Boards FF Pay League 2015-16

Lemlin · 13-08-2015 2:18pm

zarquon wrote: »

I would give the benefit of the doubt to some though as bank transfer can be messy or difficult for some people. In years gone by paypal was available and was an instant transfer with no waiting periods. The lack of paypal this year has complicated things slightly.

In fairness, I probably would have set up a Paypal if needed but max four people out of the over 100 that pmed have asked about Paypal.

To be honest, I don't think anyone is gaining an advantage even if they know their score from two weeks. Its a 38 week game. Things change drastically very quickly.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 2:36pm

Lemlin wrote: »

In fairness, I probably would have set up a Paypal if needed but max four people out of the over 100 that pmed have asked about Paypal.

To be honest, I don't think anyone is gaining an advantage even if they know their score from two weeks. Its a 38 week game. Things change drastically very quickly.

In a competition like this where its just a bit of fun it doesn't really matter as long as people don't really start to take the piss! 2 weeks is a decent edge to have though.

stephenl15 · 13-08-2015 2:48pm

jimmii wrote: »

In a competition like this where its just a bit of fun it doesn't really matter as long as people don't really start to take the piss! 2 weeks is a decent edge to have though.

It's not an edge though, they haven't cheated. They just had a better opening two weeks. As long as they expressed an interest before the deadline I say let them in.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 2:54pm

stephenl15 wrote: »

It's not an edge though, they haven't cheated. They just had a better opening two weeks. As long as they expressed an interest before the deadline I say let them in.

Just because its not cheating doesn't mean its not an edge. Having two weeks to decide is most definitely an advantage even if its a small one. Not big enough to stop regular users in though I agree.

zarquon · 13-08-2015 3:05pm

stephenl15 wrote: »

It's not an edge though, they haven't cheated. They just had a better opening two weeks. As long as they expressed an interest before the deadline I say let them in.

That's fair enough. But they need to pay pretty quickly. Anybody that confirms they are joining by tomorrow but still does not pay should be blacklisted. At this stage everyone knows the score and the deadline has been moved twice and people are still hesitant to pay up with indicates that people are waiting to see how their team fares first.

I don't think we should be breaking the rules to get the magical 2K. It's just an arbitrary number and i don't care if prizes are nice round number.

So what is the deal now, is the deadline set to 7.45pm tomorrow to confirm entry. If so i'm ok with that but i wouldn't be ok with people confirming entry after that. People have had over a month to join which was ample time.

I'd definitely give regular posters until 7.45pm tomorrow. New sign ups or zero post wonders should not be allowed in at this stage.

itsnotmyfault · 13-08-2015 3:12pm

Is it just me but i find it very difficult to believe that so many have genuine reasons why they can't get €20 transferred to Lemlin's account in over a month. Surely it's a headache he could without.

I think with the pot so big that €40 for the monthly prize is affordable and worth winning and keeps things interesting if you do fall behind(we can't all win).

Just my opinion and i'll go along with status quo.

Great job Lemlin.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 3:16pm

itsnotmyfault wrote: »

Is it just me but i find it very difficult to believe that so many have genuine reasons why they can't get €20 transferred to Lemlin's account in over a month. Surely it's a headache he could without.

I think with the pot so big that €40 for the monthly prize is affordable and worth winning and keeps things interesting if you do fall behind(we can't all win).

Just my opinion and i'll go along with status quo.

Great job Lemlin.

Yeh being out of the country is only really an excuse if you've been gone for 4 or 5 weeks at this stage and didn't take the little card transfery machiney thingy (I believe that is what they are called) and anything else really isn't an excuse at all for anyone at home there's really no reason they can give why they couldn't spare 30 seconds to transfer some money and save Lemlin all this hassle after he's been good enough to put this on for us all.

stiffler123 · 13-08-2015 3:31pm

itsnotmyfault wrote: »

Is it just me but i find it very difficult to believe that so many have genuine reasons why they can't get €20 transferred to Lemlin's account in over a month. Surely it's a headache he could without.

