Cork First Year Girls Filmed Tearing Each Other Apart Over a Guy

jamesjoyce1710 · 11-10-2012 10:35am

Abi wrote: »

Eh, no. Skangers fight.

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

Show Time · 11-10-2012 10:35am

lukesmom wrote: »

Perhaps I am bring sexist but I make no apologies for it. To see two women fighting is degrading and They should have more respect for themselves, at least this is what I will teach my daughter.
My sons on the otherhand I wouldn't mind as much. I don't like any kind of fighting that is not controlled inside a ring but if my boys fight it won't bother me as lads are built differently to girls. They have a lot of testosterone and lads normally beat the **** out of each other and it's done. But girls are a whole lot different. The emotional abuse that can happen can be very intense. Yeah I'm a hypocrite, sexist whatever you want to call me but as a mother of two boys and one girl this is how I feel. I know my husband feels the exact same way too.

How much would you mind if your lad came home all busted up and needing a trip to the hospital.
Would you just say it was the testosterones than.

gbee · 11-10-2012 10:36am

same Bat channel .... etc.

Crann na Beatha · 11-10-2012 10:43am

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Abi · 11-10-2012 10:46am

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

Abi wrote: »

Eh, no. Skangers fight.

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

Don't judge me by your own standards. Your caveman drivel is not going to justify why it's perfectly okay for two girls to wool the heads off each other. It's classless skangery at its best.

Madam_X · 11-10-2012 10:49am

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

Shur there's loads of stuff in our DNA, like gathering berries, having babies at 13. You're leaving out the tiny little element known as evolution; societal/cultural dismantling of what were once norms.
If it's so innate, how come plenty of people haven't fought and never wanted to?

gobnaitolunacy · 11-10-2012 10:55am

Madam_X wrote: »

If it's so innate, how come plenty of people haven't fought and never wanted to?

They're boring bastards.

Fight_Night · 11-10-2012 10:56am

Seen a lot worse.

Immaculate Pasta · 11-10-2012 10:57am

So it's 10:55am on a Thursday and I'm sat at my computer still in my pyjama pants. I'm supposed to be "job hunting" and instead I'm watching a video on the internet of two teenage girls from Cork fighting each other over some banal issue.

Immaculate Pasta, where did it all go wrong?

BillyMitchel · 11-10-2012 10:59am

up for anything wrote: »

BillyMitchel wrote: »

This happens everyday all over every secondary school in the world!!

No, it doesn't. :rolleyes:

Roll your little eyes all you like but slagging and fighting is part of school life and yes it's horribly focking cruel. From the most private schools to the poorest of schools. It mightn't of happened to you but it happens. Every day was probably a slight exaggeration in fairness.

Of course it's not nice, fair or good to see but the fact is it happens.

RikkFlair · 11-10-2012 11:00am

I muted the sound and instead used the audio from a David Attenborough narrated monkey fight.

HeyThereDeliah · 11-10-2012 11:02am

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

We might argue and shout but actually hitting out at each other is not in everyone's DNA. I would say walk away don't hit back.

say_who_now? · 11-10-2012 11:03am

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

Abi wrote: »

Eh, no. Skangers fight.

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

Evolution has meant that we are no longer the knuckle dragging savages we were back in the stone age. The one thing that separates humans from the animal kingdom is our ability to rationalise our behaviour. Animals are purely reactionary creatures, possessing no ability to think beyond their natural instincts.

You can make an excuse for children acting on instinct given their brains would not yet be developed enough to comprehend that sometimes their behaviour is unacceptable in a civilised society, but usually when they are of school going age they learn that it is unacceptable to resolve conflict by resorting to physical violence.

Scumbags choose to ignore what they've been taught (if they were ever taught it in the first place at all!) and instead choose to exhibit their self-proclaimed superiority by resorting to physical violence to resolve their conflict because they do not possess the mental intellect to understand that in the long run, such a defence mechanism (attack is the best defence) is simply a futile exercise- a short term resolution with very little reward for effort invested.

Larbre34 · 11-10-2012 11:09am

More water!

lukesmom · 11-10-2012 11:11am

Madam_X wrote: »

Princess Peach wrote: »

I'm also shocked that people here think this is normal behaviour and complaining that it's a bit too tame!

