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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,810 ✭✭✭Mr Velo


    ads20101 wrote: »
    I know, it sounds a bit cheeky doesn't it.

    Essentially, yes!

    Nice! I just might try the same ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 541 ✭✭✭mejulie805


    Well I clearly missed the memo about my own music. I now have access to nothing, including the 13GB of music I've put on my phone myself. Whether I made a mistake or not that is the most ludicrous thing I have ever seen I have no idea why it is even a function. F%$k apple, not only am I not continuing with the Music sub, I'm hightailing it to Android ASAP where they don't treat their users like idiots...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 699 ✭✭✭Rorok


    Taylor swift isn't on spotify, kind of a game changer for me :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,296 ✭✭✭✭gimmick


    My sub expured the other day. I have not renewed just yet.

    Question I have is - I usually have a few saved songs which I drag across from my laptop to my iphone 6 music library. I usually update this once a month or so, but have not done so for 4-5 months at this stage.

    Has something changed? I have deleted the music from my device, but when I plug the phone into my laptop, the songs are still showing in itunes and I cannot delete them. Nor can I drag my music across like I used to do so frequently and easily in the past.

    Anyone any ideas?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,649 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Has people's experience with Apple Music improved since the posts some months ago? Still using Spotify myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    faceman wrote: »
    Has people's experience with Apple Music improved since the posts some months ago? Still using Spotify myself.

    I've found things to be much better now, I had a lot of bugs and weird things happenening at the start but now I haven't had one in a while. I'm listening to a lot more music because of it, and I'm still paying after the three month trial.

    Seems to be definitely improved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,326 ✭✭✭Zapp Brannigan


    Still not as good as Spotify. I still get random pauses regardless if I'm streaming or listening to my own music.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    faceman wrote: »
    Has people's experience with Apple Music improved since the posts some months ago? Still using Spotify myself.

    i have moved from spotify , i love the playlists on apple music


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The service itself has been fine for me but iTunes is still very buggy. I really thought we'd see massive improvements in both iTunes and the iOS Music app by now, but nope, it seems Apple pulled most of the engineers off both as soon as Apple Music launched.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭ads20101


    The service itself has been fine for me but iTunes is still very buggy. I really thought we'd see massive improvements in both iTunes and the iOS Music app by now, but nope, it seems Apple pulled most of the engineers off both as soon as Apple Music launched.

    Thats good to hear.

    I was so disappointed with the 3 month trial and ended up resubscribing to spotify. As I have said before, I naturally steer towards apple so if this really has got better (and I will need a fair few more +ve reviews) I will give it another go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    Didn't want to make a new post but admins feel free to separate.

    I've been experiencing horrible errors in the last few days with lots of music greyed out, and even stuff I bought from iTunes a while back not playing. I get an error message "looks like this item is no longer available" on seemingly random songs. Anyone else experiencing this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    seems to be a bug in the system since yesterday , ive had to reset my phone twice to play tunes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    Yep, apparently there was a server error yesterday. Should be cleared up now but restart your phone anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Zcott wrote: »
    Yep, apparently there was a server error yesterday. Should be cleared up now but restart your phone anyway.

    i restarted and still the same so i signed out of music then restarted signed back in and all good so far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    Major bug with iOS devices today , Apple musc search function not working


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    I see that students will now be able to subscribe to Apple Music for €5 a month. Good value if you can get it I think.

    http://www.macrumors.com/2016/05/06/apple-music-student-membership-50-discount/


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The student discount is live now. You can do it on via iOS or iTunes. Go to your Apple ID > Manage Subscriptions > Apple Music and change your subscription to student.

    It verifies through UNiDAYS and is valid for one year. After that you have to re-verify your student status for another year, etc.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    9to5Mac reports that Apple Music will getting a UI revamp at WWDC, including the demotion of Connect. We already knew that Apple were working on iTunes but it seems they are changing the iOS Music app as well.

