Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

Noxegon · 28-01-2016 5:43pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

dear god YES! this route trumps any for me...

Trump Casino is in Atlantic City rather than Vegas.

28-01-2016 6:06pm

Nothing firm yet just that it is one of the routes that Aer Lingus want to start in 2017.

Another is Beijing. Most likely another east coast route as ASL have their eyes on another 757. new one in Shannon is getting winglets and new RR engines.

smurfjed · 28-01-2016 6:16pm

Another is Beijing.

Seriously? Is there enough of a market for point-to-point services?

JCX BXC · 28-01-2016 6:20pm

smurfjed wrote: »

Seriously? Is there enough of a market for point-to-point services?

China is a major trading partner despite the recent downturn in their economy.
It was fiercely argued before that a Knock-Beijing route was viable (Wonder where that is hmm), so DUB is nearly guaranteed to have a massive market for that route.

Jokes aside, there's alot of Chinese citizens here and lots of trading done with China, so a route would probably be viable.

donvito99 · 28-01-2016 6:31pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

It was fiercely argued before that a Knock-Beijing route was viable

By Our Lady herself no doubt.

Zonda999 · 28-01-2016 7:55pm

I would think a Chinese destination is viable at Dublin but to be honest, I think a Chinese airline would be able to make a better go of it, Air China send many A330-200's to Europe, which would be perfect for the route I would think. Would amount to another one-stop option for Irish people going to SE Asia or Australasia too, which could only be a good thing

28-01-2016 8:15pm

smurfjed wrote: »

Seriously? Is there enough of a market for point-to-point services?

Apparently, and not necessarily for next year but South America and India are also key destinations for IAG for Dublin. I believe the aim is to set up these routes and then feed UK/IRL pax through Dublin rather than have them go through Heathrow or other hubs in Europe.

I imagine that's why Cathay and Qatar (if they stay in IAG)are looking at starting Dublin so they can keep passengers either within IAG or One World Alliance.

LeakRate · 09-02-2016 4:16pm

Not a new route, or operator, however, United airlines will be operating double daily Newark year round, with the UA23/22 and UA130/131 from April.

JCX BXC · 09-02-2016 5:13pm

Going from Double Daily only in the summer?

Jamie2k9 · 09-02-2016 5:15pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Going from Double Daily only in the summer?

2 daily 26 May-19 November, followed by 13 weekly thereafter.

Tenger · 09-02-2016 5:40pm

LeakRate wrote: »

Not a new route, or operator, however, United airlines will be operating double daily Newark year round, with the UA23/22 and UA130/131 from April.

Thats gonna clean up before EI start their DUB-EWR route in Sept

blackdog2 · 09-02-2016 8:57pm

smurfjed wrote: »

Seriously? Is there enough of a market for point-to-point services?

I'd be skeptical of that myself. Hong Kong or Singapore make for more logical destinations, and with transit too. The fact that visas are required for Beijing make it a pain for point to point, while the regular delays due to most of the airspace being on lockdown for the airforce don't help transit one bit.

Zonda999 · 09-02-2016 9:59pm

blackdog2 wrote: »

I'd be skeptical of that myself. Hong Kong or Singapore make for more logical destinations, and with transit too. The fact that visas are required for Beijing make it a pain for point to point, while the regular delays due to most of the airspace being on lockdown for the airforce don't help transit one bit.

I agree, and I think Hong Kong would be the best of all.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=dub-syd

Its almost on the great circle route from DUB to SYD and had a myriad of connections to that region.

Assuming, we're not just talking about Ei starting any of these potential routes, its worthy of note that Cathay Pacific recently began service to MAN and have announced LGW, perhaps they'll consider DUB at some point

Noxegon · 09-02-2016 10:33pm

blackdog2 wrote: »

I'd be skeptical of that myself. Hong Kong or Singapore make for more logical destinations, and with transit too. The fact that visas are required for Beijing make it a pain for point to point, while the regular delays due to most of the airspace being on lockdown for the airforce don't help transit one bit.

You no longer need a visa to transit Beijing - you can get 72 hours on arrival.

BuffyBot · 10-02-2016 1:41am

I imagine that's why Cathay and Qatar (if they stay in IAG

Oneworld? Neither are part of IAG, though Qatar owns a share in IAG.

Cathay won't give a damn was IAG want/do. Long term bad blood between them and BA. They'll do whatever suits them, and them alone frankly

IQO · 10-02-2016 3:43pm

Interesting; Skyscanner-anna.aero “Unserved Route of the Week” is Dublin-Miami with 60,000++ searches in 2015 – one for Aer Lingus?

