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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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  • #3252
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    dead one
    Join Date
    23-02-2011

    JC
    Join Date
    23-02-2005

    Interesting ....
    ... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D


  • #3253
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bluewolf wrote: »
    I would also like to add that even if evolution was shown tomorrow to be incorrect, this would still not be any evidence FOR a god.
    It is not a case of:
    no evolution -> therefore my god exists

    more like-

    no evolution -> ??? -> ??? -> therefore A god exists -> this god that exists is my specific god
    -> and He is Jesus Christ !!!:).


  • #3254
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    J C wrote: »
    ... what a co-incidence ... my sixth anniversary!!!!:D
    Congrats.
    That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.


  • #3255
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Congrats.
    That's a very very sad way to use 6 years of your life.

    You're on 5 years!


  • #3256
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    bluewolf wrote: »
    You're on 5 years!

    Yea, but I haven't been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.


  • #3257
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yea, but I having been pretending to be a delusional creationist for all that time.

    you have? :eek:


  • #3258
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,323 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    bluewolf wrote: »
    you have? :eek:

    Typo.
    You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...


  • #3259
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    robindch wrote: »
    I trust you're aware that "uncommondescent" is run by a fundamentalist christian?Yay! JC said this in the BCP thread over the fence years ago, but I was never able to find it.
    ... great minds think alike??:D
    robindch wrote: »
    Good to see christians and islamists doing the ecumenical thing!
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.


  • #3260
    Dexter Hollow Peacock
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dexter Hollow Peacock


    King Mob wrote: »
    Typo.
    You'd think I would have learned how to type in 5 years...

    I know, I just couldn't resist :D


  • #3261
    legspin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,018 ✭✭✭legspin


    J C wrote: »
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

    Given the levels of idiocy and bone-headed ignorance in islam that is hardly surprising.


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  • #3262
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    J C wrote: »
    I know many excellent Creation Scientists who are Muslims.

    No, you don't.


  • #3263
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    No particular reason.

    Why do you repeatedly ask irrelevant questions??

    Irrelevant like most of the stuff on this thread? I asked you because I was curious, if you must know


  • #3264
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Mark Hamill wrote: »
    Your proof is nonsense. Macro evolution is the same as micro evolution, only the timescale is different (see this brilliant post from The Mad Hatter in a different thread...
    ... you forgot to link to my equally brilliant reply ... and it was all in this thread!!!:)


  • #3265
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Youre very quick to jump to a conclusion and then have faithin it...
    But we've known that for a whileen:P
    I didn't jump to any conclusions ... the posters told me about themselves.


  • #3266
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Yippeeee I know that one from my time strumming acoustic at folk masses!!!
    Every body... two, three, four
    HE IS LORD, HE IS LORD
    HE IS RISEN FROM THE DEAD AND HE IS LORD
    EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW, EVERY TOUNGE CONFESS
    THAT JESUS CHRIST IS LORD

    get out those tamborines now!!!
    ... this is the 'official' version:-

    Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

    9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.


  • #3267
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... moving gradually from something simple like from red to blue type isn't what is supposed to have happened with the abiogenesis and the evolution of life ...
    ... which is the equivalent of spontaneously producing a 30 million page encyclopedia (3 billion letters with 100 letters per page) ... with practically no typos ... and every article perfectly co-ordinated and cross-referenced with every other article!!!!

    If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker :/


  • #3268
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    bluewolf wrote: »
    This thread merge?
    Ugh, I give up, I'm not arguing this with wilfully ignorant people telling lies any more
    ... maybe you should try posting on the BCP thread ... instead ... then !!!:D


  • #3269
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    If you must, think of natural selection as a spell checker :/
    ... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... eh?!!!


  • #3270
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    ... an Intelligently Designed spell checker ... OK!!!

    If natural selection were designed by God then it would still be against your beliefs :S


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  • #3271
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    J C wrote: »
    ... this is the 'official' version:-

    Philippians 2:9-11 (New International Version, ©2011)

    9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

    Oh i heard that version in the YMCA in Dublin once. It was in a Minor key and a slightly scary looking guy in a mac whipped out a tambourine half way through and gave it loads.
    Friend of yours?