    While I don't hate the current Music app UI, it could certainly be better. Some of my current annoyances:

    - The way search is accessible from all of the tabs instead of being its own tab. It feels like I'm in Safari. When I tap on My Music or Playlists I want to go there, not to whatever search results I was previously looking at.
    - The way search results are split into Apple Music and My Music tabs - I'm tired of all the tapping, just integrate them please.
    - The way the display activates when you adjust the volume using the headphone controls. While this has been around for several versions of iOS, it's extremely dumb and is a potentially major drain on battery life depending on how often to adjust the volume on your commute. My phone is in my pocket, I'm using the headphone controls, there's no reason for the display to be on!
    - The grey text for album/artist info on the lock-screen is practically indecipherable. I usually have to hold the phone up to my face to make it out.

    I'm sure I'll think of more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    Tried switching to the student tier and was told my institution wasn't included. Strange one, it's one of the bigger Irish colleges.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I guess it hasn't signed up to UNiDAYS's scheme. Is it on Campus.ie?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    DubDJ wrote: »
    Tried switching to the student tier and was told my institution wasn't included. Strange one, it's one of the bigger Irish colleges.

    I can't even try. The link is active for me now, after being not there all day, but it just takes me to the page to download iTunes, when I click on it from in iTunes!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I guess it hasn't signed up to UNiDAYS's scheme. Is it on Campus.ie?
    Yeah, it's listed on the unidays website too. Campus is no problem, used the student discount with campus before too. Just strange the Apple Music discount isn't eligible.
    chrislad wrote: »
    I can't even try. The link is active for me now, after being not there all day, but it just takes me to the page to download iTunes, when I click on it from in iTunes!
    Strange, I get a page to sign up to unidays. Or sign in using the link below it. Only started working late tonight though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 Catherine!


    I used the 3-month free trial of Apple Music from September to December last year. I liked having my music library integrated with my streaming tracks, but the main turn-off for me was the fact that when I had Apple Music switched on, I could no longer add tracks to my iPod Touch by ripping a CD.

    I have gone back to Spotify and sometimes use premium if they have a special offer going.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Catherine! wrote: »
    I used the 3-month free trial of Apple Music from September to December last year. I liked having my music library integrated with my streaming tracks, but the main turn-off for me was the fact that when I had Apple Music switched on, I could no longer add tracks to my iPod Touch by ripping a CD.

    If Apple Music is enabled in iTunes and on the iPod Touch this is very straight-forward. You rip the CD in iTunes, it automatically adds it to your iCloud Music Library. Then you can stream it or download it on your iPod Touch. No need to connect the Touch to iTunes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 293 ✭✭jackinthemix94


    Must admit, the fiver a month has tempted me to sign up. I might wait for the revamp though to definitely decide.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm not so sure the revamp is going to be that extensive anymore, at least if what Macrumors reports about iTunes is anything to go by. Sounds like damage control rather than a substantial rethinking of the interface. Unless they have bigger plans for iTunes down the road.

    Apple should bite the bullet and phase out Windows support since that's what's holding iTunes back. Windows users hate iTunes anyway. No reason to continue to punish Mac users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I'm not so sure the revamp is going to be that extensive anymore, at least if what Macrumors reports about iTunes is anything to go by. Sounds like damage control rather than a substantial rethinking of the interface. Unless they have bigger plans for iTunes down the road.

    Apple should bite the bullet and phase out Windows support since that's what's holding iTunes back. Windows users hate iTunes anyway. No reason to continue to punish Mac users.
    Doesn't make sense to discontinue it, it's still needed for certain cases like restoring devices etc. Can't just drop support for that many Windows uses.

    Makes more sense to maybe release a stand alone device manager, maybe the I could see iTunes being dropped for Windows. Still surprised they haven't split it out into different parts yet.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    They can't just drop Windows support on a dime, I agree, but they could start to phase it out. Leave Windows users with the current version and just release bug fixes. The Mac version probably have undergone a major upgrade years ago if not for Windows support. I mean, had iPhoto been a Windows app would Apple have been able to just scrap it and start from scratch with the new Photos app? Not a chance. They'd still be dithering over it like they are iTunes.

    I've become sceptical of the benefits of splitting iTunes into different apps. The music player/library, iTunes Store and Apple Music catalogue should all be integrated in the one app. Any proposed redesigns I've seen that have suggested splitting Apple Music and/or the iTunes Store into separate apps really aren't thinking the implications of that through. If there's a problem with iTunes at the moment, it's that these three things aren't integrated enough.

