Dublin Bus Mythbuster

lxflyer wrote: »

Well perhaps you should be lobbying your TD?

Waste of time. I cycle/drive most places now. Used to have an annual bus pass. That's €1200 Dublin Bus lose out on because I got tired of having to bus it with the cast of Shameless

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Waste of time. I cycle/drive most places now. Used to have an annual bus pass. That's €1200 Dublin Bus lose out on because I got tired of having to bus it with the cast of Shameless

A good decision for you I would suggest.

If your view of the rest of your fellow passengers is as solid as in this post,then it is highly unlikely ANY form of social interaction is likely to satisfy your specific needs.

I would strongly favour such involuntary customers to follow Mongfinder Generals self-help as in the long run it benefits everybody.

The Accountants would click their tongues and suffer a hissy-fit,but the benefits of losing or redeploying customers who will never be satisfied do,I believe,allow for any company to concentrate more on the requirements of the reasonable, voluntary customer.

Equally,the cast of Shameless,may also feel somewhat relieved at their new found freedom from inspection ?

Great thread this and especially love the eloquent responses from aleksmart. Reminds me of the days of Garaiste Billy!

Mahogany wrote: »

It's been resolved I was using it as an example of poor customer service.

Don't really want to discuss my issue it's a general thread, I just want to highlight the poor customer service and rip off fares from DB.

When you say "resolved",are we to take it as being in your favour ?

In all fairness,you haven't highlighted any great rip-off fares as yet.

Cash fares are high as they want you to pay by cash no longer.

I am surprised the cash fares are not higher but some will never change a moan about how high it is when they actually have an easier option that is also a good bit cheaper.

It will be cashless as soon as they can get set up just like in London but this will be a good few years yet.

Mahogany wrote: »

Yep got a letter of apology so he did.

Well 2.60 is a rip off and everyone knows it and will continue to evade fares until the price comes down.

Ah right oh...from December 1st the €2.60 goes to €2.80 for folks such as yourself.

Do bear in mind that you will get a paper-ticket and it is valid for that journey only.

Less eccentric people however,will be paying an equivalent Leapcard fare of €2.05,a reduction of 75c per journey,with the additional benefit of a Leap90 Transfer rebate of €1.00 on 2nd and subsequent bus journeys made within 90 minutes of the initial payment.

I'm at somewhat of a loss as to what more can be done to outline the significant savings readily available to reasonably minded people prepared to take some personal responsibility and avail of such opportunities.

The Fare Evasion issue is somewhat odd also,as such carry-on is universally recognized as one of the major contributory factors to Fare INCREASES,however if it satisfies a particular need to be seen as a crusader then so be it.

It should,however,be borne in mind that Revenue Checks are going to be significantly expanded in the early part of 2015,with far more use of the Standard Fare of €100.

So,whether you continue to ignore the reality of readily available FAR cheaper Fares,simply to allow you the luxury of feeling indignant,is your own call,but don't be surprised when you're finally called-out on it....

BTW good luck with the studies....have you any specific area you wish to progress intoin 3rd level perhaps ?

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

er, all of them?
I think it's fairly wide accepted that even Leap fares are excessive compared to actual service delivered overall

Really

€6.90 adult cap a day and even a further saving if used more at the end of the 7days.

Student €5 cap daily

Child €2.50 cap daily

Also now when you board and travel within 90 minutes of 1st trave on transport vehicle you get a €1 discount.

It costs me more to start my car then it does for someone to travel on a bus, luas or dart.


How anyone can say it is expensive to travel on public transport is beyond me as take all costs of running a service.

Example.
Bus costs €350,000 approx, parking costs(depot space needed), Fuel to run it, maintanance costs including repairs/staff, Driver's, ticket equipment, tyre rental. This list goes on and costs to run any business like this are huge.

AlekSmart wrote: »

Fantasy Land it may well be,but the DSP Free Travel Payment to Dublin Bus for 2013 was €20,444,000,so I guess those folks which cause such offence are,in a roundabout way contributing to my remuneration ?

I'm at a bit of a loss to understand why you feel the need to attack either the Staff or the DSP customers ?

Surely,as you've found a more suitable alternative to Public Transport then both yourself and those less fortunate than you can share the happiness ?

The travel payment comes from the DSP? Where do you think they get their funding from?

What makes you think bus passengers are less fortunate than me? Where in my contribution did I attack the staff of Dublin Bus?

lil5 wrote: »

The fare levels might be about mid-range, but the bus service is anything but.

As a long term sufferer on the 7 corridor the only saving grace is the 4 covering some of it (and even the 4 route has gotten worse over the last few months).

Buses not showing up, buses leaving the termini not as per the timetable, disappearing buses, curtailed buses, service gaps of more than 30 minutes at peak times, RTPI fantasy story, bunched up buses (within a driving time of less than 10 minutes), "temporary" bus stop on O'Connell bridge, no bus stop outside Dun Laoghaire Dart station, Blackrock scenic tour, ...


In EU Capital terms I'd rank that as well below mid-range ...

You sound like a Union Rep at a Local Meeting now.....

All of those issues have been repeatedly raised with both Local and Central Management,who,to be fair,have limited resources available for redirection.

There are certain actions which could be considered in an attempt to solve some of the issues,such as the curtailment of the 7 to a South City Terminus utilizing the O'Connell/Hackett/Butt/Talbot Bridges as focal points.

The pretence that the current service levels can continue to be directed along O Connell St/Parnell St-Sq is I'm afraid,untenable and of limited benefit to many customers,particularly as a City-Centre Fare will effectively be free to Leapcard transferees.

The continuing refusal of Dublin City Council to sanction a Bus-Shelter on O Connell Bridge (For aesthetic reasons ) speaks volumes for the regard in which DCC holds Public Transport users...I'll wager if you owned a Multi-Storey Car Park and wanted similar protection for your customers,backs would be broken to meet your needs....;)

AlekSmart wrote: »

You sound like a Union Rep at a Local Meeting now.....

sounds like an average customer to me, in fact sounds much like me a few years ago, while you sound like the union rep blaming all and sundry apart from those directly responsible for the crap service.

MOH wrote: »

Yesterday:
Check real time and leave work when there's two buses due, in 7 and 9 minutes. Stop is 4 minutes away. Second bus passes me as I walk out the front door.
Walk into the city centre, checking stops on the way. Arrive on the quays, where I have a choice of buses: stop 1 has two of the same bus, both due in 13 minutes; stop two has two of the same bus, both due in 17 minutes; stop 3 has my regular bus, due in 7 minutes; stop 4 has a bus due in 1 minute. Except that still hadn't turned up when I pulled away from stop 3 five minutes later.

This morning:
20 minute gap in buses at rush hour when they're scheduled every 7-10 minutes. First bus that comes is terminating in the city centre, despite the fact that the only such scheduled buses are the last one at night, so lots of people ignore it. Second bus just about stops, continues full past every stop after mine until halfway into town, from which there's massive dwell times at each stop as people try to get off and on past those wedged like sardines along the bus. Takes 40 minutes for a 25 minute journey.

Clearly none of this is in any way DB's fault

So assuming it IS DB's fault....what would a suggested solution be ?

The Leap card fares are not excessive for the most part (especially not on the buses)