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10 shot dead at Batman showing in Denver

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58,456 ✭✭✭✭ibarelycare


    Someone on Reddit has posted about being there.
    Boyfriend and I have evacuated safe and sound. The shooting began during a gunfight scene in the movie, and at first, we thought it was special effects when smoke rose up. When shots happened again and people began to run, we thought something was up. A guy ran in and shouted there was a gunman in the building, and the alarms to emergency evacuate started to go off.
    I now know what tear gas feels like. I've never had to 'get down' with a police officer screaming at us. This is the most ****ed up night of my short life. I need an army of kitten photos stat.
    [1] http://whotalking.com/Century+16
    [Edit] Thank you for the well wishes everyone. Heart is still racing, especially reading up on it still. Apparently, not long after we evacuated the premises, an explosion went off, and the death toll has risen to 12, with 20 more injured: [2] http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/365147/20120720/aurora-dark-knight-rises-batman-colorado-shooting.htm

    Thread


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭Lumbo


    Any word on the gunman(men)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Probably dressed up as Bane carrying a rucksack. Other people had dressed up for it so he thought nobody would look twice at him as he prepped there and then at the cinema.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    Death Sentence is still on the books in Colorado, although very rarely used. It would be a shame to use it here. I can't help but think this particular murderer should be given a lifetime to reflect on his actions in a very small cell.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    Lumbo wrote: »
    Any word on the gunman(men)?

    Early 20's, in custody.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,205 ✭✭✭Bad Panda


    Lumbo wrote: »
    Any word on the gunman(men)?

    One guy. They have him in custody and are searching his apartment - they've ordered the whole building be evacuated incase of explosives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Probably dressed up as Bane carrying a rucksack. Other people had dressed up for it so he thought nobody would look twice at him as he prepped there and then at the cinema.

    One account said the gunman opened an emergency door, threw in some type of smoke/gas grenade and then began shooting.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Shootings in the USA..

    Yawnnnnn.

    Using any excuse to bash the USA...

    Yawnnn.

    I agree that there are fundamental problems within US culture but every country has their achilles heel, so to speak. Perhaps US bashing could take a break just for one day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    While the free availability of military weaponry (tear gas and automatic weapons FFS) is definitely an issue in the U.S., I don't think that incidents like this can be blamed on such.

    Fncked up people exist. And sometimes fncked up people do fncked up things. If the U.S. gun laws were tighter, this guy would still have walked in carrying two pistols and shot up the place. OK, the casualities may have been slightly less, but I don't think that it would be any less shocking.

    The USA is a big place. 300 million people. So every so often you get a messed up incident like this. It has nothing to do with gun laws or with Americans. With a population that size, you inevitably get a fncked up incident every now and again. Europe has a similar population, and occassionally we have an Anders Breivik or a Cumbrian tax driver come out of the woodwork.

    This is not an issue of culture or attitude. It's just one of those things that happens.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    ****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    Aurora is a suburb of Denver near the scene of the 1999 Columbine High School shooting, in which 13 people were shot dead and another 24 were wounded.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭demakinz


    This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    demakinz wrote: »
    This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.

    And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 172 ✭✭kevmol88


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    ****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.

    Children are reportedly among those shot.

    One person at the theatre who spoke to local television station 9News described what he heard a fellow witness tell her boyfriend:
    "The really messed up part for me is that she said she saw bullet holes in the little girl's back."

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    meoklmrk91 wrote: »
    ****ing hell this is just so sad, does anyone have a source on the reports that the baby was shot, haven't been able to fine anything, I just hope it's not true.

    2 witnesses reporting it on the news

    http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    kevmol88 wrote: »
    Children are reportedly among those shot.

    One person at the theatre who spoke to local television station 9News described what he heard a fellow witness tell her boyfriend:
    "The really messed up part for me is that she said she saw bullet holes in the little girl's back."

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-07-20/live-blog-aurora-shooting/4144558
    Dave! wrote: »
    2 witnesses reporting it on the news

    http://www.9news.com/video/9newsonline.aspx

    Was just watching it there, when they mentioned it my heart just sank, just so sad :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    Is this another rabid Christoper Nolan fan who couldn't handle the fact the new movie is getting a load of cr&ppy reviews?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    old hippy wrote: »
    demakinz wrote: »
    This is beyond horrific, What makes a person kill at random,it must be horrifying for the people to go through something like that seeing the things that they saw. It only takes one crazy bastard to ruin countless lives. surely he will get the death penalty.

    And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

    It'll solve that **** being alive.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    old hippy wrote: »
    And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

    The death penalty isn't a solution, it's considered a result.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,032 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Is this another rabid Christoper Nolan fan who couldn't handle the fact the new movie is getting a load of cr&ppy reviews?
    Stop... just stop!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    old hippy wrote: »
    And what will the death penalty solve, exactly?

    An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420


    Wonder if it had anything to do with Swedish House Mafia on the soundtrack:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 998 ✭✭✭dharma200


    I know this is in after hours but cop the fcuk on.. wtf is wrong with some people


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    kfallon wrote: »
    An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?
    You still haven't explained what killing him solves though. Surely if the goal is punish him, then torture would be preferable? If you kill him, he's gone. There's no heaven or hell, the guy won't "pay" for what he's done, because he'll be dead.


