Gamsat 2012

DeadEight · 21-05-2012 6:41am

Roger_that wrote: »

Still waiting to see if 62 is good enough for UCD!

Based on last years round zero, a 62 will get you your place. At the RCSI open day they said that a 61 was a secured place in all but name.

http://www2.cao.ie/points/GraduateMedicine2011-Round-0.pdf

Jammyc · 21-05-2012 6:41am

Just checked there, got 65 which Im delighted with!:D

Congratulations to all!

cliodashe · 21-05-2012 7:02am

Thanks Sarah1379,
I know its all speculation but what is the best way of predicting whether 54 will get me into UL or not. Anybody good at stats or general psychic-ness?

Do people reckon cut-off will go up from last year?? Hope not

Sarah1379 · 21-05-2012 7:12am

Cliodashe, The best way to predict cutoffs would be to know how many people took the gamsat for Irish entry. But I don't know how to find that out. Then check that against places available and use the percentile curve to see what unis will need to set their cutoffs at in order to fill their places.

So if say 700 people sat gamsat ie or elsewhere for ie entry. Say there are total 150 places available ( just making up figures here). Then (150/700) x 100 = 21%. Thus unis would in theory offer places to those with a score from 80th percentile and up.

Insert actual figures and I'd imagine it's a good way to predict. However I lack actual figures

DeadEight · 21-05-2012 7:19am

I don't think any amount of stats could help with this prediction. Crystal ball is your best bet.

Previous years round zero cut-offs are below:

2011 2010 2009
UCC 57* 60* 59*
UCD 59* 61* 60*
UL 54* 57* 57*
RCSI 60* 64 61

jtsuited · 21-05-2012 7:24am

well done folks. someone post the curve please?

Jammyc · 21-05-2012 7:28am

jtsuited wrote: »

well done folks. someone post the curve please?

EngDoc · 21-05-2012 7:40am

Longtime lurker...I'm sure there are more out there!
Somehow pulled a 59 out of the hat.

Looks like UCD is going to be a gamble, no good ever comes of those asterisk symbols!

Out of interest...is everyone else out there 100% percent sure they want to start out on this journey? Hope I'm not the only person with doubts!

Hard luck to anyone out there who didn't get the score they were looking for, probably of little comfort right now but there's always next year!

DeadEight · 21-05-2012 8:48am

EngDoc wrote: »

Out of interest...is everyone else out there 100% percent sure they want to start out on this journey? Hope I'm not the only person with doubts!

What, leave a secure, well paying job to study longer and harder than ever before, be saddled with debt, and deal with the time dilation field that is the HSEs implementation of the EWTD? Not to mention my age at graduation, and that I will only see my family for about 2 days a year for the next 10 years.

Excited, yes.

Sure, no.

Roger_that · 21-05-2012 8:55am

Looking at the curve it seems that the Irish exam was harder than London 2011 or people just scored generally higher than London cuz 62 was in the 85th percentile there but on the Irish curve its in the 92nd. Did anyone do both and can they add anything to that?

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 8:57am

got a 55, pretty happy with it to be honest, as i thought i failed badly, wonder will it be enough for limerick! god only knows how i passed the science section!

SmileyRK · 21-05-2012 9:18am

I know people have been reporting results of 60+ but i just looked and got a score of 55 and I'm DELIGHTED!!!!!!!!!! Depending on whether the score for UL rises (hope to GOD not) I could be in med school this time next year!!!!

Considering I was in 4th year, had a trillion projects to do and no time to prepare, I'm pretty chuffed

Grats everyone, I have my fingers crossed for ye!!!

Anyone know if the offers are out in August?? That is going to be painful waiting

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 9:25am

congrats might be seeing you there!

i know from the PD forum that the general scores seemed to be down from previous years but i don't know!

Captain1888 · 21-05-2012 9:25am

Smiley You have cheered me right up... I was slightly down in the mouth about the 55 that i got but you turned the tide for me... cheers for that!! Fingers crossed... now we play the waiting game!

Captain1888 · 21-05-2012 9:26am

dmccormack01 wrote: »

congrats might be seeing you there! i know from the PD forum that the general scores seemed to be down from previous years but i don't know!

whats a PD forum?

Flange/Flanders · 21-05-2012 9:27am

@Smiley, DMcCormack and Captain.....

here's to possible UL colleagues in September!! Got 56 that i was slightly down about but as I said to someone on the day, I'd snap their hand off there and then for UL!

