Samsung Galaxy S4 thread - See Mod Warning in Post #1

opinion guy · 15-03-2013 1:04am

Hogzy wrote: »

Can you link it?

http://live.cnet.com/Event/Samsung_Galaxy_event_live_blog

They cut to a video review for now but will go back to the studio after

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:05am

Hogzy wrote: »

Can you link it?

Really?

I do wonder why people can't look as it's the front page of Cnet.

Here's What Google Can Do!

opinion guy · 15-03-2013 1:08am

Rodin wrote: »

No altimeter?

Crap

They said it has a barometer

Hogzy · 15-03-2013 1:08am

murpho999 wrote: »

Really?

I do wonder why people can't look as it's the front page of Cnet.

Here's What Google Can Do!

That can be alot of hassle when on a mobile. CNET's website can sometimes be a little scattered.

Hogzy · 15-03-2013 1:08am

opinion guy wrote: »

Wow - anyone wathcing Cnet ?
They are tearing into the show - the one female presenter is highly offended (can't really blame her honestly)

BTW why the hell was she offended?

god's toy · 15-03-2013 1:09am

I like this phone more than I liked the S3 when I first seen it... The Verge is saying some of the software bits in the S4 will be coming to the S3 in time.

I like it I have to say and will have a think about this thing or the nexus 5.

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:11am

Alpha Dog 1 wrote: »

I want this phone already!

Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

Won't all phones have most of these features?

Still think the phone lacks in the design dept.

opinion guy · 15-03-2013 1:11am

Hogzy wrote: »

BTW why the hell was she offended?

The way they portrayed the women at the end - worried about nail polist, talkint about marrying the rich doctor and other such sterotypical stuff

Tar.Aldarion · 15-03-2013 1:13am

murpho999 wrote: »

Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

Won' all phones have most of these features?

Still think the phone lacks in the design dept.

How does it lack in the design department? It's an s3 basically, which is a great design imo

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:16am

murpho999 wrote: »

Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

Won' all phones have most of these features?

Still think the phone lacks in the design dept.

Better CPU, More Ram, Better Screen, Better Cameras, Better Battery, Bigger Storage, Better Features, Lighter, Slimmer.

The iphone got longer and added some aluminium and people **** their pants, its the same thing with this really except with much better specs

Kylo Ren · 15-03-2013 1:17am

murpho999 wrote: »

Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

Won't all phones have most of these features?

Still think the phone lacks in the design dept.

I think your 460 posts in Apple Devices and 15 in Android Devices may have something to do with that opinion.

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:18am

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

How does it lack in the design department? It's an s3 basically, which is a great design imo

Personal taste, but I find the S3 looks cheap and plastic, and this is no improvement.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:19am

murpho999 wrote: »

Personal taste, but I find the S3 looks cheap and plastic, and this is no improvement.

compared to what????

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:21am

Keno 92 wrote: »

I think your 460 posts in Apple Devices and 15 in Android Devices may have something to do with that opinion.

No, I post in the Apple Devices thread more as I have an iPhone and don't really post in Android devices as I don't have one.

However, that does not make me biased.

I would switch to Samsung or an another device if I saw benefits in it for me.

Also I don't take part in teenage Apple v Samsung or iOS v Android stuff.

WolfForager · 15-03-2013 1:22am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

compared to what????

HTC One

Kylo Ren · 15-03-2013 1:22am

murpho999 wrote: »

No, I post in the Apple Devices thread more as I have an iPhone and don't really post in Android devices as I don't have one.

However, that does not make me biased.

It kinda does though...

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:22am

WolfForager wrote: »

HTC One

It is nicely built i must say, really nice feel to it

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:23am

Keno 92 wrote: »

It kinda does though...

No it doesn't.

redman85 · 15-03-2013 1:23am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIOQxZih9zE

Looks like the software needs more work

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:24am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

compared to what????

I would argue that HTC, Lumia and iPhone are better looking phones.

It is down to personal taste though.

Hogzy · 15-03-2013 1:25am

murpho999 wrote: »

No it doesn't.

It does really to be honest. Clearly you have never used an Android phone so you have no authority to base your opinions.

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:29am

Hogzy wrote: »

It does really to be honest. Clearly you have never used an Android phone so you have no authority to base your opinions.

Have I spoken about the experience of the phone? No.

I've spoken about the look and feel of the phone, based on S3 tha I've had in my hand (that counts as real experience to me) and now the new images of the S4 which we all saw tonight.

Don't know why people are so defensive about this.

Kylo Ren · 15-03-2013 1:30am

murpho999 wrote: »

No it doesn't.

