Dr Ferrari's Camper Van (off-topic discussion)

Dermot Illogical · 01-05-2012 10:16pm

awec wrote: »

This isn't really off topic discussion (or maybe it is! ) but I don't think it warrants an entire thread.

I am cycling along the N11, on the cycle lane (for those that don't know it, the N11 for the most part is 3 lanes of traffic each direction and a central reservation with dedicated cycle lanes on each side of the road).

I want to turn right. What is the correct way to do this? The issue of course is getting across 3 lanes of traffic to the outside lane on a really busy road. For what it's worth, I believe the limit on the N11 is 60 in the bits I'm concerned with, so traffic is pretty fast moving (I think it goes up to 100 in parts? ).

Are you even able to turn right? :pac:

Sort of new to cycling and this has me curious, thankfully I haven't encountered this situation yet (as luck would have it I've always been turning left off the N11). Don't want to get flattened!

If there's a right, you'll need to get some speed up and indicate. Then go for it one lane at a time while watching traffic coming from behind. Be very clear in your signals.
If traffic moves too fast for all that you could go for a box turn. Basically this involves keeping left and joining with traffic entering the road from the left while they're waiting at their lights.

awec · 01-05-2012 10:24pm

RT66 wrote: »

If there's a right, you'll need to get some speed up and indicate. Then go for it one lane at a time while watching traffic coming from behind. Be very clear in your signals.
If traffic moves too fast for all that you could go for a box turn. Basically this involves keeping left and joining with traffic entering the road from the left while they're waiting at their lights.

Do you mean as I'm going along, waiting for the straight ahead lights to turn green and then instead of going straight ahead just go the 20 or 30 yards and pull in to the left in front of the cars at the lights on the left hand side, waiting to cross the road?

That's ok to do?

Dermot Illogical · 01-05-2012 10:27pm

awec wrote: »

Do you mean as I'm going along, waiting for the straight ahead lights to turn green and then instead of going straight ahead just go the 20 or 30 yards and pull in to the left in front of the cars at the lights on the left hand side, waiting to cross the road?

That's ok to do?

Yes, and yes. On very fast roads it can be your only safe option.

awec · 01-05-2012 10:31pm

Thanks, that'll work perfect on cross roads and for right turns where there is no corresponding left I'll just cycle on to the next left turn and do the U-turn job!

Cheers guys!

Chips Lovell · 02-05-2012 1:45am

Read this:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/iljo-keisse-from-tragedies-to-triumph

furiousox · 02-05-2012 7:52am

Ordered a chain catcher from canyon on the 23/4.
Received an email this morning saying my order has been processed and will ship in 48 hrs!
What are they doing, making them one at a time? :mad:

Mycroft H · 02-05-2012 1:11pm

buffalo · 02-05-2012 2:33pm

From http://www.dublincycling.ie/, new RSA video.

Rofo · 02-05-2012 3:20pm

That ad hits just the right tone. It's not hysterical and might make people think more about other road users. Hopefully it'll get a lot of airplay.

Lumen · 02-05-2012 3:46pm

Rofo wrote: »

That ad hits just the right tone. It's not hysterical and might make people think more about other road users. Hopefully it'll get a lot of airplay.

True, but it's hardly selling cycling as something pleasant.

"Take your bike to work, you'll end up bedraggled and high on death-dodging adrenaline".

The RSA's glass is perpetually empty. I bet their after-work parties are great craic.

Jawgap · 02-05-2012 3:55pm

Thank God she was wearing hi-viz or she'd be dead........

incidentally what was casting call for this "one normally looking girl and 2 gormless looking men required for TV ad / girl must have own hi-viz......"

Chips Lovell · 02-05-2012 4:03pm

Lumen wrote: »

True, but it's hardly selling cycling as something pleasant.

"Take your bike to work, you'll end up bedraggled and high on death-dodging adrenaline".

The RSA's glass is perpetually empty. I bet their after-work parties are great craic.

