Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

CatFromHue · 21-02-2012 6:41pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

You obviously haven't watched much Super 15 then, Ellis aside, the others you mention are some of the classiest players in New Zealand at the moment. You forgot to mention Dan Carter - rubbish as well I suppose?

If I remember right Guildford and Maitland had a bit of a stinker in last season's final against the Reds. They may not be in the Tommy Bowe type of player but they have pace to burn. Fruean still has a bit to learn but looks very promising.

skydish79 · 21-02-2012 6:56pm

Looking at the Brumbies v Force

Brumbies having lost Giteau, Chisholm, Ashley-Cooper, Chapman, Salvi, Ma'afu, Elsom
Jake white new coach

Force have lost O'Connor who was kicking machine

Fancy the force to win this one

irishbucsfan · 21-02-2012 7:01pm

skydish79 wrote: »

Looking at the Brumbies v Force

Brumbies having lost Giteau, Chisholm, Ashley-Cooper, Chapman, Salvi, Ma'afu, Elsom
Jake white new coach

Force have lost O'Connor who was kicking machine

Fancy the force to win this one

Force lost Smith as well, don't know where either team are planning to get points from.

0-0 draw!

skydish79 · 21-02-2012 7:10pm

chupacabra wrote: »

This year will be the Sharks year. I can feel it in my bones.

The Sharks

1. Dale Chadwick
2. Bismarck du Plessis
3. Jannie du Plessis
4. Steven Sykes
5. Anton Bresler
6. Keegan Daniel (Captain)
7. Marcell Coetzee
8. Ryan Kankowski
9. Frederic Michalak
10. Patrick Lambie
11. Lwazi Mvovo
12. Tim Whitehead
13. JP Pietersen
14. Louis Ludik
15. Riaan Viljoen

Replacements
16. Craig Burden
17. Wiehahn Herbst
18. Ross Skeate
19. Jacques Botes
20. Charl McLeod
21. Meyer Bosman
22. Paul Jordaan

How do you reckong pietersen will go in the centre?

Fancy sharks to come out with a win

thomond2006 · 21-02-2012 7:13pm

Bulls: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (capt), 7 Jaques Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.

Replacements: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.

That's the lineup for Bulls' first game. They have lost so many experienced players: Steenkamp, Matfield, Bakkies, du Preez all gone.

Flincher · 21-02-2012 7:13pm

It was almost unfair for O'Connor to have to play with that Force backline every week. He was miles ahead of anybody else there.

By the way, next Aussie 9 is Justin Tuner from the Force. He missed all of last season with a knee injury, but he has got a lightening pass and is very quick around the park. He made a few appearances in 2010.

All I could find of him on youtube was his pass to Hill for a winning drop goal against the Stormers. It was his debut as far as I remember. Right at the end of this clip

Flincher · 21-02-2012 7:17pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Bulls: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (capt), 7 Jaques Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.

Replacements: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.

That's the lineup for Bulls' first game. They have lost so many experienced players: Steenkamp, Matfield, Bakkies, du Preez all gone.

They've replaced them relatively well I think. Kruger is an excellent second row. Hougaard at 9 isn't the worst in the world, and Sadie played well in hsi few games for the Stormers - he's probably better than Pretorious who would have been there. Himself and Olivier will made a decent partnership.

They should have held on to van den Heever if that was a possibility, he's better than Ndungane anyway.

thomond2006 · 21-02-2012 7:19pm

Sadie is very good alright, WP fans were not happy he was let go.

Hagz · 21-02-2012 8:04pm

Flincher wrote: »

Hougaard at 9 isn't the worst in the world,

Not at all. In fact he'd be one of the best.

endabob1 · 22-02-2012 8:08am

thomond2006 wrote: »

Sadie is very good alright, WP fans were not happy he was let go.

Not happy at all but he was out of contract and looking at the Bulls centres and the Stormers pairings (3 current Boks) he knew he would get much more game time in Pretoria.

He will be a class act imho, shame the Stormers couldn't hang on to him.

