Titanfall

FlyingIrishMan · 30-10-2013 12:19am

COYVB wrote: »

Why? They were pretty clear about it when they announced it, no?

Not really, they said it was exclusive, and lots of developer interviews alluded to it being timed, and the question was always danced around when asked if it was timed or full exclusive.

COYVB · 30-10-2013 12:22am

I must've been very, very naive for this one lol. Honestly never realised it was in question at all. No clue how I missed that at all

FlyingIrishMan · 30-10-2013 12:28am

Well, Vince Zampella just said that the second titanfall will come to PS4 so I guess that's some good news.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706403

CatInABox · 30-10-2013 12:30am

Just had an interesting thought. Pure speculation on my part now, so be warned:

What if this is exclusive to the "Xbox Games" service? It's suspected that Microsoft killed "Games for Windows Live" to clear the decks for a relaunched push on PC games with out the baggage, so making this game use a new service would drive adoption of the service.

The PC sales lost from it not being on Steam would be nothing in comparison to what they sell on the Xbox anyway.

As I said, pure speculation, most likely pure bull as well, but just occurred to me.

FlyingIrishMan · 30-10-2013 12:32am

CatInABox wrote: »

Just had an interesting thought. Pure speculation on my part now, so be warned:

What if this is exclusive to the "Xbox Games" service? It's suspected that Microsoft killed "Games for Windows Live" to clear the decks for a relaunched push on PC games with out the baggage, so making this game use a new service would drive adoption of the service.

The PC sales lost from it not being on Steam would be nothing in comparison to what they sell on the Xbox anyway.

As I said, pure speculation, most likely pure bull as well, but just occurred to me.

I don't think MS have much to do with the PC version, EA are going to publish it on Origin and only Origin to give Origin another big exclusive title.

CatInABox · 30-10-2013 12:34am

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I don't think MS have much to do with the PC version, EA are going to publish it on Origin and only Origin to give Origin another big exclusive title.

That's true. Just a random thought anyway.

30-10-2013 3:28am

Pity it won't be on ps4. I was looking forward to playing it. I have no intention of ever buying an xbox and can't afford or be bothered getting a gaming pc. EA's loss I guess

danthefan · 30-10-2013 9:05am

Deleted User wrote: »

Pity it won't be on ps4. I was looking forward to playing it. I have no intention of ever buying an xbox and can't afford or be bothered getting a gaming pc. EA's loss I guess

If it's any consolation the console exclusivity seems to be only for this game, if there's a sequel it should be on PS4.

circadian · 30-10-2013 9:11am

It looks good but I can't help but feel that any of these releases using any sort of cloud computing are going to result in technical issues across the board.

Just look at pretty much every COD on release, GTA V or any other big multiplayer game.

NTMK · 30-10-2013 10:20am

CatInABox wrote: »

Just had an interesting thought. Pure speculation on my part now, so be warned:

What if this is exclusive to the "Xbox Games" service? It's suspected that Microsoft killed "Games for Windows Live" to clear the decks for a relaunched push on PC games with out the baggage, so making this game use a new service would drive adoption of the service.

The PC sales lost from it not being on Steam would be nothing in comparison to what they sell on the Xbox anyway.

As I said, pure speculation, most likely pure bull as well, but just occurred to me.

It will be an origin game. MS only wanted Console exclusivity and would have needed to pay EA another huge sum of money to have it totally exclusive as its another game for EA to sell origin as a platform.

The only reason to use MS's pc gaming services is for the netcode it can provide however EA already have that infrastucture in play and is better for the most part

ykt0di9url7bc3 · 08-01-2014 10:21am

Titanfall maximum player count set at 6v6

Polygon Link

Multiplayer matches of Respawn Entertainment's Titanfall will be capped at 12 players, Respawn founder Vince Zampella confirmed via twitter, outlining that the six human players on each team will be joined by AI support.

"6v6 is max player count. Turned out to be the best balance with AI for us," he wrote, responding to a fan's question about the game's player count. "That's humans only count. There are lots of AI, everyone can have a Titan in follow or guard mode too."

Now this is interesting. Is the AI like creep in a MOBA? Will the AI have any impact on the multiplayer immersion?

I know CS is 5v5 and Quakelive CTF is 4v4 etc but these are all in tournament mode, most CS servers have large amounts of players. Why not have it larger and have the community decide on the balance for competitive play? The same questions came out about the quick scoping and user run dedicated servers.

