Ferguson Ariva 120 Users Thread

Johnboy1951 · 15-06-2012 9:36am

1. Sound

I have the Ariva 120 feeding a TV which is not Saorview approved, but is capable of tuning the Saorview channels.
I mostly view channels only through the Ariva as only one remote is needed and all channels (Sat & Saorview) are on the one listing.
I have found though, that I need to have the audio volume of the TV turned up high (about 70%) to get sufficient volume when using the Ariva. Yet when I go to view a channel direct with the TV this nearly blows the speakers!
I am feeding the TV from the Ariva using a HDMI cable.

It appears that the audio output on the HDMI from the Ariva is very low ...... or there is some mismatch on my TV. Has any one else experienced anything similar?

It is probably a problem with the TV I suspect. I have found nothing in the menu that helps ..... Hannspree 42".

2. Tuner

Last night I was watching the soccer 'mis-match' and the pic from the Ariva was breaking up at time - it would go blocky for a few seconds.
I switched to viewing directly from the TV - after dropping the TV volume to about 25% from 70% - and had no more break-up.
Both are fed from one aerial through a passive splitter ( I did swop cables in case that might be the cause).

Would it be incorrect to deduce that the Ariva tuner is less sensitive that the TV receiver ...... or is it more likely that something else is the cause?

Thanks for you thoughts

dodzy · 15-06-2012 9:47am

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

1. Sound

I have the Ariva 120 feeding a TV which is not Saorview approved, but is capable of tuning the Saorview channels.
I mostly view channels only through the Ariva as only one remote is needed and all channels (Sat & Saorview) are on the one listing.
I have found though, that I need to have the audio volume of the TV turned up high (about 70%) to get sufficient volume when using the Ariva. Yet when I go to view a channel direct with the TV this nearly blows the speakers!
I am feeding the TV from the Ariva using a HDMI cable.

It appears that the audio output on the HDMI from the Ariva is very low ...... or there is some mismatch on my TV. Has any one else experienced anything similar?

It is probably a problem with the TV I suspect. I have found nothing in the menu that helps ..... Hannspree 42".

2. Tuner

Last night I was watching the soccer 'mis-match' and the pic from the Ariva was breaking up at time - it would go blocky for a few seconds.
I switched to viewing directly from the TV - after dropping the TV volume to about 25% from 70% - and had no more break-up.
Both are fed from one aerial through a passive splitter ( I did swop cables in case that might be the cause).

Would it be incorrect to deduce that the Ariva tuner is less sensitive that the TV receiver ...... or is it more likely that something else is the cause?

Thanks for you thoughts

1. There is a volume feature on the ariva. Use the supplied RC to turn it up to maybe 80% and leave it at that. Any further adjustments, just use your usual RC.

2. The Reception on RTE2HD on the ariva is not as good as either ( in my case ) the TV tuned RTE2HD or the UPC RTE2HD.

zg3409 · 15-06-2012 9:50am

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Would it be incorrect to deduce that the Ariva tuner is less sensitive that the TV receiver ...... or is it more likely that something else is the cause?

From your description it seems so. However sensitivity is not always a good thing. Too sensitive can pickup noise from nearby objects, such as mobile phones, baby intercoms etc.

RTENL recommend professional installers install the aerial and allow a 20dB signal margin above that needed. In other words the signal should be 100 times stronger than needed, to be sure of reliable reception at all times.

It seems as if the route cause is a weak signal arriving, improve the signal and the problems will dissapear.

Johnboy1951 · 15-06-2012 11:06am

dodzy wrote: »

1. There is a volume feature on the ariva. Use the supplied RC to turn it up to maybe 80% and leave it at that. Any further adjustments, just use your usual RC.

The Ariva RC IS the normal RC .... the TV volume is preset and channel changing and other controls are done on the Ariva.
It is only in situations like last night, that the TV's own tuner is used.

I have just checked a Silvercrest box into the Scart of the TV ..... and the same volume problem is present.

So it appears to be a TV problem ..... I will look again through the TV settings to see if there is anything which might ensure that different inputs produce similar volumes to the TV tuner.

2. The Reception on RTE2HD on the ariva is not as good as either ( in my case ) the TV tuned RTE2HD or the UPC RTE2HD.

Thanks for that.
A little more comforting to know I am not the only one who has experienced it.

Johnboy1951 · 15-06-2012 11:37am

zg3409 wrote: »

From your description it seems so. However sensitivity is not always a good thing. Too sensitive can pickup noise from nearby objects, such as mobile phones, baby intercoms etc.

