10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

ibarelycare · 20-07-2012 10:55am

Someone on Reddit has posted about being there.

Boyfriend and I have evacuated safe and sound. The shooting began during a gunfight scene in the movie, and at first, we thought it was special effects when smoke rose up. When shots happened again and people began to run, we thought something was up. A guy ran in and shouted there was a gunman in the building, and the alarms to emergency evacuate started to go off.
I now know what tear gas feels like. I've never had to 'get down' with a police officer screaming at us. This is the most ****ed up night of my short life. I need an army of kitten photos stat.
[1] http://whotalking.com/Century+16
[Edit] Thank you for the well wishes everyone. Heart is still racing, especially reading up on it still. Apparently, not long after we evacuated the premises, an explosion went off, and the death toll has risen to 12, with 20 more injured: [2] http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365147/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-shooting.htm

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Lumbo · 20-07-2012 10:58am

Any word on the gunman(men)?

Hande hoche! · 20-07-2012 10:58am

http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx
News stream on the event.

Duggy747 · 20-07-2012 10:59am

Probably dressed up as Bane carrying a rucksack. Other people had dressed up for it so he thought nobody would look twice at him as he prepped there and then at the cinema.

I am pie · 20-07-2012 10:59am

Death Sentence is still on the books in Colorado, although very rarely used. It would be a shame to use it here. I can't help but think this particular murderer should be given a lifetime to reflect on his actions in a very small cell.

Temaz · 20-07-2012 10:59am

Lumbo wrote: »

Any word on the gunman(men)?

Early 20's, in custody.

Bad Panda · 20-07-2012 11:00am

Lumbo wrote: »

Any word on the gunman(men)?

One guy. They have him in custody and are searching his apartment - they've ordered the whole building be evacuated incase of explosives.

Hande hoche! · 20-07-2012 11:00am

Duggy747 wrote: »

Probably dressed up as Bane carrying a rucksack. Other people had dressed up for it so he thought nobody would look twice at him as he prepped there and then at the cinema.

One account said the gunman opened an emergency door, threw in some type of smoke/gas grenade and then began shooting.

old hippy · 20-07-2012 11:01am

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Shootings in the USA..

Yawnnnnn.

Using any excuse to bash the USA...

Yawnnn.

I agree that there are fundamental problems within US culture but every country has their achilles heel, so to speak. Perhaps US bashing could take a break just for one day?

seamus · 20-07-2012 11:06am

While the free availability of military weaponry (tear gas and automatic weapons FFS) is definitely an issue in the U.S., I don't think that incidents like this can be blamed on such.

Fncked up people exist. And sometimes fncked up people do fncked up things. If the U.S. gun laws were tighter, this guy would still have walked in carrying two pistols and shot up the place. OK, the casualities may have been slightly less, but I don't think that it would be any less shocking.

The USA is a big place. 300 million people. So every so often you get a messed up incident like this. It has nothing to do with gun laws or with Americans. With a population that size, you inevitably get a fncked up incident every now and again. Europe has a similar population, and occassionally we have an Anders Breivik or a Cumbrian tax driver come out of the woodwork.

This is not an issue of culture or attitude. It's just one of those things that happens.

meoklmrk91 · 20-07-2012 11:07am

****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.

kevmol88 · 20-07-2012 11:07am

Aurora is a suburb of Denver near the scene of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting, in which 13 people were shot dead and another 24 were wounded.

demakinz · 20-07-2012 11:08am

This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.

old hippy · 20-07-2012 11:11am

demakinz wrote: »

This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.

And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

kevmol88 · 20-07-2012 11:11am

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.

Children are reportedly among those shot.

One person at the theatre who spoke to local television station 9News described what he heard a fellow witness tell her boyfriend:
"The really messed up part for me is that she said she saw bullet holes in the little girl's back."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558

Dave! · 20-07-2012 11:12am

meoklmrk91 wrote: »

****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.

2 witnesses reporting it on the news

http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

meoklmrk91 · 20-07-2012 11:13am

kevmol88 wrote: »

Children are reportedly among those shot.

