TUF 20 - Pettis, Melendez, Aisling Daly SPOILERS See Mod Note OP

Mellor · 01-12-2014 1:41pm

MagicIRL wrote: »

I reckon she'll give every one of those fighters a problem if she's matched against them and could easily take that belt when the official division launches,

The first official fights in the division were last July. There's been 4 so far I think.
Some fighters opted to not enter the TUF house, and to start the division instead. The first champ will be from the series, but the first challanger might not be.

But the right win post finale could literally out anyone in contention in these early days.

JohnMc1 · 01-12-2014 2:30pm

califano wrote: »

Pro fighters!. Those girls dont make a living from this.

If you get paid to fight then you are a Pro Fighter.

Wrongway1985 · 01-12-2014 11:50pm

Angela Magana rang into the MMA hour says she wants to fight Heather and a rematch with Ais but referred to her as Albert Daly.

Whoever her next opponent is clearly isn't one of them but said she robbed an item of clothing from whoever it is and is undergoing some ritual thingy to help defeat her :eek::eek::eek:

Ariel dealt with her brilliantly to be fair calling her out and baffled by her agenda as to why she was ringing in.

Zero-Cool · 01-12-2014 11:58pm

She keeps posting naked pics of herself as well although id FAR prefer to see Ais bate the face off her while she's trapped against the fence. I can see her being a female Junie Browning from TUF 8.

Mellor · 02-12-2014 12:18am

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Angela Magana rang into the MMA hour says she wants to fight Heather and a rematch with Ais but referred to her as Albert Daly.

Whoever her next opponent is clearly isn't one of them but said she robbed an item of clothing from whoever it is and is undergoing some ritual thingy to help defeat her :eek::eek::eek:

Ariel dealt with her brilliantly to be fair calling her out and baffled by her agenda as to why she was ringing in.

Haven't heard it yet, but based on that description she's facing one of the rd1 defeats on the ass end of the undercard. Heather and Angela are likely on the main card along with the other SF's.

Heater v Ais would be a match I'd like to see.
Thug Rose/Jo-Jo/Tecia/Carla not so much (initially)

ps3man · 02-12-2014 3:03am

Just went onto Magana's twitter. She is absolutely delusional..

ps3man · 04-12-2014 4:10am

Anybody else watching? Really hoping Tecia does it..

Mellor · 04-12-2014 7:22am

I think the final will be Jo-Jo and Carla

stiffler123 · 04-12-2014 8:03am

Great fight between Jojo and Rose, fight of the season so far. I hope Rose takes the belt. She's a beast, constantly attacking off her back too. Markos will be a tough fight for her though.

pablohoney87 · 04-12-2014 11:04am

Finale fights announced. Reckon Ais will take an early win here.

Hope Lisa Ellis shows up too.

Joanne Calderwood vs. Seo Hee Ham
Tecia Torres vs. Angela Magana
Aisling Daly vs. Alex Chambers
Felice Herrig vs. Lisa Ellis
Bec Rawlings vs. Heather Jo Clark Emily
Kagan vs. Angela Hill

Mellor · 04-12-2014 2:35pm

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Aisling Daly vs. Alex Chambers

FFS
The only match up I didn't want to see coming out of this season.

pablohoney87 · 04-12-2014 3:43pm

Mellor wrote: »

FFS
The only match up I didn't want to see coming out of this season.

Yeah they seemed to get along. I've think Ais has said some nice stuff about her but I don't think its much of a challenge for her tbh.

Wrongway1985 · 04-12-2014 10:10pm

Thought Tecia won the first round of her bout with Carla, again consistency with takedowns being stuffed a problem should've went another round IMO. Tecia only has herself to blame though again choosing to remain very standoffish when Carla was potentially there for the taking.

Ya Rose and Jojo would like to see fight again fight of the sason I'd say too.

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

maybe on the show she pulls off quick subs leading to the Ronda comparisons? Shocks Jojo if she get past Chambers too maybe?

