Breaking News - Steven Colvert

RayCun · 13-08-2014 11:02am

average_runner wrote: »

Aye, just seems a strange system, as was drop from the Irish Team when results came out first?

that's fair enough. You couldn't send an athlete to the europeans with that hanging over them, and if the B sample is positive anything he did there would be wiped from the records

average_runner · 13-08-2014 11:20am

RayCun wrote: »

that's fair enough. You couldn't send an athlete to the europeans with that hanging over them, and if the B sample is positive anything he did there would be wiped from the records

Yeah i understand that

gordongekko · 13-08-2014 1:18pm

Any ban will be backdated to reflect the fact that he's not competing

yizorselves · 15-08-2014 4:24pm

He'll be cleared

Oregano_State · 15-08-2014 4:56pm

yizorselves wrote: »

He'll be cleared

what makes you say that?

Enduro · 04-11-2014 2:34pm

The Jeptoo thread reminded me of the fact that there has been no closure here. Anyone actually know what's going on with this case?? I've heard some pretty startling rumours, which are bound to develop considering the apparent complete official silence on the matter.

Condo131 · 04-11-2014 2:52pm

No idea of the status of this, however, the latest IAAF list of athletes sanctioned for anti-doping violations has only Irish athlete listed: Tomas RAUKTYS, who will be eligible to compete from 14 August 2015.

downthemiddle · 05-11-2014 2:38pm

Enduro wrote: »

The Jeptoo thread reminded me of the fact that there has been no closure here. Anyone actually know what's going on with this case?? I've heard some pretty startling rumours, which are bound to develop considering the apparent complete official silence on the matter.

The appeal is still on going so there will be no official announcement until due process is complete.

Dietsquirt · 06-11-2014 3:15pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

The appeal is still on going so there will be no official announcement until due process is complete.

Ball park of when this will be?

Oregano_State · 02-12-2014 8:05am

Just saw on Twitter now that he's been cleared. Will be back with a link.

Murph_D · 02-12-2014 5:40pm

All i saw on twitter was one person saying they'd heard he'd been cleared, but no source provided.

Oregano_State · 02-12-2014 6:23pm

Murph_D wrote: »

All i saw on twitter was one person saying they'd heard he'd been cleared, but no source provided.

Yeah Thomas Chamney was the person I saw who tweeted about it. Couldn't find any article or other link, I assume it will come out over the next day or two if it's true. The JTG lads will know about it before anyone else I'd imagine.

downthemiddle · 04-12-2014 10:39am

Oregano_State wrote: »

Yeah Thomas Chamney was the person I saw who tweeted about it. Couldn't find any article or other link, I assume it will come out over the next day or two if it's true. The JTG lads will know about it before anyone else I'd imagine.

I don't think Colvert will be thanking Chamney for his contribution. He is presenting quite a complex defence and the case is still ongoing.

shels4ever · 09-12-2014 12:22am

downthemiddle wrote: »

I don't think Colvert will be thanking Chamney for his contribution. He is presenting quite a complex defence and the case is still ongoing.

Does that mean the b sample was positive also?

ThisRegard · 16-07-2015 6:24pm

He received his ban today whilst still claiming innocence, he says it's a miscarriage of justice.

2 years backdated to when he tested.

NIMAN · 16-07-2015 9:50pm

How can people continue to claim innocence when their sample has EPO in it?

Just makes them look bad imho.

ThisRegard · 16-07-2015 10:12pm

He's pretty adamant, check out his twitter.

NIMAN · 17-07-2015 5:05am

ThisRegard wrote: »

He's pretty adamant, check out his twitter.

... they all are.

average_runner · 17-07-2015 9:13am

Will the racing community in Ireland treat him the same way they treated Fagan?

pconn062 · 17-07-2015 10:54am

average_runner wrote: »

Will the racing community in Ireland treat him the same way they treated Fagan?

