A YES vote for Lisbon is a YES vote for ushering in the New World Order.

Run_to_da_hills · 19-11-2008 6:50pm #1

A YES vote for Lisbon is a YES vote for ushering in the New World Order. :eek:

I thought I was time to start a new thread considering the Lisbon topic has spilled all over the Big Brother thread and swayed it off topic. I decided to carry it over to a new thread.

King Mob wrote: »

So then, no, you're not going to explain how the Lisbon Treaty will lead to everyone being mircochipped or how we would lose our neutrality like you claimed. Nor shown any evidence or reason to believe the vote was rigged were it was passed like you claim.

The Lisbon treaty is going to open the door to new global economic Governance that will eventually allow RFID microchipped identity cards replace cash completely in all our everyday financial transactions.

These cards will be used to monitor and ration products in relation to their carbon foot print and availibility. Restricted products such as alcohol and tobacco can be closely monitored at POS using their respective ETags.

If you buy a packet of smokes and they get into the hands of Minors the authorities can scan the pack with a RFID wand and trace them back to YOU!!, likewise with any other product or litter that contains RFID Powderchips can be tracked.

The ECU European Central Bank will eventually phase out the Euro cash and a time will come when it will no longer will be legal tender. All monetary decisions will come from Brussels and the Central Bank in Ireland will just be a puppet just like the Dail will be in a few years if we give in to this constitution.

King Mob · 19-11-2008 7:11pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I thought I was time to start a new thread considering the Lisbon topic has spilled all over the Big Brother thread and swayed it off topic. I decided to carry it over to a new thread.

The Lisbon treaty is going to open the door to new global economic Governance that will eventually allow RFID microchipped identity cards replace cash completely in all our everyday financial transactions.

These cards will be used to monitor and ration products in relation to their carbon foot print and availibility. Restricted products such as alcohol and tobacco can be closely monitored at POS using their respective ETags.

If you buy a packet of smokes and they get into the hands of Minors the authorities can scan the pack with a RFID wand and trace them back to YOU!!, likewise with any other product or litter that contains RFID Powderchips.

The ECU European Central Bank will eventually phase out the Euro cash and a time will come when it will no longer will be legal tender. All monetary decisions will come from Brussels and the Central Bank in Ireland will just be a puppet just like the Dail will be in a few years if we give in to this constitution.

And were exactly is that in the Lisbon Treaty?
Or can you point to an upcoming bill that would allow any of this?
Or are you assuming that it will because anything you don't understand or agree with is a NWO scheme and therefore lead to mircochips?

It is precisely because of misinformation and scaremongering that caused people to vote against the Lisbon treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2008#Reasons_for_rejection

Run_to_da_hills · 19-11-2008 7:26pm

King Mob wrote: »

And were exactly is that in the Lisbon Treaty?
Or can you point to an upcoming bill that would allow any of this?
Or are you assuming that it will because anything you don't understand or agree with is a NWO scheme and therefore lead to mircochips?

It is precisely because of misinformation and scaremongering that caused people to vote against the Lisbon treaty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-eighth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland_Bill,_2008#Reasons_for_rejection

You wont find it anywhere in the Lisbon treaty because its a conspiracy. :rolleyes:

Caoimhín · 19-11-2008 7:29pm

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Diogenes · 19-11-2008 7:37pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You wont find it anywhere in the Lisbon treaty because its a conspiracy. :rolleyes:

Ah so the treaty means that this is going to happen it just doesn't mention it?

I hear the Lisbon treaty will mean everyone in the country gets ice cream free once a week, and County Councillors will have to travel to work on unicycles with their underpants on their head. You won't find it anywhere in the treaty but thats what it means.

Hows that search for the clause were it takes away our neutrality, and and the one that subverts our constitution.?

Keith186 · 19-11-2008 7:38pm

I'm against Lisbon Treaty.

Where did you hear about these RFID tags?
Nothing got to do with Lisbon Treaty at all by any stretch of the imagination.

Cash is king and always will be.

There is no law against this technology at present and it could be incorporated into a LASER card for example, it's no biggie. Lisbon has nothing got to do with this nonsense.

RTDH if you are claiming that the Lisbon Treaty will allow the EU to prevent the use of cash as legal tender then you should state this and state why they would want to do this.

soloparadox · 19-11-2008 7:45pm

Keith186 wrote: »

I'm against Lisbon Treaty.