60.000 searches on Skyscanner in 2015 for the Dublin to Miami route;

737max · 10-02-2016 4:25pm

6500 x 2(assuming couples travel) = 13000 % 52 weeks = 250 people.
Most will want to travel in Summer I'd guess. looks like a marginal route based on those stats and as the majority are looking to fly from Dublin it isn't in Ireland's interest to promote this flight although nothing should be done to disincentivise people holidaying where ever they damn well please.

JCX BXC · 10-02-2016 4:30pm

737max wrote: »

as the majority are looking to fly from Dublin

Well if you put in Dublin into the search engine, your usually looking to fly from there!
That search wouldn't include figures for SNN,ORK,NOC,BFS,BHD, so the actual market would likely be bigger, although its also worth point out just because someone searches the flights doesn't mean they will book them.

IQO · 10-02-2016 5:06pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Well if you put in Dublin into the search engine, your usually looking to fly from there!
That search wouldn't include figures for SNN,ORK,NOC,BFS,BHD, so the actual market would likely be bigger, although its also worth point out just because someone searches the flights doesn't mean they will book them.

It's also only taking in consideration the searches for this route on Skyscanner, none on any other booking site - so I think there would definitely be some potential. Miami could as well be used as a good connection airport into central America/southern United States.

MICKEYG · 10-02-2016 5:48pm

IQO wrote: »

It's also only taking in consideration the searches for this route on Skyscanner, none on any other booking site - so I think there would definitely be some potential. Miami could as well be used as a good connection airport into central America/southern United States.

Miami is a huge south and central American and Caribbean hub.
Would have no trouble filling a flight I think if you add in crusie traffic and general south florida tourism/business.
Iberia might want that traffic in Madrid though.

islanderre · 15-02-2016 11:50pm

Just seen a tweet that Hainan airlines launching dub to man to Beijing.....

From Irish travel trade news....
On today’s Chinese New Year, Hainan Airlines has announced increased capacity on its new non-stop, four times a week service from Manchester to Beijing due to commence on 10th June 2016, thus offering a one-stop service from Dublin.

When the new route was announced on 23rd October 2015, Hainan said it would be operated by an Airbus 330-200, but the airline will now offer increased capacity with an Airbus 330-300 that will offer 292 seats, with 32 in Business Class and 260 in Economy Class.

The new route will be the first non-stop service between Manchester and Beijing and will be Hainan Airlines’ sixth international route following the launch of the Chongqing-Rome, Beijing-San Jose, Shanghai-Boston, Shanghai-Seattle and Beijing-Prague routes last year

Blut2 · 16-02-2016 1:48am

islanderre wrote: »

Just seen a tweet that Hainan airlines launching dub to man to Beijing.....

From Irish travel trade news....
On today’s Chinese New Year, Hainan Airlines has announced increased capacity on its new non-stop, four times a week service from Manchester to Beijing due to commence on 10th June 2016, thus offering a one-stop service from Dublin.

When the new route was announced on 23rd October 2015, Hainan said it would be operated by an Airbus 330-200, but the airline will now offer increased capacity with an Airbus 330-300 that will offer 292 seats, with 32 in Business Class and 260 in Economy Class.

The new route will be the first non-stop service between Manchester and Beijing and will be Hainan Airlines’ sixth international route following the launch of the Chongqing-Rome, Beijing-San Jose, Shanghai-Boston, Shanghai-Seattle and Beijing-Prague routes last year

So pretty much the same "one-stop" service as currently offered by British Airways. Or KLM. Or even Emirates. Or any one of a number of other airlines...

I wish announcements like this (or WOWAir's "direct" services to the US from Dublin) got a more appropriate level of media attention...ie none.

(don't mean to be attacking you here, more so the announcement itself - this sort of PR release really annoys me)

Noxegon · 16-02-2016 5:55am

Blut2 wrote: »

So pretty much the same "one-stop" service as currently offered by British Airways. Or KLM. Or even Emirates. Or any one of a number of other airlines.

Indeed. This type of non-announcement annoys me in the same way that the three "new transatlantic routes from Dublin" by Aer Lingus this year only added one new destination to those available.

On the plus side, at least we've gotten rid of the "9.99 + taxes and charges" crap (actual price 50 euro) that was so prevalent a few years ago.

16-02-2016 8:21am

What I'm taking from this lads is a new airline with new colours at Dublin. I'm sure it's a tester for a direct stand alone route to Beijing.

LXFlyer · 16-02-2016 8:40am

Deleted User wrote: »

What I'm taking from this lads is a new airline with new colours at Dublin. I'm sure it's a tester for a direct stand alone route to Beijing.

Hainan have not announced that they are serving Dublin.

They are operating from Manchester and have announced bigger capacity on that route.

