Why is there such a pathological hatred of cats in Irish society?

pablo_escobar · 24-10-2010 5:55pm

i'm not a 'bogger'

let's talk about the psychology of cat lovers shall we?

we've all heard of 'crazy cat ladies'

GLaDOS · 24-10-2010 5:58pm

pablo_escobar wrote: »

i knew someone would argue that...

the point is, cats will mark their territory while also putting people's health at risk.

no way could you have a cat on a farm without risking the health of your livestock.

you may as well keep rats on the farm.

cats might look 'cute' and behave 'funny' but they're deadly.

search online for deaths by cats, you'll see it's common.

And there's never any deaths related to dogs at all?

And cats are useful on the farm, historically and in modern times: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_cat

Kiera · 24-10-2010 5:58pm

galwayrush wrote: »

I don't know anyone who hates cats.

Hi, my name is Kiera. Pleased to meet you.

I hate cats.

Now you know one person :P

galwayrush · 24-10-2010 6:00pm

Kiera wrote: »

Hi, my name is Kiera. Pleased to meet you.

I hate cats.

Now you know one person :P

I should have added...........'without a good reason'................;)

pablo_escobar · 24-10-2010 6:04pm

ScienceNerd wrote: »

And there's never any deaths related to dogs at all?

And cats are useful on the farm, historically and in modern times: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm_cat

there are problems with that wikipedia entry, lack of references..

i don't hate cats but i wouldn't keep them around the house.

GLaDOS · 24-10-2010 6:07pm

pablo_escobar wrote: »

there are problems with that wikipedia entry, lack of references..

i don't hate cats but i wouldn't keep them around the house.

The British journal of Animal Behaviour good enough for you?

pablo_escobar · 24-10-2010 6:13pm

cats might kill mice but they wouldn't be able to take on an adult rat.

http://www.pest-free.net/pnov04mckinzie.pdf

galwayrush · 24-10-2010 6:16pm

pablo_escobar wrote: »

cats might kill mice but they wouldn't be able to take on an adult rat.

http://www.pest-free.net/pnov04mckinzie.pdf

Mine did, she attacked an adult rat, but the rat was getting the better of her, so she lay on her back and played dead, the rat climbed on top of her, big mistake, suddenly she lashed out with 4 claws and the rat was disembowled...........

Mr Benevolent · 24-10-2010 6:18pm

I like cats. They roast well with some oregano and a little olive oil.

Serious answer: I like cats.

Archeron · 24-10-2010 6:24pm

Ralph Wiggum wrote:

My cats breath smells like cat food.

I have NEVER had this problem with my dogs, thats why I prefer them.

I dont hate cats though, I can see why some people keep them as pets, I just wouldn't.

Mr Benevolent · 24-10-2010 6:32pm

Archeron wrote: »

I have NEVER had this problem with my dogs, thats why I prefer them.

That's because you're not feeding your dogs cat food.

TemptationWaits · 24-10-2010 6:34pm

Cats are way better than dogs! In Ireland most people prefer dogs because most of the population live in houses as opposed to apartments, so have the room to keep a dog.

But yeah, it does seem much more acceptable to say I hate cats as opposed to I hate dogs!

Marcus.Aurelius · 24-10-2010 6:36pm

Self-absorbed and loyalty-free.

I've always wondered, why do cat owners bother? How do they deal with the lack of emotional feedback? Maybe they're not occupied with such thoughts.

I for one have always found dogs rewarding and have always been delighted by their loyalty and intellect. My neighbour's cat was as clever as the next feline, but completely outwitted day in and day out by a very agile staffordshire bull terrier. (No nasty fights, just a quick chase, nip and release, the dog won 99% of the time)

View Profile · 24-10-2010 6:52pm

I've had both cats and a dog. They both serve different purposes. The cat can be quite mischievous and cheeky which is funny. Its easier to look after than the dog and can entertain itself especially if you are away for a few days.

I have a few friends who say they hate cats but they have never owned one or been close to one. And to be honest who gives a sh|te if the cat isnt loyal to you like a dog. A goldfish , hamster, budgie or snake are no more loyal.
Anyway the question isnt asking which is better, dogs or cats, its why do irish people dislike them!

Maybe its due to allergies, close mindedness and some deep rooted emotional need to be loved by everyone and everything.

newmug · 24-10-2010 6:58pm

PanchoVilla wrote: »

You know what the bubonic plague was? You know why it spread so fast? Because superstitious Christians used to kill cats, which led to a massive increase in rat populations. These rats were everywhere and spread the plague like wildfire. Want to reconsider your statement?

Ridiculous.

Misanthrope wrote: »

Would you prefer 177 lollipops or 22 lollipops if say, you were going to ......... a lollipop festival or something?;)

Or would u bring "skittles"?

