Community - Season 5 [US] Spoilers!!

pleasant Co. · 22-01-2014 10:54pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

Is it The Big Bang Theory?

TBBT is made by CBS, if that was its competition Community would be long since cancelled. Fortunately Community's competition is every other NBC comedy, and most of them are awful with equally awful ratings. We're so lucky that NBC haven't been able to catch a break with comedies, if even one of their new comedies in the last 3 years had been successful they would have canned Community.

FlyingIrishMan · 22-01-2014 11:01pm

pleasant Co. wrote: »

TBBT is made by CBS, if that was its competition Community would be long since cancelled. Fortunately Community's competition is every other NBC comedy, and most of them are awful with equally awful ratings. We're so lucky that NBC haven't been able to catch a break with comedies, if even one of their new comedies in the last 3 years had been successful they would have canned Community.

If you and your friends are being chased by a bear, you don't have to be faster than the bear, just your friends.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 22-01-2014 11:02pm

pleasant Co. wrote: »

TBBT is made by CBS, if that was its competition Community would be long since cancelled. Fortunately Community's competition is every other NBC comedy, and most of them are awful with equally awful ratings. We're so lucky that NBC haven't been able to catch a break with comedies, if even one of their new comedies in the last 3 years had been successful they would have canned Community.

Yeah other NBC comedies are it's main competition when it comes to renewal or cancellation, but it's direct competition in a share for the ratings are the shows on the other networks and how well it does compared to it's ratings competition is a factor the network take in when renewing a show.

pleasant Co. · 22-01-2014 11:03pm

CaptainNegative wrote: »

Yeah other NBC comedies are it's main competition when it comes to renewal or cancellation, but it's direct competition in a share for the ratings are the shows on the other networks and how well it does compared to it's ratings competition is a factor the network take in when renewing a show.

That is usually how it works all right :cool:

IvaBigWun · 22-01-2014 11:04pm

CaptainNegative wrote: »

The Big Bang Theory on CBS which is the highest rated scripted show on network TV, American Idol on FOX which is the highest rated reality show on network TV

Wow, those are two TV juggernauts (although, personally, both shíte

).

Its incredible that Community holds its own niche with competition like that

Thargor · 22-01-2014 11:05pm

Asscrack Bandit was one of the funniest episodes of any American comedy I can remember.

IvaBigWun · 22-01-2014 11:12pm

Oh!

New page!

Alison Brie Gif it is so ....

Which has just reminded me; I wonder if she asked to be more covered up this season? Its all been fairly tame so far

IvaBigWun · 23-01-2014 7:11pm

TV.com says goodbye to Troy.

Good article http://www.tv.com/shows/community/community/post/community-troy-barnes-donald-glover-leaves-139036170836/

FunLover18 · 23-01-2014 10:41pm

I love this!!

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 24-01-2014 4:58am

That got me right in the feels... So many emotions!!!

scottmcb04 · 24-01-2014 5:31am

I'm going to miss troy! Brilliant character, another good episode!

Kilkenny14 · 24-01-2014 9:55am

Great send off for Troy. Abed's goodbye in describing how he had homing pigeon DNA in Troy's clone left me thinking if I had accidentally listened to "Come Sail Away" by Styx again.

Chang saying Nathan Fillion made me wonder, is he due to appear this season?

24-01-2014 12:32pm

What an episode. Up there with the Paintball episodes from Season two, but with double the emotion. Why do I have tears in my eyes from an episode based around a game of lava? Seriously. Damn you, Community.

Such an amazing send-off to Troy. There also seemed to be some actual emotion there too, from everyone, which made it much better.

Zwillinge · 24-01-2014 2:18pm

That stung me and I feel tears welling up.... What a fantastic idea and episode.

:)

FreudianSlippers · 24-01-2014 3:00pm

That was brilliant. So many lulz and then pow! Best we have seen Britta in ages, her exchange with Jeff about the floor and knock knock was hilarious. "Who's there bitch? FLOOR! FLOOOOORRRRRRRR!"

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 3:02pm

So good on so many levels!!

I don't know how the writers manage to get so much plot, emotion, and laughs in to 20 minutes. The mind boggles

TheFullDuck · 24-01-2014 3:46pm

laughed a lot at the wilhelm scream they snuck in

alroley · 24-01-2014 6:23pm

Loved the episode - very sad though

I will miss Troy

Britta was great in this episode

IvaBigWun · 24-01-2014 7:09pm

Ive more thoughts to post on this but I will say this now: I wonder how much of those final scenes were real/ad-libbed by the cast?

