Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

ZiabR · 24-10-2014 8:27am

Kirby wrote: »

Why kill the 20+? Ignore them, and go for the captain. You can take one down in about 7 seconds. Once he's dead, the rest flee in fear.

You have no choice but to take some of the smaller ones out before you can get clean strikes on the captain. Also they don't always flee, usually half of them will run but plenty stay to attack you after. Well that is what I have found anyway.

Kirby · 24-10-2014 9:31am

It's a lot easier to ignore the mob and just concentrate on the captain. They wont be able to hit you if you are quick and it's worth remembering you have invincible frames while vaulting over orcs.

The only ones you have to worry about are the hunters, as they sit on the fringes of the fight and lob spears. Kill them first and none of the melee guys pose a threat so you can concentrate on the captain.

Alternatively if you have the skill unlocked where you can use two combat finishers in a row, you can take our over 20 orcs in one go. Work a combo streak to around 30 hits. A+X to stun them all, followed by X+Y to kill the massive group. It works.

cruizer101 · 26-10-2014 10:08am

Cravez wrote: »

Have you tried a shadow strike and see if that injures him?

Also is his shield made of wood? If so you should be able to shoulder bash it to break it.

Alternatively what you could do is keep doing aerial stealth drops on him (or shadow strikes if they do injure him) until he is low health.

Also have you unlocked the fire arrow skill? Shooting him with one should get him panicked if he is afraid of fire and negate his immunities.

Shadow strike I havn't tried actually, must give that a go.

Has metal shield, immune to stealth so aerial drops don't work. Also the fire arrow because he is immune to ranged doesn't work.

He may just be one captain that ends up living, I mamaged to kill the warchief he was bodyguard for anyway, without having to kill him. I thought I might be able to get him then because he started fleeing, but Istill didn't seem to be able to grab him or that.

Skerries · 26-10-2014 11:01am

I found on a site where someone had posted their various save files at different stages so I am back playing this again and have just started the second stage

https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ft4xpcvzgm0ymqn/AADU7l3wAEhkTPVTsdnoBQmEa?dl=0

GottaGetGatt · 26-10-2014 11:37am

cruizer101 wrote: »

Shadow strike I havn't tried actually, must give that a go.

Has metal shield, immune to stealth so aerial drops don't work. Also the fire arrow because he is immune to ranged doesn't work.

He may just be one captain that ends up living, I mamaged to kill the warchief he was bodyguard for anyway, without having to kill him. I thought I might be able to get him then because he started fleeing, but Istill didn't seem to be able to grab him or that.

Just because their immune to stealth finishers doesn't mean it wont damage them.

DipStick McSwindler · 28-10-2014 10:40am

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Kylo Ren · 28-10-2014 1:35pm

My PS4 copy arrived today. It was sealed but I could hear the disc was loose.

I opened it up to find a 700mb CD-R.

WTF.

Hears6 · 28-10-2014 1:49pm

Keno wrote: »

My PS4 copy arrived today. It was sealed but I could hear the disc was loose.

I opened it up to find a 700mb CD-R.

WTF.

pics r gtfo, where'd you get the game from? :pac:

Generic Dreadhead · 28-10-2014 1:51pm

My birthday is approaching in 2 weeks, my sis said she'd get me a PS4 game.
Which should I go for:

Shadow of Mordor (I like Batman games and LOTR)
Alien Isolation (never played an Alien game)
TLOU Remaster (never played original, I liked new Tomb Raider and Uncharted Series)
Diablo 3 Ultimate Edition (I like couch co-op and BL2)

(I'll already definitely be getting Far Cry 4 as i have a €5 pre-order against it)

Sorry for repeat posts in each thread, I didn't want to create a decicated thread for something so small

Kylo Ren · 28-10-2014 1:51pm

Hears6 wrote: »

pics r gtfo, where'd you get the game from? :pac:

I'm not gonna bother as I could eeasily slip in a CD-R if I had one (I actually don't even have one in the bloody house!)

It was bought from Amazon. I'm contacting them now.

sweetie · 28-10-2014 2:02pm

Cormac... wrote: »

My birthday is approaching in 2 weeks, my sis said she'd get me a PS4 game.
Which should I go for:

Shadow of Mordor (I like Batman games and LOTR)
Alien Isolation (never played an Alien game)
TLOU Remaster (never played original, I liked new Tomb Raider and Uncharted Series)
Diablo 3 Ultimate Edition (I like couch co-op and BL2)

(I'll already definitely be getting Far Cry 4 as i have a €5 pre-order against it)

Sorry for repeat posts in each thread, I didn't want to create a decicated thread for something so small

Shadow of Mordor and Last of Us I thought were fantastic games. Not played the others yet. I think the last of us is about £25 on amazon and mordor is
going for about €40 second hand and about €45-50 delivered from uk. I'd say Alien is good but sounds frustrating enough, I'll wait for it to get cheap.

