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    #92
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users Posts: 7,409 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    on behalf of all blueballs sufferers i strongly disagree with eramen


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    #93
    1ZRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,293 ✭✭✭1ZRed


    Eramen, we get it, you were addicted to porn. That's great that you overcame it but keep your plans of widespread masturbation/porn bans to yourself.
    It's just going to be like fighting the tide, it's too powerful a natural instinct to beat off, and if not to porn, you've got one amazing imagination to fill the void quite well. You'll never win.


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    #94
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Eramen, What if i told you that i find your posts highly erotic and was engaged in furiously self abuse as i read them? Would you say that boards.ie was socially destructive and should be shut down?

    I think that's hilarious :D

    I don't think that porn should be completely shut down, but Porn/Masturbation addiction needs to be bought to public attention and education needs to happen in an array of different ways, community, in the media and governmental. We are seeing the same happening right now with online gambling and gaming addiction. We seen it happen with tobacco and fast food.

    Porn is not a guilty little pleasure anymore, of paper mags or tame video; its a fully blown industry which exists to make money by getting people using it for the long term. It's much like a drug, leading at times to more explicit material, leading in turn to more more reliance on porn for sexual pleasure at the expense of social needs and responsibility.

    The industry needs tighter regulation in all senses, as all potentailly harmful industries have gone through. It's a life-cycle of such industries and porn is approaching such a stage. We have 40k Fapstronauts on one site! Even pornstars are calling for such regulation as wages can become more fixed and conditions safer.

    Check out www.yourbrainonporn.com . It'll really bring together what I'm seeking to highlight, boards has limited space and I have limited time :)


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    #95
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    1ZRed wrote: »
    Eramen, we get it, you were addicted to porn. That's great that you overcame it but keep your plans of widespread masturbation/porn bans to yourself.
    It's just going to be like fighting the tight, it's too powerful a natural instinct to beat off, and if not to porn, you've got one amazing imagination to fill the void quite well. You'll never win.



    I myself was never highly addicted, but I was a regular user. I beat it on my first try purely because I wanted to exercise more self-control over myself and my life, and to use my time better. I also felt that porn was a delusion, a fantasy that was not beneficial to myself or others.

    However the other benefits I did not expect are numerous and valuable. |This is exactly why I even bothered to comment on this thread and changed my sig to NoFap lol. If you think you have what is takes, take the challenge so can experience it for yourself. Even if just for fun, but on a serious level.

    You won't know what porn/masturbation is to you and in general until you quit for a specific amount of time. If porn isn't a big deal, then all the more reason to join us on No Fap for support and camaraderie.


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    #96
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    This is gone beyond weird...


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    #97
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    thebigbiffo wrote: »
    This is gone beyond weird...

    New ideas (with a pinch of honesty) are confusing, I get it ;) Onward!


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    #98
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Eramen wrote: »
    New ideas (with a pinch of honesty) are confusing, I get it ;) Onward!

    New ideas?........... Catholic church circa 1950 more like.


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    #99
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    mikom wrote: »
    New ideas?........... Catholic church circa 1950 more like.



    You still didn't read the latest science behind it? I did provide links..

    Less ideology, more honesty!


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    #100
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Eramen wrote: »
    New ideas (with a pinch of honesty) are confusing, I get it ;) Onward!

    Agree with mikom on this. Your view that rampant masturbation is ruining society is like something from a satire of the church - like something you'd see on The Savage Eye.


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    #101
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Larry Murphy should have had a **** rather than a rape.


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    #102
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    mikom wrote: »
    Larry Murphy should have had a **** rather than a rape.

    somebody's going to make a connection between larry and internetz porn now. ffs mikom what ya thinking!


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    #103
    RossFixxxed
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Eramen: You are waaaay overcompensating for your past addiction. Ex smokers, ex drinkers (and I'm one of them) always end up bemoaning the dangers of something WE ourselves got hooked on. Plenty of people and couples enjoy a bit of porn... where is the harm?

    Chocolate addiction is possible, ban chocolate, we are second class citizens due to chocolate.

    It's your own failings that have you up at arms about this. I've been there man, and I was wrong, wrong, wrong. Don't tell people what to do, and don't blame all societies ills on one thing you ****ed up with.

    Male Circumcision and Female are DIFFERENT THINGS!! Male does NEED to be done sometimes for actual medical reasons. I had to get it done. With women it removes ANY chance at sexual pleasure, not so in men (phew!)


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    #104
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    RossFixxxed wrote: »
    Eramen: You are waaaay overcompensating for your past addiction. Ex smokers, ex drinkers (and I'm one of them) always end up bemoaning the dangers of something WE ourselves got hooked on. Plenty of people and couples enjoy a bit of porn... where is the harm?

    Chocolate addiction is possible, ban chocolate, we are second class citizens due to chocolate.