I think with the pot so big that €40 for the monthly prize is affordable and worth winning and keeps things interesting if you do fall behind(we can't all win).

Just my opinion and i'll go along with status quo.

Great job Lemlin.

Agree with this 100%. I think 40 euro monthly keeps those of us that aren't pros at the game in the reckoning. Also there should be a cut off of people joining by the start of gw2. Any longer just reeks of angle shooting.

Lemlin · 13-08-2015 3:58pm

General consensus (although I don't agree with it personally) seems to be:

People have until 7.45 tomorrow to confirm they have transferred the money to me.

Therefore we'll go with that. I will pm the individuals now.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 4:01pm

Lemlin wrote: »

General consensus (although I don't agree with it personally) seems to be:

People have until 7.45 tomorrow to confirm they have transferred the money to me.

Therefore we'll go with that. I will pm the individuals now.

More than fair! Hopefully it will get those last few stragglers moving!

zarquon · 13-08-2015 4:04pm

Lemlin wrote: »

General consensus (although I don't agree with it personally) seems to be:

People have until 7.45 tomorrow to confirm they have transferred the money to me.

Therefore we'll go with that. I will pm the individuals now.

More than fair and if anyone has problems getting to the bank or doing online transfer they can paypal me and i'll transfer the funds to you. I'll PM my paypal address to you now as a backup.

Lemlin · 13-08-2015 4:10pm

I've 27 hours to decide if I want to join myself so.... one minute I think I should and the next I think leave it.

And before anyone mentions it, if I join, I pay. Please don't mention me having free entry because its only €20 and mrwillbeback did it for years and paid in himself.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 4:11pm

If anyone wants to pay vis PS then PM me for my SN and I will send via BT to Lemlin. Did the same for the UFPL league earlier happy to do it again if its something someone wants.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 4:13pm

Lemlin wrote: »

I've 27 hours to decide if I want to join myself so.... one minute I think I should and the next I think leave it.

And before anyone mentions it, if I join, I pay. Please don't mention me having free entry because its only €20 and mrwillbeback did it for years and paid in himself.

Given the amount of work its taken to set this up I think its only fair that you should be remunerated for that time in some way.

Swiper the fox · 13-08-2015 4:15pm

Lemlin wrote: »

I've 27 hours to decide if I want to join myself so.... one minute I think I should and the next I think leave it.

And before anyone mentions it, if I join, I pay. Please don't mention me having free entry because its only €20 and mrwillbeback did it for years and paid in himself.

Ha ha, all this goodwill can't be sitting well with you, years of building up the image of Forum heavyweight who never suffers fools and now you're like Mother Theresa:P:pac:, all the newcomers must think you're a teddy bear;)

jimmii · 13-08-2015 4:15pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Ha ha, all this goodwill can't be sitting well with you, years of building up the image of Forum heavyweight who never suffers fools and now you're like Mother Theresa:P:pac:, all the newcomers must think you're a teddy bear;)

And then they venture into the captains thread and are like :eek:

Swiper the fox · 13-08-2015 4:19pm

jimmii wrote: »

And then they venture into the captains thread and are like :eek:

Haven't been in there yet, on my way now:p

jimmii · 13-08-2015 4:21pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Haven't been in there yet, on my way now:p

It started with something about Rooney and his recent away record and turned into a big debate on whether players having preferred teams/grounds to play at interesting read.

Swiper the fox · 13-08-2015 4:55pm

jimmii wrote: »

It started with something about Rooney and his recent away record and turned into a big debate on whether players having preferred teams/grounds to play at interesting read.

I'll go back to the financial times I think, that was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back

jimmii · 13-08-2015 5:00pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I'll go back to the financial times I think, that was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back

lol! Yeh I guess it wasn't that interesting! Lived up the captain thread which lets be honest normally isn't the most riveting!

Lemlin · 13-08-2015 5:10pm

Swiper the fox wrote: »

I'll go back to the financial times I think, that was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back

A Limerick man reading The Financial Times...