So you only owning apple devices does not make you biased when you critique its competitor.

Right.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:32am

murpho999 wrote: »

I would argue that HTC, Lumia and iPhone are better looking phones.

It is down to personal taste though.

That's true alright but do people actually buy phones for what they look like??

Its whats inside that counts is it not,

Not you but i bet most people have a stupid cover on their phone that makes the whole thing of liking the look of a phone pointless.

Thats an argument i never understand,

ohhhh i love how that looks, oh wait i'll cover it up with this cover so i never get a scratch on it, but wait i never get to enjoy the slickness and look of my phone which is why i bought it in the first place. silly

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:33am

Keno 92 wrote: »

So you only owning apple devices does not make you biased when you critique its competitor.

Right.

I've only critiqued the look of the phone, nothing else. Don't have to own a phone to decide if you like the look of somethiing.

Kylo Ren · 15-03-2013 1:34am

murpho999 wrote: »

I've only critiqued the look of the phone, nothing else. Don't have to own a phone to decide if you like the look of somethiing.

Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

.

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:37am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

That's true alright but do people actually buy phones for what they look like??

Its whats inside that counts is it not,

Not you but i bet most people have a stupid cover on their phone that makes the whole thing of liking the look of a phone pointless.

Thats an argument i never understand,

ohhhh i love how that looks, oh wait i'll cover it up with this cover so i never get a scratch on it, but wait i never get to enjoy the slickness and look of my phone which is why i bought it in the first place. silly

I think the look of the phone is very important for people.

Agree with you about the covers, I hate them but users would argue it protects them and also maintains its resale value.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:37am

He's only giving his opinion, if you dont like it please dont start a big Apple vs Android war, i want to read this thread and find out things about the phone, looking forward to more reviews and specs not listen to fanboy ****e from either side.

5starpool · 15-03-2013 1:39am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

That's true alright but do people actually buy phones for what they look like??

Its whats inside that counts is it not,

Not you but i bet most people have a stupid cover on their phone that makes the whole thing of liking the look of a phone pointless.

Thats an argument i never understand,

ohhhh i love how that looks, oh wait i'll cover it up with this cover so i never get a scratch on it, but wait i never get to enjoy the slickness and look of my phone which is why i bought it in the first place. silly

I don't understand that either. I made similar points to murpho in an earlier post about the design and some of the software features. I think the similar look and feel is a strategy to establish a brand and image that is already well underway, but I think I would prefer some innovations on the design side as well, especially since I am very much on the 'never get a cover' side of the argument. The function is important, but tbh, the looks will be what sell a lot of phones, even to those that cover them up. Don't fix if it ain't broken perhaps, but I prefer evolving design rather than sticking for the sake of the brand.

FWIW, I'm not a fan of the iphone design either and think that could do with a huge shake up as well, although I have no intention of switching to them so that's a moot point perhaps.

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:40am

Keno 92 wrote: »

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Why, I didn't really see anything amazing apart from gimmicky apps.

This is getting childish now, that was a remark about the new features mentioned tonight.

No one has experience of them yet, so to follow your logic no one should say anything good or bad about them.

I think it's fair comment to say that a lot of the new features shown tonight, were nice, but are gimmicky, and will not really be used by most people.

Kylo Ren · 15-03-2013 1:40am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

He's only giving his opinion, if you dont like it please dont start a big Apple vs Android war, i want to read this thread and find out things about the phone, looking forward to more reviews and specs not listen to fanboy ****e from either side.

I don't own an Android or an iPhone. He can give his opinion, I was just stating that he is obviously biased in said opinion.

opinion guy · 15-03-2013 1:40am

Anything about price range on it ?

No intention of getting one, just curious

murpho999 · 15-03-2013 1:43am

Keno 92 wrote: »

I don't own an Android or an iPhone. He can give his opinion, I was just stating that he is obviously biased in said opinion.

I fail to see how finding a design poor is biased.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:43am

murpho999 wrote: »

I think the look of the phone is very important for people.

Agree with you about the covers, I hate them but users would argue it protects them and also maintains its resale value.

I never use a cover myself, hate them, just takes away the feel of the phone, ive tried but its still pointless to buy a phone on looks and put a cover on it and not being able to get the proper feel or look of a phone, no matter how much it protects it.

Theres covers out there that cover so much you could have a nokia 3210 in there (a bit too far

but ya know what i mean)

Anyway, had many a phone, From nokia to apple and siemens to samsung, so i'll be giving this a try and see how she runs. Be rude not too

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:44am

Keno 92 wrote: »

I don't own an Android or an iPhone. He can give his opinion, I was just stating that he is obviously biased in said opinion.