  • #3272
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    If natural selection were designed by God then it would still be against your beliefs :S
    I meant that all Spell checkers are intelligently designed ... so too are the DNA correction systems as well!!!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair


  • #3273
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    Oh i heard that version in the YMCA in Dublin once. It was in a Minor key and a slightly scary looking guy in a mac whipped out a tambourine half way through and gave it loads.
    Friend of yours?
    Not that I know ... was he a friend of yours??


  • #3274
    housetypeb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Jc, can you please explain to Dead one that the bible is the one true book on the word of god


  • #3275
    housetypeb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Dead one, can you please explain to JC that the Qur'an is the one true book on the word of god.


  • #3276
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    J C wrote: »
    Not that I know ... was he a friend of yours??

    Nah. Terrible sense of rhythm and little flecks of spit kept flying out of his mouth.
    I was only there cos i was after a Ministers daughter. Got her too... filthy little minx she turned out to be:)
    Long haired Goateed Christian guys with guitars always got the girls.. I miss those days:D:D:D


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  • #3277
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Jc, can you please explain to Dead one that the bible is the one true book on the word of god
    I don't need to ... you have just done that !!!!:)
    housetypeb wrote: »
    Dead one, can you please explain to JC that the Qur'an is the one true book on the word of god.
    He doesn't need to ... you've also done that!!!


  • #3278
    Ghost Buster
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Dead one, can you please explain to JC that the Qur'an is the true book on the word of god.

    +1
    perhaps when they meet there will be a loud POP noise as they cancel each other out.


    Oh. Totally off topic but what does this one -:pac:- mean?


  • #3279
    housetypeb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Dead one, can you please explain to JC that the Qur'an is the one true book on the word of god.

    Now i've proved its the qur'an:D:D


  • #3280
    AhSureTisGrand
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    J C wrote: »
    I meant that all Spell checkers are intelligently designed ... so too are the DNA correction systems as well!!!
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA_repair

    Of course it's completely absurd to imagine that these systems developed through evolution


  • #3281
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    AhSureTisGrand wrote: »
    Of course it's completely absurd to imagine that these systems developed through evolution
    In a word ... yes!!!:D


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  • #3282
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Now i've proved its the qur'an:D:D
    I thought that you were into a different book???
    Love and peace to you.


  • #3283
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Where does the stork fit into all this?


  • #3284
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    gbee wrote: »
    Where does the stork fit into all this?

    He shagged your mum


  • #3285
    Zombrex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Jc, can you please explain to Dead one that the bible is the one true book on the word of god

    I suspect you won't see many posts from JC and Dead One at the same time, so you may need to wait about

    I'm guessing they will be separated by, oh I don't know, the time it takes to log out of say a Boards.ie account and then log in again with a different account.

    Just saying, I mean that was an example I picked completely out of the air just to demonstrate a fixed amount of time that just happens to be the same amount of time as that action I described


    ... ahem


  • #3286
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    housetypeb wrote: »
    Dead one, can you please explain to JC that the Qur'an is the one true book on the word of god.

    Housetype of kindness i can't force JC to believe in Quran, but i have very interesting thing, Which Quran said about Christian and that is true here for JC

    In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets.

    "...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

    Isn't it true? after 1400 years


  • #3287
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dead one wrote: »
    Housetype of kindness i can't force JC to believe in Quran, but i have very interesting thing, Which Quran said about Christian and that is true here for JC

    In the Qur'an, Christians are often referred to as among the "People of the Book," i.e. people who have received and believed in previous revelation from God's prophets.

    "...and nearest among them in love to the believers will you find those who say, 'We are Christians,' because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant" (5:82).

    Isn't it true? after 1400 years
    All very true.:)

    Peace and love to you.


  • #3288
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Wicknight wrote: »

    Can I ask do you work in biological research? I'm curious how you are in a position to say that all these scientists are wasting their time and their companies money, or how the results they have already produced are some sort of collective delusion?

    Look my friend there is simple reason, those who deny the existence of God, those who say our creation is a chance, They are still trying and struggling to find chance but it is very true "chance" had no role in creation of universe or anything. They send satellite to find chance of life outside the earth, Infact life on earth is in danger. If all that money is spent on inhabitant of earth, I am sure Africa will rich, where people can't get one time bread.