Hmmm quoting myself :rolleyes: Great job for Rose to pull off the sub but still not seeing the Ronda comparisons....Spoofin' outta from Dana all but confirmed.

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Aisling Daly vs. Alex Chambers

Ah balls thats not that interesting was hopin for one of those scrapettes

All in all looks like I'll see this season through but all the hype for the next prob won't bring me back unless it involves Irelands own most likely. Was miles better than last season but thats not saying much, didn't see the last season through after Pendred was done so was I pretty much.

Roar · 04-12-2014 11:13pm

That was some fight between JoJo and Rose. Rose was so good off her back, a really dangerous and active guard. That kimura was beautiful. Fight of the season.

Devastator · 06-12-2014 8:47pm

pablohoney87 wrote: »

Joanne Calderwood vs. Seo Hee Ham

who? was she in the UF?

I would have liked Ais to get one of the bully clique but she can only fight whats in front of her.

I didn't expect Jo to get beat in last episode but way to go Rose, that girl is a grinder! She wasn't for letting anyone or anything stop her winning that fight.

Mellor · 07-12-2014 1:16am

Devastator wrote: »

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who? was she in the UF?

Not she wasn't on the show. She's a japanese fighter, with about 20 fights. She was one of the fighters who signed with the UFC directly.

Devastator · 08-12-2014 1:32pm

Worth a read and sounds like the preview scene with Ais collapsed may have been due to heat stroke

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/ufc/11273728/TUF-20-Aisling-Daly-prepared-for-finale-in-Las-Vegas-this-weekend.html

Zero-Cool · 08-12-2014 11:32pm

Just got around to seeing last weeks episode. Tecia fight should have definitely gone to the 3rd. That amount of stuffed takedowns shoukd score more than the couple of successful ones. I was roaring at tecia to counter the td, knee choke anything. Can't stand that 'hug someone till you win on points. Sickened for jojo but fair play to rose. She tried to win on her feet and constantly went for the sub on the ground, proper fighting.

Looking forward to the finale card Friday.

Devastator · 09-12-2014 12:27am

sheehy83 wrote: »

Looking forward to the finale card Friday.

Don't forget semi's on Wednesday night too, might be replayed before finale kicks off

Zero-Cool · 09-12-2014 12:30am

Devastator wrote: »

Don't forget semi's on Wednesday night too, might be replayed before finale kicks off

Aw ya hoping penne breaks carla in 2. Rose randa should be a great fight but can't wait to see how ais gets on Friday. Will John and paddy be in her corner?

Mellor · 09-12-2014 2:01am

sheehy83 wrote: »

Just got around to seeing last weeks episode. Tecia fight should have definitely gone to the 3rd. That amount of stuffed takedowns shoukd score more than the couple of successful ones.

A third might have been interesting. But Tecia lost both rounds, clearly.
Stuffing a TD means nothing if you don't do anything else. As in, if somebody shoots 5 times, is only succeeds once, if the other person has done literally nothing else, they are losing the fight.

Wrongway1985 · 11-12-2014 4:01am

Starting now

Wrongway1985 · 11-12-2014 4:57am

Rose knows her subs!

Wrongway1985 · 11-12-2014 4:59am

Feel sorry for Randa, good season nothing great obviously but I've lasted this long so yeah

Wrongway1985 · 11-12-2014 5:02am

On that TUF talk poll... who will win the belt currently Carla 13% Rose 87% is it that clear?

Mellor · 11-12-2014 11:22pm

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Rose knows her subs!

Her striking is supposed to be her strength also.

I like Randa, she looks decent, and I'd like to see her fight ezparza down the line. But wtf was she thinking not defending the kimura, espectially after Rose tapped Jojo with it last time.

Esparza looks solid in all her matches, but she didn't live up to her billign as #1 for me.