Flincher · 22-02-2012 6:56pm

Blues v Crusaders, Friday - 06:35

Blues: 15 Isaia Toeava, 14 David Raikuna, 13 Rene Ranger, 12 Benson Stanley, 11 Rudi Wulf, 10 Michael Hobbs, 9 Alby Mathewson; 8 Jerome Kaino, 7 Daniel Braid, 6 Chris Lowrey, 5 Ali Williams, 4 Anthony Boric, 3 Charlie Faumuina, 2 Keven Mealamu (c), 1 Tom McCartney.

Replacements: 16 Pauliasi Manu, 17 Tevita Mailau, 18 Brad Mika, 19 Luke Braid, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Hadleigh Parkes, 22 Sherwin Stowers.

Crusaders: 15 Tom Marshall, 14 Sean Maitland, 13 Robbie Fruean, 12 Ryan Crotty, 11 Israel Dagg, 10 Tyler Bleyendaal, 9 Andy Ellis, 8 Kieran Read (c), 7 Matt Todd, 6 George Whitelock, 5 Samuel Whitelock, 4 Tom Donnelly, 3 Ben Franks, 2 Quentin MacDonald, 1 Wyatt Crockett.

Replacements: 16 Corey Flynn, 17 Owen Franks, 18 Luke Romano, 19 Luke Whitelock, 20 Willie Heinz, 21 Patrick Osborne, 22 Adam Whitelock.

Brumbies v Western Force, Friday - 08:40

Brumbies: 15 Robbie Coleman, 14 Henry Speight, 13 Andrew Smith, 12 Christian Lealiifano, 11 Jesse Mogg, 10 Matt Toomua, 9 Nic White, 8 Ben Mowen, 7 Ita Vaea, 6 Peter Kimlin, 5 Sam Carter, 4 Leon Power, 3 Dan Palmer, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Ben Alexander.

Replacements: Anthony Hegerty, Ruaidhri Murphy, Scott Fardy, Michael Hooper, Ian Prior, Zack Holmes, Joe Tomane.

Western Force: 15 Alfie Mafi, 14 Nick Cummins, 13 Winston Stanley, 12 Rory Sidey, 11 Napolioni Nalaga, 10 James Stannard, 9 Brett Sheehan, 8 Ben McCalman, 7 David Pocock (c), 6 Matt Hodgson, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 Toby Lynn, 3 Salesi Ma'au, 2 Nathan Charles, 1 Pek Cowan.

Replacements: Elvis Taione, Kieran Longbottom, Phoenix Battye, Angus Cottrell, Justin Turner, Ben Seymour, Sam Wara.

Bulls v Sharks, Friday - 17:10

Bulls: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Akona Ndungane, 13 Johann Sadie, 12 Francois Venter, 11 Bjorn Basson, 10 Morne Steyn, 9 Francois Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies (c), 7 Jaques Potgieter, 6 Deon Stegmann, 5 Juandre Kruger, 4 Flip van der Merwe, 3 Werner Kruger, 2 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 1 Dean Greyling.

Replacements: 16 Willie Wepener, 17 Frik Kirsten, 18 Wilhelm Steenkamp, 19 CJ Stander, 20 Jano Vermaak, 21 Louis Fouche, 22 JJ Engelbrecht.

Sharks: 15 Riaan Viljoen, 14 Louis Ludik, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Tim Whitehead, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Patrick Lambie, 9 Frederic Michalak, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Keegan Daniel (c), 5 Anton Bresler, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Dale Chadwick.

Replacements: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Wiehahn Herbst, 18 Ross Skeate, 19 Jacques Botes, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Meyer Bosman, 22 Paul Jordaan.

Chiefs v Highlanders, Saturday - 06:35

Chiefs: 15 Robbie Robinson, 14 Lelia Masaga, 13 Richard Kahui, 12 Sonny Bill Williams, 11 Tim Nanai-Williams, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Brendon Leonard, 8 Fritz Lee, 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Messam (capt), 5 Brodie Retallick, 4 Craig Clarke, 3 Ben Afeaki, 2 Hika Elliot, 1 Arizona Taumalolo.