    Now please tell, Why billion and million of $$$$ are spend to find chance of life outside the earth where those billion and million can save lives of trillions.

    What an irony of chance you are living my friend. Try to be realist. I am talking about evidence and you are talking about theory of chance.


  • #3289
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    Wicknight wrote: »
    I suspect you won't see many posts from JC and Dead One at the same time, so you may need to wait about

    I'm guessing they will be separated by, oh I don't know, the time it takes to log out of say a Boards.ie account and then log in again with a different account.

    Just saying, I mean that was an example I picked completely out of the air just to demonstrate a fixed amount of time that just happens to be the same amount of time as that action I described


    ... ahem
    Wicknight ... I can assure you that we are different people ... and I don't know dead one personally!!!

    ... and Robin has already confirmed this
    wrote:
    Originally Posted by robindch
    Good to see christians and islamists doing the ecumenical thing!


  • #3290
    dead one
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,320 ✭✭✭dead one


    Ghost Buster wrote: »
    +1
    perhaps when they meet there will be a loud POP noise as they cancel each other out.
    Oh. Totally off topic but what does this one -:pac:- mean?
    Just a theory, guesswork like evolution,:p. I don't know when you get rid of guess work / chance

    Here is evidence, Please rub your eyes.
    J C wrote: »
    All very true.:)
    Peace and love to you.


  • #3291
    sponsoredwalk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭sponsoredwalk


    I don't have time to go back and read the last 20 pages of this thread but
    are there two of them now or is it just JC in two different accounts?

    Just as god is the father, the son & the holy ghost now the son has
    become JC & dead one The evolutionary tree of the holiest of the holy is

    69385110.jpg

    becoming quite strange to say the least...


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  • #3292
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    dead one wrote: »
    Just a theory, guesswork like evolution,:p. I don't know when you get rid of guess work / chance

    Here is evidence, Please rub your eyes.
    All very true.:pac:


  • #3293
    J C
    Registered Users Posts: 14,615 ✭✭✭✭J C


    sponsoredwalk wrote: »
    I don't have time to go back and read the last 20 pages of this thread but
    are there two of them now or is it just JC in two different accounts?

    Just as god is the father, the son & the holy ghost now the son has
    become JC & dead one The evolutionary tree of the holiest of the holy is

    69385110.jpg

    becoming quite strange to say the least...
    ... two persons with one (ultimate) God.


  • #3294
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    I propose a JC vs Jobee thread.

    taking all bets! its Krazier vs Krazier, clashin rods in john of gods! ,Debatin' under sedation!


  • #3295
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    dead one wrote: »
    Infact life on earth is in danger. .

    We should have been off this God forsaken rock ages ago.

    This planet is killing us, we are dying relatively young due to background radiation which is considered 'normal' ~ it's only considered so because we just don't know better right now.

    Our planet is unstable and had totally destroyed all life and partially destroyed all life many times over. The emergence of man was ironically due to a series of world wide extinction events which wiped out the dominant species at that time.

    These forces are still active today, we can expect the super volcano in Yellow Stone to change the world and throw us back to the Stoneage.

    We have vast quantities of absorbed CO2 which is or has reached saturation point in the seabed and is about to be released, plunging us back into the Ice Ages.

    We have long distant contact with an unknown body that has entered our near system and may be tracking towards us, its arrival will be chaotic and more destructive than the Moon's arrival.

    The Moon itself is moving away from us with acceleration and will cause orbit fluctuations, wobbles and tidal tsunamis on massive scales.

    The Sun blasts us with destructive CMEs from time to time, one large one could wipe out all electronic technology leaving us without money or power. A more ferocious event could stripe the planets surface like an orange obliterating all life and leaving the earth a desolate rock, never again to see life for eternity.

    If religion had not held us back, we might, just might have figured out just how badly off we are on this rock and done something about it.


  • #3296
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    gbee wrote: »
    We should have been off this God forsaken rock ages ago.

    This planet is killing us, we are dying relatively young due to background radiation which is considered 'normal' ~ it's only considered so because we just don't know better right now.