One person at the theatre who spoke to local television station 9News described what he heard a fellow witness tell her boyfriend:
"The really messed up part for me is that she said she saw bullet holes in the little girl's back."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558

Dave! wrote: »

2 witnesses reporting it on the news

http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

Was just watching it there, when they mentioned it my heart just sank, just so sad

Teyla Emmagan · 20-07-2012 11:13am

Is this another rabid Christoper Nolan fan who couldn't handle the fact the new movie is getting a load of cr&ppy reviews?

DrumSteve · 20-07-2012 11:13am

old hippy wrote: »

demakinz wrote: »

This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.

And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

It'll solve that **** being alive.

Dravokivich · 20-07-2012 11:13am

old hippy wrote: »

And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

The death penalty isn't a solution, it's considered a result.

Basq · 20-07-2012 11:13am

Teyla Emmagan wrote: »

Is this another rabid Christoper Nolan fan who couldn't handle the fact the new movie is getting a load of cr&ppy reviews?

Stop... just stop!

kfallon · 20-07-2012 11:14am

old hippy wrote: »

And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

frag420 · 20-07-2012 11:15am

Wonder if it had anything to do with Swedish House Mafia on the soundtrack:D

dharma200 · 20-07-2012 11:18am

I know this is in after hours but cop the fcuk on.. wtf is wrong with some people

seamus · 20-07-2012 11:18am

kfallon wrote: »

An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

You still haven't explained what killing him solves though. Surely if the goal is punish him, then torture would be preferable? If you kill him, he's gone. There's no heaven or hell, the guy won't "pay" for what he's done, because he'll be dead.

paddyandy · 20-07-2012 11:20am

The Cinema has followed us home and is outside our homes every night .

Laika1986 · 20-07-2012 11:21am

Sky news now showing a bomb disposal robot at a car in the shopping mall

Basq · 20-07-2012 11:23am

6 victims in a local Children's Hospital.. the youngest victim is 6 years old!

smash · 20-07-2012 11:23am

Youngest wounded victim brought to hospital is 6 according to reports.

hooradiation · 20-07-2012 11:24am

paddyandy wrote: »

The Cinema has followed us home and is outside our homes every night .

I thought I was the only person being stalked by buildings!

Hande hoche! · 20-07-2012 11:24am

blatantrereg wrote: »

It's causing the film to be mentioned a lot in the news. Brings a different meaning to guerrilla marketing

It's been done. Made quite a few people unhappy.

meoklmrk91 · 20-07-2012 11:24am

9News just reported that the youngest victim brought to the childrens hospital because of a bullet wound is 6:(

SocSocPol · 20-07-2012 11:24am

Just another horrific massace in a country that consider the right of every lunatic to have a gun to be more sacred than the right of people not to be gunned down.
RIP to the dead, when will the USA wake up to the need for real gun control?

kfallon · 20-07-2012 11:25am

seamus wrote: »

You still haven't explained what killing him solves though. Surely if the goal is punish him, then torture would be preferable? If you kill him, he's gone. There's no heaven or hell, the guy won't "pay" for what he's done, because he'll be dead.

He's dead, he no longer exists, I'm not sure there's a worse punishment than that. Also if you lock him up then in a roundabout way the people affected by their loved ones being murdered are actually contributing (thru tax) to put a roof over his head and three square meals a day in front of him!

And why waste resources torturing him every day?

carbon nanotube · 20-07-2012 11:28am

Lollipops23 wrote: »

carbon nanotube wrote: »

Shootings in the USA..

Yawnnnnn.

I feel sad for you that you can't empathise as a human being.

Really, I do.

I have plenty empathy, see my post on Mauritius..