Replacements: 16 Mahonri Schwalger, 17 Toby Smith, 18 Michael Fitzgerald, 19 Tanerau Latimer, 20 Tawera Kerr- Barlow, 21 Andrew Horrell, 22 Asaeli Tikoirotuma.

Highlanders: 15 Ben Smith, 14 Buxton Popoali'i, 13 Tamati Ellison, 12 Phil Burleigh, 11 Hosea Gear, 10 Chris Noakes, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Nasi Manu, 7 John Hardie, 6 Adam Thomson, 5 Nick Crosswell, 4 Josh Bekhuis, 3 Chris King, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Jamie Mackintosh (c).

Replacements: 16 Jason Rutledge, 17 Bronson Murray, 18 Culum Retallick, 19 James Haskell, 20 Aaron Smith, 21 Lima Sopoaga, 22 Kurt Baker.

Waratahs v Reds, Saturday - 08:40

Waratahs: 15 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 14 Tom Kingston, 13 Rob Horne, 12 Tom Carter, 11 Brackin Karauria-Henry, 10 Daniel Halangahu (capt), 9 Sarel Pretorius, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 Chris Alcock, 6 Dave Dennis, 5 Dean Mumm, 4 Kane Douglas, 3 Sekope Kepu, 2 Tatafu Polota-Nau, 1 Benn Robinson.

Replacements: 16 Damien Fitzpatrick, 17 Paddy Ryan, 18 Lopeti Timani, 19 Jono Jenkins, 20 Brendan McKibbin, 21 Bernard Foley, 22 Nathan Trist.

Reds: 15 Luke Morahan, 14 Dom Shipperley, 13 Anthony Faingaa, 12 Ben Tapuai, 11 Digby Ioane, 10 Mike Harris, 9 Will Genia, 8 Jake Schatz, 7 Beau Robinson, 6 Scott Higginbotham, 5 James Horwill (capt), 4 Rob Simmons, 3 James Slipper, 2 James Hanson, 1 Ben Daley.

Replacements: 16 Albert Anae, 17 Greg Holmes, 18 Van Humphries, 19 Radike Samo, 20 Liam Gill, 21 Ben Lucas, 22 Jono Lance.

Stormers v Hurricanes, Saturday - 15:05

Stormers: 15 Joe Pietersen, 14 Gerhard van den Heever, 13 Bryan Habana, 12 Jean de Villiers, 11 Gio Aplon, 10 Gary van Aswegen, 9 Dewaldt Duvenage, 8 Nick Koster, 7 Duane Vermeulen, 6 Schalk Burger (C), 5 Andries Bekker, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Brok Harris, 2 Tiaan Liebenberg, 1 Steven Kitshoff.

Replacements: 16 Scarra Ntubeni, 17 Frans Malherbe, 18 De Kock Steenkamp, 19 Siya Kolisi, 20 Louis Schreuder, 21 Burton Francis, 22 Marcel Brache.

Hurricanes: 15 Andre Taylor, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith (captain), 12 Tim Bateman, 11 Alapati Leiua, 10 Beauden Barrett, 9 Chris Eaton, 8 Victor Vito, 7 Jack Lam, 6 Faifili Levave, 5 Jason Eaton, 4 Jeremy Thrush, 3 Ben May, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Tristan Moran.

Replacements: 16 Motu Matu'u, 17 Jeffery Toomaga-Allen, 18 James Broadhurst, 19 Brad Shields, 20 TJ Perenara, 21 Daniel Kirkpatrick, 22 Charlie Ngatai.

Lions v Cheetahs, Saturday - 17:00

Lions: 15 Jaco Taute, 14 Deon van Rensburg, 13 Doppies le Grange, 12 Alwyn Hollenbach, 11 James Kamana, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Michael Bondesio, 8 Joshua Strauss (c), 7 Derick Minnie, 6 Cobus Grobbelaar, 5 Franco van der Merwe, 4 Wikus van Heerden/ Hendrik Roodt, 3 Patric Cilliers, 2 Callie Visagie, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg.