    Our planet is unstable and had totally destroyed all life and partially destroyed all life many times over. The emergence of man was ironically due to a series of world wide extinction events which wiped out the dominant species at that time.

    These forces are still active today, we can expect the super volcano in Yellow Stone to change the world and throw us back to the Stoneage.

    We have vast quantities of absorbed CO2 which is or has reached saturation point in the seabed and is about to be released, plunging us back into the Ice Ages.

    We have long distant contact with an unknown body that has entered our near system and may be tracking towards us, its arrival will be chaotic and more destructive than the Moon's arrival.

    The Moon itself is moving away from us with acceleration and will cause orbit fluctuations, wobbles and tidal tsunamis on massive scales.

    The Sun blasts us with destructive CMEs from time to time, one large one could wipe out all electronic technology leaving us without money or power. A more ferocious event could stripe the planets surface like an orange obliterating all life and leaving the earth a desolate rock, never again to see life for eternity.

    If religion had not held us back, we might, just might have figured out just how badly off we are on this rock and done something about it.


    wait...what?

    are we going back to the stone age or the ice age? because the stone age in ireland was warmer than today and i want to know what to pack

    how could teh moon moving away from us cause tsunamis?

    whats the unknown body? if its unknown how do we know its coming for us?

    how can life have been totally wiped out many times? unless were all zombies.

    This is more confusing than the last time i saw a female body builder


  • #3297
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    sensibleken wrote: »
    wait...what? This is more confusing than the last time i saw a female body builder

    I know, I'm expecting to be speaking to the converted so I've synopsised commonly known events. Just highlighting how fragile our planet is, and it's still the same way.

    We face horrifying world changing events or even total obliteration. Many of these repeat events are geologically overdue, it depends on which one happens as to which fate we suffer ~ we only die once, but in our absence either in the past or in the future some of these event will happen again and again.

    We live on a borrowed planet.


  • #3298
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    gbee wrote: »
    I know, I'm expecting to be speaking to the converted so I've synopsised commonly known events. Just highlighting how fragile our planet is, and it's still the same way.

    We face horrifying world changing events or even total obliteration. Many of these repeat events are geologically overdue, it depends on which one happens as to which fate we suffer ~ we only die once, but in our absence either in the past or in the future some of these event will happen again and again.

    We live on a borrowed planet.

    ah it'll be grand.

    the moon moving away wont make any odds. the super volcano thing might happen it might not, either way no point worrying about it. theres always been world changing horrifying events at every point in history. you just hear about them more because of the 24 hour mass media.

    even if we do go back to the stone age it wont be too bad. What what i've seen the neolithic looked pretty sweet.


  • #3299
    Sam Vimes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    sensibleken wrote: »
    how could teh moon moving away from us cause tsunamis?

    The moon doesn't cause tsunamis at all:

    http://wcatwc.arh.noaa.gov/tsunami2.htm

    Tsunamis, also called seismic sea waves or, incorrectly, tidal waves, generally are caused by earthquakes, less commonly by submarine landslides, infrequently by submarine volcanic eruptions and very rarely by a large meteorite impact in the ocean.


  • #3300
    gbee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,388 ✭✭✭gbee


    Sam Vimes wrote: »
    The moon doesn't cause tsunamis at all:.

    No it doesn't, nor did I say it does. The Moon is moving away, slowly but accelerating, it's final departure is thought to be sudden and the release of its gravitational hold will cause turmoil in the seas and massive flooding before it settles down again.


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  • #3301
    sensibleken
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    gbee wrote: »
    No it doesn't, nor did I say it does. The Moon is moving away, slowly but accelerating, it's final departure is thought to be sudden and the release of its gravitational hold will cause turmoil in the seas and massive flooding before it settles down again.

    yeah you did
    gbee wrote: »

    The Moon itself is moving away from us with acceleration and will cause orbit fluctuations, wobbles and tidal tsunamis on massive scales.


    theres the words there.

    I think your imagining the moon tied to the earth with a rubberband and if it snaps all the water will fling around.

    it doesnt work like that and neither will there be a sudden departure. and if it did the water would all swish around causing flooding.


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