I dunno. One the one hand it's nice to see the RSA do something actually addresses those who cause accidents rather than those who are the victims of them (e.g. cyclists please wear hi-viz etc. etc.)

On the other, sometimes I wonder if these ads try too hard to tug on the emotions, which can sometimes have the opposite effect.

After witnessing the general ignorance non-cyclists can have about cyclists, first on After Hours and later on Politics, this week, I'd like to see an old-school, instructional ad, narrated by a man with a 1950's BBC voice informing motorists on how to drive near cyclists.

And for good measure, I'd like a similar ad instructing cyclists on how to cycle their bloody bikes properly.

Lumen · 02-05-2012 4:05pm

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I'd like to see an old-school, instructional ad, narrated by a man with a 1950's BBC voice informing motorists on how to drive near cyclists.

And for good measure, I'd like a similar ad instructing cyclists on how to cycle their bloody bikes properly.

http://www.nzonscreen.com/title/monkey-tale-1952

Chips Lovell · 02-05-2012 4:07pm

Yes! If that man is still alive I want him as the voiceover.

Junior · 02-05-2012 4:08pm

How hard is it sometimes for people to actually tell you what the f*ckin problem is, so you don't have to spend half an hour fannying around trying to replicate their stupidity.

AstraMonti · 02-05-2012 4:17pm

Rofo · 02-05-2012 4:34pm

Lumen wrote: »

True, but it's hardly selling cycling as something pleasant.

"Take your bike to work, you'll end up bedraggled and high on death-dodging adrenaline".

The RSA's glass is perpetually empty. I bet their after-work parties are great craic.

I'm not well versed on the RSA at all, but I imagine 'selling cycling as something pleasant' comes way down the priority list. Safety is in the name and I'm guessing they are just prioritising their goal of protecting road users. I hope they do it using the most effective means possible, whatever that may be. We all need other road users to stop scaring the bejesus out of us (and worse) when we're cycling. I've had several close calls in the last couple of months and I don't even commute.

Lumen · 02-05-2012 4:39pm

Rofo wrote: »

I'm not well versed on the RSA at all, but I imagine 'selling cycling as something pleasant' comes way down the priority list. Safety is in the name and I'm guessing they are just prioritising their goal of protecting road users. I hope they do it using the most effective means possible, whatever that may be. We all need other road users to stop scaring the bejesus out of us (and worse) when we're cycling. I've had several close calls in the last couple of months and I don't even commute.

Many more deaths are caused by lack of exercise than by people being killed whilst exercising.

Rofo · 02-05-2012 4:49pm

Lumen wrote: »

Many more deaths are caused by lack of exercise than by people being killed whilst exercising.

No argument there, but that doesn't mean the road safety message should be diluted. It's the RSA's job to do what they can to promote road safety.

This may very well be a dumb question but - Is there an authority whose job is it to promote cycling as a healthy & enjoyable sport, pastime & means of transport? I haven't a clue whose responsibility that is (if anyone's).
Dept of Health, Environment or Transport? Cycling Ireland? I don't remember ever seeing any public-servicey-type communication actually promoting cycling.

manwithaplan · 02-05-2012 4:53pm

Rofo wrote: »

I've had several close calls in the last couple of months and I don't even commute.

Lots of people say this kind of thing and it doesn't tally with my experience at all. I cycle every day and nothing remarkable seems to happen.

I must buy a helmet cam. Those guys seem to have all the fun.

Rofo · 02-05-2012 4:57pm

manwithaplan wrote: »

Lots of people say this kind of thing and it doesn't tally with my experience at all. I cycle every day and nothing remarkable seems to happen.

It happens in fits & starts for me anyway. Nothing will happen for ages, then twice on the same ride, some dopey fkers will try their very best to kill me :pac:

Lumen · 02-05-2012 5:15pm

Rofo wrote: »

No argument there, but that doesn't mean the road safety message should be diluted. It's the RSA's job to do what they can to promote road safety.

