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  • #1552
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Playboy wrote: »
    How many hours a day do you play? Cant believe people are at 80 already and bored in a game of this scale!! The percentage of the population at lvl 80 at this stage must be sub 5%. WoW didnt have an amazing endgame a few days after launch either. End game as PvP is perfect for the time being imo .. dont think the game is particularly aimed at the WoW raid gear grinders, at least yet anyway. The good thing is I suppose is that you can go back to WoW until that type of content is introduced and you wont have to worry about re-subbing to play!

    I had a huge session last saturday/sunday, besides that maybe 3 or 4 hours a night. I haven't played wow in 2 years (besides a month stint at the start of the summer), but it took a long time to finish the end game, even in vanilla... mainly because it was actual endgame. In GW2 by the time your 80 you'll probably already have done all the dungeons (I only had the level 80 one to do when i dinged). And just 1 or 2 80 zones to complete which take less than a couple of hours each.


    Completionist wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that GW2 adopts the same method as WoW, In which all your hard work becomes obsolete every few months because of a new expansion?
    Wow expansions are released once a year, they do add new tiers every 4 months or so tho. I mean.. the reason wow has been the #1 mmo since its release is the endgame progression. Its why players constantly come back to it. Do they really expect people to grind dungeons just for a reskin ?
    They have been saying this from the start, PvE endgame begins from the moment you load the game. It is not a grind to 80 in order to get to the fun things. You said it yourself, You have a couple of explorables do, That is comparable to me saying I am bored of WoW and it lacks content but I didn't do Black Temple yet(I haven't played in years!:P). Each explorable dungeon is actually multiple dungeons, You go off in different paths and fight different bosses/enemies, There might be a slight bit of overlap in getting to the bosses but other than that they are completely separate experiences.

    Well... no its not really like saying that. Considering black temple took most guilds up to a few months to complete.. and i've already done most of the dungeons at least once in exploration mode after less than 2 weeks playing.
    Sure, Loads of content does not open up once you hit 80 like in WoW, But how is that ever a good thing? Why should I not be allowed to experience the fun parts of a game until I dedicate a few hundred hours? When you compare how many zones, dynamic events(Each zone with its own large event), World bosses and instances(Each with multiple paths) GW2 has compared to what WoW had when it initially released I cannot see how you can even consider saying that GW2 is lacking in content.
    Well yeah... it is a good thing. Your forgetting that wow had nearly 15 level 1-59 dungeons on release aswel.. it wasn't just about the endgame in the beginning, playing/leveling with friends for the first time was just as fun as it was in guildwars for me. I don't want to keep comparing it to wow, because i know they're didn't try to replicate it and for a lot of things thats worked out well... but small things like being able to inspect other players gear, checking how many kills you've got in pvp to bigger things like actual meaningful gear progression would have gone a long way. Gotta also remember that wow was released nearly 8 years ago it really didn't feel like a grind in 2005 and the fact that a near 8 year old game had better endgame is astonishing.

    Also, Have you considered farming the legendaries? They each have unique skins, Animations and particle effects. For example the legendary shortbow is rumoured to shoot rainbows, And each will take weeks of work to obtain.
    No, i don't see the point in investing that much time for something that is merely a reskin. I already look like a bad ass with my 10 gold gear set.




    I donno... im just disappointed that im already bored with a game that was hyped so much and almost delivered until i reached level 80 and released there was nothing left to do.


  • #1553
    Completionist
    Registered Users Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Completionist


    Here is an example of the legendary weapons



  • #1554
    Playboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Playboy


    Magill wrote: »

    Well yeah... it is a good thing. Your forgetting that wow had nearly 15 level 1-59 dungeons on release aswel.. it wasn't just about the endgame in the beginning, playing/leveling with friends for the first time was just as fun as it was in guildwars for me. I don't want to keep comparing it to wow, because i know they're didn't try to replicate it and for a lot of things thats worked out well... but small things like being able to inspect other players gear, checking how many kills you've got in pvp to bigger things like actual meaningful gear progression would have gone a long way. Gotta also remember that wow was released nearly 8 years ago it really didn't feel like a grind in 2005 and the fact that a near 8 year old game had better endgame is astonishing.