No such problems exist on the TV.
The only experience I have here of such interference is the PC speakers picking up mobile phones 'phoning home'.

RTENL recommend professional installers install the aerial and allow a 20dB signal margin above that needed. In other words the signal should be 100 times stronger than needed, to be sure of reliable reception at all times.

Users are also told that if a very good signal is being received from an existing aerial, for TV3 & TG4, that the aerial won't need replacing.

The TV also has an analogue tuner which tunes in the present analogue stations without problems.

It seems as if the route cause is a weak signal arriving, improve the signal and the problems will dissapear.

Strangely it is only in the last week or so that this has occurred.

I will most likely replace the aerial next year when I upgrade the Sat dish and hopefully get a STB that is capable of Freesat and Saorview reception (by whatever means) .... the present Ariva can go to the kitchen or bedroom.

Thanks for the response.

hibble · 15-06-2012 4:28pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

1. Sound

It appears that the audio output on the HDMI from the Ariva is very low ...... or there is some mismatch on my TV. Has any one else experienced anything similar?

When viewing via the Ariva press the green "audio" button on the Ariva remote.
A mini menu consisting of 3 lines appears.
The bottom line can be toggled between LOW - NORMAL - HIGH
Select the preferred option.
Press exit.

Job done.

Johnboy1951 · 15-06-2012 8:53pm

Thanks ..... I had that set previously, but it had been reset somehow

In any case while watching the England game, I set the TV to normal listening level ..... 15% on the TV.

I then switched to the Ariva box, with the audio set to High as you described, and had to go full volume on the Ariva to get the same level of sound from the TV.

Of course that means no further upwards adjustment is available on the Ariva for any content that has quieter/lower volume levels.

Nonetheless, I can up the TV volume to about 40% and then have sufficient adjustment on the Ariva ..... but of course if the display is switched back to TV it is waaay too loud still.

Seems there is nothing much else I can do ...... but I will search again in the menu of the TV in case I can somehow boost the HDMI audio volume.

Thanks.

It BeeMee · 18-06-2012 12:52pm

I've an issue where the satellite channels don't always work - I'll get a "no signal" message. However, sometimes they'll start to work after 20 minutes or so, or if I play some recordings the channels will be there when I exit Play mode.

So then I thought my lnb might be dodgy. But I hooked up my old Lidl box and the channels work first time every time.

The other thing to mention is this problem seemed to start after a firmware update (2.18b2) but at the time I thought the dish had become misaligned after a partticularly windy night. However I since reverted to 2.15b5 and the problem remains.

Any suggestions?

zg3409 · 19-06-2012 12:21am

It BeeMee wrote: »

I've an issue where the satellite channels don't always work - I'll get a "no signal" message. However, sometimes they'll start to work after 20 minutes or so, or if I play some recordings the channels will be there when I exit Play mode.

So then I thought my lnb might be dodgy. But I hooked up my old Lidl box and the channels work first time every time.

The other thing to mention is this problem seemed to start after a firmware update (2.18b2) but at the time I thought the dish had become misaligned after a partticularly windy night. However I since reverted to 2.15b5 and the problem remains.

Any suggestions?

Sometimes ones box is more sensitive than another. The most likely cause is a weak signal caused by a misaligned dish. The one way to be sure is to try on another persons dish.

It BeeMee · 19-06-2012 12:01pm

Thanks for the suggestion zg
I'll bring the box home at the weekend and try it there.

mayojimjam · 19-06-2012 7:03pm

i bought 2 of these ferguson ariva 120 combos... spent a while sorting chanels on first one and putting them in the order I want... went to download info to memory stick and it goes all the way to 100% on yellow bar and "do not remove ..etc". the problem is it doesnt move on from there...i thought it might reboot or tell me that it has finished downloading but it doesnt.....