I call bull****. You'd at least know the title of a paper gets capital letters! :rolleyes:

zarquon · 13-08-2015 5:13pm

Lemlin wrote: »

A Limerick man reading The Financial Times...

I call bull****. You'd at least know the title of a paper gets capital letters! :rolleyes:

A paper called The FT. He probably thought it was FPL related :P

jimmii · 13-08-2015 5:16pm

Lemlin wrote: »

A Limerick man reading The Financial Times...

I call bull****. You'd at least know the title of a paper gets capital letters! :rolleyes:

Reading a pink paper in Limerick what could go wrong!

Swiper the fox · 13-08-2015 5:21pm

Lemlin wrote: »

A Limerick man reading The Financial Times...

I call bull****. You'd at least know the title of a paper gets capital letters! :rolleyes:

How many times do I have to tell you I'm from Cork???

Just cause the only paper you ever read was the Anglo Celt don't be giving me jip for trying to better myself;)

Fowler87 · 13-08-2015 6:42pm

I'm one of the unpaid players as am waiting on card reader from bank to transfer funds to Lemlin. But I do have PayPal so if someone wants to pm me they can forward on the 20e on my behalf. If not Il omit from league if I can't get funds transferred directly by tomorrow evening

Liam O · 13-08-2015 6:49pm

Fowler87 wrote: »

I'm one of the unpaid players as am waiting on card reader from bank to transfer funds to Lemlin. But I do have PayPal so if someone wants to pm me they can forward on the 20e on my behalf. If not Il omit from league if I can't get funds transferred directly by tomorrow evening

I may be in a similar situation, happy to transfer to PayPal but having some online banking problems. May have to drop out, unsure my boss will think it a good enough excuse to take a long lunch tomorrow, which has been the issue from the start really

I'll know for sure tomorrow though.

zarquon · 13-08-2015 6:55pm

Lads i've pm'ed you paypal details. As per my earlier post, anyone having banking problems can paypal me and i'll transfer to Lemlin.

jimmii · 13-08-2015 7:07pm

Liam O wrote: »

I may be in a similar situation, happy to transfer to PayPal but having some online banking problems. May have to drop out, unsure my boss will think it a good enough excuse to take a long lunch tomorrow, which has been the issue from the start really I'll know for sure tomorrow though.

Just tell him its for FSA FPL he'll surely understand!

zarquon · 13-08-2015 7:16pm

A few pms coming in now. Looks like a few are having trouble with code readers and were putting off entering. I really think that we need the paypal option for next year to avoid this. Happy to take paypal payments over the next 24 hours for anyone that can't do a bank transfer for whatever reason.

SlickRic · 13-08-2015 7:17pm

I'll get to a bank tomorrow.

Sorry if the delay has annoyed people. I understand it's difficult to trust strangers on the Internet, but it's not due to looking for an advantage. Real life got in the way at the wrong time and I couldn't get to a bank whenever I managed to think of it.

Lemlin · 13-08-2015 9:16pm

zarquon wrote: »

A few pms coming in now. Looks like a few are having trouble with code readers and were putting off entering. I really think that we need the paypal option for next year to avoid this. Happy to take paypal payments over the next 24 hours for anyone that can't do a bank transfer for whatever reason.

Well I can either set one up or someone like yourself takes the PayPal payments and sends then to me when all are collated at the end.

zarquon · 13-08-2015 9:20pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Well I can either set one up or someone like yourself takes the PayPal payments and sends then to me when all are collated at the end.

That would work too. Main thing would be just to have a paypal address to communicate as an alternative. If you want someone else to help with that, fair enough.

I can help with the paypal payments for now.

Fowler87 · 13-08-2015 9:27pm

Payment sent to zarquon

FHFC · 13-08-2015 10:17pm

Lemlin wrote: »

€2000 Total.

My own feeling is that someone winning a monthly prize should at least get a profit on what they put in. It's not much of an incentive to just win back your entry amount. €30 I'd see as the minimum monthly amount. €10 profit for someone for a couple of pints!