Kylo Ren · 28-10-2014 5:11pm

Keno wrote: »

I'm not gonna bother as I could eeasily slip in a CD-R if I had one (I actually don't even have one in the bloody house!)

It was bought from Amazon. I'm contacting them now.

A replacement will be here Thursday or Friday. Amazon have fantastic customer service.

Skerries · 28-10-2014 6:17pm

if there is an activation key it is probably used as well

LuckyFinigan · 28-10-2014 7:34pm

What's the story with captains coming back to life? I killed one of them 3 times and he kept coming back. Do you have to kill higher level ones a certain way to make sure they don't come back?

tok9 · 28-10-2014 8:45pm

Sorry to hear about that Keno but man I got some laugh from that.

How the hell did they manage that!

Kylo Ren · 28-10-2014 9:07pm

tok9 wrote: »

Sorry to hear about that Keno but man I got some laugh from that.

How the hell did they manage that!

I was flabbergasted when I opened it. The thing was perfectly sealed from what I could tell.

I'd say it was an employee at the factory who put the disc in before it was wrapped. Maybe there is a weighing system implemented when they leave the assembly line.

They could have at least given me a Blu Ray RW disc like...

DipStick McSwindler · 29-10-2014 2:45pm

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Corvo · 29-10-2014 8:18pm

LuckyFinigan wrote: »

What's the story with captains coming back to life? I killed one of them 3 times and he kept coming back. Do you have to kill higher level ones a certain way to make sure they don't come back?

Lob his head off with a combat finisher, though personally I came to love them coming back, remembering everything that had happened and becoming stronger and stronger. One guy I could barely recognise by the time we had finished our 4th fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmfNQp3f-FI

Very funny video of a streamer having unprecedented problems taking down a warchief.

Tipsy McSwagger · 29-10-2014 9:25pm

100% completed and it took 30 hours 29 mins

SeantheMan · 30-10-2014 1:31am

People are saying about just go for the captain all the time...but it doesn't work.

I have 1 guy......the last of 4 people you have to kill...the main captains....and he is surrounded by about 60 orcs at any time and a few captains.
He blocks basic attacks, he blocks the X+Y attack, he blocks the stun.
He can't be killed by stealth, is enraged by everything else....I've died a load of times to him.

I don't know if it's that I don't have enough info on him yet or that I'm not at a high enough level....I haven't really bothered with any of the main missions except Gollum twice....basically I'm getting that Orc up the ranks...and the part I'm at is to Kill 4 Captains or Generals or whatever they are. Killed 3 easy....but this guy made me rage.

I even went so far as to try headshot him about 20 times, but it was taking so long, and took so little health off him it wasn't worth it.
Then I went and stealthily killed nearly everyone in the vicinity....but as soon as we had to fight......infinite orcs came and just kept smashing into me with shields, spears, arrows....

Corvo · 30-10-2014 9:54am

SeantheMan wrote: »

People are saying about just go for the captain all the time...but it doesn't work.

I have 1 guy......the last of 4 people you have to kill...the main captains....and he is surrounded by about 60 orcs at any time and a few captains.
He blocks basic attacks, he blocks the X+Y attack, he blocks the stun.
He can't be killed by stealth, is enraged by everything else....I've died a load of times to him.

I don't know if it's that I don't have enough info on him yet or that I'm not at a high enough level....I haven't really bothered with any of the main missions except Gollum twice....basically I'm getting that Orc up the ranks...and the part I'm at is to Kill 4 Captains or Generals or whatever they are. Killed 3 easy....but this guy made me rage.

I even went so far as to try headshot him about 20 times, but it was taking so long, and took so little health off him it wasn't worth it.
Then I went and stealthily killed nearly everyone in the vicinity....but as soon as we had to fight......infinite orcs came and just kept smashing into me with shields, spears, arrows....

Have you unlocked the branding ability yet? If not I would suggest going further into the story until that is unlocked. Then maybe brand a lower, yet still powerful captain and ensure some form of betrayl ensues. This will distract the captain you are trying to fight and sometimes you can set up ambushes which remove his entourage from the battle altogether.