Zero-Cool · 11-12-2014 11:32pm

Very disappointed with penne, she was a diffetent fighter than what she was against Ais. Maybe it was fatigue but she is a lot better than that. Rose is gonna maul esparza.

Randa is a great fighter as well, will be rooting for her, ais and Jojo tomorrow night.

So, will this be the thread for the fight card tomorrow night. Weigh ins at midnight.

Wrongway1985 · 11-12-2014 11:56pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

Very disappointed with penne, she was a diffetent fighter than what she was against Ais. Maybe it was fatigue but she is a lot better than that. Rose is gonna maul esparza.

Randa is a great fighter as well, will be rooting for her, ais and Jojo tomorrow night.

So, will this be the thread for the fight card tomorrow night. Weigh ins at midnight.

Jessica is a decent fighter but im still not sure if Straw weight is beyond her as regards competing for the title (even if she bet Ais who is essentially a flyweight) Jury's out.

Like Randa too but see flat out got caught maybe one of those that could go differently in the future

Makes sense to be the thread I see theres already a thread for the Stipe/Dos Santos card.

Will watch weigh ins thanks for the heads up

Mellor wrote: »

Esparza looks solid in all her matches, but she didn't live up to her billign as #1 for me.

Ya me neither she just seemed to slide into the final without impressing at all (her sub coming against last ranked) hopefully that pattern doesn't follow on in the finale

Wrongway1985 · 12-12-2014 1:09am

Ais weighed 2 pounds over

thehairyone · 12-12-2014 1:15am

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Ais weighed 2 pounds over

She looked terrible, has an hour to lose the 2 pounds.

Wrongway1985 · 12-12-2014 1:21am

thehairyone wrote: »

She looked terrible, has an hour to lose the 2 pounds.

Ya Randa didn't look great either straight for the bottle then of course when 116 was called

Zero-Cool · 12-12-2014 1:31am

My stream went mad when ais came on, so did she weigh 118? That will have to have an effect on her tomorrow night. Is pound an a half acceptible as in 116.5 and then half pound for title fight?

ShaneU · 12-12-2014 1:32am

The Esparza vs Penne fight was terrible, was more like an amateur boxing match than MMA. I fancy thug rose to win tomorrow.

Lenin Skynard · 12-12-2014 1:36am

sheehy83 wrote: »

My stream went mad when ais came on, so did she weigh 118? That will have to have an effect on her tomorrow night. Is pound an a half acceptible as in 116.5 and then half pound for title fight?

No she'll have to get 116 or under. Such a shame, missing weight on your UFC debut won't exactly endear you to your new bosses. And by the look of her, she probably won't even try to cut the rest which will make her paycheck 20% lighter (or is it 40%?).

Zero-Cool · 12-12-2014 1:40am

Ah ****e man, pity there isn't a wimmins fly weight.

xtal191 · 12-12-2014 1:53am

Ais looked terrible and she wont be cutting any more weight, loses 20% of her fight purse.

Gumbi · 12-12-2014 2:08am

Very unprofessional

Gumbi · 12-12-2014 2:09am

Very unprofessional

Zero-Cool · 12-12-2014 2:14am

Bad start. Hopefully she has a dominant win to make up for it.

Mellor · 12-12-2014 3:41am

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Like Randa too but see flat out got caught maybe one of those that could go differently in the future

I think he thought Rose wouldbn't get it.
Rose had the figure 4 grip for 10 seconds or more before the sub. Randa left the hand free and tried to pass. Maybe she just under estimated her grappling.

thehairyone wrote: »

She looked terrible, has an hour to lose the 2 pounds.

sheehy83 wrote: »

My stream went mad when ais came on, so did she weigh 118? That will have to have an effect on her tomorrow night. Is pound an a half acceptible as in 116.5 and then half pound for title fight?

No.
1lb for non-title fights, 0lbs for title fights.