Are people complaining though? Think they're just saying they've seen worse - I have unfortunately. It doesn't happen in every school, no, but it's not unusual either sadly. I went to a convent school in the centre of Cork (was expecting its uniform in this vid tbh ) and it was rife, despite the "respectable" reputation (if waning) the school had.

lukesmom wrote: »

Perhaps I am bring sexist but I make no apologies for it. To see two women fighting is degrading and They should have more respect for themselves, at least this is what I will teach my daughter.
My sons on the otherhand I wouldn't mind as much. I don't like any kind of fighting that is not controlled inside a ring but if my boys fight it won't bother me as lads are built differently to girls. They have a lot of testosterone and lads normally beat the **** out of each other and it's done. But girls are a whole lot different. The emotional abuse that can happen can be very intense. Yeah I'm a hypocrite, sexist whatever you want to call me but as a mother of two boys and one girl this is how I feel. I know my husband feels the exact same way too.

Never mind sexism, I'm just surprised by you saying you wouldn't mind as much your sons being in fights. If I had kids I'd mind a whole lot if they were in fights, male or female.

If you read back I said I don't like any kind of fighting outside of a ring but I wouldn't mind my sons fighting as much as I would my daughter. Obviously I would prefer no fighting at all

BillyMitchel · 11-10-2012 11:11am

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

eh no, humans as animals, like any other animal on the planet fight we with each other, its in your DNA sorry to disappoint,

We might argue and shout but actually hitting out at each other is not in everyone's DNA. I have say walk away don't hit back.

Walking away and not sticking up for yourself could make it worse especially in a school. I agree it's horrible but you have to stand up for yourself.

Red21 · 11-10-2012 11:14am

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

of course it does, there was a fight evey couple of day in the school i went too (all boys), and the guys involved ranged from scummer to posh guys, its part of human nature to fight we are, at the end of the day, highly evolved animails no different to any other animal on the planet.

jamesjoyce1710 wrote: »

humans fight, its happened for thousands of years and will still happen in another 100 years, who does it bother you so much?

Humans have also been killing and raping for thousands of years, the good thing is that vast majority of humans find this activity disgusting so they try stamp it out. Likewise people will attempt to stamp out the behavior of the three teenagers in the clip and show them how foolish their behaviour is, if everyone had your attitude where would we be?

Hardonraging · 11-10-2012 11:15am

In fairness to the two girls, from an MMA perspective they both put down a good show, some fantastic technical holds from both, I'd have liked to have seen more throws perhaps, even a submission hold or two ...

Over all tho i'll give then a 6 /10 t'was a good fight, good entertainment, the crowd seemed to really enjoy it, i'm looking forward to watching niamh's career develop over the coming months ..

HeyThereDeliah · 11-10-2012 11:17am

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Walking away and not sticking up for yourself could make it worse especially in a school. I agree it's horrible but you have to stand up for yourself.

I agree you Have to stand up for yourself but violence is never the answer. I know kids in school can be teased/bullied and its hard not to fight back but some people will never lash out no matter what.

These girls are scrapping over a boy they think its cool now but in a few years time they will see how stupid they were to let others egg them on.

wildlifeboy · 11-10-2012 11:17am

any youtube links for this please?

Lustrum · 11-10-2012 11:19am

If you close your eyes you could imagine you were back in Croker watching the ladies football last week.

Except for the part where they say "hit her in the face"

HeyThereDeliah · 11-10-2012 11:19am

wildlifeboy wrote: »

any youtube links for this please?

You read the OP? The link is there.

Remmy · 11-10-2012 11:21am

Phoenix wrote: »

The kids were hardly tearing each other apart,jaysus OP keep it up one day you too will become the editor of the sun:eek:

Sure they were close to death so they was, tis terrible Joe.

Abi · 11-10-2012 11:22am

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Walking away and not sticking up for yourself could make it worse especially in a school. I agree it's horrible but you have to stand up for yourself.

It's the acceptance of it being a social norm by some that has me open mouthed here. If the principal of a school finds out that there has been a fight on the premises its a punishable offence. Why do you think that is? It's deemed socially unacceptable, thats why.

Taking the attitude into your adulthood that you resolve issues by knocking the head off someone else will wind up with you charged with assault or worse.

wildlifeboy · 11-10-2012 11:26am

its not that bad. a bit of hair pulling and a few slaps. i'd say the bloke feels deadly having them fight for his affections.

upandcumming · 11-10-2012 11:26am

How the **** anyone thinks its "Niamh" is beyond me... It's Nicole you deaf bastards!

BillyMitchel · 11-10-2012 11:27am

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Walking away and not sticking up for yourself could make it worse especially in a school. I agree it's horrible but you have to stand up for yourself.

