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The Avengers: Age of Ultron [** SPOILERS FROM POST 599 ONWARD **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,569 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    If there's no Pym I'd be willing to bet we get the
    Ultron taking over the Iron Man suit
    version of Ultron shoehorned in along the way somewhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Frisbee wrote: »
    If there's no Pym I'd be willing to bet we get the
    Ultron taking over the Iron Man suit
    version of Ultron shoehorned in along the way somewhere.

    More than fair chance of it given that the teaser shown at comic con showed
    an Iron Man helmet being continuously twisted and dented to ultimately unveil the distinct outline of Ultron's helmet, inner red lights and all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,901 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    More than fair chance of it given that the teaser shown at comic con showed
    an Iron Man helmet being continuously twisted and dented to ultimately unveil the distinct outline of Ultron's helmet, inner red lights and all.

    Any links to the teaser trailer?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Nope, just a description:
    Crowd goes nuts, Joss waves and says “I don't have anything to say, but I have one thing to add.” The lights go down and we hear the Avengers theme.

    Iron Man's helmet appears, audience cheers. Sound clips from all the Marvel movies start playing. “I am Iron Man,” “I'm always angry,”etc. I don't remember all of them, but they build to the end of the Avengers where Sam Jackson says they'll be back when they are needed.

    All the while the camera sweeps in close to the Iron Man helmet. It's getting crunched, dented, misshapen. Sparks fly, crunching noises are heard. When we get that final Avengers quote the camera pulls back and the Iron Man helmet has been reforged as Ultron's helmet, an angry red light glowing out of his mouth and eye holes. Cue my eardrums being punctured by screaming fangirls (and boys, I'll be fair).

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63354


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    I guess that pretty much confirms Stark makes Ultron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Age of Ultron wasnt even that good of a comic.

    No Thor, no Hulk, no Iron Man suit and a defeated Captain America.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    I'm a bit disappointed that Iron Man will be so involved in the creation of Ultron. Between 3 films and Avengers I think there's been a bit of Iron Man overkill, as good as Downey is, the 3rd film for me was the character grating a fair bit by now. I'm also a bit worried how they will explain his creation because originally he gradually developed intelligence, so it'll be interesting how they put that in just 1 film.

    To be honest, out of all Marvel's films coming up, I'm more excited by Guardians of The Galaxy. Fresh set of characters and from what was shown it seems an interesting humour involved as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,210 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Age of Ultron wasnt even that good of a comic.

    No Thor, no Hulk, no Iron Man suit and a defeated Captain America.

    They won't be following the comics story, just using the name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    One thing that has gotten me thinking - based, partially, on the title Age of Ultron - is whether these films run the risk of becoming overly 'geeky' and inaccessible. There is a risk that as they continue to embrace comic lore, they will get mixed up in the convoluted universe that has long since made Marvel comic books themselves a relatively inaccessible medium, instead the domain of relatively dedicated fans or at least slightly more dedicated than your average moviegoer. Obviously 'Avengers 2' is a big enough selling point, but I read 'Age of Ultron' and simply think Ultron is a ridiculous name. I say that, admittedly, as someone generally naive of comics culture and Marvel lore.

    It will be curious to see how audiences react as the movie universe grows more complicated, especially with the far less commercially certain projects like Guardians of the Galaxy on the horizon. I think one of the things that have made these films so successful in the mainstream thus far is their accessibility and the way they more-or-less standalone. As they weave a more interconnected thread while concurrently delving into the lesser known character depths, one wonders if they'll leave people behind in the process.

    I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that I thought Captain america was too goofy and old fashioned to make a good film, Thor was too out there to work and the Avengers would be a clusterf#ck of too many cooks proportions.
    So far Marvel have been proving me wrong at every turn, but it's gotta end somewhere right?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Galvasean wrote: »
    I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that I thought Captain america was too goofy and old fashioned to make a good film, Thor was too out there to work and the Avengers would be a clusterf#ck of too many cooks proportions.
    So far Marvel have been proving me wrong at every turn, but it's gotta end somewhere right?

    Very true, but the new films on their way are the first batch of adaptations from source material that the public would have almost zero knowledge of. Iron Man, the Hulk, Cap. America: they're all well enough known on their own and broadly engrained in pop culture; heck, all bar Iron Man & Thor had their own previous existences in TV & film. Stuff like Ultron or the Guardians of the Galaxy are unknown quantities and it remains to be seen how they'll fly without the buffer of a presence in pop culture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Corholio wrote: »
    I'm a bit disappointed that Iron Man will be so involved in the creation of Ultron. Between 3 films and Avengers I think there's been a bit of Iron Man overkill, as good as Downey is, the 3rd film for me was the character grating a fair bit by now. I'm also a bit worried how they will explain his creation because originally he gradually developed intelligence, so it'll be interesting how they put that in just 1 film.