Where did you hear about these RFID tags?
Nothing got to do with Lisbon Treaty at all by any stretch of the imagination.

Cash is king and always will be.

There is no law against this technology at present and it could be incorporated into a LASER card for example, it's no biggie. Lisbon has nothing got to do with this nonsense.

RTDH if you are claiming that the Lisbon Treaty will allow the EU to prevent the use of cash as legal tender then you should state this and state why they would want to do this.

This, also throwing your eyes to heaven in disgust will not suffice...

Ciaran500 · 19-11-2008 8:20pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Restricted products such as alcohol and tobacco can be closely monitored at POS using their respective ETags.

If you buy a packet of smokes and they get into the hands of Minors the authorities can scan the pack with a RFID wand and trace them back to YOU!!, likewise with any other product or litter that contains RFID Powderchips can be tracked.

Doesn't sound that bad. I'd prefer this didn't happen but is this the worst an all powerful government can come up with?

Run_to_da_hills · 19-11-2008 8:23pm

Keith186 wrote: »

I'm against Lisbon Treaty.

Where did you hear about these RFID tags?
Nothing got to do with Lisbon Treaty at all by any stretch of the imagination.
.

European Union add promoting the use of RFID with the caption ."The Future begins now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1VKJUrxi4

Keith186 wrote: »

Cash is king and always will be.

There is no law against this technology at present and it could be incorporated into a LASER card for example, it's no biggie. Lisbon has nothing got to do with this nonsense.

RTDH if you are claiming that the Lisbon Treaty will allow the EU to prevent the use of cash as legal tender then you should state this and state why they would want to do this.

The ultimate goal of the NWO is to control every man woman and child on this planet. By issuing microchipped "smart cards" and removing cash from society they can achieve that goal.

Currently there is a serious problem with Pirates in Somalia. If the EFT was in order they could cut off the accounts of these dissadends and apprehend them. Money is not the root of all evil CASH IS. Remove cash from society sorted.

One only has to look at the UK, a current model for a NWO police state, cash is being replaced right across the board from making public phone calls, using tolls, to using public transport. Every year cards are gaining their ground over cash.

GhostInTheRuins · 19-11-2008 8:25pm

Can you point to any section in the lisbon treaty that even remotely hints at a nwo?

Here is the lisbon treaty. (Although I suppose you won't need it since you've probably read it all right?)

Run_to_da_hills · 19-11-2008 8:49pm

GhostInTheRuins wrote: »

Can you point to any section in the lisbon treaty that even remotely hints at a nwo?

Here is the lisbon treaty. (Although I suppose you won't need it since you've probably read it all right?)

You will NOT find any mention of the the word NWO from any official (Unless its a slip of the tongue) for the simple reason that it will ring alarm bells and cause scaremongering. Instead European politicians will use the milder term "Global Economic Governance" "Economic Gogernment" etc.

Et oui je peux comprendre la conversation dans tout à fait bon français

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTfv6uOHgqQ

meglome · 19-11-2008 8:51pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You wont find it anywhere in the Lisbon treaty because its a conspiracy. :rolleyes:

I'm torn between laughing at you, feeling sorry for you or telling you to shut up talking absolute crap. Try starting with some evidence, you're currently like a dung spreading machine on a farmers field, spreading it in all directions. And I'm seriously wondering if you don't really want this new world order you continually bring up.

bonkey · 19-11-2008 8:57pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

If you buy a packet of smokes and they get into the hands of Minors the authorities can scan the pack with a RFID wand and trace them back to YOU!!,

Oh no! Then I could get in as much trouble as, say, if my car was used today as the getaway vehicle in a robbery....that being no trouble at all.

likewise with any other product or litter that contains RFID Powderchips can be tracked.

Are you seriously trying to argue that not being able to litter anonymously is an egregious violation of your right to privacy?

Not to mention that someone could go through your trash and figure out that the stuff in your bin is yours...

Seriously...if thats the best scaremongering you can come up with about our future...I can't really see the problem with RFID.

The ECU European Central Bank will eventually phase out the Euro cash

The only "evidence" supporting this is the line of reasing that if they didn't, then your scary trackable-everything future could never become a reality.

the Central Bank in Ireland will just be a puppet just like the Dail will be in a few years if we give in to this constitution.

