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Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

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  • #302
    yimrsg
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    Desperation is the mother of all self-deception...

    I'm glad that the bulls didn't win, steyne and hougaard just kick the ball and the back 3 are just kick chasers, insipid stuff to watch. The only bulls that should be in the boks are the Potgieters and even then I wouldn't start them.


  • #303
    .ak
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    This match is looking better already. Michalak looks to have added a lot of weight/muscle on this season.


  • #304
    .ak
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    Super try, sharks did extremely well to keep that in play, regardless of luck.


  • #305
    Swiwi
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    .ak wrote: »
    Super try, sharks did extremely well to keep that in play, regardless of luck.

    If only the Bulls had try to play like this...

    Just think, next week we get to see the dynamic, try-scoring Stormers in action!!! Oh wait....


  • #306
    .ak
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    Stormers will still put up a decent match, their physicality and accuracy is generally great to watch for the neutral. Say what you will about SA rugby, Stormers are deserving of their place in the standings table.

    Having said that, I still want to see Crusaders or Chiefs win it.


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  • #307
    Swiwi
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    .ak wrote: »
    Stormers will still put up a decent match, their physicality and accuracy is generally great to watch for the neutral. Say what you will about SA rugby, Stormers are deserving of their place in the standings table.

    Having said that, I still want to see Crusaders or Chiefs win it.

    Yeah, I am only taking the mickey. At the end of the day, defence is just as important as attack, and the Stormers defend very well.


  • #308
    thomond2006
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    The pace of the Beast! Crazy...


  • #309
    thomond2006
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    Ben Lucas, the replacement for Cooper, now gone off injured.

    Looks like they've moved Genia to 10, has he played there before?


  • #310
    .ak
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    As much as I despise Cooper I still don't see why he's not playing this game. The high tackle was barely a yellow, and he's done worse and gone unpunished. Now the reds are down another 10.... It's a position they can't really gamble with, I can see the Sharks preying on that now.


  • #311
    Swiwi
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    The pace of the Beast! Crazy...

    Him v Taumololo (Chiefs) in a straight sprint would be worth the price of entry alone...


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  • #312
    .ak
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    Lovely stuff again from the Sharks. J.P is a beast of a winger.


  • #313
    Swiwi
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    For the Blues supporters out there...John Plumtree (Sharks coach) was apparently in the mix...


  • #314
    thomond2006
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    Fantastic try.


  • #315
    .ak
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    Wow, Reds have completely lost their shape.


  • #316
    thomond2006
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    .ak wrote: »
    Wow, Reds have completely lost their shape.

    I think it's insane to move the best 9 in the world to 10.

    Reds get a penalty goal through Mike Harris.


  • #317
    Swiwi
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    .ak wrote: »
    Wow, Reds have completely lost their shape.

    Sharks are playing VERY well so far. Reds have done well just to make the knock-out stages, after losing Horwill, who is a very decent lock, and not having Cooper, who although not test-match quality IMHO, is perfectly suited to S15 rugby on a dry track at Suncorp.


  • #318
    thomond2006
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    I thought the Sharks would have gotten a try had they kept going, they are dominating up front. Then again, a guaranteed 3 points is hard to turn down in a knockout game.


  • #319
    Swiwi
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    Might be a painful topic to raise on this forum...but change the jerseys to Green & Black and we seem to have a replay of the 3rd test match...although I guess the Reds have scored some points :) (couldn't help myself, sorry). Let's see what the Reds can do. And ludicrous to move Genia from 9.


  • #320
    thomond2006
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    Massive turnover for the Sharks.


  • #321
    .ak
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    The only really two decent reds players today linking up very well there.


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  • #322
    thomond2006
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    try Genia, huge score


  • #323
    Swiwi
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    Fantastic half-back...remains an absolute joy to watch...best ever in my opinion (since I started watching rugby in 1987), although Joost was also exceptional.


  • #324
    thomond2006
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    I think it's insane to move the best 9 in the world to 10.


    facepalm.jpg


  • #325
    .ak
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    Might be a painful topic to raise on this forum...but change the jerseys to Green & Black and we seem to have a replay of the 3rd test match...although I guess the Reds have scored some points :) (couldn't help myself, sorry). Let's see what the Reds can do. And ludicrous to move Genia from 9.

    Don't think it's comparable to that massacre. Atleast the Reds look dangerous from time to time.


