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Lets all be anxious/depressed together.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Hersheys


    Yes I have a GP visit card but have never gone to the doctor about depression or anxiety before.
    Hmmm. Well your best bet is to talk to your GP and explain the issue. Due to doctor patient confidentiality they are legally obliged not to tell your parents what's going on, so there's no issue there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Hersheys wrote: »
    Hmmm. Well your best bet is to talk to your GP and explain the issue. Due to doctor patient confidentiality they are legally obliged not to tell your parents what's going on, so there's no issue there.

    Yeah I think I'll do it some time.

    I think my hyper-anxiety this week was caused by trying to quit smoking. I was going fairly crazy. Back on them now and feeling somewhat more normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭dar926


    Does anybody else feel like they are just passing the days away, gone way passed the point of caring...watching the clock and the hours pass, relieved that another day is over and maybe, if your lucky...you might get an hours sleep before the whole thing starts over again :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Hersheys


    I just... I just can't. I am genuinely at a point where I just don't know who to trust or where to go... I know it's just a rough patch. I really do. But Christ it's difficult.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    Hersheys, I know that feeling, at times I feel that I have no one that actually underdtands what goes on in my head. Right now I am dealing with two sets of relations not speaking to me. One set have been hurt by me so I can at least understand where they are coming from. But the other set have totally behaved in the wrong against me. No connection between the two sets.
    I'm justs reeling from it all.

    Hershey you can trust this board at least.


  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭pinkstars


    Hersheys wrote: »
    Sixty pounds sterling. It's a bit steep but there's a 10 day free trial so you could see if you find it helpful. I just find his voice quite soothing, some of the voices on those tapes are horrific.

    They are horrific! I think there is a Headspace App I can get free - it is no where near that price!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Hersheys


    pinkstars wrote: »
    They are horrific! I think there is a Headspace App I can get free - it is no where near that price!

    Yeah the headspace free app gives 10 days of guided meditation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭pinkstars


    Oh great will try that.

    Will they automatically take my moola then after the ten days?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Hersheys


    No, not at all. You only need to give your email address. Well so far anyway, I'm on day 5. And the days are downloadable so you can listen to them a few times.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭pinkstars


    Cool thanks for that will try it out so!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Appointment at hospital, finally on list to meet with psychologist, seems they've forgotten to do that since there was NO psychologist in the hospital for over a year.. Galway regional with no psychologist - i can't begin to explain my rage at that.. Not even for me, but everyone else that has struggled or has been struggling, really pathetic imho..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    It is exactly 10 years to the day that I got that big panic attack that caused everything to spiral out of control. I don't know what to feel about that: joy I'm still here or sadness that I'm still here.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    It is exactly 10 years to the day that I got that big panic attack that caused everything to spiral out of control. I don't know what to feel about that: joy I'm still here or sadness that I'm still here.

    It's hard to know, suppose appreciate how strong your survival instinct is, it's how i usually look at it when i'm having a bad night. Can't remember exactly when my 'troubles' started so can't totally empathise, but keep posting here.. Someone's usually about. Oh sorry for taking so long to reply. :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    It's hard to know, suppose appreciate how strong your survival instinct is, it's how i usually look at it when i'm having a bad night. Can't remember exactly when my 'troubles' started so can't totally empathise, but keep posting here.. Someone's usually about. Oh sorry for taking so long to reply. :o

    It's like a landmark in a way. I dunno, probably best try not to focus on it and keep on moving.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    So down today due to so many family issues at the moment. On the plus side at least there is a reason for it but on the downside I feel broken


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    noah45 wrote: »
    So down today due to so many family issues at the moment. On the plus side at least there is a reason for it but on the downside I feel broken

    I seem to let everything around me get on top of me so that i get. My faultm always my fault. But when you get logical after the dark night it will settle somewhat.. If not, PM me, we'll talk more.. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    How I Cured My Anxiety

    First off, this isn't some spam bull**** where you go buy a book at the end. I've been on boards for over a decade and, having been in a place where I thought the curse would never leave, I wanted to pop back to this thread and offer some advice and, hopefully, some hope for fellow anxiety sufferers.