And there you go again with the mis-representation of something you have a problem with.

This seems to suggest that you've no problems with a future where we're lied to and misled....just as long as you support what we're being lied to and misled about.

bonkey · 19-11-2008 8:57pm

meglome wrote: »

I'm torn between laughing at you, feeling sorry for you or telling you to shut up talking absolute crap. Try starting with some evidence, you're currently like a dung spreading machine on a farmers field, spreading it in all directions. And I'm seriously wondering if you don't really want this new world order you continually bring up.

Calm down.

Seriously...

GhostInTheRuins · 19-11-2008 9:01pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You will NOT find any mention of the the word NWO from any official (Unless its a slip of the tongue) for the simple reason that it will ring alarm bells and cause scaremongering. Instead European politicians will use the milder term "Global Economic Governance" "Economic Gogernment" etc.

Et oui je peux comprendre la conversation dans tout à fait bon français

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTfv6uOHgqQ

I'm not expecting you to find the phrase "New World Order" in the Lisbon treaty :rolleyes:

King Mob · 19-11-2008 11:09pm

I'm still waiting to hear where exactly the Lisbon treaty states that they are going to introduce anything like what you're claiming.
The only thing I hearing is the same tangents you usually spout.
None of which are substantiated or even make sense.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-11-2008 1:12am

King Mob wrote: »

I'm still waiting to hear where exactly the Lisbon treaty states that they are going to introduce anything like what you're claiming.
The only thing I hearing is the same tangents you usually spout.
None of which are substantiated or even make sense.

You are not going to hear anything about this until all the fish are on the hooks :eek:

King Mob · 20-11-2008 1:18am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

You are not going to hear anything about this until all the fish are on the hooks :eek:

So then perhaps you are from the future?
Involved in the plot somehow?

Please enlighten us on how you know about this plot before "the fish are on the hooks."?

Diogenes · 20-11-2008 1:22am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

European Union add promoting the use of RFID with the caption ."The Future begins now!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg1VKJUrxi4
The ultimate goal of the NWO is to control every man woman and child on this planet. By issuing microchipped "smart cards" and removing cash from society they can achieve that goal.

Currently there is a serious problem with Pirates in Somalia. If the EFT was in order they could cut off the accounts of these dissadends and apprehend them. Money is not the root of all evil CASH IS. Remove cash from society sorted.

I'm sorry RtdH this is literally one of the most ass backwardly stupid things I've ever heard. Somalian pirates came into existence when their government collapsed and fishermen from nearby countries began fishing in their international waters. To suggest that these people would be firing RPGs at oil tankers if the Somalian economy and infrastructure could support the technology was set up to handle internet banking, cashless society and debt cards.

These people don't have birth certs, or credit cards, or live in a country that has y'know a government. It's just so absurd a story, it's breathtaking.

Firstly if there was all this infrastructure there wouldn't be a need for them to attack shipping, and government to control them.

Secondly you really think people with rocket launchers and Ak-47s care about banks?

You are not going to hear anything about this until all the fish are on the hooks

So simple question, how are you privy to this information?

You've made countless claims about the Lisbon treaty and haven't substantiated a single one of them, aren't you embarrassed?

Mahatma coat · 20-11-2008 4:55am

Diogenes wrote: »

Originally Posted by Run_to_da_hills View Post
Currently there is a serious problem with Pirates in Somalia. If the EFT was in order they could cut off the accounts of these dissadends ands aapprehend them. Money is not the root of all evil CASH IS.

Stundied!

I've brought this up with you before

its Very unfair to take a snippet of someones post from here and post it elsewhere for your own amusement without giving the OP either a link or a right of reply

as soon as I figure out how to Infarct you you are gettin a red card for that

I might downgrade it to yellow if you paste in a link

Diogenes · 20-11-2008 12:28pm

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I've brought this up with you before

its Very unfair to take a snippet of someones post from here and post it elsewhere for your own amusement without giving the OP either a link or a right of reply

as soon as I figure out how to Infarct you you are gettin a red card for that

I might downgrade it to yellow if you paste in a link

What I've done isn't prohibited by either this forum's or boards.ie charter. But hey make up the rules as you go along, you're going to be a fantastic mod.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-11-2008 1:42pm

Diogenes wrote: »

I'm sorry RtdH this is literally one of the most ass backwardly stupid things I've ever heard. Somalian pirates came into existence when their government collapsed and fishermen from nearby countries began fishing in their international waters. To suggest that these people would be firing RPGs at oil tankers if the Somalian economy and infrastructure could support the technology was set up to handle internet banking, cashless society and debt cards.