  • #326
    Swiwi
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    I'm from Crusaders country...but this game is already 100x more enjoyable to watch. Sharks, Cheetahs (pre Goosen injury) & Hurricanes have been the best to watch all year from an attacking point of view. I want the Sharks to win...but that means the Crusaders would have to play the Chiefs...on the other hand it still leaves a chance for the final in Chch...but after the pathetic crowd I am not sure Chch merits a final. Couldn't imagine Thomond, RDS or Aviva being empty for a HC knockout game...


  • #327
    Swiwi
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    The pass that ended a season...


  • #328
    GerM
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    "Intercept.....OOOOOOHHOOOHH YEAH!"

    I love Aussie commentators.


  • #329
    Swiwi
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    Match officials have been terrible in recent weeks...that was a try!


  • #330
    molloyjh
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    Match officials have been terrible in recent weeks...that was a try!

    Thought so too. Poor decision.


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  • #331
    Juwwi
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    This ref is joke.. why did'nt he ask the tmo try or no try.

    Far to lenient aswell.


  • #332
    thomond2006
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    Sharks phenomenal in defence.


  • #333
    Swiwi
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Thought so too. Poor decision.

    Why don't they just ask "have a look and make a decision", instead of these ambiguous questions.


  • #334
    molloyjh
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Sharks phenomenal in defence.

    Reds offence hasn't exactly been sensational. Some really poor kicking from Genia....just as I say it he shows another poor kick.


  • #335
    Juwwi
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    Sharks offside and ref does nothing.
    They may as well be playing with no ref.


  • #336
    matthew8
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    God the Sharks are awesome. Solidifying their status as my second SH team, which means a lot when supporting the Lions.


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  • #337
    Swiwi
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    What we call in NZ "a minties moment". Glory dive...but a metre too short!


  • #338
    molloyjh
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    Sharks going straight off their feet at every breakdown. Reds lucky there. Where was the knock-on?


  • #339
    thomond2006
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    WTF was that from Bosman? Tackled by an invisible player?!

    What a ball from Bismarck beforehand...


  • #340
    GerM
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    Going off your feet is clearly an optional call. I want the Sharks to win but clearly Kaplan does too. At least 3 players went straight to ground and sealed off on two occasions on that breakaway with no sanction.

    BdP's big one handed pass was great. Thought about a spin pass, realised he was a front rower and lobbed a big one hander!


  • #341
    Swiwi
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    I'd say Stormers and Chiefs will be a bit nervous about their semis...


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  • #342
    GerM
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    I'd say Stormers and Chiefs will be a bit nervous about their semis...

    Sharks and Crusaders will be relishing their semi finals. Neither tie holds any fear for the away side. Sharks will be delighted to get a game only a 2 hour flight from home. Would say Chiefs and Stormers won't be best pleased to see two domestic teams visiting their respective stadiums.


  • #343
    Swiwi
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    At the end of the day, Reds were ranked 6th in regular season, so a fair reflection


  • #344
    molloyjh
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    GerM wrote: »
    Going off your feet is clearly an optional call. I want the Sharks to win but clearly Kaplan does too. At least 3 players went straight to ground and sealed off on two occasions on that breakaway with no sanction.

    BdP's big one handed pass was great. Thought about a spin pass, realised he was a front rower and lobbed a big one hander!

    Great step and awareness too.


  • #345
    matthew8
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    What a superb tackle.


  • #346
    Swiwi
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    From a French point of view, surely Michalak is a better option than Trinh-Duc or Beauxis...


  • #347
    thomond2006
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    Unbelievable that Sharks weren't carded, that's 3/4 penalties conceded on their line in the last 20 minutes.


  • #348
    thomond2006
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    From a French point of view, surely Michalak is a better option than Trinh-Duc or Beauxis...

    As a Toulon fan, I can't wait until he is sur la Rade. :D

    However he'll find it difficult to get into the team, he won't start at 10 because Wilkinson is there while Tillous-Borde and Durand are on the books as scrum-halves. Apparently Michalak wants to play 9.


  • #349
    Swiwi
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Unbelievable that Sharks weren't carded, that's 3/4 penalties conceded on their line in the last 20 minutes.

    Kaplan used to be one of my fav refs (a few years ago now) but he is progressively worse with time


  • #350
    Swiwi
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    As a Toulon fan, I can't wait until he is sur la Rade. :D

    However he'll find it difficult to get into the team, he won't start at 10 because Wilkinson is there while Tillous-Borde and Durand are on the books as scrum-halves. Apparently Michalak wants to play 9.

    Wilkinson who? Glory days are a wee while ago now.


  • #351
    thomond2006
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    Swiwi wrote: »
    Wilkinson who? Glory days are a wee while ago now.

    You're right but his status is legendary in Toulon, he won't get dropped. The supporters adore him.


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