5:48pm

DeadMoney wrote: »

Also, back up everything in marketing with examples to illustrate. Apparently he loves that.

Do you reckon we have to have researched companies or just come up with/give obvious examples!?

DeadMoney · 15-05-2010 6:57pm

Butters111 wrote: »

Do you reckon we have to have researched companies or just come up with/give obvious examples!?

No just basic examples to illustrate when you are describing something. Say you are talking about a type of question in a questionnaire for example, just give an example of that type of question, like "Do you purchase coca cola?" etc Pretty much everything in the notes is illustrated with examples anyway so just follow these I'd say.

Anyone sitting BS2 Exams?

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