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 9:27am

paging doctor forum, the australian gradmed forum, literally thousands of gamsat`ers on there!

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 9:29am

im also slightly torn as i wanted to work for another year to save so i wouldnt have to get the dreaded loan! but guess ill wait and see and if i get an offer make the big decision!!

does anyone know when offers are made?? i assume it not till late july as the grads from this year don't have to send in their documents until july 15th

Stephan Grundy · 21-05-2012 9:31am

66 for me - shocked, in the best possible way, to have gotten a 55 on the sciences section, as I was (a) high on a very large dose of Lomotil, having gotten a grievous revolution of the bowels during sections 1 and 2, and (b) after intensive study, recognised hardly anything that appeared on the test.
But 66, I think, means I probably don't have to retake the effing thing next year, and will be hopefully meeting a bunch of ye next year when 2013 classes start.
Thanks all for listening to and sharing my pre-results panic - it would have been a lot tougher waiting without the lot of ye to complain to!

SmileyRK · 21-05-2012 9:36am

Happy to be able to cheer people up

I'm hoping that UL doesn't rise considering theis climate. People may not have the moolah to do the course and so we can get in

Chuffed for everyone on here!! seems that we all did really well. Lads, the main thing is that we sat the monster of a test once

Time to celebrate until offers come out, I think that gives about 2 months, maybe 3 of drunkenness

GOING4BROKE · 21-05-2012 9:52am

Got score of 55 pretty devastated if Im honest seeing as I got a score of 56 in london. A lot of hours put in and a lot of hours wasted. Was hoping to stay in Dublin but that is well and truly out of the question now.

Does anyone know where the second round offers ended up last year?

:(56 puts me in the 70th Percentile but after the Heineken cup I cant go begin going seeing what that means for me.

Congrats to everyone is if pleased with their scores.

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 10:03am

when people are sending in their documents by july 15th. do you include a cetified parchment if you have it by the time or does the university contact your institution directly to confirm your qualification??

Sarah1379 · 21-05-2012 10:11am

dmccormack01 wrote: »

when people are sending in their documents by july 15th. do you include a cetified parchment if you have it by the time or does the university contact your institution directly to confirm your qualification??

No you need to send it in. AFAIK anyway. Give em a buzz.

natsnats · 21-05-2012 1:13pm

Was delighted with my score of 56 considering that I had absolutely no time to look over anything before sitting the test. With a background in biomedical science I've already shared lectures with meds in UCD and have done a lot of biochem and pharmacology within my degree so hoping that UL won't be too much of a challenge if i'm lucky enough to get in. Would love to be returning to UCD but I can't justify spending a year repeating for just a few more points.

Gordonia · 21-05-2012 1:15pm

SmileyRK wrote: »

Happy to be able to cheer people up

I'm hoping that UL doesn't rise considering theis climate. People may not have the moolah to do the course and so we can get in

In fairness, I don't think having or not having the moolah really changes the figures much - I mean the vast majority of people don't just have 100G lying around and everyone gets the loan anyway. Even if you saved for a year or two it wouldn't make much of a dent in the GIANT DEBT!! But we try not to think about that! Having said that, having some savings tucked away would make things a bit easier. It's hard to make the loan last for the 10 months if you have no other financial support. And when it comes to the summer, you're pretty much living on thin air.

Well done on your results everyone! Might see some of ye in here Limerick in September! :eek:;)

Ps the CAO offers for Med came out on the 4th of August last year.

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 1:18pm

yea i really hope a 55 is enough to get me into UL, if i got an offer dont think id bother repeating just for the sake of getting into ucd....5 years doing architecture in ucd is enough for any man!

Intern places are assigned on the basis of how well you do in your med degree not on what school you went to so all good!

does anyone have any links to UL first year reviews by previous students?? ive seen some ucd and rcsi ones knocking about!

insanity50 · 21-05-2012 1:18pm

SmileyRK wrote: »

Happy to be able to cheer people up

I'm hoping that UL doesn't rise considering theis climate. People may not have the moolah to do the course and so we can get in

Chuffed for everyone on here!! seems that we all did really well. Lads, the main thing is that we sat the monster of a test once

Time to celebrate until offers come out, I think that gives about 2 months, maybe 3 of drunkenness

If you thought GAMSAT was tough you're in for a long road ahead of you mate.

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 1:20pm

insanity50 wrote: »

If you thought GAMSAT was tough you're in for a long road ahead of you mate.

do the words drinking, fire and hose come to mind?