    I won’t go into the details of the awfulness of anxiety - chances are that, if you’re posting here at 4am, you know well what it’s like. But I’ll give a quick history of my battle with it for context.

    18 months ago: first panic attack. Thought I was dying, A&E, etc. Then another one two weeks later. And that’s how the spiral began.

    Truthfully, having anxiety was one of the best things that ever happened to me. I’d always had it. I’ve known since I was 12 that something ‘wasn’t quite right’ and I’d probably have a mental health issue some day. The slight derealisation a few times a day for as long as I can remember, the tension, the agoraphobia, thinking I was going crazy - having these attacks forced me to come to terms with it all.

    There is Hope. You Will Get Better.
    Life was a bucket of sh*t for the next 6 months, when I finally sought help after presenting myself to a Garda station at 4am asking them to put me in a cell. A year on, I am 99% free of anxiety. Here’s how:

    1) Drugs!
    I got Lustral, an SSRI as you likely know. First month: suicidal. Awful. Never again. Tip for anxiety sufferers: don’t read the warnings. Really, bad idea.

    Medication is not the solution. Medication is the cast on the leg that protects the leg so it can heal. Medication will only work in combination with other things.

    2) Meditation.
    Not even joking. I was the absolute last person to ever consider such nonsense. But I downloaded (on the advice of the only good doctor I ever met) ‘’Full Catastrophe Living’’ by Jon-Kabat Zinn.

    I felt 10 times better within a week. It's a great, great book, and it actually f*cking works.

    3) Exercise
    Specifically, running.

    Same doctor told me to get runners, and go run as f*cking hard and as fast for as long as I could and not to stop until I couldn’t breathe. I smoke 20 a day and haven’t exercised since Junior Cert PE, and I ran 3km. When I got home, I genuinely burst into tears because I felt normal for the first time in 6 months. I never believed I would feel normal again.

    Run.

    4) Smoking
    Not gonna tell you to give up smoking, because it’s not gonna happen.
    What are f*cking great are the electronic cigarettes. Just nicotine, nothing else to get the nervous system excited. Within two or three days you will feel a serious drop in your anxiety levels. Hand on heart, I cannot stress electronic smokes enough. Don’t the the disposable ones from Spar; go to a stall in a shopping centre and get the real ones. I’ve had great success with the VIP brand.

    5) Finally, this article from Cracked.com

    http://www.cracked.com/funny-7783-anxiety/

    Seriously. F*ck every other blog or help site on the internet, they’re only trying to sell you weeds or a bad book. Follow this article’s instructions religiously.


    So that’s it. I had it as bad as anyone - probably worst than most, truth be told, won’t go into it here - but it gets better. I would have killed for someone to have told me that at any time. I haven’t posted in this thread in ages, but I came back on the off chance that it might give another person with the same problem some hope. I thought I'd never be able to leave my house, and now I'm making more money than I ever thought I'd make and having an absolute blast. You are going to be ok.

    Anxiety is not permanent. Anxiety is bullsh*t, and it can go away.

    You will get better, and any anxious thought that makes you believe otherwise is a goddamned liar.

    Rob


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    I seem to let everything around me get on top of me so that i get. My faultm always my fault. But when you get logical after the dark night it will settle somewhat.. If not, PM me, we'll talk more..

    Thank you I might pm you later, just even your offer makes such a difference to me, it brings tears to my eyes. Thank you.
    Today I don't even want to get up but I have to, kids to drop etc.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Last dayshift yesterday, hopefully the stability of nights only will help with mood swings.. They've been getting scary and splitting between days and nights cannot be helping.

    Hope you are all ok..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Found out a lot of stuff about my family this weekend. Horrible stuff. I feel like I've been torn apart.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Lightbulb Sun


    Great post banquo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭noah45


    Found out a lot of stuff about my family this weekend. Horrible stuff. I feel like I've been torn apart.