I dunno, I'm not a game designer and also, since this is an EA published release I am not investing any effort/interest until player reviews and reactions convince me otherwise.

RasTa · 08-01-2014 2:22pm

Seems small alright but that's compared to BF which I'm told doesn't work.

Cuddlesworth · 08-01-2014 2:29pm

RasTa wrote: »

Seems small alright but that's compared to BF which I'm told doesn't work.

They all work and have done 64 player well for a number of years on the pc.

To be honest, 6 v 6 seems very weak for a public based fps shooter. With the new gen consoles, this can't be a limitation based off of them.

Nazzu · 08-01-2014 2:43pm

Well we still do not know if the game will be 720p or 1080p on the Xbox, maybe 6 v 6 is all the game is able to manage onscreen to have the game run smoothly, although if it is only 720p it will be a bit of a kick in the teeth, it looks like EA are betting the house on Titanfall, but will it really bring in CoD and BF player with such a small player limit.

death1234567 · 08-01-2014 3:11pm

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

To be honest, 6 v 6 seems very weak for a public based fps shooter. With the new gen consoles, this can't be a limitation based off of them.

I think it just the way the game is designed. It's not just 6v6 on a map, it's 12 players, their mech's and then AI bots aswell.

Cuddlesworth · 08-01-2014 5:00pm

death1234567 wrote: »

I think it just the way the game is designed. It's not just 6v6 on a map, it's 12 players, their mech's and then AI bots aswell.

Over the years I've come to realise that I enjoy playing fps multiplayer games because facing up against other people is simply chaotic. The more people, the more the game can surprise you.

A game like TitanFall doesn't need AI to make it good. With Giant Mechs you expect relatively large maps, relatively large maps mean a reasonable amount of players.

I'm not sure if I like the idea of only 6 v 6. Seems like a unnecessary limitation.

humanji · 08-01-2014 5:09pm

Haven't they been harping on about it being some sort of story driven multiplayer game? Could that be a reason to have such small numbers playing at one, so they can direct the action how they want it to go?

Otacon · 08-01-2014 5:34pm

Fairly sure it was 8v8 when it was demoed at EGX. Still, if they can maintain the sheer level of fun I had when playing it there or even improve it by going with 6v6, then I'm all for it.

Magill · 08-01-2014 6:05pm

I didn't even realise there were bots in the game at all lol ! I thought the trailers and **** were just the usual scripted multiplayer stuff. Bit strange that you run around killing bots and players in the same game... wonder if the bots serve as anything more than just filler..

death1234567 · 10-01-2014 11:59am

Kyson Shaggy Needlework wrote: »

since this is an EA published release I am not investing any effort/interest until player reviews and reactions convince me otherwise.

This guy gets it. Don't just restrict it to EA though, its a wise strategy for every publisher. A good game is still a good game a week after release, it won't get worse if you don't pre-order.

RasTa · 10-01-2014 12:33pm

As far as Pachter can tell, Titanfall is poised to sell between 6-10 million based on critical reception

Bold prediction, think they will hit it?

http://www.igameresponsibly.com/2014/01/09/michael-pachter-forecasts-titanfall-sales-and-eas-expectations-for-the-title/

Although probably just clickbait from Pachter

Nazzu · 10-01-2014 12:44pm

Who Is Developing Titanfall for Xbox 360?
Which studio did Respawn pick, and why haven't we heard about it yet?

We are nine weeks away from Titanfall. We have never seen the Xbox 360 version of Microsoft’s flagship Xbox One shooter. We have no idea who is making that version of Respawn’s exciting multiplayer game.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/01/08/who-is-developing-titanfall-for-xbox-360

Wonder what Studio they went with, still have a lot of friends who have not made the next gen jump.

CatInABox · 10-01-2014 1:18pm

Nazzu wrote: »

Who Is Developing Titanfall for Xbox 360?
Which studio did Respawn pick, and why haven't we heard about it yet?

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2014/01/08/who-is-developing-titanfall-for-xbox-360

Wonder what Studio they went with, still have a lot of friends who have not made the next gen jump.

My guess is that this is a dictate from Microsoft. Why advertise the game on a console which you want people to migrate off.

As for the 6v6 limit, I'm totally fine with it. The game seems to have been designed to be based around that limit, which means that it'll work.

Apparently, there can be up to 50 combatants on a map, including players and Titans. See polygon here.

calex71 · 13-01-2014 2:10pm

Was going to pre order this but held off, not sure why but I expected .... actually just assumed this would have a single player element must have missed the memo on it being multiplayer only.