I agree you Have to stand up for yourself but violence is never the answer. I know kids in school can be teased/bullied and its hard not to fight back but some people will never lash out no matter what.

These girls are scrapping over a boy they think its cool now but in a few years time they will see how stupid they were to let others egg them on.

It goes without saying that its a stupid thing to fight over but kids will be kids and they won't want to lose face and that's when things can turn violent.

As for lashing out. There was a kid in my year getting an awful time for about two years and one day he just snapped and started to really attack the guy who was always annoying him, completely busted his face open with a t-square. The kid had it coming and would even go a far as to say the teacher took his time coming over to stop it. Both got expelled which was completely unfair.

BraziliaNZ · 11-10-2012 11:35am

The first thing I thought was why is everyone wearing tracksuits? Was this after PE or something or are tracksuits really that prevalent in Ireland?

the keen edge · 11-10-2012 11:35am

Immaculate Pasta wrote: »

So it's 10:55am on a Thursday and I'm sat at my computer still in my pyjama pants. I'm supposed to be "job hunting" and instead I'm watching a video on the internet of two teenage girls from Cork fighting each other over some banal issue.

Immaculate Pasta, where did it all go wrong?

Well at least you seem to have quelled the urge to masturbating to these sort of videos; take comfort in the little victories my friend.

BillyMitchel · 11-10-2012 11:36am

Abi wrote: »

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Walking away and not sticking up for yourself could make it worse especially in a school. I agree it's horrible but you have to stand up for yourself.

It's the acceptance of it being a social norm by some that has me open mouthed here. If the principal of a school finds out that there has been a fight on the premises its a punishable offence. Why do you think that is? It's deemed socially unacceptable, thats why.

Taking the attitude into your adulthood that you resolve issues by knocking the head off someone else will wind up with you charged with assault or worse.

In school nah not a chance did I ever let people pick on me but adulthood I'd walk away unless it was extreme circumstances.

Abi but can you not turn that the other way, if you don't start to pick up for yourself from any early age then would you not take that attitude into adulthood and get walked all over in work, relationships and life in general?

hoodwinked · 11-10-2012 11:37am

coming from Cork and the south side i am not surprised

this kind of thing happens so often yet people and moreso parents refuse to believe their children are involved, even when their children are the instigators.

now we have Two Christ The King girls publicly tearing each other apart :eek: and all the criost ri lads standing around watching they all should be ashamed and suspended.

their faces are all there it shouldn't be too hard for the schools to find out who they are.

ziggy23 · 11-10-2012 11:38am

Worst punches ever! More strength in a budgie:eek:

Madam_X · 11-10-2012 11:39am

It being Cork and the southside is hardly relevant.

BraziliaNZ · 11-10-2012 11:40am

Nothing new here though. When I was in secondary school in the early 90s and fights would be arranged, thankfully I was never in any at school, the crowd that gathered would all spit at them while they're fighting, so you'd have 2 kids fighting covered in phlegm and saliva, and blood, while pummeling into each other. Real animalistic disgusting sh*t!

Cabaal · 11-10-2012 11:41am

Is it just me but are these people stupid,

When the girl who didn't start the fight parents see this they can use it as evidence against the girl that started the fight and rightly so!

Smart move guys, if you are going to fight don't be idiots and allow it to be recorded

Abi · 11-10-2012 11:45am

BillyMitchel wrote: »

Abi but can you not turn that the other way, if you don't start to pick up for yourself from any early age then would you not take that attitude into adulthood and get walked all over in work, relationships and life in general?

I see where you're coming from all right, but I never got into big brawls or anything as a teenager. You still wouldn't want to cross me in a job though, I'm verbal articulate, and I'm not afraid to speak up if something is bothering me. Its definitely not as a result of beating people up.

I know and understand that these things happen, I just don't think it should be deemed as socially acceptable. "bah, kids just being kids and all that" - just no =/

Green Diesel · 11-10-2012 11:50am

Of course it's not socially acceptable, but it's not exactly unusual. There were probably around 4-5 "scraps" like this each year when I was a boy, usually lads fighting, but the odd time a girl fight would break out. They never happen on school premises, but word spreads about it going to happen on the way home or whatever. Would be the talk of the school for the next few days, then forgotten.

Has happened forever, nothing unusual about it.

geeky · 11-10-2012 11:54am

Lustrum wrote: »

If you close your eyes you could imagine you were back in Croker watching the ladies football last week.