These people don't have birth certs, or credit cards, or live in a country that has y'know a government. It's just so absurd a story, it's breathtaking.

Firstly if there was all this infrastructure there wouldn't be a need for them to attack shipping, and government to control them.

Secondly you really think people with rocket launchers and Ak-47s care about banks?

So simple question, how are you privy to this information?

You've made countless claims about the Lisbon treaty and haven't substantiated a single one of them, aren't you embarrassed?

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Somali Pirates are just a small example of the worlds Dissidents that thrive on cash. The Way the NWO will operate is that they will beat individuals and nations into submission. through trade embargo's. (Just like the people of Ireland will soon be beaten into submission to a YES vote by the same authorities)

The EU/US will use their usual trump card, IE anyone supporting trade in Somalia is supporting terrorism. They could hold their country to ransom, the Heroes that are currently bringing in all this wealth could soon become their enemies. They are now attacking volatile cargo, it is only a matter of time before we get a maritime catastrophe and then all hell will kick in.

Somalia needs imports, The country is starting to boom, locals in these towns are getting greedy as they are getting a taste of their own "Celtic tiger" http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JK21Ak01.html

I am only taking Somalia as an example. There are loads of other nations that the up and coming NWO would love to beat into submission through sanctions and it has and is working.

You can say the same about IRAQ, a country previously run amok It is now a nation policed by the up and coming NWO, Currently there is plans to build a $3.0 billion metro in Baghdad. ROFL you would think, they would be queuing up to bomb it. But wit a minute,

They will have the option to strip search and quiz each commuter before they enter the station or they could issue biometric ID. My guess is that will not be able to get from an asses roar from it without a micro-chipped photo ID, the place will be covered in CCTV and surveillance just like any other up and coming NWO public transport network.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/iraq-baghdad-underground-train-network

Tar.Aldarion · 20-11-2008 1:47pm

Having worked with RFID R&D, thank you for this hilarious thread, so funny.

Diogenes · 20-11-2008 1:54pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

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Somali Pirates are just an example of the worlds Dissidents that thrive on cash. The Way the NWO will operate is that they will beat individuals and nations into submission. through trade embargos. (Just like the people of Ireland will soon be beaten into submission of a Yes vote by the same authorities)

So we're going to endure a trade embargo in the near future?

The EU/US will use their usual trump card, IE anyone supporting trade in Somalia is supporting terrorism.

No one is trading with Somalia, the country is lawless.

Somalia needs imports, The country is starting to boom, locals in these towns are getting greedy as they are getting a taste of their own "Celtic tiger" http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JK21Ak01.html

Theres absolutely nothing in that article that suggests Somalia is developing it's own economy.

I am only taking Somalia as an example. There are loads of other nations that the up and coming NWO would love to beat into submission through sanctions and it has and is working.

Example.

You can say the same about IRAQ, a country previously run amok It is now a nation policed by the up and coming NWO, Currently there is plans to build a $3.0 billion metro in Baghdad. ROFL you would think, they would be queuing up to bomb it. But wit a minute,

They will have the option to strip search and quiz each commuter before they enter the station or they could issue biometric ID. My guess is that will not be able to get from an asses roar from it without a micro-chipped photo ID, the place will be covered in CCTV and surveillance just like any other up and coming NWO public transport network.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/nov/18/iraq-baghdad-underground-train-network

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So economic and social stability is a bad thing?

Run_to_da_hills · 20-11-2008 2:27pm

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Having worked with RFID R&D, thank you for this hilarious thread, so funny.

Perhaps you could explain more about the folllowing: track & trace, cloning, theft of data, hidden portals, passive and active RFID, privacy issues etc etc. :eek:

Diogenes wrote: »

So we're going to endure a trade embargo in the near future?

Maybe not a trade embargo but the wooden spoon is out. :eek:

Diogenes wrote: »

No one is trading with Somalia, the country is lawless.