That is arguably a sub-optimisation problem, like with helmets.

The RSAs job is to improve road safety, but this carries the assumption that their activities don't increase deaths from other causes in the process.

If their campaigns cause an overall negative effect then they are worse than useless.

petethedrummer · 02-05-2012 5:57pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxOt81VGoOQ

Rofo · 02-05-2012 6:12pm

Lumen wrote: »

That is arguably a sub-optimisation problem, like with helmets.

The RSAs job is to improve road safety, but this carries the assumption that their activities don't increase deaths from other causes in the process.

If their campaigns cause an overall negative effect then they are worse than useless.

Sub-optimisation problems are just the worst.

It's difficult to imagine any depiction of careless road users on the RSA's part being more positive and still having the type of impact required to stay with people for longer than 90 seconds. If there was a two-pronged approach with the Dept of Health (I have decided it should be them, I'm sure they'll do a terrific job) doing the positive promotion, well then, problem solved.

Darkglasses · 02-05-2012 6:34pm

manwithaplan wrote: »

Lots of people say this kind of thing and it doesn't tally with my experience at all. I cycle every day and nothing remarkable seems to happen.

I must buy a helmet cam. Those guys seem to have all the fun.

Rainy days increase the chances of something dramatic I think.

If all else fails, just re-focus and zoom your camera so it looks like every car is going up your nose, shout alot more, and post-production some squealing brakes into the sound.

tomasrojo · 02-05-2012 8:04pm

Darkglasses wrote: »

Rainy days increase the chances of something dramatic I think.

If all else fails, just re-focus and zoom your camera so it looks like every car is going up your nose, shout alot more, and post-production some squealing brakes into the sound.

Reminds me of my surprise that sound engineers drop in prepared sounds of galloping hooves into televised horse racing, and the sound of oars in water into televised rowing. Apparently the real audio contains too much extraneous, non-evocative sound.

Mentioned in this podcast:
http://99percentinvisible.org/post/11383184222/episode-38-the-sound-of-sport

bcmf · 02-05-2012 8:30pm

Was my sons confirmation today.
There were a couple of kids form the 'My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding' type of family.
To say the clothes both the child and their sponsor wore was simply disgraceful and I am by no means a prude.
But to say they were dressed like low grade hookers is not understating it.
But I had to laugh at the aul one in front of when they were going up to the altar
She blessed herself and mouthed 'Jesus,Mary and Holy Saint Joseph'

Mycroft H · 02-05-2012 9:14pm

Accidently bought an "Inferno" spicy piazza by accident in Lidl. Bloody heck, its hotter then any pizza I've ever eaten. Milk necessary!

Half an hour later and my mouth is still burning.

Darkglasses · 02-05-2012 10:02pm

BX 19 wrote: »

Accidently bought an "Inferno" spicy piazza by accident in Lidl. Bloody heck, its hotter then any pizza I've ever eaten. Milk necessary!

Half an hour later and my mouth is still burning.

Excellent pizza if that's what you're into!

buffalo · 03-05-2012 8:39am

When I walk into work, the amount of cyclists on the footpad infuriates me. Especially the ones who take the corner at North Strand Rd/Seville Place at speed. I'm tempted to wait the other side with a big spike. Then when I cycle in, like this morning, the amount of bloody stupid things done by cyclists still makes me angry. I think I'm anti-cyclist.

Also, I think I've found a runner for most unnecessary piece of cycling infrastructure in Ireland: http://g.co/maps/3kpzz And it's probably what encourages so many people to mount the footpath, but then not leave it when the "cycle track" ends.

*sigh* okay, that's all the frustration out of the system for now. Carry on, nothing to see here!

Chips Lovell · 03-05-2012 9:05am

buffalo wrote: »

When I walk into work, the amount of cyclists on the footpad infuriates me.