I tried anyhow to put data on other box and all it says is something about not allowed or something like that... any help ?? cheers

20/20 · 19-06-2012 11:04pm

It BeeMee I seem to have the same problem,have you tried to unscrew the coax from the back of the box when still powered on and then screw it back in again? it works for me but is a real pain in the arse.

seligehgit · 21-06-2012 4:45pm

Hi guys
Anybody any ideas where I can buy a 500 GB or 750 GB external hard drive which has an external power supply for Ariva 120 combo?
Selig

Johnboy1951 · 21-06-2012 5:53pm

komplett.ie
dabs.ie

lots of others too

daithi55 · 23-06-2012 2:59pm

just bought one of these boxes guys connected it to my sky dish and set aerial up in the attic alls working well did a scan and have all channels

but where im getting stuck is trying to sort the favourites out tried doing them myself with no luck
i was wondering if anyone would have a favourites list on here that will work on a box thats firmware hasnt been updated
theres a few at the start of this thread but not sure if i can use them

lensman · 23-06-2012 4:51pm

Your better off doing the FAV's with the remote, it's a pain in the arse but it might save trouble encountered if you use someone else's list, I believe you over write your firmware & personal settings when flashing a channel list to the ariva 120.
You could backup your current un-sorted list to a usb stick & use a channel editor to create FAV menus then flash it back to the box, problem is the official Ferguson editor is useless for this, I found a program called SetEditHD100_1.17 for (Ferguson Ariva) & it does everything you want but it's a trial version
http://www.mediafire.com/?dql336mx228thot

skydish79 · 23-06-2012 10:18pm

Has anyone put patch on it for cccam.

Is it stable?

lensman · 23-06-2012 10:39pm

skydish79 wrote: »

Has anyone put patch on it for cccam.

Is it stable?

You don't actually install a patch, there is modified versions of the official firmware which has the cams patch embedded, when flashed to the box you have an extra menu where you configure cccam/newcam.
These patched firmware versions are usually released a few days after the official firmware release....I hear it's stable:cool:

darth_maul · 23-06-2012 10:56pm

Seems the 120 is now out of stock in most places, with the ariva 150 now available in satsklep

Galia · 24-06-2012 8:37am

I installed a Ferguson 120 for someone yesterday connected it to a old vcr via scart as the person wants to record using the vcr and the recording comes out black and white any suggestions on whats gone wrong ?

dodzy · 24-06-2012 9:14am

sher55 wrote: »

I installed a Ferguson 120 for someone yesterday connected it to a old vcr via scart as the person wants to record using the vcr and the recording comes out black and white any suggestions on whats gone wrong ?

Dodgy/incorrectly fitted SCART perhaps?

skydish79 · 24-06-2012 9:47am

darth_maul wrote: »

Seems the 120 is now out of stock in most places, with the ariva 150 now available in satsklep

Whats the main difference between the 2 models?

skydish79 · 24-06-2012 9:53am

lensman wrote: »

You don't actually install a patch, there is modified versions of the official firmware which has the cams patch embedded, when flashed to the box you have an extra menu where you configure cccam/newcam.
These patched firmware versions are usually released a few days after the official firmware release....I hear it's stable:cool:

Do you have a link to latest firmware with the cam patch?

jonnygee · 24-06-2012 1:12pm

sher55 wrote: »

I installed a Ferguson 120 for someone yesterday connected it to a old vcr via scart as the person wants to record using the vcr and the recording comes out black and white any suggestions on whats gone wrong ?

Try a prerecorded video film in the vcr and see if it also plays black and white, is vcr outputting a pal signal?

Galia · 24-06-2012 9:47pm

jonnygee wrote: »

Try a prerecorded video film in the vcr and see if it also plays black and white, is vcr outputting a pal signal?

I am going to bring one home with me this week and test the issue with a vcr i got . This is the 2nd time this issue has happened. Some people still want to record with there old trusty vcr. Both issues had the following setup Ferguson 120 mpeg4 box connected to vcr via scart and then connected back via scart to TV.

Is saorview encrypted in someway ?

zg3409 · 25-06-2012 12:24am

sher55 wrote: »

Is saorview encrypted in someway ?

B&W sounds like a worn tape or a worn VCR or a dodgy scart lead.

Tony · 25-06-2012 5:35pm

Maybe the output was changed, plugging the scart straight into a tv would be a good way of checking this

Galia · 25-06-2012 7:17pm

Tony wrote: »

Maybe the output was changed, plugging the scart straight into a tv would be a good way of checking this

Checked with 2 vcrs i have at hand both fine it must be the other vcrs fault.
thanks to everyone for there help.:)

theoneeyedman · 27-06-2012 7:14pm

Hi,
Apologies if i missed this earlier but do any of ye have a universal remote code for the 120, the ones o have dont work

stwome01 · 29-06-2012 11:10am

theoneeyedman wrote: »

Hi,
Apologies if i missed this earlier but do any of ye have a universal remote code for the 120, the ones o have dont work

For the "One For All" universal remote
VCR 2614
SAT 2638
However not all "One For All" universal remotehave this programmed into them.

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