    But what's the difference between farming skins and farming gear with better stats? At the end of the day the goal is the same.. It's items that set you apart from other players. In the case of wow the better gear made you more powerful than other players. But isn't that kind of silly in a way? Why do we need to make the players who are playing the game the most, and have developed better skills because of that, more powerful than casual players. It means the casual has no chance in PVE or PVP because they are facing dedicated gamers with gear far superior to theirs. There is no challenge in that. Success or achievement in a mmo at endgame should be down to a players skill only and not to gear differences... Especially in PvP. I'm betting that GW2 PvP will prosper and be a massive hit because of this. PvE I'm less concerned about but I'm guessing content will be added in time along with some of the features you say are missing at the moment


  • #1555
    uncle_sam_ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,191 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    In a few weeks when I hit level 80 and after I lv a Necromancer, I think I'll try for one of the Legendaries. I can't understand why people are rushing to get to lv 80 and skipping most of the content. Your only robbing yourself. Last night I spent 2 hours on jumping puzzles. There is one in Lion's Arch that's really cool . I didn't get much XP in the 2 hours but, I had a lot of fun.


  • #1556
    ShaneScouse
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭ShaneScouse


    Magill wrote: »
    In GW2 by the time your 80 you'll probably already have done all the dungeons (I only had the level 80 one to do when i dinged). And just 1 or 2 80 zones to complete which take less than a couple of hours each.

    I'm sorry but you have had to have wh0red this game to the extreme since it came out, to only have 2 areas left outa them all is alot of work, let alone it sounds like you have run the explorable dungeons dozens of times each to have got the gear. I know a few guildies who are lvl 80 and most of them have barely touched 50% of the map. I'm around 65 myself and have about 32% world completed. I don't blame you for being burnt out because it sounds like you are playing a game designed to not be wh0red to the extreme in a way that wow or other massive timesink mmos play. Its not that type of mmo, most of us knew that before even preordreing not sure how you didn't.

    End game is WvW pvp for me and alot of people I play with, with no pve raids and handfull of 5man dungeons it was obvious if you werent a mmo pvp fan then endgame wasnt going to be massive(each dungeon has 3 diff options to do so there is various ways and areas to do in each dungeon so technically there is alot more then the actuall amount of enterable dungeons)

    I and most of the people I play with are sick of the tried and tested wow/lotro etc end game with raiding taking over your evenings and more work then fun going into an mmo, gw2 is different and its endgame like has been said has already started when you created your character, its meant to be more fun then work and therefore more casual. I still waste hours on the game but its more for PVP and doing the areas then any actually grind, and It will be wvw pvp for me for months. Alts and doing the areas again :)
    Its no more repetitive then anything wow ever done, You make it sound like you didn't have to grind the wow dungeons again and again and again and again for gear. You coulda been done with wow endgame in a week bar a raid if you count doing a instance once as it 'done'

    I ain't trying to wowbash or lick to much Anet shoes but you sound alot like the moaners on reddit and the likes, they aren't playing wow anymore so obv something wow does at endgame isn't good enough as they arent doing it, then they get gw2 and want it to do what wow does but just right so they wont be bored of the 'wowness' of it. I honestly dont get the logic, Rift has end game coming out the wazoo yet it failed as to many say it was wow with rifts, to alike. Gw2 isnt like wow enough, omg wheres the instance finder and my raids, its gona fail.

    sigh :P
    Completionist wrote: »
    Honestly I think the entire leveling system should have been removed as it serves no purpose other than to limit the world and give people a false sense of working towards something.

    Anet actually didn't want to have levels, and at first weren't going to. They only added them in late in the dev stage as they thought the lack of levels would just be to alien to the average mmo/wow player.


  • #1557
    ArthurG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    seven_eleven wrote: »
    I have no idea where to go level. Im currently a level 8 norn. Ive done all the quests (love heart things) in my starting area, and then moved into wayfarer foothills at like level 5 and done most of the quests there until I hit a certain point where everything seemed to jump straight up to like level 13+ and I wasnt able for them.

    After that me and some friends went and levelled in the grove and Caledon forest up until around Sandycove beach. Now im at a complete loss.

    This aspect of the game is pretty annoying. Im so used to it being simple like WoW :D. Anybody got any info?

    I think your problem is that you're treating the renown hearts as quest hubs, and not doing anything else?. The hearts are only a fraction of the available xp - events, crafting and exploring will give you tons more. Trying to progress only using the hearts will not work, you need to explore the world.


