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Irish Navy ... any info

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Nikkiwillis93


    I think its an enlisted recruit .. If i lived close by the base would i get to see him more often?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,798 ✭✭✭Local-womanizer


    I think its an enlisted recruit .. If i lived close by the base would i get to see him more often?

    If you lived close by you would still just see him when he gets local leave at weekends, that's if it is granted. It could be 3-6 weeks at a time you get granted a leave pass to travel home during training. Local leave means you are restricted to the nearest town of locality.

    It's a hard couple of months for a couple but best to stick it out, keep busy and look back on it and realise it wasn't a huge deal being apart, it's for a good job at the end of the day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 124 ✭✭vwhead


    thats an absoblute amasing thread i was with some of ye back in 2012 i got to the interview but unfortunatly no further. i was 17 and just about to go into LC im gutted readin that thread that i didnt get further but delighted for the lads that did. i wonder if any of you still take a look at this if so feel free to pm me as id love to have a chat with ye about it as im planning on going again next month when it opens up


  • Registered Users Posts: 100 ✭✭Marshall987


    hey
    looking for some more info from people serving in the navy?

    I was waiting for the gardai campaign for years and really should have applied for the army I'm 25 in two weeks so I take it infantry is out?

    what should I expect from a career in the Navy, what would I do be doing the majority of the time, how many days a year would I be at sea. I only talked to one person who is in the reserves, and he said all they do in the navy is clean?

    also if I did get in, could I apply for the ARW after a certain amount of time?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    hey
    looking for some more info from people serving in the navy?

    I was waiting for the gardai campaign for years and really should have applied for the army I'm 25 in two weeks so I take it infantry is out?

    what should I expect from a career in the Navy, what would I do be doing the majority of the time, how many days a year would I be at sea. I only talked to one person who is in the reserves, and he said all they do in the navy is clean?

    also if I did get in, could I apply for the ARW after a certain amount of time?

    Thanks


    My advice is dont take advice on the Navy from a reservist who only does a few weeks a years. Ask a full time member for a full picture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    I'm confused.

    You want to join the naval service, but a few years down the line, you want to become a member of the ARW.

    On what premise do you base your possible suitabilty for the ARW, bearing in mind that you will have only done the basic three-arm of service recruit and soldier training?

    Is such a career even possible?

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm confused.

    You want to join the naval service, but a few years down the line, you want to become a member of the ARW.

    On what premise do you base your possible suitabilty for the ARW, bearing in mind that you will have only done the basic three-arm of service recruit and soldier training?

    Is such a career even possible?

    tac

    Yes its possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    mikeym - would you please elaborate on your statement?

    Thanks.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭AllthingsCP


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm confused.

    You want to join the naval service, but a few years down the line, you want to become a member of the ARW.

    On what premise do you base your possible suitabilty for the ARW, bearing in mind that you will have only done the basic three-arm of service recruit and soldier training?

    Is such a career even possible?

    tac

    very much so. If he dose all the tests and pass them all. No easy feat.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    also if I did get in, could I apply for the ARW after a certain amount of time?

    Thanks

    Yes, once you pass out as a 3 star Private or equivalent you can apply for the next ARW Selection course.

    However, you would want to be very aware of Infantry tactics and very proficient in using them. If you actually get in and pass out, I would suggest you try to transfer into the Army and do a stint in an operational Infantry Unit first.

    Good luck.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    I'm still not convinced that a sailor with no experience of soldiering, since he is already too old to join the infantry, can nevertheless be fit enough or skilled enough in soldier-like activities/military skills of the kind required for selection for the Irish Army's version of Special Forces.

    How would he ever get fit enough, for a start? He would either be at sea, with no spare time to do the necessary 'route-march with load' training, or ashore, getting ready to go to sea.

    How would his naval superiors view his application for the ARW?

    More to the point, how might the ARW view his application?

    Not trying to pick a fight with anybody, just noting that such a career is beyond my comprehension in the British Army, for instance, where the vast majority of SF personnel come from the infantry and Parachute Regiment. The Royal Marines already HAVE their SF in the form of the SBS.

    I've never heard of a sailor getting selected for SF duties, so perhaps you can tell me if anybody has ever been known to have done this before?

    tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Yes, once you pass out as a 3 star Private or equivalent you can apply for the next ARW Selection course.

    However, you would want to be very aware of Infantry tactics and very proficient in using them. If you actually get in and pass out, I would suggest you try to transfer into the Army and do a stint in an operational Infantry Unit first.

    Good luck.

    How would he pass out as a three-star private if he is in the Naval Service?

    Given the naval service equivalent, how is he going to be 'very aware of infantry tactics and proficient in using them'?