Eimz_T · 21-05-2012 1:22pm

Hey, been lurking here for a while and especially in the past few days.

I got an overall score of 62 which I'm delighted about, and I think it should be enough for my first choice UCC unless it comes up a good bit. It hasn't really sunk in yet, I was expecting the worst especially after the disaster that was section 3, it seems section 2 saved me.

Does anybody have a link to the first round points from 2011? I can only seem to find the median and final offers online.

Congrats to everybody who is happy today, hope to see some of you in UCC in September!

nailer23 · 21-05-2012 1:44pm

hey guys, well done on he gamsats and good luck with the offers.
I am a 1st year in UCC and part of the peer support service to get ye up and running for next year. we have set up a facebook group for the UCC gand so if you have it down and tink you will get in we can answer any questions you have etc.

the only thing that i ask is that you refrain from making it a discussion board relating to th GAMSAT

here is the link https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/238966992870758/
feel free to add yourself.

this will be handed over to ye next year as the official class page.

most questions from the irish students can be diected towards Damien or Aisling

best of luck again in august

cliodashe · 21-05-2012 1:46pm

Hi, just torturing myself looking at threads online, could anybody clarify whether the minimum was 54 or 56? It says 54 on the website and 56 on the ul website.

nailer23 · 21-05-2012 1:48pm

as regards points last year http://www.cao.ie/index.php?page=points&p=2011 first round

Gordonia · 21-05-2012 1:54pm

cliodashe wrote: »

could anybody clarify whether the minimum was 54 or 56? It says 54 on the website and 56 on the ul website.

It was 54* for UL last year.

TBH I'd say they left it at 56 on the website cause they were a bit embarassed...!

cliodashe · 21-05-2012 1:54pm

Thanks nailer23, so u reckon cao are most correct? How could UL have the wrong points on their website? Weird, might e mail them. Having only got 54 I am quite the nervous nelly in regards to this disparity!!!:eek:

Flange/Flanders · 21-05-2012 1:57pm

Bit of idle speculation here but just comparing the percentile curve this year to last years, the curve is much steeper this year meaning that results are lower (Due to harder exam or less people did it this year - knew that maths degree wouldnt be totally wasted

). Even last years highest score was around 76, this years is around 72. So on that basis, scores could fall in august....

https://gamsat-ireland.acer.edu.au/results/normInfo.php?yr=2011

cliodashe · 21-05-2012 1:58pm

Thanks goronia, how definite are u? Did u get in on 54 or know someone that did? I hope they keep it at 54 and remove that asterisk!! That would make me very happy! Fingers crossed!

dmccormack01 · 21-05-2012 2:01pm

i heard someone got a place with a 52 in limerick last year! how reliable that info is i don't know!

insanity50 · 21-05-2012 2:07pm

cliodashe wrote: »

Thanks goronia, how definite are u? Did u get in on 54 or know someone that did? I hope they keep it at 54 and remove that asterisk!! That would make me very happy! Fingers crossed!

There is a person in first year who got in on 51 which I know for fact.

I also heard of two other students who got in on 50, but I don't know them personally just heard the ''whispers'' and the ''finger pointing''

You'll all love UL.

Tough course, but you'll be the better for it.

Gordonia · 21-05-2012 2:07pm

cliodashe wrote: »

how definite are u?

I'm definite - I know people that got 54.

Didn't hear of anyone getting lower though, so 52 may be a rumour...

Gordonia · 21-05-2012 2:10pm

insanity50 wrote: »

There is a person in first year who got in on 51 which I know for fact.

I also heard of two other students who got in on 50, but I don't know them personally just heard the ''whispers'' and the ''finger pointing''

You'll all love UL.

Tough course, but you'll be the better for it.

Are you sure? I haven't heard of anyone getting in on less than 54.

And at the open day, someone asked what the cut-off was last year and they said 54.

insanity50 · 21-05-2012 2:12pm

Gordonia wrote: »

Are you sure? I haven't heard of anyone getting in on less than 54.

And at the open day, someone asked what the cut-off was last year and they said 54.

Yeah. the third round offers went down quite low and don't think they ever got publicised.

I have a friend in first year who got in on 51.

cliodashe · 21-05-2012 2:17pm

Thanks for your help everyone, gives me a little bit of hope, I guess all I can do now is keep the fingers crossed and hope for the best

Gordonia · 21-05-2012 2:19pm

insanity50 wrote: »

Yeah. the third round offers went down quite low and don't think they ever got publicised.