So what do you think they are doing with all this money? storing it under their mattresses? :rolleyes:

Are you telling me that all these brand new SUVs, Jeeps, flat screen television sets, quad motorbikes, generators, mobile phones, high speed power boats, arms etc all falling out off the sky? :rolleyes:.

Diogenes wrote: »

So economic and social stability is a bad thing?

It is a good thing in practice but not if it gets out of control. (Read George Orwells Animal Farm or look back through your history books)

Diogenes · 20-11-2008 2:58pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Maybe not a trade embargo but the wooden spoon is out. :eek:

And it will manifest how?

So what do you think they are doing with all this money? storing it under their mattresses? :rolleyes:

Are you telling me that all these brand new SUVs, Jeeps, flat screen television sets, quad motorbikes, generators, mobile phones, high speed power boats, arms etc all falling out off the sky? :rolleyes:.

And you think they are paying import tax, sales tax etc. It's blackmarket, much of what they buy will also have been stolen or misappropriated

I mean would you set up an SUV dealership in Somalia?

This isn't job creation, it's not trade in any real sense.

It is a good thing in practice but not if it gets out of control. (Read George Orwells Animal Farm or look back through your history books)

Yes peace economic and social stability can go out of control!!!!! Terror chaos! anarchy! Seriously RtdH Animal Farm is a allegory for the rise of Soviet Union it is not a warning against economic and social stability.

Can you point out one country that suffered due to economic and social stability?

King Mob · 20-11-2008 4:20pm

Hang on what has piracy got to do with Lisbon exactly?

I'll ask again: How exactly do you know about the NWO's plot when you yourself said we wouldn't know "till the fish were on the hooks"?

Run_to_da_hills · 20-11-2008 7:49pm

Diogenes wrote: »

No one is trading with Somalia, the country is lawless.

Again? I only suggested these measures this morning. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jIWjeSMWIgIHPA__s3awjXXWktPA

King Mob wrote: »

Hang on what has piracy got to do with Lisbon exactly?

Everything!!! The Lisbon treaty is an act of piracy on the Irish constitution and the peoiple of Ireland in the light of its REJECTION.

Ciaran500 · 20-11-2008 7:59pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Everything!!! The Lisbon treaty is an act of piracy on the Irish constitution

Answer the ****ing question and stop bull****ting on.

King Mob · 20-11-2008 7:59pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Everything!!! The Lisbon treaty is an act of piracy on the Irish constitution.

Right..... that make sense.......

Again you avoid my question: how do you know about this conspiracy when you said we won't know about it?
Where exactly do you get your information?

Or is it just baseless speculation based on your own skewed logic?

For that matter you have yet to show in anyway how lisbon is going to lead to any of the things you claim, let alone provide proof as such.

Nick_oliveri · 20-11-2008 8:43pm

/me subscribes to thread. Its going down!!!111

Run to da Hills, i like you, you continue unburdened by the backlash you have recieved. I may not agree with your threads but at least you try.

But, in saying that, at this stage, you'll need to show how Lisbon is a NWO agenda.
Otherwise this thread is only good for the hostility. And that has been good so far.

Diogenes · 20-11-2008 8:50pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Again? I only suggested these measures this morning. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5jIWjeSMWIgIHPA__s3awjXXWktPA

Sigh I was referring to the high end consumer products that you mentioned.

brand new SUVs, Jeeps, flat screen television sets, quad motorbikes, generators, mobile phones, high speed power boats, arms etc all falling out off the sky

Of course arms dealers are going to still import, it's just not likely that sharper image is likely to open a store in Mogadishu any time soon.

Everything!!! The Lisbon treaty is an act of piracy on the Irish constitution and the peoiple of Ireland in the light of its REJECTION.

Please explain how the Lisbon treaty will usurp our government and replace it with EU rule, and will mean our neutrality will be endangered.*

*I will be C&P this to all my responses on this thread until you answer.

Nick_oliveri · 20-11-2008 8:57pm

Diogenes wrote: »

*I will be C&P this to all my responses on this thread until you answer.

I dont think thats necessary, and it will really annoy me (AWWWW!:pac:)
RTDH knows at this stage that he will have to either show what the thread title suggests, or concede the point.(or neither)

King Mob · 20-11-2008 9:15pm

Nick_oliveri wrote: »

I dont think thats necessary, and it will really annoy me (AWWWW!:pac:)
RTDH knows at this stage that he will have to either show what the thread title suggests, or concede the point.(or neither)

Or more likely he'll throw out a few more red herrings most likely to do RFID or some such.