  • #1558
    Big Knox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    Magill wrote: »
    I had a huge session last saturday/sunday, besides that maybe 3 or 4 hours a night. I haven't played wow in 2 years (besides a month stint at the start of the summer), but it took a long time to finish the end game, even in vanilla... mainly because it was actual endgame. In GW2 by the time your 80 you'll probably already have done all the dungeons (I only had the level 80 one to do when i dinged). And just 1 or 2 80 zones to complete which take less than a couple of hours each.

    I'm sick and tired of telling people this; Stop comparing it to WoW. WoW is a dungeon based MMO with focus on endgame raids. Guild wars is a casual MMO with focus on exploration and PvP.

    I also can't see how you only have one or two 80 zones left with only 60% map completion?
    Magill wrote: »
    Wow expansions are released once a year, they do add new tiers every 4 months or so tho. I mean.. the reason wow has been the #1 mmo since its release is the endgame progression. Its why players constantly come back to it. Do they really expect people to grind dungeons just for a reskin ?

    Not sure what your point is here. The standard gear treadmill works for WoW yes but again what has this got to do with GW2?

    And for the record WoW raids were / are incredibly tedious and a massive grind. How anyone finds it fun is beyond me.
    Magill wrote: »
    Well... no its not really like saying that. Considering black temple took most guilds up to a few months to complete.. and i've already done most of the dungeons at least once in exploration mode after less than 2 weeks playing.

    Again if you find dying constantly on the same content for months and months fun more power to you.
    Magill wrote: »
    Well yeah... it is a good thing. Your forgetting that wow had nearly 15 level 1-59 dungeons on release aswel.. it wasn't just about the endgame in the beginning, playing/leveling with friends for the first time was just as fun as it was in guildwars for me. I don't want to keep comparing it to wow, because i know they're didn't try to replicate it and for a lot of things thats worked out well... but small things like being able to inspect other players gear, checking how many kills you've got in pvp to bigger things like actual meaningful gear progression would have gone a long way. Gotta also remember that wow was released nearly 8 years ago it really didn't feel like a grind in 2005 and the fact that a near 8 year old game had better endgame is astonishing.

    I'm not going to go into every point on this but again you keep referring to "endgame". This isn't a WoW clone MMO, stop looking for things in it you think worked in WoW, they won't be there, ever!

    Also "Meaningful gear progression" imho is not a good thing. It turns the playerbase into hardcore ego maniacs and makes the game about one thing. I've played WoW for long enough to realise this is a deeply flawed system and that's before taking into account pvp balance!

    And for the record you couldn't inspect gear or pvp kills in WoW on release! :p

    Magill wrote: »
    I donno... im just disappointed that im already bored with a game that was hyped so much and almost delivered until i reached level 80 and released there was nothing left to do.

    What do you expect? You rushed through the game like leveling an alt in WoW expecting the game to start at 80.

    Also it's fairly clear you have no intention to pvp which is what guild wars has always been about first and foremost. How you didn't know this before hand is strange!

    Being honest and without trying to sound smart, I think you need to go back to WoW for your MMO experience. You are trying desperately to find it in GW2 and that's never going to happen!


  • #1559
    Magill
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,732 ✭✭✭Magill


    Playboy wrote: »
    But what's the difference between farming skins and farming gear with better stats? At the end of the day the goal is the same.. It's items that set you apart from other players. In the case of wow the better gear made you more powerful than other players. But isn't that kind of silly in a way? Why do we need to make the players who are playing the game the most, and have developed better skills because of that, more powerful than casual players. It means the casual has no chance in PVE or PVP because they are facing dedicated gamers with gear far superior to theirs. There is no challenge in that. Success or achievement in a mmo at endgame should be down to a players skill only and not to gear differences... Especially in PvP. I'm betting that GW2 PvP will prosper and be a massive hit because of this. PvE I'm less concerned about but I'm guessing content will be added in time along with some of the features you say are missing at the moment