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 24-01-2014 7:21pm

I missed it the first time around, but re-watching it now and in the scene where the chair walkers attack Shirley Island Vicky, Garrett and Magnitude all shout out one last time before being engulfed in Lava:

Vicky: My name was Vicky! Tell my story!

Garrett: These are my only pants, I can't get them dirty!

Magnitude (in a British accent): I'm actually British!

Brilliant

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 7:36pm

I loved the Locker Boys! Where did Chang get that giant lock bling?

"Earn your M&Ms, boys"

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 7:51pm

ALSO!!!!

Was I the only one surprised to realise that Greendale is in Colorado? Has that been mentioned before?

IvaBigWun · 24-01-2014 7:57pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

ALSO!!!!

Was I the only one surprised to realise that Greendale is in Colorado? Has that been mentioned before?

I dont think so. Nice easter egg!

24-01-2014 8:10pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

ALSO!!!!

Was I the only one surprised to realise that Greendale is in Colorado? Has that been mentioned before?

Hope there's an episode where they get high.

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 8:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hope there's an episode where they get high.

Didn't they get high in the puppet episode? .... I don't think there's any need to go back there

Washington Irving · 24-01-2014 8:33pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

ALSO!!!!

Was I the only one surprised to realise that Greendale is in Colorado? Has that been mentioned before?

I'm pretty sure it was though I couldn't tell you when.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 24-01-2014 9:12pm

I don't remember them ever saying it was Colorado, so I think it was the first time...

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 9:36pm

It was briefly mentioned in some behind the scenes thing in the season 1 boxset.

BlurstMonkey · 24-01-2014 9:38pm

They've seriously saved Britta's character. She's gotten really good again.

Her exchange with Jeff was great too.

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 9:42pm

BlurstMonkey wrote: »

They've seriously saved Britta's character. She's gotten really good again.
Her exchange with Jeff was great too.

I agree. I was surprised that in an episode based around Abed's game of floor is lava, and Troy's departure, that Britta was the best character of the episode.

miralize · 24-01-2014 9:48pm

Childish Tycoon

pixelburp · 24-01-2014 9:52pm

Yeah, they've saved a number of characters; Britta, Chang and Dean have all been pulled from the abyss of total annoying caricature & are quite worthy in their own right now. I've no idea if her advice was legitimate or not, but it seemed genuine and as if the writing was trying to make an earnest attempt to put her back into the mould from season 1. That's a good thing 'cos she could often be the group's weakest link (second perhaps to Pierce)

I enjoyed the episode, the good run continues, though honestly other than the now infamous Paintball episode I've never been a huge fan of the college-wide 'event' episodes; they've always been a little over the top and took the joke too far. Still, considering it was Troy's last episode it seemed fitting to set it around one of those events. Biggest surprise of the season so far? It has to be Jonathan Banks: he has fit into the dynamic really well, and has been a good replacement curmudgeon.

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 10:04pm

pixelburp wrote: »

That's a good thing 'cos she could often be the group's weakest link (second perhaps to Pierce)

I still think that in season 1 and 2, and some of season 3, Pierce was in the top 3 characters.

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 10:06pm

pixelburp wrote: »

I enjoyed the episode, the good run continues, though honestly other than the now infamous Paintball episode I've never been a huge fan of the college-wide 'event' episodes; they've always been a little over the top and took the joke too far. Still, considering it was Troy's last episode it seemed fitting to set it around one of those events. Biggest surprise of the season so far? It has to be Jonathan Banks: he has fit into the dynamic really well, and has been a good replacement curmudgeon.

GET OUT!!!!!

Not really though (although I do disagree)

The real reason I quoted you is because you're so right about Banks! "When this is all over - I'm going to shove you back."

pixelburp · 24-01-2014 10:14pm

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I still think that in season 1 and 2, and some of season 3, Pierce was in the top 3 characters.

Pierce seemed like a difficult character to write; he was ostensibly the group's bad guy so he had to be the cause of conflict, but over time it became increasingly difficult to see why they hung out with him. I think the Dungeons and Dragons episode really sank Pierce as a character for me - he was so irredeemably horrible in that.

Washington Irving · 24-01-2014 10:15pm

CaptainNegative wrote: »

I don't remember them ever saying it was Colorado, so I think it was the first time...

I dunno, but I've never seen any behind the scenes footage and I was aware it was set in Colorado.