Except for the part where they say "hit her in the face"

you, sir, have clearly never been to Hill 16.

BillyMitchel · 11-10-2012 11:57am

No me either but at the same time maybe its because I never let it happen. I do remember busting the class bully's nose open because he made the whole class laugh saying I had girls hair (looking back he had a point)

If my kid got in a fight in school I'd accept it give him a slap on the wrist and the usual talk down but one thing I would not stand for is that girl recording and egging it on, I really think that is atrocious behavior. I would be so embarrassed as a parent if she was mine.

Abi wrote: »

You still wouldn't want to cross me in a job though, =/

I've seen you on boards and thats enough for me thank you very much!

meoklmrk91 · 11-10-2012 11:59am

Watching the video again like others have said it was the one little instigating bitch who started it all, she literally started it by pushing one girl into the other and walking away laughing. She clearly had it planned as she had someone already recording to get the whole thing. TBH I wouldn't like to find out that my daughter or my son was fighting, it's more socially acceptable for fellas but honestly I don't give a fiddlers either way, but if I found out that my child was the instigator who planned it out, started it all and took visible and audible enjoyment out of it I would be far, far more upset. Anyone can loose their temper in the moment, especially hormonal teens, those girls won't even remember what they were fighting about in a years time. But the other one was so clever in the way she went about what she did, I find it quite sinister.

Abi · 11-10-2012 12:02pm

Green Diesel wrote: »

Of course it's not socially acceptable, but it's not exactly unusual. There were probably around 4-5 "scraps" like this each year when I was a boy, usually lads fighting, but the odd time a girl fight would break out. They never happen on school premises, but word spreads about it going to happen on the way home or whatever. Would be the talk of the school for the next few days, then forgotten.

Has happened forever, nothing unusual about it.

I don't give a shít if I come across as a snitch, but if I heard through friends about a potential fight going to happen I'd head for the principals office. Somebody could get badly hurt, and I'd rather stop it before it starts at all.

BillyMitchel wrote: »

I've seen you on boards and thats enough for me thank you very much!

I'm a lovely person really

Blowfish · 11-10-2012 12:31pm

HeyThereDeliah wrote: »

I agree you Have to stand up for yourself but violence is never the answer. I know kids in school can be teased/bullied and its hard not to fight back but some people will never lash out no matter what.

Sorry, but that simply isn't true. I went to a pretty rough school. I avoided getting involved in any fights that I could, but the reality is that if you are jumped by 3/4 people, saying that you should 'just walk away' is simply bullshit.

cometogether · 11-10-2012 12:36pm

I hate seeing girls fight like that. Probably a bit sexist, but I do honestly believe that its worse when girls do it.

TheBoss! · 11-10-2012 1:02pm

wildlifeboy wrote: »

any youtube links for this please?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHYOXyy1ToI

John Mason · 11-10-2012 1:03pm

Oh Colm Hayes on 2Fm was just talking about this thread

he has also lumped Boards.ie in with AskFM

Awesomeness · 11-10-2012 1:20pm

The girl in purple did make a nice transistion from mount back to gaurd. Jiu jitsu skills!

geeky · 11-10-2012 1:32pm

Awesomeness wrote: »

The girl in purple did make a nice transistion from mount back to gaurd. Jiu jitsu skills!

Was thinking that. The Nicole girl has potential!

Defiler Of The Coffin · 11-10-2012 1:40pm

Can you do anything these days without some gobsh1te filming it on a camera phone? To me this would be more of a deterrent then all the 'socially unacceptable' malarkey some people in this thread are coming out with. Warhol would be laughing his head off at this

SusieBlue · 11-10-2012 2:30pm

To be honest, I've seen better fights between two pigeons for a crust of bread.

That's not really the point though, its disgusting behaviour and shocking to think that they thought that fighting it out was an accurate way of settling their differences. Its just not acceptable to resolve things like that.

I'd be disgraced if either of them were my child. Sad thing is, they're now famous amongst other teenagers their age in Cork and aren't gonna realise how idiotic what they did was until its too late, and they have a reputation for being scumbags.

gbee · 11-10-2012 2:47pm

WhiteRoses wrote: »

and they have a reputation for being scumbags.

The real problem is the reported cause of the fight, at least I got my black eye and broken nose from standing up to school bullies in my day, back in the 60's .. nothing so stupid for girls [at any age] to fight over a boy ????!Q1!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

Cork First Year Girls Filmed Tearing Each Other Apart Over a Guy

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