    I can relate to that!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭shy_boy


    Can anyone recommend a good councellor in the south east of the country for me.. I dont want to go public.. Or is there a website with a list? Thanks.
    Shyboy
    (need to get this sorted once and for all)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    The team at St. Patrick's Hospital in Dublin will be able to recommend someone that's actually worth your time and money! Give them a ring. Don't go with a randomer, or you'll end up with someone like mine:

    Week 1: Made me make a list of all the things I was afraid of. Left a wreck.
    Week 2: "Fright therapy"
    Week 3: She produces crayons.

    "Um, we both knew this relationship wasn't going to be forever..."

    /leaves


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭shy_boy


    banquo wrote: »
    The team at St. Patrick's Hospital in Dublin will be able to recommend someone that's actually worth your time and money! Give them a ring. Don't go with a randomer, or you'll end up with someone like mine:

    Week 1: Made me make a list of all the things I was afraid of. Left a wreck.
    Week 2: "Fright therapy"
    Week 3: She produces crayons.

    "Um, we both knew this relationship wasn't going to be forever..."

    /leaves
    Would you have a number i could ring please and thanks
    shyboy


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pro crastinator


    Hi everyone. Been lurking here for a bit and finally decided to register and talk to real people instead of myself!

    Been anxious all my life but it became a problem in school/college 10 years ago. The long story short for me is poor self esteem and self doubt -> anxiety -> avoidance/procrastination -> failure -> depression -> rinse, repeat

    I've been bullied and had an abusive relationship, so my self esteem is as low as it can go. I have generalised anxiety and pretty bad social anxiety, don't socialise much except online. Can't deal with big groups of people and have declined to attend a number of weddings this year. I'm also doing college part time (working full time as need the money) and have awful anxiety about assessments and exams. This makes me procrastinate very badly and set myself up for even more failure. Right now I should be sleeping/doing an assessment but I'm posting this so there ya go.

    Have had a few depressive episodes in the past 10 years. Last time effexor worked great, but not working so well now. Was referred to public psych who added mirtazapine which knocked me out and made me put on 2 stone so I've come off that. I need to go back to the psych to talk other medication options, but I'm pretty limited in choice as I have awful side effects from SSRI, SNRI, mirtaz. I have drug induced IBS from the effexor and get awful pain and constipation. Woe is me etc.

    I was referred for public CBT, but the waiting list goes back to 2011. Would love to go private for CBT but money is an issue.

    So... yeah. I'm pretty feckin stuck. I hope posting here will help me be accountable and work towards recovery. Any suggestions for self help books, courses etc would be really welcome.

    Currently wondering whether or not to ring in sick to work tomorrow to recover from today's bad anxiety. Then the negative voices in my head tell me there's nothing wrong with me coz I don't have a physical illness so I'd be a total waster if I didn't go in. Ah the joys.

    Sorry for the essay just a lot going on in the head right now! Hope to talk to ye soon


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Hi Pro crastinator, welcome to the thread, have to say the public route is slow, but stay with it.. Depending on where you are based you may be able to find a 'sliding rate' counselling service - that's the route i'm going while i await psychologist, unfortunately mental health issues are not like broken bones where you have a timeline and can see that, yup, six weeks and i'm sorted.. However there's plenty of us in the same boat, hopefully this thread will help you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pro crastinator


    Hi Pro crastinator, welcome to the thread, have to say the public route is slow, but stay with it.. Depending on where you are based you may be able to find a 'sliding rate' counselling service - that's the route i'm going while i await psychologist, unfortunately mental health issues are not like broken bones where you have a timeline and can see that, yup, six weeks and i'm sorted.. However there's plenty of us in the same boat, hopefully this thread will help you.