I know many who say FPS gmaes like cod and bf don't need the single player part these days, I like to dip in and out of multiplayer content it's not my primary focus unless it's co-op as opposed to competitive. So I think I'll be giving this one a miss.

Otacon · 13-01-2014 2:17pm

calex71 wrote: »

Was going to pre order this but held off, not sure why but I expected .... actually just assumed this would have a single player element must have missed the memo on it being multiplayer only.

I know many who say FPS gmaes like cod and bf don't need the single player part these days, I like to dip in and out of multiplayer content it's not my primary focus unless it's co-op as opposed to competitive. So I think I'll be giving this one a miss.

Similar to Need for Speed Rivals, I believe Titanfall will primarily be played online but I think you can also switch this off and use an offline mode with addition bots to play the game solo.

Mal-Adjusted · 13-01-2014 7:27pm

CatInABox wrote: »

My guess is that this is a dictate from Microsoft. Why advertise the game on a console which you want people to migrate off.

If that's the case, why bother with a 360 version at all? let it be next-gen exclusive. They must obviously be hoping it sells well on 360 or else they wouldn't be developing for it.

FAILSAFE 00 · 13-01-2014 9:47pm

CatInABox wrote: »

My guess is that this is a dictate from Microsoft. Why advertise the game on a console which you want people to migrate off.

Game Sales.

There are more Xbox 360 owners than Xbox One owners. Also with a console exclusivity deal on the table selling only to Xbox One customers would have been a deal breaker.

RasTa · 15-01-2014 7:12pm

Limited edition controller for people who are into that type of stuff

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wexdevil · 16-01-2014 11:10am

Anyone get any emails about the supposed alpha?

http://www.oxm.co.uk/69499/titanfall-xbox-one-alpha-trial-registration-site-goes-live/

I'm kind of suspicious of it myself but boy do I want it to be true(and also for me to get an invite

)

RasTa · 16-01-2014 11:43am

This could be worked in your favour, might be able to get some Killzone's cheap on adverts

It's Xtra-Vision/HMV

2smiggy · 17-01-2014 12:22pm

RasTa wrote: »

This could be worked in your favour, might be able to get some Killzone's cheap on adverts

It's Xtra-Vision/HMV

and knack !! i doubt they will take those two games though , I have the PS4 myslef , but I will be getting this for the PC.

It is released the same day as dark souls 2 though

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-01-2014 12:55pm

dark souls 2 isnt out the same day on pc, so you can play titanfall for (probably) a few weeks until DS2. provided you'd planned DS2 on pc

maximoose · 17-01-2014 12:59pm

Otacon wrote: »

Similar to Need for Speed Rivals, I believe Titanfall will primarily be played online but I think you can also switch this off and use an offline mode with addition bots to play the game solo.

I hope there actually is a story to Titanfall though. NFS rivals was fun for a while, but it was literally just doing the same things over and over with a couple of cut scenes that had no impact on the game.

Cuddlesworth · 17-01-2014 1:18pm

I thought the PC release of Titanfall was behind the consoles?

2smiggy · 17-01-2014 1:20pm

dark souls 2 will be on the PS3 for me, I don't have any xbox so titanfall will be on the PC.

Magill · 17-01-2014 1:25pm

Have you not got a controller for the pc ? It'll be so much better if there are any "blighttown" areas in ds2. Having solid frame rates alone is worth the wait imo.

2smiggy · 17-01-2014 1:32pm

Magill wrote: »

Have you not got a controller for the pc ? It'll be so much better if there are any "blighttown" areas in ds2. Having solid frame rates alone is worth the wait imo.

ya have a controller, I am in NG+ on dark souls on the PC , I went out and bought the PC version as well just to get the new content earlier !! I have my PC in a back room at the moment, and it's not comfortable as my sitting room for playing games. Plus dark souls 2 will be out on the consoles first , and i don't think i could wait for the PC release

jenjenten · 17-01-2014 3:27pm

multiplayer only?....i'm out!

Magill · 18-01-2014 4:54pm

Some of the "Alpha" footage being leaked (Same map etc we've already seen). Looks like it could be fun for a wee while, but i think this video shows one of the things im concerned about with the amount of AI bots in each match. Even just watching it, it feels more like a PVE Serious Sam shooter than an actual competitive multiplayer one. Like he just runs into a house and kills like 10 bots while they all stand there looking at him. I'm guessing they have like a 3/4 second lock-on period... they just look dumb as sh1t.. some of them are oblivious while getting shot in the back etc. I can just see that getting really boring and repetitive after a while.