    Yes, farming gear would be the same in both games... if there was some kind of progression. Unless your in a top guild, it takes months to complete dungeons in wow.. whereas I've already completed all of the story mode dungeons and have done most of them in exploration mode (Just the 40+50 ones to do).
    ShaneScouse wrote: »
    I'm sorry but you have had to have wh0red this game to the extreme since it came out, to only have 2 areas left outa them all is alot of work, let alone it sounds like you have run the explorable dungeons dozens of times each to have got the gear. I know a few guildies who are lvl 80 and most of them have barely touched 50% of the map. I'm around 65 myself and have about 32% world completed. I don't blame you for being burnt out because it sounds like you are playing a game designed to not be wh0red to the extreme in a way that wow or other massive timesink mmos play. Its not that type of mmo, most of us knew that before even preordreing not sure how you didn't.
    I never said i have 2 areas left, like i said, I've about 60% map completion. I said there is only a couple of level 80 zones to do. And like I've said.. im not burnt out.. i just don't have anything worthwhile to do. I'll be leaving the low level area's i haven't done incase i decide to make a new character or something. I never researched or looked at any videos concerning the game, just for something that was talked about so much i wasn't expecting to be twiddling my thumbs so soon.


    I and most of the people I play with are sick of the tried and tested wow/lotro etc end game with raiding taking over your evenings and more work then fun going into an mmo, gw2 is different and its endgame like has been said has already started when you created your character, its meant to be more fun then work and therefore more casual. I still waste hours on the game but its more for PVP and doing the areas then any actually grind, and It will be wvw pvp for me for months. Alts and doing the areas again :)
    Its no more repetitive then anything wow ever done, You make it sound like you didn't have to grind the wow dungeons again and again and again and again for gear. You coulda been done with wow endgame in a week bar a raid if you count doing a instance once as it 'done'
    You aren't the only one, like ive said i haven't played wow in about 2 years. All im saying is something more meaty at endgame would have made this game much better. As it stands.. its kind of like skyrim with multiplayer.. which is still pretty cool i guess.


    Like i've said, i think most of what they've done with the game has been great. No need to get butt hurt people, its just an opinion of the "No endgame" model.


  • #1560
    VenomIreland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Created an Asura Necromancer yesterday, loving it so far.


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  • #1561
    lorimc
    Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭lorimc


    I went to buy the game today but they have suspended the digital downloads on the site. I went looking for a disc copy around Blanch but it seems to be unavailable in store too. Has anyone seen it in the city centre or know when it can be got for digital downloads again.


  • #1562
    IgsTer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭IgsTer


    lorimc wrote: »
    I went to buy the game today but they have suspended the digital downloads on the site. I went looking for a disc copy around Blanch but it seems to be unavailable in store too. Has anyone seen it in the city centre or know when it can be got for digital downloads again.

    Had the same problem mate. Gamestop in blanch only had the collectors edition left but they rang the charlestown store for me and luckly enough they had some not sure if I got the last copy so maybe give there a go or ring them? this was friday.


  • #1563
    Angeles
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭Angeles


    Ahh the things you can do in this game... Like an epic gladiator fight between daisy the cow and a worm!!!!



  • #1564
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Im half thinking of getting this but a few things worry me. Iv never really got the appeal of mmo's but iv never played on so its probably unfair to judge it (even thou the mechanics of mmo's aren't really appealing).

    Is 3mb broadband good enough?
    Do you have to join a group or is there a single player with the mmo ?
    Any videos showing the ins and out of game?

    I cant think of any other questions but any other advice would be very much appreciated


  • #1565
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    Guild wars is very different to any MMO out there.

    The combat is very different. In nearly every other MMO, everything is done under the hood. Dice rolls and numbers. While guild wars 2 has that, you can dodge. Warrior charging you? Roll out of the way. A guy shooting an arrow at you? Hide behind a tree. In other MMO's you would still be hit so dodging this viscerally is very enjoyable.

    The questing is different. In others, you go talk to an NPC and he will give you a task like kill 5 these or collect 10 of that. In guild wars, you wander into an area and just start doing the objective.

    Grouping is different as it happens organically with group quests where people in the same area fight for the same goal.

    Leveling is different. Everything gives experience. Killing, questing, crafting, exploring, Player vs Player combat, etc. Also, it automatically scales your level to suit the content. Missed a newbie area and want to do it? No problem, your level 80 character gets scaled down to level 10 for that area. It also means two friends can group together even if they are vastly different levels and still have fun.

    The player vs player combat is a more refined version of Warhammers. You take part in massive fort attacks against players from other servers. It's very grand in scale. And again, it auto levels you to 80 so you can join in the fun right from the start and not feel gimped.