Run_to_da_hills · 20-11-2008 10:49pm

Diogenes wrote: »

Sigh I was referring to the high end consumer products that you mentioned. .

Like OIL?? These jeeps, generators and high end consumer products don't run on water. :rolleyes:

Diogenes wrote: »

Of course arms dealers are going to still import, it's just not likely that sharper image is likely to open a store in Mogadishu any time soon. .

Yes they will get their supplies delivered by trawler through the Gulf of Aden from dissident Islamic arms dealers, they will just have to watch out for the odd Indian, US or European frigate that might blow them out of the water.

Diogenes wrote: »

Please explain how the Lisbon treaty will usurp our government and replace it with EU rule, and will mean our neutrality will be endangered.*

Irish troops will not be forced to take part in any conflict if the Lisbon Treaty is passed and that is not my concern. My concern is that EU law and order will superseded much of the current Irish Constitution. Another words a sell out. I already mentioned Article 52 of the EU
Constitution.

King Mob wrote: »

Or more likely he'll throw out a few more red herrings most likely to do RFID or some such.

I was going to throw in a few more "red herrings" like forcing us to hand over all our personal details at airports, snooping in our emails, browsing histories, mobile text messages, retaining personally data, etc but they surprisingly the EU didn't have the patience to wait and are going ahead despite the European constitution not being passed. This is just a small sweetener of whats in store from Brussels. :eek:

I suppose the pro NWO sheeple would be grateful of these added security measures along with Chipped Identity passes because it will all contribute in the "war against terrorism" and "Illegal migration". :rolleyes:

King Mob · 20-11-2008 11:27pm

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Irish troops will not be forced to take part in any conflict if the Lisbon Treaty is passed and that is not my concern.

Complete bull! What part of lisbon leads you to believe that we'll be forced into any conflicts?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

My concern is that EU law and order will superseded much of the current Irish Constitution. Another words a sell out. I already mentioned Article 52 of the EU Constitution.

And what part of lisbon is going to "supersed" our constitution?

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

I was going to mention other "red herrings" like forcing us to hand over personal details at airports, snooping in our emails, and mobile texts, retaining personally data, etc but they surprisingly these are going ahead despite the constitution being passed.

I suppose the sheeple would be grateful of these measures along with Chipped Identity passes because it will all contribute in the "war against terrorism" and "Illegal migration". :rolleyes:

Yes and what has any of this to do with lisbon?

And asking for the fifth time: how have you access to knowledge of a plot which you said we won't have knowledge of till its too late?
For someone who wants to spread the truth ignoring my question four seems kinda counterproductive, almost hypocritical even.

Run_to_da_hills · 21-11-2008 12:10am

Run_to_da_hills wrote:

Irish troops will not be forced to take part in any conflict if the Lisbon Treaty is passed and that is not my concern. .

King Mob wrote: »

Complete bull! What part of lisbon leads you to believe that we'll be forced into any conflicts?

.

Please read my post correctly.:rolleyes:

studiorat · 21-11-2008 12:33am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Et oui je peux comprendre la conversation dans tout à fait en bon français

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTfv6uOHgqQ

Je ne pense pas que vous faire comprendre.

King Mob · 21-11-2008 1:20am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Please read my post correctly.:rolleyes:

Ahh apologies must have read it too fast.

However you completely ignored my question for the fifth time. Why?
Thought you'd be all for spreading the truth and information.

Run_to_da_hills · 21-11-2008 1:44am

King Mob wrote: »

Ahh apologies must have read it too fast.

However you completely ignored my question for the fifth time. Why?
Thought you'd be all for spreading the truth and information.

Jumping to conclusions,

I'm not all that bad, I do give the EU some credit.

King Mob · 21-11-2008 1:58am

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Jumping to conclusions,

I'm not all that bad, I do give the EU some credit.

Again avoiding the question.

So I can only assume your speculation about the Lisbon Treaty leading to RFID chips, destroying our constitution and it being part of a NWO conspiracy are, as many can probably guess, pure baseless fiction.