I wasnt giving out dont mind me i was just saying in general

AlmightyCushion · 15-03-2013 1:52am

Just seen the dimensions. It's the same height as the S3 but is a little thinner and not as wide (practically no difference in width though). That's impressive, I'd still prefer if they had kept it just as thick (it feels wrong using that word when taking about phones as thin as the S3 but you know what I mean) as the S3 but put in an even bigger battery.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 1:55am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Just seen the dimensions. It's the same height as the S3 but is a little thinner and not as wide (practically no difference in width though). That's impressive, I'd still prefer if they had kept it just as thick (it feels wrong using that word when taking about phones as thin as the S3 but you know what I mean) as the S3 but put in an even bigger battery.

As long as it gets porn hub, i couldn't care less how she looks or runs :cool:

omega666 · 15-03-2013 1:56am

The launch was a bit crap but who cares, its the phone i'm interested in.
Looks very similar to S3 which is not a bad thing to be honest.
Unless you already own an S3 i dont think you would be too bothered.
Specs and software look amazing.

Hogzy · 15-03-2013 2:00am

What was the S3 like in terms of battery life. I never really accept opinions in professional reviews, id prefer the opinions of real world users.

Chet T16 · 15-03-2013 2:10am

Hogzy wrote: »

What was the S3 like in terms of battery life. I never really accept opinions in professional reviews, id prefer the opinions of real world users.

I'm on 57% now having been up since 8ish. I used to have to switch my S2 to a second battery around 4pm

Tar.Aldarion · 15-03-2013 2:17am

murpho999 wrote: »

I think the look of the phone is very important for people.

Agree with you about the covers, I hate them but users would argue it protects them and also maintains its resale value.

We all have s3s in work, within 2 weeks 6 were broken. Covers are quite important imo, I see a lot of the no cover brigade walking around with borken screens. Fair play to people who can take care of it without a cover though! I'd have broken mine a dozen times by now. Pity as I love the phone design, unlike you

murpho999 wrote: »

This is getting childish now, that was a remark about the new features mentioned tonight.

No one has experience of them yet, so to follow your logic no one should say anything good or bad about them.

I think it's fair comment to say that a lot of the new features shown tonight, were nice, but are gimmicky, and will not really be used by most people.

I really don't get the hate towards you, i can see what you are saying and it's a valid opinion. Some things were indeed cool, lots were gimmicky and the design is the same. People get too fanboyish and defensive. Even if you were biased towards iPhones, the points are valid points anybody could make.

Hogzy wrote: »

What was the S3 like in terms of battery life. I never really accept opinions in professional reviews, id prefer the opinions of real world users.

I use it quite heavily, gps tracking my cycling to and from work, youtube, browsing, and it lasts about a day. More towards two if i'm not using it as much. eeing as it sits on my desk charging most the time it doesn't matter s long as it's a day I'm happy. Jellybean improved battery a lot for me.

AlmightyCushion · 15-03-2013 2:19am

Hogzy wrote: »

What was the S3 like in terms of battery life. I never really accept opinions in professional reviews, id prefer the opinions of real world users.

I find it pretty good. I'd use the S3 a lot and would usually be at about 50% about now. I don't watch a lot of videos but I use it as an MP3 player and would use it a lot for internet/email etc so the screen would be on quite a bit.

The S4 has a 30% larger battery. The screen will more than likely eat up a bit more juice than the S3 but not a hell of a lot I'd imagine. The processor is harder to judge. We will more than likely be getting the Exynos processor. The Cortex A7 is the low power part of the chip but is still pretty damn powerful. It will be less powerful than the processor in the S3 but will use less power than it. For most uses bar the higher end stuff like complex games I reckon this is the processor that is active. For the more extreme heavy lifting it will switch to the A15 part of the processor. If it does use the A7 part for most uses then the new Exynos will use less power than the Exynos in the S3 with no real noticeable difference. Battery life on the S4 should be pretty damn good, better than the S3.

dloob · 15-03-2013 2:27am

0ph0rce0 wrote: »

Better CPU, More Ram, Better Screen, Better Cameras, Better Battery, Bigger Storage, Better Features, Lighter, Slimmer.

The iphone got longer and added some aluminium and people **** their pants, its the same thing with this really except with much better specs

The iphone 5 also got Better CPU, More RAM, Better Screen, Better Camera, Better Battery, Bigger Storage options, Better Features, Lighter and Slimmer.