It would be a connecting flight from Dublin, presumably on Aer Lingus given Ryanair don't interline.

Sloppy journalism from ITTN.

LXFlyer · 16-02-2016 8:42am

Noxegon wrote: »

Indeed. This type of non-announcement annoys me in the same way that the three "new transatlantic routes from Dublin" by Aer Lingus this year only added one new destination to those available.

To be fair - Aer Lingus are perfectly entitled to announce them as new routes as, for that airline, they are.

If DAA were publicising them they should describe them as new services as opposed to new routes.

Tenger · 17-02-2016 1:26pm

islanderre wrote: »

From Irish travel trade news....
On today’s Chinese New Year, Hainan Airlines has announced increased capacity on its new non-stop, four times a week service from Manchester to Beijing due to commence on 10th June 2016, thus offering a one-stop service from Dublin.
......

I read this article yesterday. Very sloppy reporting. Yes, a route to Bejing is now only "one stop" from Dublin. However the tone of the headline was very much hinting that Hainan were now operating from DUB. The article didnt give any details on any codeshare or interline agreement. Remains to be seen if you can travel on a single booking DUB-MAN-PEK.

Pat Dunne · 17-02-2016 2:18pm

islanderre wrote: »

Just seen a tweet that Hainan airlines launching dub to man to Beijing.....

From Irish travel trade news....
On today’s Chinese New Year, Hainan Airlines has announced increased capacity on its new non-stop, four times a week service from Manchester to Beijing due to commence on 10th June 2016, thus offering a one-stop service from Dublin.

When the new route was announced on 23rd October 2015, Hainan said it would be operated by an Airbus 330-200, but the airline will now offer increased capacity with an Airbus 330-300 that will offer 292 seats, with 32 in Business Class and 260 in Economy Class.

The new route will be the first non-stop service between Manchester and Beijing and will be Hainan Airlines’ sixth international route following the launch of the Chongqing-Rome, Beijing-San Jose, Shanghai-Boston, Shanghai-Seattle and Beijing-Prague routes last year

Tenger wrote: »

I read this article yesterday. Very sloppy reporting. Yes, a route to Bejing is now only "one stop" from Dublin. However the tone of the headline was very much hinting that Hainan were now operating from DUB. The article didnt give any details on any codeshare or interline agreement. Reminds to be seen if you can travel on a single booking DUB-MAN-PEK.

I disagree entirely, this is not "sloppy reporting" it is factual and accurate.

However it does contain one element which almost everyone in the PR industry* uses in dollops of larger or smaller amounts, "SPIN"!

*Of course I would never besmirch my colleagues in the journalistic professions of this or similarly appalling practices.

IRLConor · 17-02-2016 2:20pm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

I disagree entirely, this is not "sloppy reporting" it is factual and accurate. However it does contain one element what almost everyone in the PR industry uses in dollops of larger or smaller amounts, "SPIN"!

It's technically correct, which as we all know is the best kind of correct.

737max · 17-02-2016 2:26pm

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/news/160216-ryanair-opens-new-bucharest-base-no-81/?market=en&utm_content=buffer43505&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

supposedly additional capacity on Dublin route to Bucharest.

LXFlyer · 17-02-2016 2:45pm

Pat Dunne wrote: »

I disagree entirely, this is not "sloppy reporting" it is factual and accurate.

However it does contain one element which almost everyone in the PR industry* uses in dollops of larger or smaller amounts, "SPIN"!

*Of course I would never besmirch my colleagues in the journalistic professions of this or similarly appalling practices.

It is the job of journalists to cut through spin - I would argue that they did not in this case.

Tenger · 17-02-2016 5:34pm

lxflyer wrote: »

It is the job of journalists to cut through spin - I would argue that they did not in this case.

I would agree. I can understand the Hainan marketers hinting at a one stop option, or indeed daa themselves. But surely the Irish Travek Trade News writer could have been a little clearer in their article..... "now Irish travellers may avail of a direct Hainan service to Bejing after a short flight to Manchester"

Pat Dunne · 17-02-2016 6:10pm

lxflyer wrote: »

It is the job of journalists to cut through spin - I would argue that they did not in this case.

Ah yes good old journalistic integrity. However in this cruel commercial world, it is the job of the PR and Marketing Departments, to never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Pat Dunne · 17-02-2016 6:21pm

Tenger wrote: »

Irish Travek Trade News writer could have been a little clearer in their article..... "now Irish travellers may avail of a direct Hainan service to Bejing after a short flight to Manchester"

First rule of writing, is never to be too "wordy", which unfortunately your version is. Currently one is wearing one's Editor's hat.