Seen as he's not a marathon runner, most people have no idea who he is so I would guess not. I'm sure him competitors wouldn't be too happy about his return, but the general athletics public in Ireland don't know or care about sprinters and won't even here about this.

Chivito550 · 17-07-2015 11:54am

pconn062 wrote: »

Seen as he's not a marathon runner, most people have no idea who he is so I would guess not. I'm sure him competitors wouldn't be too happy about his return, but the general athletics public in Ireland don't know or care about sprinters and won't even here about this.

Funny thing is that he and Fagan would be of a very similar standard when at their best.

It doesn't sit with me right tbh. Something just doesn't seem right. A 200m runner taking EPO in summer? It doesn't make any sense. In winter yes, but not in summer.

ultrapercy · 17-07-2015 12:18pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Funny thing is that he and Fagan would be of a very similar standard when at their best.

It doesn't sit with me right tbh. Something just doesn't seem right. A 200m runner taking EPO in summer? It doesn't make any sense. In winter yes, but not in summer.

Maybe he confused his summer dose for his winter dose, took the wrong tablet.

Chivito550 · 17-07-2015 12:31pm

ultrapercy wrote: »

Maybe he confused his summer dose for his winter dose, took the wrong tablet.

The only thing I can think of is that he may use EPO in summer to aid recovery so he can hammer out an extra 1-2 hard speed sessions a week. But from what I've heard, he's not the hardest trainer in the world so I can't imagine that to be the case.

I think if a sprinter wants to cheat there's so many better things to be taking. I'm not saying he didn't take it, but if he did I really don't understand why.

average_runner · 17-07-2015 12:44pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

The only thing I can think of is that he may use EPO in summer to aid recovery so he can hammer out an extra 1-2 hard speed sessions a week. But from what I've heard, he's not the hardest trainer in the world so I can't imagine that to be the case.

I think if a sprinter wants to cheat there's so many better things to be taking. I'm not saying he didn't take it, but if he did I really don't understand why.

But didn't Ben Johnson admit he had to take his drugs at the wrong time due to his schedule?

dna_leri · 17-07-2015 1:15pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/18/AR2006081800926.html

The substance for which Jones tested positive is erythropoietin (EPO)... EPO, considered a popular drug among distance runners and cyclists, was not known to be helpful to sprinters until the Balco scandal unfolded. U.S. sprinter Kelli White, who lost two world sprint titles because of drug charges, admitted using it along with steroids.

Victor Conte provided it to Dwain Chambers primarily during the off-season but not necessarily exclusively.

EPO was used three days per week during the "corrective phase", which is the first two weeks of a cycle. Typically, it was on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays. It was only used once per week during the "maintenance phase" thereafter, typically this was every Wednesday. The dosage was 4,000 IU per injection. The purpose was to increase the red blood cell count and enhance oxygen uptake and utilization. This substance provides a big advantage to sprinters because it enables them to do more track repetitions and obtain a much deeper training load during the off season.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/athletics/7403158.stm

Nobody says that is the only drug he was taking, just the only one he was caught for.

TRR_the_turd · 17-07-2015 1:53pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

The only thing I can think of is that he may use EPO in summer to aid recovery so he can hammer out an extra 1-2 hard speed sessions a week. But from what I've heard, he's not the hardest trainer in the world so I can't imagine that to be the case.

I think if a sprinter wants to cheat there's so many better things to be taking. I'm not saying he didn't take it, but if he did I really don't understand why.

maybe he isn't the brightest?

shels4ever · 17-07-2015 10:41pm

Chivito550 wrote: »

Funny thing is that he and Fagan would be of a very similar standard when at their best.

It doesn't sit with me right tbh. Something just doesn't seem right. A 200m runner taking EPO in summer? It doesn't make any sense. In winter yes, but not in summer.

Maybe it was a long term plan, and he was in a building phase and wrote of that summer already. Doesn't really matter why another Irish drug cheat caught.