I found myself arguing yesterday in After Hours with someone who said the roads were too dangerous to cycle on and that he always cycled on either the footpath or off-road cycle tracks. On a thread full of anti-cyclist vitriol he failed to see the problem with it.

Captain Havoc · 03-05-2012 9:06am

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I found myself arguing yesterday in After Hours with someone who said the roads were too dangerous to cycle on and that he always cycled on either the footpath or off-road cycle tracks. On a thread full of anti-cyclist vitriol he failed to see the problem with it.

Wow, is that thread still going?

Jawgap · 03-05-2012 9:38am

Yes, it's still there, including this gem from @stiffler2.....

"cyclists cycling a breast is what's wrong, isn't that clear...."

aren't there just being t1ts if they do that:D

Mycroft H · 03-05-2012 10:40am

Darkglasses wrote: »

Excellent pizza if that's what you're into!

Ohh god. Never again. I had no milk left for my bloody cereal this morning after that.

Anyone see Invictus last night on RTE? Great film I thought. I was meant to be studying.

Holyboy · 03-05-2012 11:32am

Untill yesterday I thought I had seen most things people could mess up on a bike but this was a new one to me, a British threaded BB fitted backwards, how is that even possible!!! Not to mention the shell looked like it had been faced with a hammer, sweet baby Jesus.

Dubba · 03-05-2012 12:09pm

Do people put on their Cycling Ireland back numbers for club league races?

lennymc · 03-05-2012 12:11pm

Dubba wrote: »

Do people put on their Cycling Ireland back numbers for club league races?

i do. only started racing recently tho so could be completely fred.

Lumen · 03-05-2012 12:18pm

Dubba wrote: »

Do people put on their Cycling Ireland back numbers for club league races?

Not in the LOUTI league, unless I've not been paying attention.

CramCycle · 03-05-2012 12:21pm

AFAIK not in club races because the guys at the end know who is crossing the line, hide it under your jersey and then follow the lead of others who are there.

Dubba · 03-05-2012 12:21pm

Lumen wrote: »

Not in the LOUTI league, unless I've not been paying attention.

Call me confused, I'm from Cork like, you confusing me with someone else? The St Finbarrs Summer League is what I'll be attending tonight. Think I'll just leave the numbers at home and bring the CI card instead.

Sorry Lumen I read "I've not been paying attention" as "you've not been paying attention"

Lumen · 03-05-2012 12:31pm

Dubba wrote: »

Sorry Lumen I read "I've not been paying attention" as "you've not been paying attention"

Pay attention!

AstraMonti · 03-05-2012 12:43pm

http://twitter.com/#!/cervelo

Looks like a new track version? But what's that cutout on the chainstay?

(sorry beasty, still don't like it

)

Rofo · 03-05-2012 1:32pm

AstraMonti wrote: »

http://twitter.com/#!/cervelo

Looks like a new track version? But what's that cutout on the chainstay?

(sorry beasty, still don't like it )

Don't think it's a track version as there seems to be a derailleur hanger. The cutout might be for battery storage?

Rofo · 03-05-2012 1:52pm

@AstraMonti here's the answer:

Lumen · 03-05-2012 2:04pm

Hmmm, Cervelo hybrid. Didn't we see that just the other day? :pac:

Rofo · 03-05-2012 3:24pm

ednwireland · 03-05-2012 3:42pm

03/05/2012 15:00 20.7 °C 57 % 1016.9 hPa 0.0 mm 0.8 km/h

AstraMonti · 03-05-2012 3:50pm

ednwireland wrote: »

03/05/2012 15:00 20.7 °C 57 % 1016.9 hPa 0.0 mm 0.8 km/h

which country?

Junior · 03-05-2012 4:06pm

Dubba wrote: »

Do people put on their Cycling Ireland back numbers for club league races?

Nope.

Darkglasses · 03-05-2012 7:17pm

Just back from trying to teach my friend to cycle...It was fun, but it sure is painful trying to catch a guy who's heavier than you

Dr Ferrari's Camper Van (off-topic discussion)

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