22 lollipops all the way for me, main reason is cos I only have a 22 lollipop dispenser, not a 117. Skittles? As in 12 Gauges of skittles? Have fed them to cats when I had to, messy though. Wouldn't recommend it.

Shenshen wrote: »

I suspect that people who don't keep their cat exclusively indoors still let it inside for food and shelter...

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

GLaDOS · 24-10-2010 6:59pm

Caesar Augustus wrote: »

Self-absorbed and loyalty-free.

I've always wondered, why do cat owners bother? How do they deal with the lack of emotional feedback? Maybe they're not occupied with such thoughts.

It's not a problem that occurs, my cats are very affectionate, have you ever owned a cat?

Marcus.Aurelius · 24-10-2010 7:04pm

ScienceNerd wrote: »

It's not a problem that occurs, my cats are very affectionate, have you ever owned a cat?

Not one of my own, but lived in a house where the owner had a cat. I always liked the cat, somewhat affectionate in the way it would stay with you if you were watching tv or having a snooze.

I knew the whole time though that if I was to get up I was replaced by the next victim. Cats are floozies, just their nature. Some have a kind of affection for their owners, but I always thought it severely limited by their natural self-interest. Call me backward, but I always preferred the dog, it might be less graceful and more difficult to care for, but I've always found them far more rewarding and intelligent. I do know there are breeds of dog that are far less intelligent than the average moggy, and have never owned those breeds anyway.

Sardonicat · 24-10-2010 7:17pm

newmug wrote: »

Ridiculous.

22 lollipops all the way for me, main reason is cos I only have a 22 lollipop dispenser, not a 117. Skittles? As in 12 Gauges of skittles? Have fed them to cats when I had to, messy though. Wouldn't recommend it.

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

You pick an animal up by the tail and wonder why it started hissing at you? And then you kick it into the air and kill it? An animal behaving like an animal is not trying to "press any buttons". A human behaving like an animal has no excuses.

Dudess · 24-10-2010 8:10pm

Fully agree with the OP - and people here say sh1t about what they've done to them or would do to them that would cause M50-like traffic on the Reported Posts section if it were in relation to dogs.
If you don't like cats, you don't like cats, but some of the reasons for the dislike here are so piss-poor. Certainly piss-poor for hatred, if not dislike. They smell bad? There have been cats in my parents' house since I was tiny and not one of them even had a smell, let alone a bad smell, whereas dogs can stink. I love dogs too btw but I get annoyed by pure fallacies and misunderstandings in relation to cats. A dislike of them because they're not affectionate - really? Get to know a cat before making that call because it's bullsh1t. Sure, they're more guarded than dogs, but once they trust you, they are exceptionally affectionate.
And they're useless? Not when they kill rats and mice.
They're also way cleaner than dogs, who can be pretty darn filthy. And that's fine - they can't help it... just like cats can't help the apparently awful things they're capable of. It's silly to ascribe human traits to them and make expectations accordingly (the same goes for dogs, even the positive stuff - note to anyone who puts clothes on their dogs: they ****ing hate it) - cats can be disloyal, sure... but they don't know how to be any other way, they're not humans.

That said, I can understand someone having a fear or dislike of them due to a bad childhood experience - it's not fully logical to apply this to all cats, but a lot of fears aren't fully logical. People can overcome such fears though. A friend of mine hated dogs because of being bitten as a kid but now loves them after getting a puppy. My gran is afraid of cats but a kitten wandered into her backyard a few years ago, and despite her giving out about him, you could tell she was becoming smitten - always ensuring he had a warm place to sleep and enough to eat.

Sanjuro wrote: »

Boards.ie aside, where have you heard this in such quantity that you think Irish people pathologically hate cats? I'm no cat-lover. I'm a dog person. But I've never met anyone who actually hates cats. I think you're making a generalization. And a grossly inaccurate one at that.

Plenty of people have told me they hate cats.

sonic85 · 24-10-2010 8:14pm

demanufactured wrote: »

It seems to come from farmer folk and boggers who live in the sticks who like to kill everything that moves..

Cats are cool , i have 6 of them

crazy cat person? :pac:

Dave147 · 24-10-2010 8:19pm

Because they're scheming evil rodents.

Cú Giobach · 25-10-2010 7:54am

Dog comes into house gets mud on carpet.
Cat scratches around in litter box and jumps up on tables & counter tops.
Which is dirtier, mud on carpet or cat pi*s & sh*t on table?
I like dogs & cats, but consider cats dirtier.

PanchoVilla · 25-10-2010 8:05am

pablo_escobar wrote: »

cats might look 'cute' and behave 'funny' but they're deadly.