Mahatma coat · 21-11-2008 2:22am

King Mob, Play nice, this is a forum for theories, RTDH has tried to explain his theory, you seem to have no interest in discussion, just Attack for the sake of it.

how about some positive contribution for a change

King Mob · 21-11-2008 2:28am

Yea I attacking his argument , It's called crictical thinking. If his theory is based on something other than baseless speculation and paranoia it will stand up to basic critical inquiry.

It's not doing very well...

Fair enough though I'll try to introduce something positive.

My theory is that Europe will try to introduce a law that will require everyone to eat a baby once a year.

Mahatma coat · 21-11-2008 2:44am

and do you have a precedent for this whole baby eatin thing, one of our own babies or oneof thse starvin ones in Africa that was gonna die anyway?

RTDH is joining the dots and tryin to explain to us how he sees the world, there are many people in the same boat as him, Blue in the face trying to tell people to wake up and smell what they're shovelin.

Diogenes · 21-11-2008 2:44am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

King Mob, Play nice, this is a forum for theories, RTDH has tried to explain his theory, you seem to have no interest in discussion, just Attack for the sake of it.

how about some positive contribution for a change

RtdH has made nearly a dozen lurid claims about the Libson treaty. Instead pf giving KM lip about RtDH claims perhaps you'd give RtdH lip for making unsubstantiated and unsupported claimd.

King Mob · 21-11-2008 2:50am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

and do you have a precedent for this whole baby eatin thing, one of our own babies or oneof thse starvin ones in Africa that was gonna die anyway?

Obviously not because the NWO is covering it up and noone will know until it's too late.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

RTDH is joining the dots and tryin to explain to us how he sees the world, there are many people in the same boat as him, Blue in the face trying to tell people to wake up and smell what they're shovelin.

Yea and with enough dots you can get any pattern you like doesn't necessarily mean that it's there. Hence why you need evidence and logic to verify whether a pattern is actually there or is actually just your imagination.
Evidence and logic is sorely missing in Run to the Hills argument.

Mahatma coat · 21-11-2008 2:57am

Diogenes wrote: »

RtdH has made nearly a dozen lurid claims about the Libson treaty. Instead pf giving KM lip about RtDH claims perhaps you'd give RtdH lip for making unsubstantiated and unsupported claimd.

Run_to_da_hills · 21-11-2008 3:00am

Mahatma coat wrote: »

King Mob, Play nice, this is a forum for theories, RTDH has tried to explain his theory, you seem to have no interest in discussion, just Attack for the sake of it.

how about some positive contribution for a change

Perhaps they can tuned in to BIG BROTHER ALERT !!! and watch the net close in :eek:

Nick_oliveri · 21-11-2008 3:02am

King Mob wrote: »

Yea and with enough dots you can get any pattern you like doesn't necessarily mean that it's there. Hence why you need evidence and logic to verify whether a pattern is actually there or is actually just your imagination.
Evidence and logic is sorely missing in Run to the Hills argument.

QFT.
3 pages(?)in and there is no context of the treaty vs how it ties in with the NWO. I might start a thread about PS3 controllers and the NWO, and not back it up.

This thread is spiraling into the abyss. Its not an idea, its a baseless theory. Can we drag it on topic now?

Run_to_da_hills · 21-11-2008 3:24am

Diogenes wrote: »

RtdH has made nearly a dozen lurid claims about the Libson treaty. Instead pf giving KM lip about RtDH claims perhaps you'd give RtdH lip for making unsubstantiated and unsupported claimd.

I would advise you to Keep well clear of the CT forums if you don't want to hear of any more lurid claims about the European Union or its Lisbon Referendum. :pac::pac::pac:

I will also state that seat no 666 has been Vacant in the European Parliament for almost a decade. :eek:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/seat_666.htm

Perhaps they are waiting for the Antichrist who will sit in seat number 666 in the European Parliament and control every man woman and child on this planet using the "Mark of the Beast" microchip implant. :eek:

666 IS RISING !!!.:eek:

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads" ,

"And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name".

"Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six". Revelation 13vs16to18,

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2008/1118/1226961467105.html?via=mr

King Mob · 21-11-2008 3:28am

Well now it makes sense.
Who needs any evidence when you can just throw up some pics and quote the bible?

A YES vote for Lisbon is a YES vote for ushering in the New World Order.

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