I had thought the amount of AI was due to it aiming to be more than just a MP/CoD Clone and feeling more "Epic", but the more videos I see the more it looks like CoD with jetpacks and mechs. Maybe its just the map/mode tho. It'll probably be very appealing to the call of duty crowd, so that's certainly not a bad anything for respawn.. just not really expecting it to be universally loved outside of that market.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19v9ni_titanfall-closed-alpha-offscreen_videogames?start=156

FAILSAFE 00 · 18-01-2014 6:31pm

Magill wrote: »

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19v9ni_titanfall-closed-alpha-offscreen_videogames?start=156

That looks awesome.

More footage from the same website http://dai.ly/x19vjqc

Dcully · 18-01-2014 7:02pm

No interest whatsover in a multiplayer game with bots in it.
Ill get my futuristic sci-fi shooter fix with 6,000 players per server in planetside 2 thanks very much.

Headshot · 18-01-2014 7:03pm

yap I was really excited about this game until i heard there was going to be bots, stupid stupid thinking and real turn off

Nazzu · 18-01-2014 7:59pm

I hope this is not the target market Titanfall is going for

Magill · 18-01-2014 9:04pm

FAILSAFE 00 wrote: »

That looks awesome.

More footage from the same website http://dai.ly/x19vjqc

I guess im not as easily impressed anymore with my old age, i got into MP shooters with games like CS and TFC, that satisfying player vs player competitiveness. The bots sort of remind me of these "Z-bots" that you used to beable to download and mod CS with. They just run a few different roots and stand there for you to shoot them in the face. I noticed in these videos that they run that same root in all of the videos (Through that one building), will be a bit crap if they only have one or two roots.. people will just run like the clappers to get them easy points at the start of every game !

Its certainly gonna be better than any other shooter on the consoles atm tho, so i'm not saying its gonna be bad or anything, i just hope it doesn't get as repetitive as those videos make it look to me.

Nazzu wrote: »

I hope this is not the target market Titanfall is going for

Lol, thats hilarious, hes so mad, but yeah they are obviously targeting the call of duty and to a lesser extent the battlefield market.

RasTa · 18-01-2014 9:15pm

Jim Sterling has a nice piss take

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGn7SRDoGEU

super_furry · 18-01-2014 9:38pm

Any word on the PC specs yet? It's based of the Source engine so should be pretty scalable.

Mikeyt086 · 19-01-2014 12:32pm

So far from what I've read:

People who have played the game: "This is great and really fun."

People who have not played the game: "Bots? That's ****. This is ****."

So I'm still excited. As for the video above, I waited the whole time for him to spit tobacco into a bin, I was disappointed.

Magill · 19-01-2014 2:17pm

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

So far from what I've read:

People who have played the game: "This is great and really fun."

People who have not played the game: "Bots? That's ****. This is ****."

So I'm still excited. As for the video above, I waited the whole time for him to spit tobacco into a bin, I was disappointed.

People who have played it, have played it very briefly.. my concern isn't that the game won't be fun at first, its that killing bots on the same mp maps over and over could get really boring after a while. Its all just speculation tho, that's what this thread is for, maybe the bots aren't that intrusive or their AI gets improved during beta etc

I mean im still looking forward to it, i know i'll enjoy it for a few weeks even if its not as good as people are hyping it up to. Whether it will have a longer lifespan than the CoD and BF games have, for me, will just have to wait and see.

tok9 · 20-01-2014 2:39pm

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

So far from what I've read:

People who have played the game: "This is great and really fun."

People who have not played the game: "Bots? That's ****. This is ****."

So I'm still excited. As for the video above, I waited the whole time for him to spit tobacco into a bin, I was disappointed.

I wouldn't say that's exactly true.

I've played it. Found it very entertaining but I don't really understand the hype and the main reason for this is because it plays extremely similar to COD which must people seem to be sick of now.

If you like COD you'll like this... if not I don't really see this changing that.

gaynorvader · 20-01-2014 3:21pm

tok9 wrote: »

I wouldn't say that's exactly true.

I've played it. Found it very entertaining but I don't really understand the hype and the main reason for this is because it plays extremely similar to COD which must people seem to be sick of now.

If you like COD you'll like this... if not I don't really see this changing that.

I haven't played it, but the impressions I got from videos is that it's very pedestrian. I don't see anything that jumps out and goes "this game will be awesome!". We'll see though.

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