I'll actually agree with this statement.

http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/ss199/QcGuy2002/Kitty_with_a_gun.jpg

Shenshen · 25-10-2010 9:08am

newmug wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

So not only did you feel the need to hurt the animal, you also killed it for no other reason than inconveniencing you...

I think this says a whole lot more about yourself than it does about cats.

PanchoVilla · 25-10-2010 9:19am

newmug wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

I seriously hope you don't have kids, you sound like a fúcking psychopath to be honest. I would suggest you seek professional help for your anger issues and violent outbursts.

PanchoVilla · 25-10-2010 9:22am

On a lighter note...MOAR KATZ!!

gurramok · 25-10-2010 10:00am

They say serial killers first started out by killing animals for the fun of it

Kimia · 25-10-2010 10:21am

newmug wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

This just makes me sick. How can you possibly boast about killing an innocent cat? And then saying that the cat asked for it by 'behaving the way they do'. You're the one who should be drop kicked, and your confession above only serves to give me an insight into your sick head unfortunately.

Dudess · 25-10-2010 10:46am

Probably just a trolling keyboard warrior who never did that, but imagine the same thing being said here in relation to a dog...

Oh yeah and hissing and spitting in a defensive way while being attacked - whatever next?! The ****er deserved to die!

stovelid · 25-10-2010 10:47am

newmug wrote: »

I can never understand how anyone would let ANY animal indoors. Its just not right. Reminds me of a story - One morning, going to work, I open the back door and 4 fcukin young cats try to burst in. I managed to shoo 3 of them away, but one vile fcuker got in. He ran under the couch, up the curtains, across the table knocking a few things as he went, everywhere! I couldnt get him. Eventually he made a burst for the back door, back to the outside. My back door is glass nearly all the way to the bottom, he lambasted himself off it! I was fuming at this dirty cretin, so I picked him up by the tail to throw him out. While I was carrying him out, he was all "meow, meow", real nice and cute like, as if to say "i'm only a poor lickle kitty, pweeeeze let me go". I was just about to, when he revealed his true intentions, and started hissing and spitting and clawing at my leg. Well, I had reached my limit, and I drop-kicked the fcuker ala Ronan O'Gara. He spun through the air head over tail, probably saw Dublin from his altitude, and came down head first on a window-sill at the far end of the house. I felt bad for doing it the minute my foot made contact, but they're exactly the buttons cats press when they behave the way they do, and thats the consequences. Needless to say all 9 of his lives evaporated instantly. I felt bad afterwards, and I still do. Obviously, it was me and my mindset that was at fault, not the dumb animal. So OP, reading this, compare it to what you would have done and how you would have behaved. Maybe it will give you an insight into the thinking behind why people hate them so much.

There are lots of people here, including me, that would love to teach you the error of your ways.

Then we'd see just how you fare against a living thing your own size.

Dudess · 25-10-2010 10:51am

Cú Giobach wrote: »

Dog comes into house gets mud on carpet.
Cat scratches around in litter box and jumps up on tables & counter tops.
Which is dirtier, mud on carpet or cat pi*s & sh*t on table?
I like dogs & cats, but consider cats dirtier.

Dogs can't clean their arses, cats can.

Demonique · 25-10-2010 10:57am

Weren't cats once associated with witchcraft? Witchcraft being something that the Catholic church didn't exactly like and Ireland once being a deeply Catholic country, maybe people disliked them because of the witch thing?

johngalway · 25-10-2010 11:05am

Sister has two. They used to live in my shed. Great I thought there'll be no rats, right? Wrong. Rats bored a hole under the floor of the shed, and started opening barley bags. Cats got evicted poste haste, trapped the rats myself, two problems solved.

Dogs sh1t on paths because of their owners either letting them stray or only walking them on paths. Cats sh1t in places you least expect then hide it for you to find with un-gloved hands. Or leave it for kids to find and get sick.

Cats go where they like and do what they like - cats get in the way. The overly PC crowd on here will get their knickers in a twist if I make that comparison...

Never had a dog run into this house. Often had cats not only run into the house but;
Scratch the sh1t out of furniture,
Hide themselves upstairs and p1ss all over everything,
Walk on all the kitchen surfaces,
Run up and knock over the Christmas tree.

Cats kill many birds & frogs each year.

They wake people up in the middle of the night with their bloody screeching.

In short, cats are redundant, evil, selfish, smelly, noisy wastes of space.

That enough reasons for ya

Cheap Thrills! · 25-10-2010 11:14am

Dudess wrote: »

Dogs can't clean their arses, cats can.

Cats 'clean' their arses with their tongue, which they then use to groom their fur. So they quite efficiently spread whatever ghastly germs inhabit their arses all over themselves. Their mouths are as filthy as their arses!

Then people RUB them, let them sleep in their beds, touching their pillows, roaming on the counter tops, sitting on the couch!!!