    There is no subscription so I would recommend you try it. There isn't much risk. It has its flaws but it's the freshest MMO I've played in a while.

    Mobile broadband is rubbish in general so I hope you are on a fixed line. MMO's arent exactly twitch games though so you should be okay aslong as your ping is under 200. Eircom 3mb is more than enough.

    Regards the in's and outs, you will pick it up very quickly. If you roll a character on Gunnars hold server, I'd be more than glad to come help you at the start and show you some things. :)


  • #1566
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Sorry that is eircom 3mb broadband

    That is great helpful post Kirby, thanks alot


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  • #1567
    Kirby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    No problem. You might have trouble buying it on the main website as I think they have halted sales temporarily there due to the shere amount of people who have bought it. I'm sure other websites will sell it though.

    As for your starting character, I would recommend avoiding the small Asura guys. Their starting area is bat**** crazy and you will be confused enough as it is. :p

    Human might be the boring choice, but its the least alien.


  • #1568
    delta36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭delta36


    Headshot wrote: »
    Im half thinking of getting this but a few things worry me. Iv never really got the appeal of mmo's but iv never played on so its probably unfair to judge it (even thou the mechanics of mmo's aren't really appealing).

    Is 3mb broadband good enough?
    Do you have to join a group or is there a single player with the mmo ?
    Any videos showing the ins and out of game?

    I cant think of any other questions but any other advice would be very much appreciated


    Pretty much just backing up what Kirby said, you could play this entire game by yourself and never so much as speak to another person, but group ups will happen naturally as you're travelling through a map and take part in events (which are in essence quests).

    I haven't read through this, or seen the video, but the makers of the game made an online manual for new players, link here.

    This page will also give you an overview of the game.

    As far as internet speed goes, I can't really say as my internet speed alters a good bit, but the requirements for the game merely list broadband as a requirement. Bare in mind that if you're planning on buying a digital copy, the file size will be about 16 gigabytes, so if you're worried about your download speed I'd pick up a hard copy. Also currently, digital sales of the game from the Guild Wars 2 site have been suspended.

    In terms of the mechanics of MMO's not appealing to you, what specifically about them doesn't? This game, while an MMO, does do a few things differently to the more "traditional" MMO.


  • #1569
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    delta36 wrote: »
    Pretty much just backing up what Kirby said, you could play this entire game by yourself and never so much as speak to another person, but group ups will happen naturally as you're travelling through a map and take part in events (which are in essence quests).

    I haven't read through this, or seen the video, but the makers of the game made an online manual for new players, link here.

    This page will also give you an overview of the game.

    As far as internet speed goes, I can't really say as my internet speed alters a good bit, but the requirements for the game merely list broadband as a requirement. Bare in mind that if you're planning on buying a digital copy, the file size will be about 16 gigabytes, so if you're worried about your download speed I'd pick up a hard copy. Also currently, digital sales of the game from the Guild Wars 2 site have been suspended.

    In terms of the mechanics of MMO's not appealing to you, what specifically about them doesn't? This game, while an MMO, does do a few things differently to the more "traditional" MMO.

    That video was superb help, I really like the combat system

    Im not really a social player and I thought mmo's are very much a social community game, hence didnt think it would appeal to me


  • #1570
    delta36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭delta36


    Headshot wrote: »
    That video was superb help, I really like the combat system

    Im not really a social player and I thought mmo's are very much a social community game, hence didnt think it would appeal to me

    When you say not a social player, do you mean you don't like having to try and find someone to team up with to play? Or do you just dislike other real people being in your game? As I said above, you can play through this game without every being sociable, but you will end up playing with people, it's the way the game is designed.
    And just to point out, there are dungeons in the game which are designed to be tackled by groups of 5 players, but they are completely optional, and won't prevent you completing your story.


  • #1571
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    delta36 wrote: »
    When you say not a social player, do you mean you don't like having to try and find someone to team up with to play? Or do you just dislike other real people being in your game? As I said above, you can play through this game without every being sociable, but you will end up playing with people, it's the way the game is designed.
    And just to point out, there are dungeons in the game which are designed to be tackled by groups of 5 players, but they are completely optional, and won't prevent you completing your story.

    bit of both, but I dont mind teaming up with players for taking down a boss or somthing. (even thou I rather take it down by myself, more of a challenge)

    Maybe my opinions will change after a period of time playing the game


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  • #1572
    ShaneScouse
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭ShaneScouse


    Ive been noticing ive got a 100+ ping all day, I wish i had confirmation servers were in frankfurt lol. The US server time still makes me wonder


  • #1573
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    So its the same map in all the servers, that right?