Replacements: 16 Martin Bezuidenhout, 17 Jacobie Adriaanse/ CJ van der Linde, 18 Hendrik Roodt / Stephan Greeff, 19 Warren Whiteley, 20 Tian Meyer, 21 Butch James, 22 Michael Killian.

Cheetahs: 15 Hennie Daniller, 14 Dusty Noble, 13 Robert Ebersohn, 12 Andries Strauss, 11 Rocco Jansen, 10 Johan Goosen, 9 Tewis de Bruyn, 8 Davon Raubenheimer, 7 Lappies Labuschagné/Philip van der Walt, 6 Heinrich Brüssow, 5 Izak van der Westhuizen, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 WP Nel, 2 Adriaan Strauss (c), 1 Trevor Nyakane.

Replacements: 16 Hercu Liebenberg, 17 Lourens Adriaanse, 18 Waltie Vermeulen, 19 Ashley Johnson, 20 Pieter van Zyl, 21 Sias Ebersohn, 22 Willie le Roux.

CatFromHue · 22-02-2012 7:34pm

Go on Jesse Mogg!

irishbucsfan · 22-02-2012 7:51pm

Does anyone know of a young Irish lad who went down to join the Stormers academy?

Kiwi_knock · 22-02-2012 7:52pm

Be interesting to see how Ruaidhri Murphy gets on for the Brumbies

Judgement Day · 22-02-2012 8:09pm

I presume the omission of Dan Carter and Richie McCaw from Crusaders team is due to their slow comeback from injury/repairs rather than a move to Munster.

CatFromHue · 22-02-2012 8:16pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

I presume the omission of Dan Carter and Richie McCaw from Crusaders team is due to their slow comeback from injury/repairs rather than a move to Munster.

I think the bigger question is which Whitelock gets to sit in the front on the way to the game! George, Sam, Luke, or Adam?

Seemingly their Granddad was an All Black and their dad was a Junior All Black.

endabob1 · 23-02-2012 11:25am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Does anyone know of a young Irish lad who went down to join the Stormers academy?

Wasn't aware of anyone, is this a recent thing?
I see the WP Institute website is "being updated" and the U21 Squad hasn't been announced yet. It would be a slightly odd move, although I know there was a swap deal going on with Saracens Academy, unless it was part of that.

kilnamanagh · 23-02-2012 12:26pm

Great to see Nalaga back playing rugby, he was some operator for Clermont and could find his feet at Western Force again. The Whitelock brothers is a great story, pretty special to have 4 brothers in one professional team! Good little video on them here:
http://www.3news.co.nz/Whitelock-brothers-represent-Crusaders/tabid/317/articleID/242606/Default.aspx

captivo · 23-02-2012 12:33pm

Will be interesting to see how the Brumbies go - totally rebuilt after last years disaster. Interesting how things can change so quickly from the supposed dream team (Elsom, Giteau, Mortlock, George Smith and Stephen Moore) of 2/3 years ago to the current position

Beanmachine · 23-02-2012 2:59pm

Interesting to see how Eben Etzebeth gets on in the second for the stormers he's only 20yrs old 6"7 and 117kg's He was really impressive in the junior world championships last year.

Big Nelly · 23-02-2012 8:17pm

Away this weekend, have recorded most of matchs but box would be full, any review shows on?

GerM · 23-02-2012 8:26pm

Sykes straight back into the Sharks starting side.

.ak · 24-02-2012 1:49am

Deleted User wrote: »

Gonna be able to see almost all Friday games. What team should I follow? Who plays most of their games on a Friday that are much craic?

I wan't a back dominated team with a useless scrum so that I can experience the highs and lows of rugby please and thanks.