Be creative

Deano7788 · 30-10-2014 9:57am

Corvo wrote: »

Have you unlocked the branding ability yet? If not I would suggest going further into the story until that is unlocked. Then maybe brand a lower, yet still powerful captain and ensure some form of betrayl ensues. This will distract the captain you are trying to fight and sometimes you can set up ambushes which remove his entourage from the battle altogether.

Be creative

I think he has to complete this before he'll unlock it. It sounds like the mission where you have to kill the 4 warchiefs in the 1st area. He won't progress until he does.

Wossack · 30-10-2014 10:53am

no weaknesses you can exploit? or he afraid of anything?

Corvo · 30-10-2014 2:53pm

Deano7788 wrote: »

I think he has to complete this before he'll unlock it. It sounds like the mission where you have to kill the 4 warchiefs in the 1st area. He won't progress until he does.

True, could be that actually.

Can you jump over him and stun from behind?

Generic Dreadhead · 30-10-2014 5:19pm

Ok, i decided to ask for this for my Birthday now

Corvo · 30-10-2014 5:36pm

Cormac... wrote: »

Ok, i decided to ask for this for my Birthday now

You won't be disappointed I don't think. Very good game.

SeantheMan · 31-10-2014 6:09am

Deano7788 wrote: »

I think he has to complete this before he'll unlock it. It sounds like the mission where you have to kill the 4 warchiefs in the 1st area. He won't progress until he does.

It's this guy here

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/23968940563915415/BB881BA6CD20E3AA58D6F349F1A00357C05EC3A3/

GottaGetGatt · 31-10-2014 1:07pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

It's this guy here

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/23968940563915415/BB881BA6CD20E3AA58D6F349F1A00357C05EC3A3/

Easy ,Just shadow strike him, run away and rinse and repeat or go head to head and damage him on your execution streaks.

Faced a lad like that during the week and I had to brand him all the time while fighting the swarms of orcs, ended up killing him by accident with an execution because of all the lads around him. I just branded and a captain and had him go for the promotion.to me delight all he had to do was kill a caragor.i killed it and he got the promotion to war chief

Penn · 31-10-2014 2:35pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

It's this guy here

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/23968940563915415/BB881BA6CD20E3AA58D6F349F1A00357C05EC3A3/

Start off with a shadow strike. Then from behind him keep stunning and hitting a few times in a flurry (but not enough to finish the flurry or Combat Master will kick in), then stun again.

It'll be hard to get him alone to focus on him. Try leading him away from others. Looks like he'll track you down but his gang might not.

He definitely has a fairly lethal combo of strengths. Can see why you're having trouble with him.

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Easy ,Just shadow strike him, run away and rinse and repeat or go head to head and damage him on your execution streaks.

Execution streaks don't work on Combat Masters. Save the streaks for any other uruk/orcs who get involved.

who_me · 31-10-2014 6:45pm

Luck has a lot to do it too. I had to kill one Warchief in Durthang, but as I attacked him two other Captains (not his bodyguards) joined in, plus maybe 40+ Uruk and several caragors. I spent ages attacking/fleeing/trying to isolate the Warchief but eventually died.

A bit later I was wandering by the same area and stumbled across the same guy. Killed 2 or 3 Uruks, then finished him off simply.

Moral of the story, when things are going really badly.. run.

Sephiroth_dude · 01-11-2014 12:48am

who_me wrote: »

Luck has a lot to do it too. I had to kill one Warchief in Durthang, but as I attacked him two other Captains (not his bodyguards) joined in, plus maybe 40+ Uruk and several caragors. I spent ages attacking/fleeing/trying to isolate the Warchief but eventually died.

A bit later I was wandering by the same area and stumbled across the same guy. Killed 2 or 3 Uruks, then finished him off simply.

Moral of the story, when things are going really badly.. run.

Was his health back up to full when you found him again?

who_me · 03-11-2014 4:52pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Was his health back up to full when you found him again?

Yes - in fact he was one of those whose health regenerated pretty quickly even in a fight. But once I was able to focus on him without 20+ Orcs / Uruks trying to hit me it was very easy.

Then again, I never seemed to meet any Warchief with one-hit-kills - as in that video.

who_me · 03-11-2014 4:56pm

Don't know if this has been posted, but a big DLC pack is on the way: Lord of the Hunt

chrislad · 03-11-2014 5:30pm

I'm more or less finished with this now. I've a few trophies to tidy up, which I probably will for sake of completeness. I don't know if I care too much about the DLC, but I definitely enjoying the game, and looking forward to seeing if they can expand on it in the same way that Assassins Creed 2 was much better than the first.