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

This prize structure looks good to me.

I agree minimum of €30 for the monthly prizes. 40 would be no harm but 30 is fine.

manual_man · 13-08-2015 10:29pm

Lemlin wrote: »

€2000 Total.

10 x €30 Monthly Prizes = €300

Leaves €1700 (exact figure still to be confirmed) for other prizes.

The €1700 could then be split:

First - 45% - €765
Second - 25% - €425
Third - 15% - €255
4th - 10% - €170
5th - 5% - €85

If the total isn't €2000, I can just still keep to the percentages above. I know the figures are odd but the percentages is a nice way of splitting it out and allows me to do same whatever figure we have when everyone has paid.

€35 for a monthly prize maybe?

remaining €1650 could then be divvied as follows:

First - €750
Second - €400
Third - €250
Fourth - €150
Fifth - €100

tossy · 14-08-2015 9:22am

manual_man wrote: »

€35 for a monthly prize maybe?

remaining €1650 could then be divvied as follows:

First - €750
Second - €400
Third - €250
Fourth - €150
Fifth - €100

Personally i feel 1st place should be getting more than 350e over what 2nd place gets. No need to give prizes for 4th or 5th (or even 3rd really).

I don't get the idea of monthly prizes but i'm not knocking it. I think a bonus for top on christmas day would be nice.

Either way it's Lemlins baby so i'm easy.

Lemlin · 14-08-2015 9:26am

tossy wrote: »

Personally i feel 1st place should be getting more than 350e over what 2nd place gets. No need to give prizes for 4th or 5th (or even 3rd really).

I don't get the idea of monthly prizes but i'm not knocking it. I think a bonus for top on christmas day would be nice.

Either way it's Lemlins baby so i'm easy.

It's the community's baby. This isn't a dictatorship! I'm just holding the cash. Will distribute it whatever way people see fit.

I do think monthly prizes are good though. They give a chance to someone who is out of the running for the main prize.

Lemlin · 14-08-2015 9:29am

Thanks to Zarquon's help with Paypal, we now have 98 people confirmed as paid. Przie fund of €1960. A few others are going to the bank to make lodgements or I have given them Zarquon's details.

1. Boots234
2. Stephenl15
3. Alchemist33
4. FinnHarpsBoy
5. TaytoCrisps
6. BikeRacer
7. OneColdHand
8. Spock
9. Hackers
10. FHFC
11. CSF
12. Jimmii
13. Ziegler1988
14. KevIRL
15. Maximo31
16. The incredible pudding
17. Cdev
18. Markx
19. internet_user
20. Dearg81
21. Menoscemo
22. Mrwillbeback
23. Remoteboy
24. Lassykk
25. Hardbreaks
26. Zarquon
27. beeduybe
28. MrMac84
29. FrClintPower
30. Wamble
31. Mike Ehrmantraut
32. Wardie101
33. Crumbs
34. Dice75
35. Swiper the Fox
36. Joeyjoejoe43
37. Tossy
38. Trimm Trabb
39. Patmac
40. Chesty08
41. Arnold Layne
42. Username_here
43. Scorpion Sting
44. Furryhead
45. Boba_Fett3099
46. Necronomican
47. Bazwin
48. grohlisagod
49. skyfall256
50. Dublinhead
51. Greedygoblin
52. Seklly
53. Stiffler123
54. Mcgettigan16
55. itsnotmyfault
56. Jaws2
57. Cluray
58. Dahat
59. Boofsteino
60. AKDK
61. Park1ife
62. Easy Rod
63. Nib
64. Timbel
65. silversun_pickup
66. handofdog
67. Hairy_Nipples_87
68. Fizman
69. Headerman
70. FPL48
71. Hype710
72. Earthhorse
73. james123
74. Ironman76
75. Lucas Hood
76. Iused2likebusts
77. OwlsZat
78. P.Walnuts
79. bkrangle
80. MrSkinny
81. Lefty2Guns
82. LightningBlue
83. Nightingale
84. Claw
85. Thunderdog
86. Cypher_Sounds
87. Christal Palace
88. muletide
89. Irish Son
90. Podge018
91. Toalken
92. Adpro
93. Lucky Charms
94. Thewools
95. Liam O
96. Fowler87
97. KoA-Ollie
98. shayno90