    They could take out the video player/library functionality and the device management, I guess, but I'm not convinced that either of those things are adding that much bloat to the app. And device management seems like something that will eventually be handled by iCloud anyway. It's already basically redundant for most users, except those with older devices or no WiFi.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,359 ✭✭✭DubDJ


    I'd just prefer an app that plays music, and not have apps tethered, as well as all the other features iTunes supports. A strategic rethinking of the whole app situation is needed by Apple imo. Mac, has few apps trying to do everything, iOS has separate apps for everything that can't be removed.
    In general I like Apple Music, I don't see the whole problem with the layout needing a redesign. It's working almost flawlessly for me now too. I agree with the connect tab being demoted though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    I don't really see the value in the student discount tbh considering Spotify is €5 by default through Vodafone and is arguably and much better service.

    I suppose if you'd rather have the integration of having everything Apple then it'd be a good choice.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Niemoj wrote: »
    I don't really see the value in the student discount tbh considering Spotify is €5 by default through Vodafone and is arguably and much better service.

    I suppose if you'd rather have the integration of having everything Apple then it'd be a good choice.

    Yeah but if you aren't with Vodafone and have an iPhone with a library of purchased and ripped music, Apple Music is the better option, teething issues aside.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    DubDJ wrote: »
    I'd just prefer an app that plays music, and not have apps tethered, as well as all the other features iTunes supports. A strategic rethinking of the whole app situation is needed by Apple imo. Mac, has few apps trying to do everything, iOS has separate apps for everything that can't be removed.
    In general I like Apple Music, I don't see the whole problem with the layout needing a redesign. It's working almost flawlessly for me now too. I agree with the connect tab being demoted though.

    Connect is awful and I don't know how anyone approved it.

    Apple's traditional problem with services (as per Steve) is that they didn't view services as being services. They viewed them as features. That's starting to change. The question is are they now viewing services as services or are they viewing them as ways of generating more money from their existing user base. Hopefully the former for our sake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭Albert_Camus


    Apple should bite the bullet and phase out Windows support since that's what's holding iTunes back. Windows users hate iTunes anyway. No reason to continue to punish Mac users.

    Why what's the story here, how is Windows holding iTunes back?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Why what's the story here, how is Windows holding iTunes back?

    Because it's a cross-platform app and anything they want to do to iTunes on the Mac they have to do for iTunes on Windows. So a ground-up re-write or splitting it into multiple apps becomes a much bigger deal and something that might not be practical with the Windows version. It's easier to just keep doing what they've been doing: give it a new dash of paint every other version and keep cramming features in, hence the bloat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭Albert_Camus


    Because it's a cross-platform app and anything they want to do to iTunes on the Mac they have to do for iTunes on Windows. So a ground-up re-write or splitting it into multiple apps becomes a much bigger deal and something that might not be practical with the Windows version. It's easier to just keep doing what they've been doing: give it a new dash of paint every other version and keep cramming features in, hence the bloat.

    I can't imagine thats the reason its rubbish :)

    What do they develop them in?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm speculating, of course. But turning iTunes into a suite of of apps doesn't seem particularly practical on Windows.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 301 ✭✭Albert_Camus


    I'm speculating, of course. But turning iTunes into a suite of of apps doesn't seem particularly practical on Windows.

    Ah it'd be fine.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    Yeah but if you aren't with Vodafone and have an iPhone with a library of purchased and ripped music, Apple Music is the better option, teething issues aside.

    It's not a big deal to sign up for Vodafone though, you just get a sim, sign up for the offer and top it up and you instantly save 50% on Spotify and unless the music you have is Taylor Swift or someone else not on Spotify then wouldn't your purchased music be there already?

    Having said that I think AM is good value in terms of family plans, that's something Spotify severely lacks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    Niemoj wrote: »
    Having said that I think AM is good value in terms of family plans, that's something Spotify severely lacks.