    Are they UK servers?


  • #1574
    ArthurG
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    ShaneScouse wrote: »
    Ive been noticing ive got a 100+ ping all day, I wish i had confirmation servers were in frankfurt lol. The US server time still makes me wonder

    Stupid question, but where do you see your ping?. I haven't spotted it yet :o


  • #1575
    MikeyJoyce
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭MikeyJoyce


    Hey guys

    I'm wondering what are the requirements for a game to have it's on Sub forum.

    Most of the threads of the Massively forum seem to all be about Guild Wars 2 and I was wondering has any taught been given to a dedicated sub forum for the game?


  • #1576
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,213 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    We actually requested it already. Just waiting to see if it gets approved or not.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056734636&page=2


  • #1577
    Big Knox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    Kiith wrote: »
    We actually requested it already. Just waiting to see if it gets approved or not.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056734636&page=2

    Get on this guys and +1 it. It needs a sub-forum!


  • #1578
    reaper12
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭reaper12


    Well, I have been playing this game pretty solidly for two weeks now, I haven't touched another game. I am a human engineer at level 39 at the moment. For the most part I have concentrated on just doing the daily achievements and have partied a few times with some of the guild. Done a little exploring and a little crafting. Basically tried to get out there and experience everything the game has to offer.

    People seem to be in an awful rush to get to level 80. I don't understand that in this game. Over on another forum I see people giving out advise on how to get to level 80 the quickest, showing runs that will get you huge XP that you can do 2 or 3 times an hour. LOL I mean, come on!! that's boring grinding, and for what? so you can get to level 80 fastest and when you get there to find out that you are bored. I am not taking a dig at anyone who is at level 80, We have level 80 in the guild and he still seems to be enjoying the game. He will admit himself that he has a lot of time on his hands ;-) But I know to a lot of players they are still basing this game on other MMO's and playing that way.

    Like advising people to leave one vista or unexplored area in each map and come back to it at a later level to get more XP for it. LOL that's not playing the game, if I wanted my leisure time to be that planned out I would go back to work. And then some people just run through all the sites etc as quick as possible just to get 100% map completion but never stop to have a look around at all. There are so many cool and wonderful places to see and visit. I just think people are wasting a lot of the brilliance of this game in the rush to 80.

    The reason I bought this game is because of the what I read about it, that it wouldn't be a grindfest, that you wouldn't have to spend 6-7 hours a day playing to enjoy it. And so far it has been exactly as promised and I am really liking it.


  • #1579
    MikeyJoyce
    Registered Users Posts: 229 ✭✭MikeyJoyce


    reaper12 wrote: »
    The reason I bought this game is because of the what I read about it, that it wouldn't be a grindfest, that you wouldn't have to spend 6-7 hours a day playing to enjoy it. And so far it has been exactly as promised and I am really liking it.


    Well said!! GW2 is fantastic in that it doesn't require you to play 24 hours a day everyday to have fun. It allows you to play and have fun in the GAME and have a bit craic.

    I am 80 also but that's because i've played the **** out of it with lots of free time and have had an absolutely amazing time, Also now that i am 80 what has changed?

    Nothing! I'm still having an awesome time and its super fun but do you need to play 24 hours a day everyday? No!

    Here is a nice quote that apply here if you find yourself upset about the lack of content at 80.

    “And Owl said to Wolf, ‘Brother, all your hunting is for naught if your family dines alone.’ And Wolf returned to his cubs, for he knew that Owl was wise.”

    Take the game for what it is a game and a really fun one at that. Play it for fun and with mates and spend time away from it don't play it 24 hours a day everyday play it as you would a hobby and you will have a fantastic time.


  • #1580
    Welease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    reaper12 wrote: »
    People seem to be in an awful rush to get to level 80. I don't understand that in this game. Over on another forum I see people giving out advise on how to get to level 80 the quickest, showing runs that will get you huge XP that you can do 2 or 3 times an hour. LOL I mean, come on!! that's boring grinding, and for what? so you can get to level 80 fastest and when you get there to find out that you are bored.