    It's your own failings that have you up at arms about this. I've been there man, and I was wrong, wrong, wrong. Don't tell people what to do, and don't blame all societies ills on one thing you ****ed up with.


    I expected you to all be porn addicted **** tbh. It's not the point however.

    I'm speaking about the regeneration of men and culture, and ending habitual, addictive PornMasturbationOrgasm as a method of self-control, to enable you to become the architect of your own life. Nothing more, nothing less.

    **** will not understand, unless they challenge themselves to give it up for a period. I am simply challenging your assumptions.


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    #105
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    There is none so zealous and pious as a reformed whore, and none so intolerably fixated on their own perceived failing being everyone's.


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    #106
    Sauve
    Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Eramen wrote: »
    Female circumcision = bad, male circumcision= good wtf?! .

    Wow.
    This is hands down, one of the most ignorant sentences I've read on here in a long time.


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    #107
    Duggy747
    Registered Users Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Eramen wrote: »
    I expected you to all be porn addicted **** tbh. It's not the point however.

    I'm speaking about the regeneration of men and culture, and ending habitual, addictive PornMasturbationOrgasm as a method of self-control, to enable you to become the architect of your own life. Nothing more, nothing less.

    **** will not understand, unless they challenge themselves to give it up for a period. I am simply challenging your assumptions.

    Come down off from your high horse there for a second.

    If you need to remove porn in other to have self-control over your life then you have more deep-rooted problems which need more attention than blaming society's problems on your own failings.
    Eramen wrote:
    Female circumcision = bad, male circumcision= good wtf?! .

    What the fùck, where did this come from?


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    #108
    thebigbiffo
    Registered Users Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    Eramen wrote: »
    No, it's one facet that's leading to to degradation of men. You have eyes? Men are treated like shíte by the establishment now. The media, govt, think-tanks and universities. We are expendable. Female circumcision = bad, male circumcision= good wtf?! The suicide rate of men and Irish men is one of the highest in the world, the media stays silent.. Men are to blame for all bad things, all of the time, especially for oppressing 'everything'. Men are constantly overruled and punished in the family courts with no motive other then their sex, get no say on abortion or non-abortion of the child, must constantly apologise for 'past guilt' because apparently we inherited something to apologise for in a collective way. Screw this.

    You're asking me to be delusional and say it's all okay, well it's not. Stop pandering on about the church like an infant, like anyone even is talking about it. Man up dammit! We have brains for a reason.

    how you are equating any of this with a **** addiction is actually beyond me. we all know suicide, sexism within family law, degeneration of society in general etc are problems - but do you really really believe that men just need to stop masturbating to turn their lives around. Dude, you're delusional.

    And female circumcision?? You can write, but you're obviously not educated. You can compare male/female circumcision. For a start, there is no medical usage for female circumcision but there is for men - I know! female circumcision is inherently sexist and oppressive.

    Listen, I respect your motives at this stage - but your logic is COMPLETELY wrong. I'm prepared to admit that for some small amount of people yes, problematic sexual compulsion can be compounded by ease of access to pornography. But your assertion that masturbation is one of the reasons why society and men in particular have problems is simply ludicrous.

    Sometimes I wonder why I bother. This is the most insane internet argument I've ever had.


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    #109
    RossFixxxed
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    The point is though that (and I can only speak for myself) it is something I could give or take. I might not look at it for six or more months... It's not a big deal. That's why your point is totally irrelevant and non applicable for most people.

    WOMEN use it too.
    I expected you to all be porn addicted **** tbh
    O...k... that's lovely. I see now how blinkered you are. It's hard to talk to someone wading in like that. Say I said I expected you to be a shut in weirdo who is so obsessed with porn he has to go on about how bad it is all day? That's presumptious too...

    A small river used to flow close to their monastery. Walking slowly, meditatively they came across the river. There was no boat men in the river.

    Instead of boatmen, one beautiful young lady was waiting for the boat man to cross the river. The Sun was about to set and darkness was spreading its kingdom.

    They waited for some time for the boat men and eventually decided to cross the river on their own. One monk who was Young carried the lady on his shoulder and three of them crossed the river. On other side of river, lady thanked the monks and went on her way and two monk started moving towards their monastery meditatively.

    Meditation the very breath of their all actions. After some time Old monk broke the silence "I will tell everything to master"
    The Young Monk asked surprisingly "what will you tell to master"

    Old Monk said " you are spoiled , you have carried the woman on your shoulders, its sin to touch a woman for a monk"

    Young Monk replied "I had dropped the woman at river bank only.''
    But you are still carrying her in your head"




    YOU are still carrying it in your head. Obsessively by the look of it. You are making huge presumptions and wild generalisations. Sorry man but you are sinking yourself. This is an interesting topic delivered like an ex addicts polemic about the thing he is clearly still addicted to. I do wish you well, but maybe seek addiction councelling and be nicer to yourself. (NO not in THAT WAY ;) )


    The above posters have also pointed out how uneducated your points are so it is maybe best you step away?