    Exactly this - the one reason I'd switch from Spotify to AM is the mad cost of family plans on Spotify for >2 people compared to AM. I wrote to Spotify who didn't care if I left or not. Reason I didn't switch is that AM doesn't support android tablets that the kids would be using. Annoying!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Niemoj


    BigMoose wrote: »
    Exactly this - the one reason I'd switch from Spotify to AM is the mad cost of family plans on Spotify for >2 people compared to AM. I wrote to Spotify who didn't care if I left or not. Reason I didn't switch is that AM doesn't support android tablets that the kids would be using. Annoying!

    So what are you using right now if I might ask?

    Even if you went through Vodafone which is undoubtedly a good offer it'd still cost €15 for 3 accounts compared to €15 for 6 through AM I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭BigMoose


    I'm paying 15 for Spotify for me and the wife, I'm too tight to pay for it for the 2 kids too! It's very annoying though that AM is the same price for 6. If they sort their android tablet support out I'd move.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    One thing I really miss about Spotify: being able to remotely control what music is playing on my Mac from another device. Very handy when you have wireless headphones. Apple's Remote app on iOS still hasn't been updated for Apple Music and is kind of crap anyway. I assume Apple is planning to integrate this remote functionality into iTunes and iOS's Music app at some point. Hopefully in the forthcoming update.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,324 ✭✭✭chrislad


    Finally got my Unidays set up, but I'm still having issues. The website still only opens the iTunes download page. Am I correct in assuming you need iTunes installed (I'm testing from a different PC, not my own at the moment)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    chrislad wrote: »
    Finally got my Unidays set up, but I'm still having issues. The website still only opens the iTunes download page. Am I correct in assuming you need iTunes installed (I'm testing from a different PC, not my own at the moment)

    Yes, because it puts you through to Apple Music. Also will work on an iOS device.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    Is this true or is something else at play?



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I don't have the patience to listen to that guy's Youtube diary. But I assume he's talking about what iMore have been writing about.

    These "Apple Music deleted my library" claims have been around since the service launched. At least 75 percent of them are due to user error. Basically the user matches their library with Apple Music and then deletes their local files. Don't ask me how. iMore suggest the people are confused by Apple's on-screen warnings and click the wrong button. Then they disable Apple Music and forget to re-enable it. This is what happened to Jim Dalrymple, though it took him quite a while to admit it. More recently it seems there's a database bug in the latest version of iTunes that actually can cause lost data, though I don't really understand the technicalities.

    iCloud Music Library is a buggy mess, however. Apple built it on the iTunes Match backend. iTunes Match was a paid-for beta service that never worked properly but Apple thought it was wonderful and made it the basis for Apple Music with disastrous results. Especially for former iTunes Match subscribers who let their subscriptions expire.

    My local files are intact but I have loads of tracks that are currently showing as "no longer available" in iCloud and won't upload either. Meaning I can see but not play them on anything but my main library. A lot of them are Neil Young or Radiohead. Young isn't available on Apple Music but is on the iTunes Store and my iTunes Match subscription recently expired and it seems iCloud Music Library doesn't know what to do. Radiohead recently switched their catalogue over to another label which resulted in everything being pulled and re-added to Apple Music. Once again iCloud Music Library doesn't know what to do and has decided the safest course of action is to do nothing. Silent failure - which is very common problem with Apple these days.

    I'm probably going to have to manually reset my iCloud Music Library, which is a big job since Apple no longer give you an option to do it. Probably because they are afraid what would happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,957 ✭✭✭FourFourRED


    Is this true or is something else at play?


    Yes.

    It would make sense for everyone to backup their entire music library before enabling iCloud music library on their iTunes PC/Mac for use with Apple Music.

    Previously ripped mp3's are now DRM protected after they are "matched" with the Apple Music catalogue.

    When Apple Music subscriptions ends. You can't play your music.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,680 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    FourFourFM wrote: »
    Previously ripped mp3's are now DRM protected after they are "matched" with the Apple Music catalogue.

    This should not happen unless your your local files were deleted, either deliberately, accidentally or by this recent iTunes database bug.

    I just checked and all my ripped files are intact and have not been DRM'd.

    Apple Music cannot DRM local files that were previously DRM-free.


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