    Thanks so much Gremlinertia. I did "talk therapy" style counselling in the past and I would be able to find another affordable similar service near me. But I just didn't find it helped. I have a lot of negative self perceptions that I need help challenging, and talk therapy just doesn't do it for me. Will have to talk to my partner about finding the money for private CBT I think. Sure what's the point in having money and no quality of life eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Welcome aboard Pre crastinator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Lightbulb Sun


    Had an argument with my parents about my hesitancy to start meds again. I'm tooing and froing on this everyday. I just resent the side effects this type of tablets bring and being in the position to take them. I fear their interference on energy levels and the like. It's an argument I really didn't want as we were getting along nicely recently. I'm not fond of myself for being such a prickly twat either. I just don't feel like I'll ever be a useful person.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pro crastinator


    Had an argument with my parents about my hesitancy to start meds again. I'm tooing and froing on this everyday. I just resent the side effects this type of tablets bring and being in the position to take them. I fear their interference on energy levels and the like. It's an argument I really didn't want as we were getting along nicely recently. I'm not fond of myself for being such a prickly twat either. I just don't feel like I'll ever be a useful person.

    It's a tough situation to be in, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm in much the same position myself. What's the lesser of two evils for you at the moment?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Lightbulb Sun


    It's a tough situation to be in, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't. I'm in much the same position myself. What's the lesser of two evils for you at the moment?

    Taking them is probably the lesser evil now if only cos it might cause my parents less frustration. I have things on in the next few days which I see as very important to me. It's just bad timing really. Adjusting to the intake of them. From what I can remember, they activate me in a motivated way, but they kind of tire you deceptively soon after.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Taking them is probably the lesser evil now if only cos it might cause my parents less frustration. I have things on in the next few days which I see as very important to me. It's just bad timing really. Adjusting to the intake of them. From what I can remember, they activate me in a motivated way, but they kind of tire you deceptively soon after.

    If it helps, it took nearly a year for me to find the right combination and level of drugs. Constant monitoring with either monthly visits to psych day hospital (that was my route, with casualty for emergencies) or regular doctor..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    The agoraphobia that has accompanied my anxiety and depression since around age 12 has worsened so much this week. I can't even o to the shop. Haven't left the house in a week and 2 days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭Marzipan85


    I have a possibly pretentious statement to make: having depression is like living in 2D. Being happy is like living in 3D. Living in 2D, everything is flat, you have no depth perception.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Have my 3 monthly checkin with my psychiatrist next Tuesday. I haven't been too bad lately: the anxiety has faded a bit (it still flares up at times)and my bouts of low mood/ being despondent isn't too bad either atm. Two things are concerning me though: I have constant suicide ideation and continuing paranoia.

    The suicide ideation has come up before - they actually asked me had I those kinda thoughts and even though I said I had them, they didn't seem too concerned. I don't know if I'm just morbid or if it's something to try and tackle.

    I haven't said the paranoia to them yet as I'm afraid they'll change my meds. Last time I was talking to them they increased my meds so I fear the next step would be to change them partially or even fully. I'm at a crucial enough stage of my college course at the moment and am afraid a change of meds could potentially **** my head up worse than it already is (which has happened before - I won't name the drug obviously). This paranoia has caused me to sabotage a lot in my meager social life already so I do think I need to tackle it somehow.

    What's the consensus here do ye think: should I bring them up on Tuesday or just see how I get on until the next visit?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Have my 3 monthly checkin with my psychiatrist next Tuesday. I haven't been too bad lately: the anxiety has faded a bit (it still flares up at times)and my bouts of low mood/ being despondent isn't too bad either atm. Two things are concerning me though: I have constant suicide ideation and continuing paranoia.

    The suicide ideation has come up before - they actually asked me had I those kinda thoughts and even though I said I had them, they didn't seem too concerned. I don't know if I'm just morbid or if it's something to try and tackle.