    With whom will he have operated as part of an combat team?

    tac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm still not convinced that a sailor with no experience of soldiering, since he is already too old to join the infantry, can nevertheless be fit enough or skilled enough in soldier-like activities/military skills of the kind required for selection

    He wouldn't. He would need to transfer to an Army unit first. As a sailor, he would be out of his depth....no pun intended.
    tac foley wrote: »
    for the Irish Army's version of Special Forces.

    You could have just said "special forces", the "Irish Army's version" part looks like yet another subtle, cleverly disguised put down.
    tac foley wrote: »
    How would he ever get fit enough, for a start?
    That's debateable.
    tac foley wrote: »
    He would either be at sea, with no spare time to do the necessary 'route-march with load' training, or ashore, getting ready to go to sea.
    Agreed
    tac foley wrote: »
    How would his naval superiors view his application for the ARW?
    Depends in the CO, the NS and ARW do work closely at times, some may be for it...some not so much.
    tac foley wrote: »
    More to the point, how might the ARW view his application?

    An applicant is an applicant....


    Not trying to pick a fight with anybody, just noting that such a career is beyond my comprehension in the British Army, for instance, where the vast majority of SF personnel come from the infantry and Parachute Regiment. The Royal Marines already HAVE their SF in the form of the SBS.
    tac foley wrote: »
    I've never heard of a sailor getting selected for SF duties, so perhaps you can tell me if anybody has ever been known to have done this before?
    tac

    I'm sure ex AC/NS pers who have Infantry experience have attempted and possibly passed. Can't say for sure but wouldn't rule it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,396 ✭✭✭Frosty McSnowballs


    tac foley wrote: »
    How would he pass out as a three-star private if he is in the Naval Service?

    Given the naval service equivalent, how is he going to be 'very aware of infantry tactics and proficient in using them'?

    With whom will he have operated as part of an combat team?

    tac

    Did you even read what you quoted? The answers are all there.

    Jesus Tac


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    No put-down intended or meant - I'm not looking for a fight, but you seem to be putting me in the ring for one. All military forces worth their salt have their own versions of Special Forces, and the Irish model is just one of them AFAIAC. Just as the British SF have principal areas of expertise based on the UK's military requirements and task response, I assume that the Irish Army's RW has similar but different operational tasking based on your areas of interest. For example the government of Ireland does not have, as far as I know, much time, energy and military training invested in the Arctic, as the British Armed Forces, both regular forces and SF, do.

    In any event, good luck to him, whoever he might be.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm still not convinced that a sailor with no experience of soldiering, since he is already too old to join the infantry, can nevertheless be fit enough or skilled enough in soldier-like activities/military skills of the kind required for selection for the Irish Army's version of Special Forces.

    How would he ever get fit enough, for a start? He would either be at sea, with no spare time to do the necessary 'route-march with load' training, or ashore, getting ready to go to sea.

    How would his naval superiors view his application for the ARW?

    More to the point, how might the ARW view his application?

    Not trying to pick a fight with anybody, just noting that such a career is beyond my comprehension in the British Army, for instance, where the vast majority of SF personnel come from the infantry and Parachute Regiment. The Royal Marines already HAVE their SF in the form of the SBS.

    I've never heard of a sailor getting selected for SF duties, so perhaps you can tell me if anybody has ever been known to have done this before?

    tac


    There are several ex-NS members serving presently in the ARW.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Thank, that's all I really wanted to know, that there was a precedent.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭AllthingsCP


    Hey, iv recently done my fitness and have my medical next week. My hearing fitness blood pressure bloods and urine will be all good. But I'm a bit worried about my eye sight. I wear glasses when I'm reading and writing but don't need them for anything else. I recently done an eye test and was informed I don't need my glasses for driving either. Can anyone give me an idea on how strict they are in regard to eye sight? Would appreciate a reply, cheers.

    You will be fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    Dr.Sanchez wrote: »
    Yeah thats pretty much how it went. It's a piece of piss, I made it harder for myself my doing 30km runs to Crosshaven and back on the weekends we were kept in, and running a marathon a few days after we passed out.

    Was a bit unorganised for us as we were the first class trained in years.



    You were AWOL so if you left the Naval Base..... :rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2 sailor.ian


    really good question.
    i have another similar to this.
    i am making my application now for the next round of recruits. i am a married man with an almost three year old and my wife is with child at the moment (due in September). a distant cousin of my mum's is in the navy for many years and i know he did live on base or at least in navy owned accommodation at some point. so here is my question: does this accommodation still exist and if so at what point can my family join me?
    also when does the first 19 weeks training begin? if it anything around mi September it would really suck.