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 10:18pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Pierce seemed like a difficult character to write; he was ostensibly the group's bad guy so he had to be the cause of conflict, but over time it became increasingly difficult to see why they hung out with him. I think the Dungeons and Dragons episode really sank Pierce as a character for me - he was so irredeemably horrible in that.

That was one of his best episodes. Just because he is horrible, doesn't mean he is a bad character..

Dtp1979 · 24-01-2014 10:19pm

Sh1t when did the new season start??? And on what channel?

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 10:25pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Sh1t when did the new season start??? And on what channel?

4 weeks ago on NBC

I wish I had 5 new episodes to binge on, you lucky bastard

pixelburp · 24-01-2014 10:30pm

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

That was one of his best episodes. Just because he is horrible, doesn't mean he is a bad character..

I disagree, I think it did make him a bad character when they seldom wrote much beyond "Pierce is horrible and/or racist towards everyone". Jeff was egotistical, selfish and a bit of a dick with the group but he was allowed to develop and show empathy towards others. All throughout, Pierce was just Pierce. Honestly, it's no wonder Chevy Chase was so tetchy on set when he would come to work and find he had nothing to work with from the script.

FunLover18 · 24-01-2014 10:37pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Well I disagree, I think it did make him a bad character when they seldom wrote much beyond "Pierce is horrible and/or racist towards everyone". Jeff was egotistical, selfish and a bit of a dick with the group but he was allowed to develop and show empathy towards others. All throughout, Pierce was just Pierce. Honestly, it's no wonder Chevy Chase was so tetchy on set when he would come to work and find he had nothing to work with from the script.

I think Pierce was actually a very well developed character, clearly very insecure. The relationship he had with his parents (in particular his father) is explored (rare for a character of his age) and perfectly justifies his insecurities. His speech at the end of Season 2 where he explains why he drives people away, because he feels they'll push him away anyway was very touching. Even at the end of D&D there's a moment with Fat Neil which was referenced this when FN paid tribute "You were a great D&D player". I think the fact that they made him such a dick for season 2 and yet have such a heartfelt send off where his final words to the group were genuinely moving sincere while still maintaining Pierce's insensitivities is a truly magnificent feat of character development.

pixelburp · 24-01-2014 10:46pm

I don't deny that he had his moments, I just think charting the trajectory of the character Pierce was one of the more overtly two-dimensional - at best. No more so than the Gas Leak Season when he literally had one or two crotchety lines & that was it

(even if we're conveniently now ignoring that one haha).

Anywhoo, agree to disagree n' all that. Let's get back to the so-far flawless Season 5. I honestly had my doubts about it given how it's always tricky to go back for a second try, but fair play to Harmon, he & his team seem to rejuvenated the show.

Dtp1979 · 24-01-2014 10:51pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

4 weeks ago on NBC

I wish I had 5 new episodes to binge on, you lucky bastard

what number channel on sky is it and when is it on??

IvaBigWun · 24-01-2014 11:08pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Pierce seemed like a difficult character to write; he was ostensibly the group's bad guy so he had to be the cause of conflict, but over time it became increasingly difficult to see why they hung out with him. I think the Dungeons and Dragons episode really sank Pierce as a character for me - he was so irredeemably horrible in that.

I would imagine that a lot of Chase's ructions with Harmon were over how his character was written

scottmcb04 · 24-01-2014 11:25pm

Loved the way professor Duncan reacted when he was knocked out

"this is why England never wins at sports, because everybody else cheats"

Storming of like a wee child, brilliant!

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 11:39pm

Dtp1979 wrote: »

what number channel on sky is it and when is it on??

You won't find it on sky, you'll have to obtain it by other means.

IvaBigWun · 24-01-2014 11:41pm

Actually, is it on *any* UK or Irish channel?

FlyingIrishMan · 24-01-2014 11:49pm

IvaBigWun wrote: »

Actually, is it on *any* UK or Irish channel?

Sony Entertainment Channel (157 on Sky) airs episodes sometimes. Haven't seen them lately but they showed all of season 4 sometime not too long ago. Eventually they'll show season 5 too. Probably in about a year.

zarquon · 25-01-2014 12:01am

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

You won't find it on sky, you'll have to obtain it by other means.

mediahint extension is your friend here

FunLover18 · 25-01-2014 1:03am

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Sony Entertainment Channel (157 on Sky) airs episodes sometimes. Haven't seen them lately but they showed all of season 4 sometime not too long ago. Eventually they'll show season 5 too. Probably in about a year.

It won't be that long, 4 only aired a few months after. I'd say they'll show 5 around May

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