For me Crusaders are the masters of running ball off the set piece. Expect to see dummy lines, keeping the ball alive, and very complex moves coming off the line from a scrum.

Then there's teams like the Reds, who rely on pulling the ball in and out to create space and often cause havoc in the loose.

They are generally the two teams to watch.. but this year with so many transfers you'll see a lot of other teams competing for top spot (not being dominated by the usual top 4)... Expect to see a dark horse rising from one of the SA teams.

..but, think it's gotta be one of the NZ teams this year. Either Crusaders, Blues or Chiefs. Blues have signed Nonu and Weepu... I think it could add some structure to their game, but I've heard from a lot of Blues fans that they just hate what Lam is doing and he seems to be a conservative type. Chiefs have signed SBW, who is a bit like Marmite it seems. I think the rejigging will do them well and we'll see one of these teams lift the cup imo.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-02-2012 2:03am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Does anyone know of a young Irish lad who went down to join the Stormers academy?

Possibly Peter Du Toit, scrumhalf, former Leinster subacademy and 7 Ireland U20s caps. South African family. He signed for a south african Curie Cup teams academy after the JRWC last season. I forget which team it was

irishbucsfan · 24-02-2012 8:12am

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Does anyone know of a young Irish lad who went down to join the Stormers academy?

Possibly Peter Du Toit, scrumhalf, former Leinster subacademy and 7 Ireland U20s caps. South African family. He signed for a south african Curie Cup teams academy after the JRWC last season. I forget which team it was

Nah its not him, ill get the guys name later today. I didn't know Du Toit was down there thogh, fair play to him

Judgement Day · 24-02-2012 12:41pm

Crusaders off to good start with a 19-18 on the road win over Blues.

KevIRL · 24-02-2012 7:03pm

Some game here:rolleyes:, 0-0 at HT. Bulls v Sharks. Error strewn first half

Beanmachine · 24-02-2012 7:11pm

KevIRL wrote: »

Some game here:rolleyes:, 0-0 at HT. Bulls v Sharks. Error strewn first half

I was looking forward to this aswell!! Dire first half.

Fishooks12 · 25-02-2012 10:25am

Mike Harris has the smallest frame of any pro rugby player I think I've ever seen, he makes ROG look built!

Pretty poor game so far too

KevIRL · 25-02-2012 11:19am

What a finish by The Reds!

Fishooks12 · 25-02-2012 11:20am

WOW!

Waratahs shot themselves in the foot. They turned the ball over with a minute to go and rather than keep if tight the scrumhalf somehow kicks it back to the reds!

Terrible defense too but a serious score

leonard7 · 25-02-2012 7:32pm

anyone know when sky do highlights of weekends super15 action?

Flincher · 25-02-2012 8:08pm

http://www.youtube.com/user/TTRugbyVids

Often a good channel to get highlights of most of the games.

kmart6 · 26-02-2012 2:24am

Fcuk!:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gR7Rvx9ik

Winters · 28-02-2012 2:09pm

Has anyone been to a Stormers game in Newlands?

Im planning to be down there on honeymoon for the Rebels game in July (Last game of the season). Never been to a Supa 15 game so nice timing eh?

Can anyone recommend where to sit or go before the game?

Cheers

CIARAN_BOYLE · 28-02-2012 3:53pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Nah its not him, ill get the guys name later today. I didn't know Du Toit was down there thogh, fair play to him

You find that name?

Tox56 · 28-02-2012 4:01pm

kmart6 wrote: »

Fcuk!:eek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1gR7Rvx9ik

Try 0:10 on here:

irishbucsfan · 28-02-2012 4:57pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Nah its not him, ill get the guys name later today. I didn't know Du Toit was down there thogh, fair play to him

You find that name?

Completely forgot ill have a check tonight

kmart6 · 28-02-2012 7:48pm

Tox56 wrote: »

Try 0:10 on here:

Meh...Marshal had jumped into him and is smaller than Weepu!

Morf · 28-02-2012 9:21pm

kmart6 wrote: »

Meh...Marshal had jumped into him and is smaller than Weepu!