The doctor would let her cut any more (according to Alex's coach) and Alex accepted the fight as is.

darced · 12-12-2014 9:49am

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Mr. Manager · 12-12-2014 10:07am

darced wrote: »

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That fight was about 10 weeks ago... You can't say she was overweight then as she probably hadn't even began cutting.

darced · 12-12-2014 10:41am

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Mellor · 12-12-2014 10:42am

Life Degen wrote: »

That fight was about 10 weeks ago... You can't say she was overweight then as she probably hadn't even began cutting.

If you have to cut any more than a few kg's to get to fight weight, then you're overweight.

To be clear, I consider fight weight to be your weight 7 days out. Essentially close to the weight you'll be in the cage.

Devastator · 12-12-2014 11:33am

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

On that TUF talk poll... who will win the belt currently Carla 13% Rose 87% is it that clear?

Maybe the general public have not liked Carla's role in the bullying/bitching that went on during the series? UFC posted on twitter to retweet who you want to win and Carla currently has 137 compared to a whooping 863 for Rose so virtually identical figures.

darced wrote: »

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At her odds I see it as too much of a risk considering what everyone has said and also Ais missing weight. She didn't look to steady on her feet during the weigh ins either

Hopefully none of this matters and Ais gets a win tonight. Weigh in video below

http://youtu.be/0cGHe6xf-0U?t=2m54s

Mr. Manager · 12-12-2014 12:58pm

Mellor wrote: »

If you have to cut any more than a few kg's to get to fight weight, then you're overweight.

To be clear, I consider fight weight to be your weight 7 days out. Essentially close to the weight you'll be in the cage.

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my statement or not..

Just out of curiosity, how would you define a few kg's? A friend of mine recently cut 7kg a week out from his fight. What would be your take on that?

MartyMcFly84 · 12-12-2014 3:12pm

There is a difference between loosing weight(body fat and a little muscle) and weight cutting.

Through diet and training you should get into a good position to limit the amount you need to cut.

The cutting process is a fine line, where you shed water weight. It has a positive effect up to a point allowing you to quickly up your weight after weigh ins, but if rely on the cut to loose to much weight you drain your body to a point where its very hard to bounce back and perform close your ability.

The amount you can loose depends on the person , sex, your size and body comp. The bigger you are generally the more weight you can cut.

So big difference your mate dropping 7kg in a week and a small girl trying to cut the same weight.

Mellor · 12-12-2014 3:14pm

Life Degen wrote: »

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with my statement or not..

Just out of curiosity, how would you define a few kg's? A friend of mine recently cut 7kg a week out from his fight. What would be your take on that?

Basically, imo every fighter has their "fight weight", which is the weight they can cut from a week out. This obviously varies depending on the fighter and the weight limit.
But beyond that, your overweight. Be it 5lbs or 25lbs.

As for your friend, if he made the cut, then it was within range. 7kg is a normal weight cut, size depending.

Kazooie · 12-12-2014 4:53pm

What I find strange is she must have made weight twice in the tuf house. A place where we saw her struggle. And now with a full proper training camp, back home where shes more comfortable she can't. Thinking about it they didn't show anyone struggling to make weight apart from the Justine girl. Usually theres a few close calls the seasons I've watched at least. Did they actually fight at 115 on the show?

Devastator · 12-12-2014 8:15pm

Kazooie wrote: »

What I find strange is she must have made weight twice in the tuf house. A place where we saw her struggle. And now with a full proper training camp, back home where shes more comfortable she can't. Thinking about it they didn't show anyone struggling to make weight apart from the Justine girl. Usually theres a few close calls the seasons I've watched at least. Did they actually fight at 115 on the show?

Well yes, but during the filming of TUF she was based in Vegas for the duration and probably didn't need to cut much knowing the type of competition. I think(Im sure someone with a better understanding can confirm or deny) that flying, temp.difference, etc between Dublin & Vegas a week(or 2 maybe) before a fight could throw the body into disarray making the weight cut more difficult

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