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    #110
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Sauve wrote: »
    Wow.
    This is hands down, one of the most ignorant sentences I've read on here in a long time.

    You support the abusing and mutilation of children (for non-medical reasons)? That's totally sick man.


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    #111
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,438 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Eramen wrote: »
    I expected you to all be porn addicted **** tbh. It's not the point however.

    I'm speaking about the regeneration of men and culture, and ending habitual, addictive PornMasturbationOrgasm as a method of self-control, to enable you to become the architect of your own life. Nothing more, nothing less.

    **** will not understand, unless they challenge themselves to give it up for a period. I am simply challenging your assumptions.
    I think all you're doing to be honest is writing waffling, nonsensical posts.

    Your comparison of male and female circumcision gives me the impression that you're making it up as you go along. :)


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    #112
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Come down off from your high horse there for a second.

    If you need to remove porn in other to have self-control over your life then you have more deep-rooted problems which need more attention than blaming society's problems on your own failings.



    What the fùck, where did this come from?



    No, I'm challenging your assumptions, did you even read any of the scientific data I presented to you?


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    #113
    Sauve
    Registered Users Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Eramen wrote: »

    You support the abusing and mutilation of children (for non-medical reasons)? That's totally sick man.

    Err no.
    Not at all, and I have no idea where you pulled that assumption from tbh.


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    #114
    RossFixxxed
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭RossFixxxed


    Eramen wrote: »
    You support the abusing and mutilation of children (for non-medical reasons)? That's totally sick man.

    That is the single stupidest, most blinkered thing you have posted. They are NOT saying that and you know better. They ARE NOT THE SAME THING. You clearly have NO clue what you are talking about and this pathetic, over dramatic, teenage answer speaks volumes about you. I'm staggered. This is like watching someone juggling 3 loaded guns around their head. It's funny and entertaining but sooner or later you're going to shoot yourself in the face.


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    #115
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    awec wrote: »
    I think all you're doing to be honest is writing waffling, nonsensical posts.

    Your comparison of male and female circumcision gives me the impression that you're making it up as you go along. :)



    Check out the links, there is actual logical, researched data behind it. Stop making stuff up.


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    #116
    Cienciano
    Registered Users Posts: 14,232 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Eramen wrote: »
    No, it's one facet that's leading to to degradation of men. You have eyes? Men are treated like shíte by the establishment now. The media, govt, think-tanks and universities. We are expendable. Female circumcision = bad, male circumcision= good wtf?! The suicide rate of men and Irish men is one of the highest in the world, the media stays silent.. Men are to blame for all bad things, all of the time, especially for oppressing 'everything'. Men are constantly overruled and punished in the family courts with no motive other then their sex, get no say on abortion or non-abortion of the child, must constantly apologise for 'past guilt' because apparently we inherited something to apologise for in a collective way. Screw this.

    You're asking me to be delusional and say it's all okay, well it's not. Stop pandering on about the church like an infant, like anyone even is talking about it. Man up dammit! We have brains for a reason.
    And having a harry hank is the reason for all this?


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    #117
    granturismo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭granturismo


    Eramen wrote: »
    ... boards has limited space and I have limited time :)

    No and definitely No.


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    #118
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 53,438 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Eramen wrote: »
    Check out the links, there is actual logical, researched data behind it. Stop making stuff up.
    Do you know the difference between male and female circumcision?

    If so, why did you make that ridiculous point?

    If not, why did you make that ridiculous point?


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    #119
    Eramen
    Registered Users Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Eramen


    RossFixxxed wrote: »
    That is the single stupidest, most blinkered thing you have posted. They are NOT saying that and you know better. They ARE NOT THE SAME THING. You clearly have NO clue what you are talking about and this pathetic, over dramatic, teenage answer speaks volumes about you. I'm staggered. This is like watching someone juggling 3 loaded guns around their head. It's funny and entertaining but sooner or later you're going to shoot yourself in the face.



    Well, I know it's my fault. Trying to have a real discussion with Irish people on AH. It's a recipe for disaster. You came too late to it :P

    Nice job on seeking to claim the 'superior moral high-ground' btw.


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    #120
    Brain Stroking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭Brain Stroking


    Eramen wrote: »
    Female circumcision = bad, male circumcision= good wtf?!

    Lord for someone with their finger on the pulse of sexual mores and tastes, you've dropped the ball there. Big time.

    As a man who has been circumcised (during his adult years) and has also helped African girls/families who were/are victims of the horrific thing that is FGM, you high-follutin big words have suddenly lost their pious sheen ;)


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    #121
    hooradiation
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Eramen wrote: »
    Well, I know it's my fault.

    You are correct, but not for the reasons you gave.


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