Ziegler1988 · 14-08-2015 9:31am

tossy wrote: »

Personally i feel 1st place should be getting more than 350e over what 2nd place gets. No need to give prizes for 4th or 5th (or even 3rd really).

I don't get the idea of monthly prizes but i'm not knocking it. I think a bonus for top on christmas day would be nice.

Either way it's Lemlins baby so i'm easy.

Top 2 or 3 payout out of 100 players is a bit cruel, you can finish top 5% and not get anything. I'd vote money back for monthly prizes but am perfectly happy with the structure Lemlin posted above

Lemlin · 14-08-2015 9:32am

Prizes are locked in. If we go over the 2k, I say we just add any additional 20s onto the winner's prize fund.

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

Scorpion Sting · 14-08-2015 9:40am

I'd like to see:

10 x €40 monthly prizes - €400

1st - €800
2nd - €400
3rd - €220
4th - €110
5th - €70

First place should be well rewarded and I think that the monthly prizes should be €40 each instead of your €20 back.

FrClintPower · 14-08-2015 9:41am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

What do people think? Would like to try and get this firmed up today because I'm off work and off to Mallorca after the weekend to spend all your money!!

Looks good to me.

spock. · 14-08-2015 9:44am

tossy wrote:

Personally i feel 1st place should be getting more than 350e over what 2nd place gets. No need to give prizes for 4th or 5th (or even 3rd really).

I disagree.
Finishing 4th or 5th out of 100 deserves some reward.

Ziegler1988 · 14-08-2015 9:45am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

What do people think? Would like to try and get this firmed up today because I'm off work and off to Mallorca after the weekend to spend all your money!!

Fine with me

Swiper the fox · 14-08-2015 9:46am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

What do people think? Would like to try and get this firmed up today because I'm off work and off to Mallorca after the weekend to spend all your money!!

That's my favourite that I've seen so far, the only thing that's nagging me now is the thought that if we reduced the monthly to 20 we could easily get a clean 1 thousand to the winner, now that would be a competition worth winning.:P

hufpc8w3adnk65 · 14-08-2015 9:51am

Scorpion Sting wrote: »

I'd like to see:

10 x €40 monthly prizes - €400

1st - €800
2nd - €400
3rd - €220
4th - €110
5th - €70

First place should be well rewarded and I think that the monthly prizes should be €40 each instead of your €20 back.

I like this one too!

stephenl15 · 14-08-2015 9:57am

tossy wrote: »

Personally i feel 1st place should be getting more than 350e over what 2nd place gets. No need to give prizes for 4th or 5th (or even 3rd really).

I don't get the idea of monthly prizes but i'm not knocking it. I think a bonus for top on christmas day would be nice.

Either way it's Lemlins baby so i'm easy.

I think the top five should get something at least. There is like 100 teams after all. Certainly top 3 anyway whatever about top 5. And imo money back for monthly winners is the best option

jimmii · 14-08-2015 10:00am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

What do people think? Would like to try and get this firmed up today because I'm off work and off to Mallorca after the weekend to spend all your money!!

I still prefer to go just €20 monthly but for €30 this looks good.

stephenl15 · 14-08-2015 10:04am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

What do people think? Would like to try and get this firmed up today because I'm off work and off to Mallorca after the weekend to spend all your money!!

Happy with that

handofdog · 14-08-2015 10:13am

Lemlin wrote: »

I'm a fan of this option but would prefer a €30 monthly prize so:

10 x €30 for the month
1st €850
2nd €500
3rd €200
4th €100
5th €50

I'm happy with that.

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