Cats are without doubt pretty creatures, but my policy is 'look but dont touch' . Cat owners seem to be oblivious to the inherant unhygienicness of them.

I never accept food or drinks in a house where kitty resides!!!

Dogs lick their balls but remain on the floor. Good doggy!

stovelid · 25-10-2010 11:18am

Whenever I read any of the posts in this thread about animal germs, I'm put in mind of those stagy cleaning ads where you see the kid playing on the counter and the camera suddenly zooms down to microscope (to OTT Jaws music) to show loads of bacteria rustling ominously.

dlofnep · 25-10-2010 11:19am

I have a cat. I remember waking up one morning, and seeing some prick from across the street taunting my cat up a tree while he was bringing his dog for a walk. I was going to kick him up and down the street. I went out and he walked off with his head down. I have a cat and a dog - and the dog is far more of a handful. The cat just sleeps, and meows when it wants to go out or wants food. The dog barks at 6am at the first sight of morn.

gurramok · 25-10-2010 11:22am

Demonique wrote: »

Weren't cats once associated with witchcraft? Witchcraft being something that the Catholic church didn't exactly like and Ireland once being a deeply Catholic country, maybe people disliked them because of the witch thing?

Yeh black cats were the victims solely based on their colour. Back then anything black human or animal was victimised, shows you how backward society was in the middle ages.

VinnyTGM · 25-10-2010 11:25am

I don't hate cats but I don't like them either. A dog is far better, you can interact with it to an extent, show me a cat that can give the paw, lie down, sit etc when told to do it.

phasers · 25-10-2010 11:28am

Dogs are loyal, cats aren't.

Also a cat scratched my Dad's face up once for no reason.
dogs>>>>>>cats

(I like cats though)

saywhatyousee · 25-10-2010 11:31am

i have two cats,i think they are great
cats are good company too.
i just hate when they try to bite my headphone wire:D

Scuid Mhór · 25-10-2010 11:33am

Pookah wrote: »

It's possibly a left-over from the prehistoric age when big cats stalked us, manifesting in the hypothalamus part of the brain.

Cat-lovers are therefore more evolved, according to this theory.

i always knew there was something behind my disdain for those vile creatures.

ejmaztec · 25-10-2010 11:39am

VinnyTGM wrote: »

I don't hate cats but I don't like them either. A dog is far better, you can interact with it to an extent, show me a cat that can give the paw, lie down, sit etc when told to do it.

Why would they want to do that?:pac:

Shenshen · 25-10-2010 11:55am

ejmaztec wrote: »

Why would they want to do that?:pac:

Cause dog people have a hard time accepting anything that won't obey?

enda1 · 25-10-2010 12:01pm

Why is there such a pathological hatred of cats in Irish society?

Because they are the spawns of Satan!

Cú Giobach · 25-10-2010 12:06pm

Dudess wrote: »

Dogs can't clean their arses, cats can.

It's not their arses cats should clean, it's their feet.

For some reason we seem to be the only animals that need to clean our arses after every "movement", (one of the reasons I don't believe a god created us).

Cheap Thrills! · 25-10-2010 12:11pm

So to summarise.

Cats own people and people own dogs.

People who live in cats houses are controlled by cats.
People owned by cats dont mind rubbing fur soaked in anus juice.

Dog people can eat safely at home.
Dog people can pat the top of the dogs head without fear of anus juice.

Magenta · 25-10-2010 12:12pm

It makes me laugh when people bleat on about how loyal dogs are, when half the time, their own dogs are kept on a chain in the back garden.
He's loyal, is he? He's chained up, he hardly has much choice!

Part of the reason people dislike cats is because, like people, you have to earn a cat's respect and affection. Some people have this insecure little need to feel loved and be adored and worshipped for no reason, which is why they prefer dogs.

Auldloon · 25-10-2010 12:18pm

Shenshen wrote: »

Title says it all, really.

I've never met so many people with such a dislike and hatred of cats anywhere else

You have not been to Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Spain, or Malta then.

Son Of A Vidic · 25-10-2010 12:23pm

Cats are just generally selfish, disloyal and more or less worthless. They can't gaurd, shepherd or guide and are virtually untrainable due to their stupidity. They are truly good at killling any small bird or animal, just for the fun of it rather than throuh any survival need. Natures true serial killers indeed!

Shenshen · 25-10-2010 12:30pm

medicman2009 wrote: »

Cats are just generally selfish, disloyal and more or less worthless. They can't gaurd, shepherd or guide and are virtually untrainable due to their stupidity. They are truly good at killling any small bird or animal, just for the fun of it rather than throuh any survival need. Natures true serial killers indeed!

You were saying?

Why is there such a pathological hatred of cats in Irish society?

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