Marshall > Weepu though. Much much so.

The Aussie · 29-02-2012 11:12pm

kmart6 wrote: »

Meh...Marshal had jumped into him and is smaller than Weepu!

5kg's is really worthy of a "Meh"

One was back peddling and the other got deflected.

What is a "Meh" anyway???

kmart6 · 01-03-2012 12:25am

Meh...as in it doesn't impress me!

Flincher · 01-03-2012 11:51am

All the Super Rugby teams for the weekend here

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3824_7554424,00.html

Interesting to see how O'Connor and Cipriani link up for the Rebels. Once Kurtley is back, and they move Gerrard to 13, they'll have a decent backline.

Some hopelessy average players in that 22 though.

Xavi6 · 02-03-2012 7:21am

The Force will get a hiding, and the squad is weak enough as it is without the ongoing hassle of signing a fly half.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/-/union/13068727/force-import-stalemate/

On a positive note, got the new home shirt for my birthday yesterday and it's awesome.

themont85 · 02-03-2012 8:42am

It's a real pity that JOC went to Melbourne. Both places need all the help they can get with attracting folks to rugby but Perth have really supported the Force. There is currently no NRL team there so plenty of interest in a them you'd imagine after te AFL of course.

You'd like to think that a place which developed such a talent could have held onto him and further built with himself and Pocock. Is his younger brother still there?

irishbucsfan · 02-03-2012 8:50am

themont85 wrote: »

It's a real pity that JOC went to Melbourne. Both places need all the help they can get with attracting folks to rugby but Perth have really supported the Force. There is currently no NRL team there so plenty of interest in a them you'd imagine after te AFL of course.

You'd like to think that a place which developed such a talent could have held onto him and further built with himself and Pocock. Is his younger brother still there?

Theres very little support for the Force or Union at all I've found when there. I remember when Tuqiri got banned it barely got a mention in the Western Australian.

They have the Dockers and Eagles to focus on and after that they have the WACA.

Moving out of the Subi will improve the atmosphere but they have to keep the fanbase coming now. They really need a bit of success to draw in the fanbase (ie Leinster/Munster). But given union has such a miniscule following it might take even more than that.

It was always going to be tough to support the Rebels while continuing to develop the Force. But I think the Rebels will be easier to get off the ground and then they can turn their attention back west.

themont85 · 02-03-2012 9:48am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Theres very little support for the Force or Union at all I've found when there. I remember when Tuqiri got banned it barely got a mention in the Western Australian.

They have the Dockers and Eagles to focus on and after that they have the WACA.

Moving out of the Subi will improve the atmosphere but they have to keep the fanbase coming now. They really need a bit of success to draw in the fanbase (ie Leinster/Munster). But given union has such a miniscule following it might take even more than that.

It was always going to be tough to support the Rebels while continuing to develop the Force. But I think the Rebels will be easier to get off the ground and then they can turn their attention back west.

It's even worse in Melbourne though. Most don't even know there's two rugby codes there if at all Rugby. It's all about the AFL. Perth is similar but wouldn't be quite as packed up as Melbourne is. Everytime I see them on tv they seem to get decent crowds seeing as they're hockied regularly enough. In fact their attendances last year were only a small bit behind the first year Rebels in a smaller city with a diabolical team.

With no NRL team there they really have a good shot at expanding the game there.

Wexfordboy89 · 02-03-2012 2:50pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Nah its not him, ill get the guys name later today. I didn't know Du Toit was down there thogh, fair play to him

Think he signed for the Sharks under 21 team seems to playing with the Rotherham Titans according to one website i was looking at.

Wexfordboy89 · 02-03-2012 3:33pm

was just reading a piece on planet rugby and it was saying that sonny bill Williams is on his way back to NRL next season.

http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7553046,00.html

matthew8 · 02-03-2012 8:10pm

For god's sake Lions can't you hold onto a lead? They lose 28-30 to the Hurricanes.

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