    P.S. i have done a lot of reading of the navy's literature but nothing even comes close to answering this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    sailor.ian wrote: »
    really good question.
    i have another similar to this.
    i am making my application now for the next round of recruits. i am a married man with an almost three year old and my wife is with child at the moment (due in September). a distant cousin of my mum's is in the navy for many years and i know he did live on base or at least in navy owned accommodation at some point. so here is my question: does this accommodation still exist and if so at what point can my family join me?
    also when does the first 19 weeks training begin? if it anything around mi September it would really suck.

    P.S. i have done a lot of reading of the navy's literature but nothing even comes close to answering this.


    No family accomodation exists in the NS


    Contact the recruiting office @021-4864700 for any other queries.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 sailor.ian


    cheers a/tel.
    I must have called 50 times today to try and get through to the recruitment's office but finally got an answer after lunch. family accommodation did once exist but was got rid of some years ago. here's what i found out:
    A recruit leaves base to find his own accommodation after the first 4 months. the guy also told me that i would be given time and space if my wife goes in to labor while i'm on duty. they also specified that a start date for the recruit training has not been set and wont be for ages. it could be any time from July till Jan.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    a/tel wrote: »
    You were AWOL so if you left the Naval Base..... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I was allowed funnily enough! :) That was in 2011, I've left since. Moved on to better things, emigrated.


  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭damienf1


    Hi, going to apply for the Navy i did a bit of travelling a few years back should i put i put down one of the jobs i had while traveling or just the two jobs that i had in Ireland???


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭AllthingsCP


    damienf1 wrote: »
    Hi, going to apply for the Navy i did a bit of travelling a few years back should i put i put down one of the jobs i had while traveling or just the two jobs that i had in Ireland???

    Anyone applying to both Army and Navy will attend one fittness failing this will result in failing both Army and Navy. Then online test next month and retest one month later in testing centre


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  • Registered Users Posts: 133 ✭✭damienf1


    Anyone applying to both Army and Navy will attend one fittness failing this will result in failing both Army and Navy. Then online test next month and retest one month later in testing centre

    Im just applying for the Navy so i should be ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭AllthingsCP


    damienf1 wrote: »
    Im just applying for the Navy so i should be ok.

    best of luck. You recive.your fittness date yet


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Paul mac


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm still not convinced that a sailor with no experience of soldiering, since he is already too old to join the infantry, can nevertheless be fit enough or skilled enough in soldier-like activities/military skills of the kind required for selection for the Irish Army's version of Special Forces.

    How would he ever get fit enough, for a start? He would either be at sea, with no spare time to do the necessary 'route-march with load' training, or ashore, getting ready to go to sea.

    How would his naval superiors view his application for the ARW?

    More to the point, how might the ARW view his application?

    Not trying to pick a fight with anybody, just noting that such a career is beyond my comprehension in the British Army, for instance, where the vast majority of SF personnel come from the infantry and Parachute Regiment. The Royal Marines already HAVE their SF in the form of the SBS.

    I've never heard of a sailor getting selected for SF duties, so perhaps you can tell me if anybody has ever been known to have done this before?

    tac

    You do know that the ARW has a maratine section with a lot of there divers coming from the NS


  • Registered Users Posts: 45 spark23


    Several members of the naval service have passed selection and served in the ARW mainly naval service divers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Dr.Sanchez


    Paul mac wrote: »
    You do know that the ARW has a maratine section with a lot of there divers coming from the NS

    Didn't know that at all, must be a new thing... :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1 blondeybarry


    Hi I know this is an old post but I said I'd post anyway!

    My boyfriend is recently after applying for the Irish Navy. He has applied for the army before and got to the interview stage but couldn't make it. He really wants a military career and I was just wondering if anyone could tell me about the interview/fitness test, the general application process?

    Could anyone also give me information on navy life in general? I live in cork City so was just wondering would I see him much if he got in?

    Thanks! 😊


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Paul mac wrote: »
    You do know that the ARW has a maratine section with a lot of there divers coming from the NS

    Just to point out that ANY diver is going to be a great deal fitter than your average deckie, and although YOU might describe a diver/clearance diver spec as a sailor, I certainly would not. He is a very specialised person with a very highly-developed skillset.

    If he is also fit enough to be selected for ARW, then he is a VERY special person indeed.

    tac


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    Hi I know this is an old post but I said I'd post anyway!

    My boyfriend is recently after applying for the Irish Navy. He has applied for the army before and got to the interview stage but couldn't make it. He really wants a military career and I was just wondering if anyone could tell me about the interview/fitness test, the general application process?

