Ferguson Ariva 120 Users Thread

dodzy · 24-06-2012 9:14am

sher55 wrote: »

I installed a Ferguson 120 for someone yesterday connected it to a old vcr via scart as the person wants to record using the vcr and the recording comes out black and white any suggestions on whats gone wrong ?

Dodgy/incorrectly fitted SCART perhaps?

skydish79 · 24-06-2012 9:47am

darth_maul wrote: »

Seems the 120 is now out of stock in most places, with the ariva 150 now available in satsklep

Whats the main difference between the 2 models?

skydish79 · 24-06-2012 9:53am

lensman wrote: »

You don't actually install a patch, there is modified versions of the official firmware which has the cams patch embedded, when flashed to the box you have an extra menu where you configure cccam/newcam.
These patched firmware versions are usually released a few days after the official firmware release....I hear it's stable:cool:

Do you have a link to latest firmware with the cam patch?

jonnygee · 24-06-2012 1:12pm

sher55 wrote: »

I installed a Ferguson 120 for someone yesterday connected it to a old vcr via scart as the person wants to record using the vcr and the recording comes out black and white any suggestions on whats gone wrong ?

Try a prerecorded video film in the vcr and see if it also plays black and white, is vcr outputting a pal signal?

Galia · 24-06-2012 9:47pm

jonnygee wrote: »

Try a prerecorded video film in the vcr and see if it also plays black and white, is vcr outputting a pal signal?

I am going to bring one home with me this week and test the issue with a vcr i got . This is the 2nd time this issue has happened. Some people still want to record with there old trusty vcr. Both issues had the following setup Ferguson 120 mpeg4 box connected to vcr via scart and then connected back via scart to TV.

Is saorview encrypted in someway ?

zg3409 · 25-06-2012 12:24am

sher55 wrote: »

Is saorview encrypted in someway ?

B&W sounds like a worn tape or a worn VCR or a dodgy scart lead.

Tony · 25-06-2012 5:35pm

Maybe the output was changed, plugging the scart straight into a tv would be a good way of checking this

Galia · 25-06-2012 7:17pm

Tony wrote: »

Maybe the output was changed, plugging the scart straight into a tv would be a good way of checking this

Checked with 2 vcrs i have at hand both fine it must be the other vcrs fault.
thanks to everyone for there help.:)

theoneeyedman · 27-06-2012 7:14pm

Hi,
Apologies if i missed this earlier but do any of ye have a universal remote code for the 120, the ones o have dont work

stwome01 · 29-06-2012 11:10am

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Hi,
Apologies if i missed this earlier but do any of ye have a universal remote code for the 120, the ones o have dont work

For the "One For All" universal remote
VCR 2614
SAT 2638
However not all "One For All" universal remotehave this programmed into them.

stwome01 · 29-06-2012 11:11am

Seem to be a minor update on the firmware
http://www.ferguson-digital.eu/en/download/HD-Satellite-Receivers/ariva-120-combo/

A120Combo_2.18B4.zip

Submitted On: 25 June 2012 I haven't tried it yet though.

s_gr · 29-06-2012 11:13am

stwome01 wrote: »

For the "One For All" universal remote
VCR 2614
SAT 2638
However not all "One For All" universal remotehave this programmed into them.

I have a One for All 4 in 1 remote URC7140 which and be programmed with above codes by the one for all distributor MSE in Dublin if you send it to them.

The remote also allows the power on function to turn both tv and box on and off at the same time so tv remote can be left to one side. Very handy.

O'Prez · 30-06-2012 2:57pm

Lads if I stick a $ky card in this will I get a 7 day EPG for the channels?

STB · 30-06-2012 3:13pm

O'Prez wrote: »

Lads if I stick a $ky card in this will I get a 7 day EPG for the channels?

The 7 day epg has nothing to do with encryption.

O'Prez · 30-06-2012 3:16pm

Yeah I know but would a freeview card give me a 7 day EPG or just now and next? I'm just wondering because the Saorview EPG on the box greatly outshines the now and next functionality for the UK channels.

Compton · 30-06-2012 4:38pm

he just said it has nothing to do with the encryption..

O'Prez · 30-06-2012 5:34pm

...thanks for clarifying!

Tony · 30-06-2012 6:34pm

Basicially inserting a card has no bearing on the epg so if the box does not have a 7 day epg on FTA inserting a card will not change that.

O'Prez · 30-06-2012 6:40pm

Tony wrote: »

Basicially inserting a card has no bearing on the epg so if the box does not have a 7 day epg on FTA inserting a card will not change that.

Thanks Tony. That's all I wanted to know

Tony · 30-06-2012 6:41pm

O'Prez wrote: »

Thanks Tony. That's all I wanted to know

No problem.

Kristopherus · 01-07-2012 2:16pm

stwome01 wrote: »

Seem to be a minor update on the firmware
http://www.ferguson-digital.eu/en/download/HD-Satellite-Receivers/ariva-120-combo/

A120Combo_2.18B4.zip

Submitted On: 25 June 2012 I haven't tried it yet though.