    To be honest, out of all Marvel's films coming up, I'm more excited by Guardians of The Galaxy. Fresh set of characters and from what was shown it seems an interesting humour involved as well.

    But it isn't happening over the course of one movie, In Iroman 3 Jarvis began to think for itself and then it malfunctioned and shut itself down, this and they have said the Winter soldier will be the main lead in movie to AVengers 2 so im betting **** will start to go down Ultron wise in that movie towards the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    But it isn't happening over the course of one movie, In Iroman 3 Jarvis began to think for itself and then it malfunctioned and shut itself down, this and they have said the Winter soldier will be the main lead in movie to AVengers 2 so im betting **** will start to go down Ultron wise in that movie towards the end

    I hope Winter Soldier has something about Ultron because the Iron Man 3 stuff was minimal and nowhere big enough to explain even half of a huge Avengers villain.

    Also theres talk about Vin Diesel having a romantic turn in a Marvel film, some are speculating it could be Thanos and Death. Diesel as Thanos would be absolutley awful, hope Marvel have more sense than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Galvasean wrote: »
    I was thinking the same thing, but then I remembered that I thought Captain america was too goofy and old fashioned to make a good film, Thor was too out there to work and the Avengers would be a clusterf#ck of too many cooks proportions.
    So far Marvel have been proving me wrong at every turn, but it's gotta end somewhere right?

    Same, I thought Thor would be utter cack and it turned out to be my favourite of the Phase 1 movies (excluding Iron Man 1 but that's not part of it really) and Captain America was way more fun than I anticipated, if they'd brought him into modern day early in the movie it wouldnt have worked half as well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,234 ✭✭✭Thwip!


    If it turns out to be an evil Jarvis....then Paul Bettany's voice would make for a very creepy Ultron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Yeah he would i can picture him being fantastic if they gave him Ultron...Like can you picture him playing a real condecending Jarvis (Ultron) Sir I am only doing what is good for the human race , It is Logic !etc etc...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    krudler wrote: »
    Same, I thought Thor would be utter cack and it turned out to be my favourite of the Phase 1 movies (excluding Iron Man 1 but that's not part of it really) and Captain America was way more fun than I anticipated, if they'd brought him into modern day early in the movie it wouldnt have worked half as well.

    How is IM not part of Phase One? It was the first of the films and introduced (via the post-credits scene) the whole idea of The Avengers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,482 ✭✭✭brianregan09


    Not part of phase 1................It started phase 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I'm a big fan of the all the movies but am I the only one who finds talk of "phase 1" and such, utterly cringeworthy?

    I mean, we are all nerds here but it just sounds so ridiculous. They are movies....not military operations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Well, they are phrases coined by Marvel themselves. It doesn't bother me anyway, and if anything I can actually respect just how organised Marvel are. They know what they want and how they are going to do it.....the opposite of WB/DC basically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Sorry if this is a real silly question, Idon't follow the comics but is the new spiderman in anyway going to be integrated into the movies. . . It isn't as unbelievable as current batman and superman aligning in their dc universe at all and I'd believe he would be a good fit with the way marvel is set up? Or am I being crazy?


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well, they are phrases coined by Marvel themselves. It doesn't bother me anyway, and if anything I can actually respect just how organised Marvel are. They know what they want and how they are going to do it.....the opposite of WB/DC basically.

    DC seem to be more focused on their animated films than the live action ones and tbh far as I'm concerned the quality of the DC animated films is far superior to Marvel's live action out put.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sirsok wrote: »
    Sorry if this is a real silly question, Idon't follow the comics but is the new spiderman in anyway going to be integrated into the movies. . . It isn't as unbelievable as batman and superman at all and I'd believe he would be a good fit? Or am I being crazy?

    No, for the simple reason Marvel don't own the cinematic rights to him. He teams up with The Avengers a lot in the comics.

    This is also the reason the X-Men films don't tie in with Avengers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,803 ✭✭✭Sirsok


    Ahhh I see, I knew he was tied in with the avengers somehow, but that makes unfortunate sense.... Chances of a crossovers are absolutely dead and void so?

    Get free time in work and check up on some superhero stuff... An amalgam universe? That would be awesome


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Sirsok wrote: »
    Ahhh I see, I knew he was tied in with the avengers somehow, but that makes unfortunate sense.... Chances of a crossovers are absolutely dead and void so?