    It depends on the type of game you want to play.. Some people prefer grinding over exploring.. so people don't particularily like pve (in any form), and some people in the case of fast levelling want to get out into open world pvp with a full skills list and level 80 armor, they couldn't care less what boss is in what dungeon.

    I'd rather take that path, and only pve when I know there is a specific drop or item that I "need" (term used losely) for pvp.

    No rights or wrongs in any path, thats why the game allows for different routes to whatever you end goal happens to be.....


  • #1581
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    reaper12 wrote: »
    People seem to be in an awful rush to get to level 80. I don't understand that in this game. Over on another forum I see people giving out advise on how to get to level 80 the quickest, showing runs that will get you huge XP that you can do 2 or 3 times an hour. LOL I mean, come on!! that's boring grinding, and for what? so you can get to level 80 fastest and when you get there to find out that you are bored. I am not taking a dig at anyone who is at level 80, We have level 80 in the guild and he still seems to be enjoying the game. He will admit himself that he has a lot of time on his hands ;-) But I know to a lot of players they are still basing this game on other MMO's and playing that way.

    Thats because most GW2 players arnt new to MMO's.

    Typically you blitz to max level and start on endgame content, and then use an alt to "experience" the levelling, although you pretty much experience it first time around.

    Its a bull**** fantasy the way some people portray people who level fast as " not appreciating the game" and all this jazz. When you are levelling of course your taking in the quests, the surroundings etc.

    Its just that you can sit down and do it for hours on end, unlike alot of people who are more casually focused.

    Levelling is fun and all, with some friends its great, but endgame is where every MMO is at. And its also a good indication of wether or not an MMO will make it past 40 days of lifetime.


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  • #1582
    ShaneScouse
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭ShaneScouse


    ArthurG wrote: »
    Stupid question, but where do you see your ping?. I haven't spotted it yet :o

    I use resource monitor


  • #1583
    caspa307
    Registered Users Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭caspa307


    ok so im lvl 9 and im on the unwelcome visitor mission, i got in through the motion detector using laugh and surprise, then i died, and now no matter what i do i cant get through this gate! :mad:


  • #1584
    delta36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭delta36


    So, the "Official" trailer was released earlier, definitely the weirdest trailer I've ever seen for a PC game. Stick with it at least, it's gets pretty epic for the final few moments.



  • #1585
    danthefan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭danthefan


    Just started playing this today, just wondering is there a boards.ie guild or anything like that going that accepts nubs? What server if so?


  • #1586
    delta36
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 921 ✭✭✭delta36


    danthefan wrote: »
    Just started playing this today, just wondering is there a boards.ie guild or anything like that going that accepts nubs? What server if so?

    You'll see from the character name thread that the majority of us are on the Gunnar's Hold server. There are two boards.ie related guilds that I know of, Celtic Incision (there's a thread about them here) and I think the other one is called Eire.


  • #1587
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    delta36 wrote: »
    So, the "Official" trailer was released earlier, definitely the weirdest trailer I've ever seen for a PC game. Stick with it at least, it's gets pretty epic for the final few moments.


    It's not weird, it just suck's total balls. It's like something that an advertising company would come up with back in the 80's


  • #1588
    IRL_Sinister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭IRL_Sinister


    danthefan wrote: »
    Just started playing this today, just wondering is there a boards.ie guild or anything like that going that accepts nubs? What server if so?

    Leave your name in the thread and you'll get an invite (Your actual character name, that is).


  • #1589
    IRL_Sinister
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭IRL_Sinister


    Oh, also, Digital Sales are back up for the relevant people/parties.


  • #1590
    Sephiroth_dude
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 80,755 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    caspa307 wrote: »
    ok so im lvl 9 and im on the unwelcome visitor mission, i got in through the motion detector using laugh and surprise, then i died, and now no matter what i do i cant get through this gate! :mad:

    Don't think I've done that yet,is everyone quest different or something?


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  • #1591
    Angeles
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭Angeles


    delta36 wrote: »
    So, the "Official" trailer was released earlier, definitely the weirdest trailer I've ever seen for a PC game. Stick with it at least, it's gets pretty epic for the final few moments.