Fancy new station numbers:)

Onikage · 01-07-2012 7:14pm

Kristopherus wrote: »

Fancy new station numbers:)

Any pics? Or is that tongue-in-cheek

Kristopherus · 01-07-2012 7:20pm

Onikage wrote: »

Any pics? Or is that tongue-in-cheek

Well, it was hardly worth their while. There's fancy 3-digit numbering of the channels and the yellow progress line is now positioned between Now & Next:D. There's nothing else that I've noticed.

Onikage · 01-07-2012 11:16pm

So, nothing worth ruining my neatly organised channel list over then

Kristopherus · 02-07-2012 9:05pm

Onikage wrote: »

So, nothing worth ruining my neatly organised channel list over then

Definitely not IMHO. I spent 3hrs re-arranging my channels afterwards:(

channelsurfer2 · 03-07-2012 3:56pm

still cant receive pick tv or its +1 on the ariva 120 as its in the 12.0xx range and for whatever reason on two receivers in 2 different houses it wont scan them in. before anyone says its an lnb problem they are coming in clear on an ex sky box with the frequencies added under other channels no problem... any ideas solutions? signal quality they are telling me is 40% with quality 10% on both ariva 120 boxes in the two houses..

snaps · 03-07-2012 3:58pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

still cant receive pick tv or its +1 on the ariva 120 as its in the 12.0xx range and for whatever reason on two receivers in 2 different houses it wont scan them in. before anyone says its an lnb problem they are coming in clear on an ex sky box with the frequencies added under other channels no problem... any ideas solutions? signal quality they are telling me is 40% with quality 10% on both ariva 120 boxes in the two houses..

try increasing or decreasing the channel freq by about .005 (if it's say 12.650 try 12.655 or 12.645)

Tony · 03-07-2012 4:53pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

. before anyone says its an lnb problem they are coming in clear on an ex sky box with the frequencies added under other channels no problem...

Just because they are coming in on a sky box does not mean its not an LNB problem. The oscillator on the lnb may be out of tolerance and the sky boxes are much more forgiving of this . Snaps suggestion is a good option to try

givecredit · 03-07-2012 4:59pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

still cant receive pick tv or its +1 on the ariva 120 as its in the 12.0xx range and for whatever reason on two receivers in 2 different houses it wont scan them in. before anyone says its an lnb problem they are coming in clear on an ex sky box with the frequencies added under other channels no problem... any ideas solutions? signal quality they are telling me is 40% with quality 10% on both ariva 120 boxes in the two houses..

Is there a DECT phone nearby. Pick TV, Sony TV and Sony Movies suffers with interference from DECT phones.

MenloPete · 04-07-2012 2:10pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

still cant receive pick tv or its +1 on the ariva 120 as its in the 12.0xx range and for whatever reason on two receivers in 2 different houses it wont scan them in. before anyone says its an lnb problem they are coming in clear on an ex sky box with the frequencies added under other channels no problem... any ideas solutions? signal quality they are telling me is 40% with quality 10% on both ariva 120 boxes in the two houses..

That reminds me... I had trouble finding this on my Ariva.
It shows up on 12168 V 27500, whereas Lyngsat et al say it is 12207

Is this a quirk of the Ariva?

channelsurfer2 · 04-07-2012 2:14pm

MenloPete wrote: »

That reminds me... I had trouble finding this on my Ariva.
It shows up on 12168 V 27500, whereas Lyngsat et al say it is 12207

Is this a quirk of the Ariva?

will try that tonight.. the other trick of changing the frequencey by .005 didnt work ( no dect phone nearby either.)

givecredit · 04-07-2012 3:09pm

MenloPete wrote: »

That reminds me... I had trouble finding this on my Ariva.
It shows up on 12168 V 27500, whereas Lyngsat et al say it is 12207

Is this a quirk of the Ariva?

If this fails, why dont you do a blindscan on all FTA channels. I have tuned Pick Tv into 3 arivas with no problem. One other ariva I cannot tune in Pick TV unless i switch off the DECT phone nearby.

channelsurfer2 · 04-07-2012 6:13pm

no success with either boxes in both houses. still showing signal level 40% quality 10% and even turned off the dect phones just to be sure..... ah well will just have to do without pick tv..

Gerry Wicklow · 04-07-2012 9:36pm

I vaguely remember hearing of this fault before a few years back. It turned out to be a error in the LNB settings. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable here can elaborate.
Mine (different make of box) is set as Universal 9.750/10.600

vkid · 04-07-2012 10:55pm

Didnt know I could get Challenge Tv and +1 or Pick TV and its +1 until I read this thread. Added Four7 this evening as well.
Any other channels worth adding for general entertainment.

Have all the main UK's, All the kids, News, Music but just wondering if there is any others worth adding. Any input appreciated

byte · 04-07-2012 11:18pm

I did tune up an Ariva 120 the other day, and that's exactly the issue I found. The LO setting was wrong with 10.700 instead of 10.600 for some strange reason.

It was a new box, and the only reason I found it is because I was searching for Sky News which didn't scan in.

WRT the new FW update, what changes have been made to the "numbers" - have they been made bigger? It's a bugbear I have with some combos, including the Triax, whereby people find it hard to see the small numbers onscreen when tapping in the numbers manually.