And it got all the abuse because it looked similar to its predecessor.
Now it's Samsung's turn to get the same abuse as the S3 to S4 is an even smaller appearance change than 4S to 5

Testament1 · 15-03-2013 5:35am

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

We all have s3s in work, within 2 weeks 6 were broken. Covers are quite important imo, I see a lot of the no cover brigade walking around with borken screens. Fair play to people who can take care of it without a cover though! I'd have broken mine a dozen times by now. Pity as I love the phone design, unlike you

I spent 6 months jumping in and out tractors and general roughhousing in the family agri contracting business with my S2 with no cover and dropped it a few times aswell and not a bother to it. Got a nice clean indoors job for the winter and within a week id a crack going across the screen after dropping it there! Didnt get to find out how sturdy my S3 was as I lost it within 24 hours of getting it :rolleyes:

Havent got around to reading the reviews of this phone yet so cant comment on the new features but in terms of design Im not too bothered that it hasnt changed as the S3/Note 2 template is a solid one. Samsung could potentially have alienated a lot more customers if the design had been radically changed and it didnt go down well and also the current design does help to reinforce some sort of brand recognition.

King Krib · 15-03-2013 8:32am

After waiting to hear all details about the S4 it kind of feels a bit of an anticlimax. 5'' 1080p screen,so what...
Nothing here to blow to you away. When you've a cash cow milk it I suppose.

0ph0rce0 · 15-03-2013 8:35am

dloob wrote: »

The iphone 5 also got Better CPU, More RAM, Better Screen, Better Camera, Better Battery, Bigger Storage options, Better Features, Lighter and Slimmer.

And it got all the abuse because it looked similar to its predecessor.
Now it's Samsung's turn to get the same abuse as the S3 to S4 is an even smaller appearance change than 4S to 5

I do agree with the look and what not, except these speces make the iphone 5 look like ****e (on paper that is) await for the full hands on review

PogMoThoin · 15-03-2013 8:38am

King Krib wrote: »

After waiting to hear all details about the S4 it kind of feels a bit of an anticlimax. 5'' 1080p screen,so what...
Nothing here to blow to you away. When you've a cash cow milk it I suppose.

Not sure what you were expecting, we are kinda at a limit on size terms, any bigger and you'd need giant hands. Don't see how going to a higher resolution than 1080p would make a difference either, when video is up to 1080p.

beno619 · 15-03-2013 8:50am

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

I find it pretty good. I'd use the S3 a lot and would usually be at about 50% about now. I don't watch a lot of videos but I use it as an MP3 player and would use it a lot for internet/email etc so the screen would be on quite a bit.

The S4 has a 30% larger battery. The screen will more than likely eat up a bit more juice than the S3 but not a hell of a lot I'd imagine. The processor is harder to judge. We will more than likely be getting the Exynos processor. The Cortex A7 is the low power part of the chip but is still pretty damn powerful. It will be less powerful than the processor in the S3 but will use less power than it. For most uses bar the higher end stuff like complex games I reckon this is the processor that is active. For the more extreme heavy lifting it will switch to the A15 part of the processor. If it does use the A7 part for most uses then the new Exynos will use less power than the Exynos in the S3 with no real noticeable difference. Battery life on the S4 should be pretty damn good, better than the S3.

I would have massive question marks about performance and battery, as you saw in the hands on quad A7's arnt that powerful and TouchWiz looks more demanding than ever. When those A15's kick in they are going to suck up juice unless their heavily downclocked.
DDR3 memory is power hungry as well.
Have to commend Samsung for putting that massive battery in but Exynos 5 is going to need a lot of work compared to the US S600 Galaxy S3s.

PogMoThoin · 15-03-2013 8:56am

dloob wrote: »

The iphone 5 also got Better CPU, More RAM, Better Screen, Better Camera, Better Battery, Bigger Storage options, Better Features, Lighter and Slimmer.

And it got all the abuse because it looked similar to its predecessor.
Now it's Samsung's turn to get the same abuse as the S3 to S4 is an even smaller appearance change than 4S to 5

Because you shouldn't compare it to it's predecessor, you should compare it to what the competition are planning on releasing. The iPhone 5 got slammed cos it was way behind when compared to the competition

King Krib · 15-03-2013 9:29am

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Not sure what you were expecting, we are kinda at a limit on size terms, any bigger and you'd need giant hands. Don't see how going to a higher resolution than 1080p would make a difference either, when video is up to 1080p.

What I meant was, It's all been hyped up for months and it all passed like a damp squib. An official release date wasn't even announced nor the full specs from what I've read.

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