    Seen this yesterday and serious thought it was a trailer for the secret world..
    talk about doing it wrong


  • #1592
    BKtje
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Anyone else having connection problems. Getting the old firewall error. Just back from holidays and was hoping to get some playtime in before work :(


  • #1593
    Welease
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    BKtje wrote: »
    Anyone else having connection problems. Getting the old firewall error. Just back from holidays and was hoping to get some playtime in before work :(

    Logged on atm.. no issues..


  • #1594
    BKtje
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,063 ✭✭✭BKtje


    Cheers, will try a reboot. Guess something interfering.

    EDIT: Sigh, still can't login. Was fine last week before I went on holiday.


  • #1595
    seven_eleven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭seven_eleven


    Just curious as to what gear/weapon specs rangers should be mostly using?


  • #1596
    Completionist
    Registered Users Posts: 1,115 ✭✭✭Completionist


    seven_eleven wrote: »
    Just curious as to what gear/weapon specs rangers should be mostly using?

    Well for explorable dungeons you should be stacking toughness/Vit and if possible some healing power, Outside of explorables anything goes as far as stats.

    As for weapons it is really personal choice, I prefer using an axe/war horn combo while exploring as it means tagging the most enemies and carry a greatsword as a backup for when I want to get in close, however I switch the greatsword for a longbow while doing instances as melee range is dangerous and a longbow is better single target dps than an axe.

    You should really just experiment with the different combinations and builds as I find the game is really well balanced with regard to weapons/traits which allows for far more diversity in options compared to most MMO's.


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  • #1597
    Big Knox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Big Knox


    seven_eleven wrote: »
    Just curious as to what gear/weapon specs rangers should be mostly using?

    Eh it depends really mate.

    In PvE you can't go wrong with the Longbow / Axe + Warhorn set-up.

    Buff yourself with the warhorn, apply bleed from the axe and then swap to longbow and open with your invulnurability (3) and burn down with rapidfire. Just remember to always stay at max range with the longbow to get the extra damage.

    Quickening is a fantastic utility for burst damage and you can't go wrong with Rampage as your elite. You can pretty much go classcannon spec and stack power / crit as your pets will take all the aggro.

    Remember a good 30% of your damage comes from your pet. Good PvE pets are the Lynx for pure damage and something tanky like a Bear or Jungle Spider.

    PvP is a completely different story however and alot of Rangers struggle. I have tried multiple builds and set-ups and the problem comes from the fact that the Rangers damage is mediocre compared to most classes. If you stack power, precision and crit damage to compensate you end up with no survivability.

    What does work great however is a Condition damage bleed stacking build using the shortbow / axe + warhorn. For it to work though you need to stack Condition damage as your main stat and use traits that complement it.

    With quickening, sharpening stone, your axe's bleed and then flanking with the shortbows auto attack you can get up to 25 stacks on your target in a few seconds and maintain it with the shortbow. If done properly it does crazy damage and allows you to have good survivability aswell. Lightning reflexes is also necessary to keep distance and break stuns.

    Use a wolf and Jungle Spider as pets as they have great CC. Keep them on rotation and make sure they are using their skills. For your elite skill you can go either Entangle or Rampage as they both work well. Entangle will allow you to get behind your target for valuable seconds and stack bleed with the shortbow and Rampage allows you to stay CC free for 20 seconds with a great damage buff so it's down to play style.

    The main thing is to keep moving, strafe around your target and try and get those stacks from the side and land the shortbows cripple and daze when they are up to help Kite.

    Edit: Here's the build if you want to check it out.

    http://www.gw2build.com/builds/simulator.php#1.6.10.4.0.21.0.0.0.0.133.144.142.145.152.9.4.29.0.0.0.392.394.400.408.414.417.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.30.30.5.5


  • #1598
    ShaneScouse
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭ShaneScouse


    Well after forgetting/not noticing to do any puzzles I was told by a mate about the 3 in lions arch and loved em. So googled the ones for the areas I already had done 100% (not how to do em, but where they are :P) and they're great craic.

    But my gawd the lorners pass and metrica province ones lol. Rage inducing.


  • #1599
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,135 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    For anyone interested, the boards.ie TS3 server is back up. There's a GW2 channel and if anyone wants to make sub-channels by all means do.

    Address: eurots1.gameservers.com:9107


  • #1600
    TheDoc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,137 ✭✭✭✭TheDoc


    Character name : Furyio


  • #1601
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,621 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I reckon im going to buy this game but im wondering where's the cheapest place to buy it?


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