But America and guns.. meh, just seems normal for them. And half of Americas are thick as syrup.

You have only to read crap on the web about them to put 2+2 together.

As long as kids can take guns into McDonalds over there this won't be the last shooting in our lifetime in the states

smash · 20-07-2012 11:28am

The news have said they keep hearing about a baby but there are no confirmed reports on that. It's possible that people referred to the 6yr old as the baby.

Micky Dolenz · 20-07-2012 11:28am

humanji wrote: »

This is not the place to discuss what constitutes comedy. And this is neither the time or place for jokes. Stick to the topic.

Fair warning.

old hippy · 20-07-2012 11:28am

kfallon wrote: »

An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

Ah, some good old fashioned Old Testament style vengeance and retribution to satisfy your blood lust and feelings of helplesness over the tragedy.

Yep, that's surely the only way to progress to a better society. Or continue a cycle of violence.

smash · 20-07-2012 11:29am

Death toll to 15.

meoklmrk91 · 20-07-2012 11:29am

15 confirmed dead now.

kfallon · 20-07-2012 11:31am

old hippy wrote: »

Ah, some good old fashioned Old Testament style vengeance and retribution to satisfy your blood lust and feelings of helplesness over the tragedy.

Yep, that's surely the only way to progress to a better society. Or continue a cycle of violence.

FYI....I do not and have never read the bible!

So what's your solution then?

Duggy747 · 20-07-2012 11:31am

Some dumbass on the NBC news prank called them pretending to be the chief of police.

Went on to say the gunman was angry because he was voted of America's Got Talent. Tasteless.

old hippy · 20-07-2012 11:32am

carbon nanotube wrote: »

I have plenty empathy, see my post on Mauritius..

But America and guns.. meh, just seems normal for them. And half of Americas are thick as syrup.

You have only to read crap on the web about them to put 2+2 together.

As long as kids can take guns into McDonalds over there this won't be the last shooting in our lifetime in the states

Ever met any Americans? Ever been there? Read any of their great writers?

The gun laws are, in my view, wrong and need severe tightening up but generalising about Americans does not make for a great argument. And I'd trust other reportage than, as you put it, "crap on the web".

seamus · 20-07-2012 11:33am

kfallon wrote: »

He's dead, he no longer exists, I'm not sure there's a worse punishment than that. Also if you lock him up then in a roundabout way the people affected by their loved ones being murdered are actually contributing (thru tax) to put a roof over his head and three square meals a day in front of him!

And why waste resources torturing him every day?

I can certainly think of a few worse punishments than death. Would you prefer to spend the rest of your life locked in a small room and wandering around the same building every day, before dying. Or would you prefer to just get the dying bit over with now?

I don't believe the death penalty is a good solution in any case, however I would like to see those on life sentences given the option of committing suicide.

smash · 20-07-2012 11:33am

Duggy747 wrote: »

Some dumbass on the NBC news prank called them pretending to be the chief of police.

Went on to say the gunman was angry because he was voted of America's Got Talent. Tasteless.

I heard that, but he said the 15th victim was in an angry state because he was voted off America's Got Talent, not the gunman. And said something about Howard Stern too.

PizzamanIRL · 20-07-2012 11:33am

After talking about the 6 year old on 9news,"Some people complaining about children being at the theatre, Batman is a fun series and is rated PG13."

old hippy · 20-07-2012 11:34am

kfallon wrote: »

FYI....I do not and have never read the bible!

So what's your solution then?

Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?

danniemcq · 20-07-2012 11:36am

just heard on the Police Scanner that there are drunk people fighting in the area.

FFS

kfallon · 20-07-2012 11:36am

old hippy wrote: »

Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?

Again, your solution to the problem?

I am pie · 20-07-2012 11:37am

old hippy wrote: »

Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?

Lock him up, forever. Let him be forced to consider what he has done for the rest of his waking life. In a very unforgiving uncomfortable environment.

10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

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