    Could anyone also give me information on navy life in general? I live in cork City so was just wondering would I see him much if he got in?

    Thanks! 😊




    Expect not to see him much during the 16 weeks recruit training. Maybe one or 2 weekends off.

    After that his specific branch training will be from 6 - 16 weeks depending on what branch he goes into.

    Upon completion of branch training he will be posted to a ship for 2 years.

    4 weeks out 2 weeks in (but not off) for 2 years


    Hope this answers some questions


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    You've heard the expression going medieval on your ass then the Irish Navy is going Victorian on your ass with its massive Navy. The biggest Navy enterprise since the Vikings arrived.



    Is this ment to be funny?????


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,456 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    [Mod]KingBrian, this isn't After Hours. Try to post something constructive next time. Yellow card.[/Mod]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 imperator567


    tac foley wrote: »
    I'm confused.

    You want to join the naval service, but a few years down the line, you want to become a member of the ARW.

    On what premise do you base your possible suitabilty for the ARW, bearing in mind that you will have only done the basic three-arm of service recruit and soldier training?

    Is such a career even possible?

    tac



    US Navy Seals recruit from the Navy and civilians. Its mainly Navy divers who go on to serve in the Wings diving section. They get time off to practice tabs, fitness etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭agent graves


    a/tel wrote:
    Expect not to see him much during the 16 weeks recruit training. Maybe one or 2 weekends off.


    You haven't a clue about the time off obviously.. after the first 3-4 weeks your out nearly every weekend. And you can request an over night pass aswell (not guaranteed to be given tho)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    US Navy Seals recruit from the Navy and civilians. Its mainly Navy divers who go on to serve in the Wings diving section. They get time off to practice tabs, fitness etc.

    The OP has made no mention of becoming a diver.

    I think you'll also find that there is no direct recruitment from civilian life directly into BUDS.

    tac


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 imperator567


    tac foley wrote: »
    The OP has made no mention of becoming a diver.

    I think you'll also find that there is no direct recruitment from civilian life directly into BUDS.

    tac



    Civilians can directly become SEALs as Chris Kyle did.

    Can post link direct(new poster), but you can Google it.

    As a civilian you can request to join the SEALs prior to enlisting through the SEAL Challenge Contract (Seaman to SEAL program). The SEAL Challenge Contract guarantees you the opportunity to become a SEAL candidate and entitles you to certain bonuses and benefits when you enlist.
    If you don't get a SEAL Challenge Contract prior to enlisting, you can still volunteer to take the Physical Screening Test (PST) during the first week boot camp. If you successfully pass the PST a Naval Special Operation Motivator will interview you. The motivator will then submit a request for you to enter the Naval Special Warfare (BUD/S) training pipeline.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,500 ✭✭✭tac foley


    Wow, that's just amazing!

    tac


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    [mod]stick to the original subject please, Irish Navy info. [/mod]


  • Registered Users Posts: 112 ✭✭a/tel


    You haven't a clue about the time off obviously.. after the first 3-4 weeks your out nearly every weekend. And you can request an over night pass aswell (not guaranteed to be given tho)

    Well seeing as i trained a Naval recruit class in the last few years, i DO have a clue. Dont presume young man......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭agent graves


    a/tel wrote: »
    Well seeing as i trained a Naval recruit class in the last few years, i DO have a clue. Dont presume young man......

    well presuming i joined in 08 i also have a clue. dont you presume old man


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 2,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Morpheus


    Keep it civil please gentlemen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭Rhys Essien




  • Registered Users Posts: 2 mobolobobo


    Hi all
    Just want to ask does anyone have any insight to when they will be recruiting next.im pretty fit and would have no problem with writen tests etc.a little info would be great.
    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭AllthingsCP


    mobolobobo wrote: »
    Hi all
    Just want to ask does anyone have any insight to when they will be recruiting next.im pretty fit and would have no problem with writen tests etc.a little info would be great.
    Cheers

    You just missed this years Naval recruitment, Highly unlikely their will include a navel competition in this years general recruitment in the coming weeks so i would say maybe next year around the 2nd 3rd Month.

    But i could be wrong and a small number mite be taken in the next general recruitment but personal i cant see that happening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 mobolobobo


    Thanks hopefully they are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 RandyWatson


    So I have my medical in july for the navy after getting through the interview in the last round, im just wondering does anybody know what the pay is exactly for being away for the 4 weeks?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭mikeym


    So I have my medical in july for the navy after getting through the interview in the last round, im just wondering does anybody know what the pay is exactly for being away for the 4 weeks?

    You get sea going money which is subject to Prsi, Pension Levy and USC.


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