I have a friend in first year who got in on 51.

I'm surprised to hear that. They're obviously keeping it quiet.

I dunno if people should be getting their hopes up too much all the same. If people did get in on less than 54 it must have been a seriously random selection. Like if someone got in on 51, everyone on 52 or 53 would have gotten in, right? Or maybe there were special circumstances involved?

Like I said, I haven't heard of anyone in my class getting less than 54, but then again people don't tend to go around asking each other. I only know what a few people got.

Reality_Check1 · 21-05-2012 2:19pm

I heard people got into UL with a score of 50 last year but that is more than likely is just idle speculation. Its at 56 on the UL website because Id imagine they want to be taken semi seriously and they get a hard enough time as it is without giving people more ammunition.

This is my opinion on the curve (by no means definite

)

if you came in the 90th percentile you will get your first choice so anyone with a 60+ is laughing.

Now based on the curve distribution and taking into account the amount of places available its the top 25% that will get in so a score of 56 is required. However not everyone with a score of 56+ will accept their place - some will resit to get a preffered college. In that case being in the top 40% MIGHT get you in i.e. a score of 54.

No disrespect to UL but more people reject that college than any other so People sitting on 54 that want UL will probably have to hope others reject it so a spot opens up. It didnt happen in the first few years but the emerging stories over the last while mean more people have repeated instead of going there meaning lower scores get in.

Really best of luck to everyone hoping for a spot and congrats on the great results

jtsuited · 21-05-2012 2:25pm

Flange/Flanders wrote: »

Bit of idle speculation here but just comparing the percentile curve this year to last years, the curve is much steeper this year meaning that results are lower (Due to harder exam or less people did it this year - knew that maths degree wouldnt be totally wasted ). Even last years highest score was around 76, this years is around 72. So on that basis, scores could fall in august....

https://gamsat-ireland.acer.edu.au/results/normInfo.php?yr=2011

i doubt it. curve looks much the same in the business end of 90th to 80th percentile.

jtsuited · 21-05-2012 2:28pm

if you got 60+ you will get somewhere in dublin definitely. without a doubt. you can quote me on that. go get drunk and enjoy the next 3 months. come september you'll be envious of people doing the gamsat.

Flange/Flanders · 21-05-2012 2:34pm

jtsuited wrote: »

i doubt it. curve looks much the same in the business end of 90th to 80th percentile.

I still think they'll fall by a point in most colleges...

CiMaster · 21-05-2012 2:46pm

Does anyone know the start date for UCD? I know RCSI's is about the 12th of Sept (correct me if i'm wrong) ... think i heard UCD was way earlier..? Looking at booking a wee holiday... well you know, its been a very stressful year

Sidenote: cheers to everyone who has contributed to this forum over the last couple of months. Having no peers doing the exam and living abroad it has been indispensible for me. I would lurk on late at night and get comfort in hearing how everyone else was feeling miserable and scientifically inadequate too. Stopped me from throwing myself off the brooklyn bridge at times. Congrats to all today!!

(to those of you that are disappointed, i got 55 last year but never planned on taking course as wanted to save another year, went up to 61 this year so improvement is do-able. A doctor told me ages ago, if you want to be a doctor bad enough, you'll make it happen. Keep at it

)

cliona88 · 21-05-2012 3:10pm

hey guys. im pretty gutted, sitting on a score of 53. I think I'm gonna book gamsat for london in september. In the meantime, I'm gonna get myself a lot of physics and chemistry grinds and maybe some essay writing ones too. I know it's possible that the points could drop and I could get offered a place in UL, but Im afraid that I wouldn't handle the pbl very well. My science is very poor and I wouldnt want to risk failing. I noticed people have said that UL could possibly be embarrassed by their low entrance requirement. They have the greatest number of places available and therefore scores are bound to be lower. I don't think we should judge the quality of the course based on their entrance requirements.
I wonder how those people who got in the low 50's are getting on in UL? Anyways, the only consolation that i have is that i'm only 21 so another year of working won't do me any harm!

GOING4BROKE · 21-05-2012 3:11pm

I have forgotten how the whole CAO offers system works. Is it initially the first round offers then a few days later the second round based on those who do not accept their place?. If this is the case does any asterisk beside a number not mean the final round of offers?

Does any one have an opinion on the lower numbers who sat the test this year and what that will do to the final entrance scores?

Gamsat 2012

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