    Get free time in work and check up on some superhero stuff... An amalgam universe? That would be awesome

    There have been rumours flying around that Sony would do a deal to allow Marvel to use Spiderman (as recently as Comic-Con last week) but I'd say it's more wishful thinking than anything. It just wouldn't make sense for either studio to share their most profitable franchises with the other.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Sirsok wrote: »
    Ahhh I see, I knew he was tied in with the avengers somehow, but that makes unfortunate sense.... Chances of a crossovers are absolutely dead and void so?

    Get free time in work and check up on some superhero stuff... An amalgam universe? That would be awesome

    Very little chance; the only reason the new Spiderman movies even exist is because the rights were about to lapse & revert back to Marvel, so Sony fasttracked a new movie into production, thus retaining the rights. They seem to have no interest in a crossover or lending back a property they were keen to keep hold of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    DC seem to be more focused on their animated films than the live action ones and tbh far as I'm concerned the quality of the DC animated films is far superior to Marvel's live action out put.

    Perhaps, but at the end of the day Marvel are starting to make some serious bank between TA and IM3. I'll be very interested to see if Cap 2 and Thor 2 can get the same rub.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Perhaps, but at the end of the day Marvel are starting to make some serious bank between TA and IM3. I'll be very interested to see if Cap 2 and Thor 2 can get the same rub.

    For now but the average cinema goer is quickly going to tire of Superheros unless something really interesting comes along. There's only so many origin tales that you can sit through and the way in which studios are rebooting franchises only a few years after the last film and in essence making the same film again is going to hurt the box office of a lot of Superhero films. It's a shame that the studios are only adapting the main stream, generic characters as there is a wealth of great comic book ideas out there. I'd much prefer a Peter Panzerfaust, or Fatale, Dial H, Sixth Gun, Bedlam, etc, etc adaptations than I would another Avenger.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,115 ✭✭✭✭Nervous Wreck


    Perhaps, but at the end of the day Marvel are starting to make some serious bank between TA and IM3. I'll be very interested to see if Cap 2 and Thor 2 can get the same rub.

    I doubt they'll be quite as successful as TA or IM3 but they should easily blast the first parts of their own character movies away at the box office.
    For now but the average cinema goer is quickly going to tire of Superheros unless something really interesting comes along. There's only so many origin tales that you can sit through and the way in which studios are rebooting franchises only a few years after the last film and in essence making the same film again is going to hurt the box office of a lot of Superhero films. It's a shame that the studios are only adapting the main stream, generic characters as there is a wealth of great comic book ideas out there. I'd much prefer a Peter Panzerfaust, or Fatale, Dial H, Sixth Gun, Bedlam, etc, etc adaptations than I would another Avenger.

    In fairness, Marvel have Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man and Dr. Strange in the offing. None of those are mainstream at all and they're all pretty brave choices. I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce Black Panther down the line too.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In fairness, Marvel have Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man and Dr. Strange in the offing. None of those are mainstream at all and they're all pretty brave choices. I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce Black Panther down the line too.

    Guardians of the Galaxy looks great but it's becoming clear that Marvel are going to tie it into the Avengers and as such I'm not quite as excited as I was. As for Ant-man and Dr. Strange, both are riskier choices but I don't see them being anything other than safe origin stories.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Interesting choice, he certainly has the unique voice for it. Smooth, yet sinister.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Bullseye1 wrote: »

    Have him come through a stargate :P good casting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    The Wrap reports that Kick-Ass star Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been confirmed to play Quicksilver. Quicksilver has super speed and is the twin brother of Scarlet Witch, who will be played by Elizabeth Olsen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    The Wrap reports that Kick-Ass star Aaron Taylor-Johnson has been confirmed to play Quicksilver. Quicksilver has super speed and is the twin brother of Scarlet Witch, who will be played by Elizabeth Olsen

    Marvel confirms Elizabeth Olsen (Martha Marcy May Marlene) and Aaron Taylor-Johnson (Kick-Ass) will be playing super-powered twins Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver in the upcoming Avengers: Age of Ultron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    Not a fan of Taylor-Johnson, just find him unlikeable on screen.

    Interesting view from Frank Miller too on the current run of superhero movies. I agree with a lot he said. The amount of films has saturated the genre and weakened the wonder of it IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,224 ✭✭✭✭Marty McFly


    Corholio wrote: »
    Interesting view from Frank Miller too on the current run of superhero movies. I agree with a lot he said. The amount of films has saturated the genre and weakened the wonder of it IMO.