Kristopherus · 05-07-2012 12:12am

Yea, Byte, they are much bigger and are in a four digit format, with the yellow progress bar now between Now and Next.Nothing of any real value like updating the transponders on Astra 1N:(

micks_address · 05-07-2012 6:58am

Hi did you get sky news scanned in? I couldn't find it on my aunt's ariva yet everything else tuned fine. Also has anyone had an issue with the remote not working?

byte wrote: »

I did tune up an Ariva 120 the other day, and that's exactly the issue I found. The LO setting was wrong with 10.700 instead of 10.600 for some strange reason.

It was a new box, and the only reason I found it is because I was searching for Sky News which didn't scan in.

WRT the new FW update, what changes have been made to the "numbers" - have they been made bigger? It's a bugbear I have with some combos, including the Triax, whereby people find it hard to see the small numbers onscreen when tapping in the numbers manually.

channelsurfer2 · 05-07-2012 8:54am

byte wrote: »

I did tune up an Ariva 120 the other day, and that's exactly the issue I found. The LO setting was wrong with 10.700 instead of 10.600 for some strange reason.

It was a new box, and the only reason I found it is because I was searching for Sky News which didn't scan in.

WRT the new FW update, what changes have been made to the "numbers" - have they been made bigger? It's a bugbear I have with some combos, including the Triax, whereby people find it hard to see the small numbers onscreen when tapping in the numbers manually.

what is the LO setting? (what does it mean) can i change that to see if they can be received?

Tony · 05-07-2012 9:04am

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

what is the LO setting? (what does it mean) can i change that to see if they can be received?

LO = Local oscillator, basicially its part of the LNB function to down convert the high frequency satellite broadcast to a lower . frequency that can be carried by the coax cable . Its worth checking as Byte as pointed out.

dodzy · 05-07-2012 12:13pm

Tony wrote: »

LO = Local oscillator, basicially its part of the LNB function to down convert the high frequency satellite broadcast to a lower . frequency that can be carried by the coax cable . Its worth checking as Byte as pointed out.

Hey Tony,

so there's a 120 thread, a 150 thread, and now I just might add a 250 specific thread. Just to P1ss you off a wee bit, and take up more of your time.......:D

Tony · 05-07-2012 12:26pm

dodzy wrote: »

Hey Tony,

so there's a 120 thread, a 150 thread, and now I just might add a 250 specific thread. Just to P1ss you off a wee bit, and take up more of your time.......:D

I think its good to have specific threads to be honest as long as guys don't cross post . Its good to give something back

dodzy · 05-07-2012 12:38pm

Tony wrote: »

I think its good to have specific threads to be honest as long as guys don't cross post . Its good to give something back

My 250 left Germany at 7.00am today according to UPS tracker. I'll get a write up done once its unboxed. Interested to see if the 150/250 firmwares are cross transferrable, not that I'm keen on this area following the spate of incorrect updates from members on the 120 variant, added to the fact that the updates added little apart from the lipsync fix early on.

/back on "120" topic

Tony · 05-07-2012 12:41pm

It will be interesting to see what you think (on the new thread)

dodzy wrote: »

My 250 left Germany at 7.00am today according to UPS tracker. I'll get a write up done once its unboxed. Interested to see if the 150/250 firmwares are cross transferrable, not that I'm keen on this area following the spate of incorrect updates from members on the 120 variant, added to the fact that the updates added little apart from the lipsync fix early on.

/back on "120" topic

channelsurfer2 · 05-07-2012 12:50pm

where does one access the LO menu to change the settings?

iba · 05-07-2012 1:09pm

micks_address wrote: »

Hi did you get sky news scanned in? I couldn't find it on my aunt's ariva yet everything else tuned fine. Also has anyone had an issue with the remote not working?

Hi,

R u sure its the remote?

I had an issue with the Mother Board - the infra-red had gone - had to get the mother board replaced.

Regards

Iba

Gerry Wicklow · 05-07-2012 1:11pm

channelsurfer2 wrote: »

where does one access the LO menu to change the settings?

Look under "antenna setup"
You should see something like "LNB Freq"

The correct settings are" Universal 9.750 / 10.600 "

In some cases it seems this is wrongly set to 10.700

See page 18 of the manual.

http://www.tvtrade.ie/index.php?dispatch=attachments.getfile&attachment_id=118

iba · 05-07-2012 1:16pm

Hi,

Anybody got a clue why:

On my Humax STB I can pull in a few hundred channels from Badr 4 (26 degrees) but on my Ariva 120, I can only pull in 12 channels?

Regards

Iba

Gerry Wicklow · 05-07-2012 1:21pm

iba wrote: »

Hi,

Anybody got a clue why:

On my Humax STB I can pull in a few hundred channels from Badr 4 (26 degrees) but on my Ariva 120, I can only pull in 12 channels?

Regards

Iba

Did you try a blind scan rather than relying on the supplied channel list.

iba · 05-07-2012 1:30pm

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

Did you try a blind scan rather than relying on the supplied channel list.

Hi Gerry,

Yeah, I just did a full blind scan

Regards

Iba

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