ZiabR · 03-11-2014 5:48pm

chrislad wrote: »

I'm more or less finished with this now. I've a few trophies to tidy up, which I probably will for sake of completeness. I don't know if I care too much about the DLC, but I definitely enjoying the game, and looking forward to seeing if they can expand on it in the same way that Assassins Creed 2 was much better than the first.

850/1000 Gamerscore was enough for me. Loved the game but it was traded against Lords of the Fallen.

sweetie · 03-11-2014 5:57pm

who_me wrote: »

Don't know if this has been posted, but a big DLC pack is on the way: Lord of the Hunt

Sold my copy but might have to get it again in the future if both the DLC packs measure up!

Shiminay · 03-11-2014 6:05pm

So it looks like they're adding the "hunt all the animals for all the things" mechanics that Far Cry and various others have. Not surprising at all, but not unwelcome either.

My ideal DLC will be play as the Orcs and get yourself to War Chief whilst occasionally bumping into Talion or any of the other support characters for the main campaign and then running an alternate timeline thing where you march on Osgiliath

Danger781 · 07-11-2014 12:14am

Finally got to 100% this evening.. Was a bit tedious to get the hostage missions done..

mickydoomsux · 07-11-2014 12:47am

Been playing this on PC and it just isn't clicking at all.

Feels like one of the bad repetitive Assassins Creed games. I've seen it all after 4 hours and i just don't care about the game any more.

The Nemesis system is just guys who have killed you playing a sound clip that says "MUHAHAHAHAH, I KILLED YOU BEFORE!".

Just bored of it already.

Kirby · 07-11-2014 2:00am

Until you unlock branding (you wont have after 4 hours), the game doesn't open up.

Spunge · 07-11-2014 2:59am

Kirby wrote: »

Until you unlock branding (you wont have after 4 hours), the game doesn't open up.

Admittedly i wasnt bored by that time but once that was introduced it added a great fresh spin on the first part of the game and it was super fun.

Danger781 · 07-11-2014 8:46am

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Been playing this on PC and it just isn't clicking at all. I've seen it all after 4 hours and i just don't care about the game any more..

This pretty much summed it up for me after a while, but I was still determined to 100% it :pac: As the above said, I found I started to enjoy the game again when you can brand and I loved being able to ride Graug's

Corvo · 07-11-2014 9:12am

Finished this last night - not 100% like you hermits :pac: but the story.

With regards the ending -

it really let down the rest of the game. Such a disappointment.

mickydoomsux · 07-11-2014 11:12am

Gave it another shot this morning an got bored after 15 minutes.

Uninstalled. Just not my kind of game because i've played far too much similar stuff and the sidequests in this are the definition of tedious.

Danger781 · 07-11-2014 12:16pm

mickydoomsux wrote: »

the sidequests in this are the definition of tedious.

That much I can agree with.

Skerries · 10-11-2014 3:20pm

finally made it to 100% except for the trophies which got messed up when I had to use a different game save

.ak · 11-11-2014 1:52pm

Really fun game. As a LoTR fan I always enjoyed the emphasise Tolkien put into the the 'baddies', and this game really hits the nail on the head. Right down to the cockney accent for the Orcs, and also the the Orc/Uruk designs are far better in this than they were in the movies. There's obviously bit of an artistic license in there, some of the stuff is just completely made up, but for an arcade-style game it's really detailed. A lot of the stuff is lifted from the LoTR appendices too which is cool. I really like the whole Numenor angle as well, which wasn't really touched on in the movies.

Also the Wraith is brilliant, better than any of the other Elfish stuff from the movies too.

SeantheMan · 11-11-2014 4:47pm

The wraith's voice sounded so familiar...I thought it might be Garrus from ME3.
Checked out IMDB...not Garrus...but he did voice a few Turians in the ME series...

On another note...is this one of the few...if only games...with Troy Baker AND Nolan North voice acting in the game ?

.ak · 11-11-2014 5:12pm

Ha, yes he does have a very Turian vibe to him all together.

Penn · 11-11-2014 8:42pm

SeantheMan wrote: »

On another note...is this one of the few...if only games...with Troy Baker AND Nolan North voice acting in the game ?

The Last of Us. Nolan North was the voice of David.

Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

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