    Which was why I think I enjoyed X Men First Class so much it offered something a little bit different. I do agree though they are running the risk of over saturating the market making people less interested. But it's Hollywood and right now comic book movies are a cash cow and Hollywood will milk it for all it can get.

    I'd say personally I like most them and do enjoy them bar maybe the Spiderman films. Have yet to see Man of Steel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    Guardians of the Galaxy looks great but it's becoming clear that Marvel are going to tie it into the Avengers and as such I'm not quite as excited as I was. As for Ant-man and Dr. Strange, both are riskier choices but I don't see them being anything other than safe origin stories.

    You are not excited for Thanos and Infinity Gauntlet?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    You are not excited for Thanos and Infinity Gauntlet?

    I can't speak for Darko obviously, but as someone who's only casually acquainted with the comics all these are based on, the presence of the 'Infinity Gauntlet' has me baffled and apathetic (not to mention chortling quietly at such a silly name). I'm kinda disappointed the Guardians of the Galaxy film is also going to be tethered to the overall Marvel films, it seemed like an interesting idea that shouldn't need such strangulating continuity. It's only going to make these films even more interchangeable than they're already becoming...


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,394 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    pixelburp wrote: »
    I can't speak for Darko obviously, but as someone who's only casually acquainted with the comics all these are based on, the presence of the 'Infinity Gauntlet' has me baffled and apathetic (not to mention chortling quietly at such a silly name). I'm kinda disappointed the Guardians of the Galaxy film is also going to be tethered to the overall Marvel films, it seemed like an interesting idea that shouldn't need such strangulating continuity. It's only going to make these films even more interchangeable than they're already becoming...

    I dunno dude, it has a talking raccoon and an ent in it. As for interchangeability, I genuinely think Thor 2 is the only marvel film thus far that didnt have it's own distinct feel to it, and I don't think it's a coincidence that its the first one to have a no name director at the helm.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I dunno dude, it has a talking raccoon and an ent in it. As for interchangeability, I genuinely think Thor 2 is the only marvel film thus far that didnt have it's own distinct feel to it, and I don't think it's a coincidence that its the first one to have a no name director at the helm.

    Don't get me wrong, GotG looks like the sort of farscape-esque fun that these films sorely need, but I had hoped it might be a standalone adventure; I'm just a little leery about Marvel insisting that all of their movies take place in the same universe. Honestly I never got the appeal with the comics' own incestuous overlap between their various brands, and with the films it already feels a bit creaky around the edges. As I mentioned in the Wolverine thread, I'm actually kinda glad Marvel don't have access to all their IPs; these worlds are getting awfully overcrowded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Thomas Kretschmann to play villain Source


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    Looks like the fan theories get it right for a change. ;)
    It looks like Paul Bettany might very well have an expanded presence in Joss Whedon's upcoming Avengers: Age of Ultron. England's The Daily Mail first reported and then Variety quickly confirmed that the actor will play android team member The Vision in the May 1, 2015 release.
    http://www.superherohype.com/news/290511-paul-bettany-to-play-the-vision-in-avengers-age-of-ultron#/slide/1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 ✭✭✭✭Corholio


    It'll be interesting to see if they tie it to Jarvis or just have Bettany as a completely unrelated character. It'd be hard to do with his distinctive voice though unless they change it.

    The Vision and Scarlet Witch have quite the history too in the comics, so will be interesting to see if they take from those stories.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,485 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,877 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    First look at Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
    Scarlet-Witch-Avengers-466x700.jpg
    Quicksilver-Avengers1.jpg
    scarlet%20witch%20hawkeye.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Well, he looks better than Days Of Future Past's Quicksilver


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭TheGoldenAges


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Well, he looks better than Days Of Future Past's Quicksilver

    Yeah, from what I've seen of Evan Peters previous work I'm yet to be convinced he can pull off Quicksilver, but sure hopefully he'll prove us wrong


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Those set photos also included the first look at Ultron; or to be more specific, the head & shoulders stand-in, with the rest presumably being a CGI construct at a later point (though it'd be kinda hilarious if it wasn't):

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=96707


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,315 ✭✭✭Soft Falling Rain


    FunLover18 wrote: »
    Well, he looks better than Days Of Future Past's Quicksilver

    Ah now, wouldn't be hard. :pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,091 ✭✭✭Antar Bolaeisk


    Quicksilver looks like he's wearing a wig about half the size it should be which is just sitting on top of his normal hair.


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