    I haven't said the paranoia to them yet as I'm afraid they'll change my meds. Last time I was talking to them they increased my meds so I fear the next step would be to change them partially or even fully. I'm at a crucial enough stage of my college course at the moment and am afraid a change of meds could potentially **** my head up worse than it already is (which has happened before - I won't name the drug obviously). This paranoia has caused me to sabotage a lot in my meager social life already so I do think I need to tackle it somehow.

    What's the consensus here do ye think: should I bring them up on Tuesday or just see how I get on until the next visit?

    Write down exactly that second last paragraph and bring it to them.. I reckon that they'll keep you stable until you're over the course..

    My two cents :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    Write down exactly that second last paragraph and bring it to them.. I reckon that they'll keep you stable until you're over the course..

    My two cents :o

    Thanks for the reply.

    I'll have a good think and plan before then. I'll try bring it up gently with them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 Pro crastinator


    Marzipan85 wrote: »
    I have a possibly pretentious statement to make: having depression is like living in 2D. Being happy is like living in 3D. Living in 2D, everything is flat, you have no depth perception.

    I can relate to that. I experience derealization a lot. The way I described it to a GP once was "it's like there's a veil between me and the rest of the world". She suggested I get an eye test :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    "it's like there's a veil between me and the rest of the world".

    This is the case for me at the moment. Worringly so. I believe my mental health will seriously deteriorate to a point where it may be unrecoverable within this year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    This is the case for me at the moment. Worringly so. I believe my mental health will seriously deteriorate to a point where it may be unrecoverable within this year.

    I hope not. Whatever you do don't try to isolate yourself from others. I did that many times and it just made things so much worse in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    I hope not. Whatever you do don't try to isolate yourself from others. I did that many times and it just made things so much worse in the long run.

    Oh no it's already been like that a while. Don't want to see people because of circumstances. I could easily have reintegrated but now things are just very dire inside my mind. Well I should say around my fringe. Sometimes I think **** this whole dog and pony show


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Oh no it's already been like that a while. Don't want to see people because of circumstances. I could easily have reintegrated but now things are just very dire inside my mind. Well I should say around my fringe. Sometimes I think **** this whole dog and pony show

    Couldn't relate more to your last two posts.

    Sometimes I think talking about this stuff actually makes me feel 10 times worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    Since I sent the letter to my doctor a few weeks ago, I haven't got a reply. So bit freaked about that. Not sure what it means. Now I want to go about a different issue and I'm scared to go in case she recognises me from my letter. ( I only gave my surname) I suppose it could take time to answer, or maybe she doesn't do letters. I don't know..:o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 60,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    phi3 wrote: »
    Since I sent the letter to my doctor a few weeks ago, I haven't got a reply. So bit freaked about that. Not sure what it means. Now I want to go about a different issue and I'm scared to go in case she recognises me from my letter. ( I only gave my surname) I suppose it could take time to answer, or maybe she doesn't do letters. I don't know..:o

    I'll hazard a guess and say the doc probably expected you to follow up with an appointment with them.. Not sure all surgeries can enter into phone/letter correspondence..

    You've made a step though, don't be scared to go in.. Nothing ventured an all that.. :o


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭RubyXI


    I'll hazard a guess and say the doc probably expected you to follow up with an appointment with them.. Not sure all surgeries can enter into phone/letter correspondence..

    You've made a step though, don't be scared to go in.. Nothing ventured an all that.. :o

    Well in the letter I wanted to know if it's something they deal with before I make an appointment so I think it was clear I wanted an answer first.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭Lightbulb Sun


    phi3 wrote: »
    Well in the letter I wanted to know if it's something they deal with before I make an appointment so I think it was clear I wanted an answer first.

    They'll have seen everything before. Don't worry about that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,835 ✭✭✭✭cloud493


    Not been doing so great. Hard to put the brave face all the time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,308 ✭✭✭Hersheys


    Why do therapy sessions fly by & time between them drag?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭dar926


    Been in therapy since I got out of hospital in March..But I just aint right... I have the skills but something just doesn't fit...Maybe the hole I am in is just to deep to get out... I don't think i will ever be right


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