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,037 ✭✭✭paddyandy


    The Cinema has followed us home and is outside our homes every night .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭Laika1986


    Sky news now showing a bomb disposal robot at a car in the shopping mall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,032 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    6 victims in a local Children's Hospital.. the youngest victim is 6 years old!

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Youngest wounded victim brought to hospital is 6 according to reports.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    paddyandy wrote: »
    The Cinema has followed us home and is outside our homes every night .

    I thought I was the only person being stalked by buildings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    It's causing the film to be mentioned a lot in the news. Brings a different meaning to guerrilla marketing

    It's been done. Made quite a few people unhappy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    9News just reported that the youngest victim brought to the childrens hospital because of a bullet wound is 6:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭SocSocPol


    Just another horrific massace in a country that consider the right of every lunatic to have a gun to be more sacred than the right of people not to be gunned down.
    RIP to the dead, when will the USA wake up to the need for real gun control?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    seamus wrote: »
    You still haven't explained what killing him solves though. Surely if the goal is punish him, then torture would be preferable? If you kill him, he's gone. There's no heaven or hell, the guy won't "pay" for what he's done, because he'll be dead.

    He's dead, he no longer exists, I'm not sure there's a worse punishment than that. Also if you lock him up then in a roundabout way the people affected by their loved ones being murdered are actually contributing (thru tax) to put a roof over his head and three square meals a day in front of him!

    And why waste resources torturing him every day?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 994 ✭✭✭carbon nanotube


    Shootings in the USA..

    Yawnnnnn.

    I feel sad for you that you can't empathise as a human being.


    Really, I do.


    I have plenty empathy, see my post on Mauritius..

    But America and guns.. meh, just seems normal for them. And half of Americas are thick as syrup.

    You have only to read crap on the web about them to put 2+2 together.

    As long as kids can take guns into McDonalds over there this won't be the last shooting in our lifetime in the states


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    The news have said they keep hearing about a baby but there are no confirmed reports on that. It's possible that people referred to the 6yr old as the baby.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    humanji wrote: »
    This is not the place to discuss what constitutes comedy. And this is neither the time or place for jokes. Stick to the topic.

    Fair warning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    kfallon wrote: »
    An eye for an eye? I mean these guys decided to play God and took many innocent lives. Why should they be allowed to live providing they are apprehended and found guilty beyond reasonable doubt?

    Ah, some good old fashioned Old Testament style vengeance and retribution to satisfy your blood lust and feelings of helplesness over the tragedy.

    Yep, that's surely the only way to progress to a better society. Or continue a cycle of violence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Death toll to 15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭meoklmrk91


    15 confirmed dead now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    old hippy wrote: »
    Ah, some good old fashioned Old Testament style vengeance and retribution to satisfy your blood lust and feelings of helplesness over the tragedy.

    Yep, that's surely the only way to progress to a better society. Or continue a cycle of violence.

    FYI....I do not and have never read the bible!

    So what's your solution then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Some dumbass on the NBC news prank called them pretending to be the chief of police.

    Went on to say the gunman was angry because he was voted of America's Got Talent. Tasteless.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    I have plenty empathy, see my post on Mauritius..

    But America and guns.. meh, just seems normal for them. And half of Americas are thick as syrup.

    You have only to read crap on the web about them to put 2+2 together.

    As long as kids can take guns into McDonalds over there this won't be the last shooting in our lifetime in the states

    Ever met any Americans? Ever been there? Read any of their great writers?

    The gun laws are, in my view, wrong and need severe tightening up but generalising about Americans does not make for a great argument. And I'd trust other reportage than, as you put it, "crap on the web".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    kfallon wrote: »
    He's dead, he no longer exists, I'm not sure there's a worse punishment than that. Also if you lock him up then in a roundabout way the people affected by their loved ones being murdered are actually contributing (thru tax) to put a roof over his head and three square meals a day in front of him!

    And why waste resources torturing him every day?
    I can certainly think of a few worse punishments than death. Would you prefer to spend the rest of your life locked in a small room and wandering around the same building every day, before dying. Or would you prefer to just get the dying bit over with now?

    I don't believe the death penalty is a good solution in any case, however I would like to see those on life sentences given the option of committing suicide.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Some dumbass on the NBC news prank called them pretending to be the chief of police.

    Went on to say the gunman was angry because he was voted of America's Got Talent. Tasteless.
    I heard that, but he said the 15th victim was in an angry state because he was voted off America's Got Talent, not the gunman. And said something about Howard Stern too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭PizzamanIRL


    After talking about the 6 year old on 9news,"Some people complaining about children being at the theatre, Batman is a fun series and is rated PG13." :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    kfallon wrote: »
    FYI....I do not and have never read the bible!

    So what's your solution then?

    Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

    And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,163 ✭✭✭✭danniemcq


    just heard on the Police Scanner that there are drunk people fighting in the area.

    FFS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    old hippy wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

    And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?

    Again, your solution to the problem?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,652 ✭✭✭I am pie


    old hippy wrote: »
    Doesn't matter whether you have or haven't read it. You are perpetuating a cycle of violence and bloodlust. You wish pain and violence of the perps.

    And you cannot see the irony over fantasising about violence - which is prob exactly what these perps were doing?

    Lock him up, forever. Let him be forced to consider what he has done for the rest of his waking life. In a very unforgiving uncomfortable environment.


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