The writer of the piece, followed this golden rule and wrote.

"thus offering a one-stop service from Dublin".

Now enough of this giddiness and back to flying!

TheFitz13 · 19-02-2016 3:00am

Saw on Wiki (bad source, I know) and I saw on DUBs airlines and destination page that the Liverpool service is ending in May, is this true? Don't like believing wiki

LXFlyer · 19-02-2016 3:12am

TheFitz13 wrote: »

Saw on Wiki (bad source, I know) and I saw on DUBs airlines and destination page that the Liverpool service is ending in May, is this true? Don't like believing wiki

It's switching from two EI flights a day to four EI Regional flights per day.

http://www.aviationtribune.com/airlines/europe/item/3434-aer-lingus-increase-frequency-on-dublin-liverpool-route

JCX BXC · 19-02-2016 3:36am

lxflyer wrote: »

It's switching from two EI flights a day to four EI Regional flights per day.

http://www.aviationtribune.com/airlines/europe/item/3434-aer-lingus-increase-frequency-on-dublin-liverpool-route

It was more than 2 flights a day, was something like 19/20 a week.

Pat Dunne · 19-02-2016 9:30am

Carnacalla wrote: »

It was more than 2 flights a day, was something like 19/20 a week.

Just looked up the Aer Lingus website and I see 2 scheduled flight per day and an additional flight on a Thurs, Fri and Sun. These flights are valid until 26th March 2016

https://classic.aerlingus.com/cgi-bin/obel01im1/bookonline/timeTables.do

man98 · 20-02-2016 8:50pm

Citywing have decided against operating Dublin - Derry so I've heard. A wise decision on their behalf imo.

Nibs05 · 28-02-2016 11:10am

Any news on Qatar starting in Dub ??, seems to be some rumours floating on the ground they are due to start at flights to and from Doha with AL looking after the turnarounds. Could be just a rumour though

poteen · 29-02-2016 5:04am

Nibs05 wrote: »

Any news on Qatar starting in Dub ??, seems to be some rumours floating on the ground they are due to start at flights to and from Doha with AL looking after the turnarounds. Could be just a rumour though

This rumour has been doing the rounds for a couple of years now and still nothing. Qatar seem to have increased routes to almost every European city of note except Dublin. There was also a rumour a while ago of Belfast. Any route is likely going to be the Dreamliner 787.

There is also the IAG umbrella to consider which could be making a larger plan.

29-02-2016 10:27am

DELTA in Summer 2016 season is adjusting operational aircraft for seasonal Atlanta – Dublin route, as the airline plans to operate Airbus A330-300 aircraft from 03APR16. The A330-300 will replace Boeing 767-300ER aircraft on this route, operating on daily basis.
DL176 ATL1930 – 0815+1DUB 333 D
DL177 DUB1010 – 1400ATL 333 D

Source airliner route, nearly a 50% capacity increase.

JCX BXC · 29-02-2016 5:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Source airliner route, nearly a 50% capacity increase.

Was that not already planned? Or was that JFK?

Jamie2k9 · 29-02-2016 6:23pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Was that not already planned? Or was that JFK?

They are both big increases, airline route just a little slow, been known since before Christmas.

Khuitlio · 02-03-2016 5:02pm

Nibs05 wrote: »

Any news on Qatar starting in Dub ??, seems to be some rumours floating on the ground they are due to start at flights to and from Doha with AL looking after the turnarounds. Could be just a rumour though

QR to make "significant network announcements" at ITB Berlin next week so there's a possibility of finally getting an announcement then.

Idbatterim · 02-03-2016 6:18pm

in terms of vegas, does the airport there in connection with the city council or whomever, not offer strong incentives for new routes, given the money people will blow there?

JCX BXC · 02-03-2016 6:28pm

Jaysus your never gonna let this LAS business go are you :P

January · 02-03-2016 6:44pm

Carnacalla wrote: »

Jaysus your never gonna let this LAS business go are you :P

Not until there's a direct flight from DUB lol

basill · 03-03-2016 5:35pm

Its a point to point route, not dissimilar to an upmarket Alicante in terms of clientele. It has no feed from any IAG carriers as the airport isn't a hub. Its customers want to pay zilcho for tickets and are more than happy to fly to LGW or further to the East to secure bottom dollar irrespective of the inconvenience. So answers on the back of a post card if the planners at AL want a 330 to be heading to the desert or somewhere more profitable.

rovers2001 · 09-03-2016 9:17am

Hi guys
Apologies if I'm in wrong thread,I have a flight with Etiopian airlines at 06.15am to LA,what time should I go airport as I believe Immigration don't start till 6am.
Thaks

Dublin Airport New Routes 2016

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