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General UFC Chit Chat/News

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    ASOT wrote: »
    I think your underestimating the TD defence of Gus, he stuffed 10 of Jones 11 TDs when they fought, I know Jones isnt on the same level as DC but he is a fairly good wrestler, Managed to take Jones down for the first time in his career to. It would be a great fight imo but i really don't think he would get smashed! I get were your coming from through, DCs probably the only person who I could see control 99% of the roster on the ground with ease for 5 rounds just because of his size and power. The 1% being Cain who i think goes through him for a shortcut.

    His TDD is pretty good now but i believe he only took Jones down purely out of the shock factor. When/if they fight again i think the chances of Gus taking Jones down is 0. Stuffing Jones takedowns is impressive but DC has literally rag dolled Josh Barnett before, imagine what he would do once he was near Gus. I guess smashed is the wrong word but i think it is a bad match up for Gus. I don't think Cain smashes DC at all, it would be a very interesting fight though and it is a big shame they are training partners.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    mailburner wrote: »
    Don't see that happening at all
    cant wait to see aj v any of the other three mentioned though
    no idea how jones fight will pan out, think jones might keep dc at bay
    for five and earn a decision, really hope Im wrong though

    I think Gus and DC both beat AJ IMO. Gus with the technical striking and DC by grinding him down. Jones to beat AJ with range also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,122 ✭✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead



    Maybe I'm cynical, but I've yet to understand how a muay thai tournament is going to spread the word of god...

    "Dear god, we thank you for these nuts which are about to swell, that they may bear fruit..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Trying to get Artem Lobov to fight Dennis Siver in Stockholm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    What happened to his original opponent Rob Whiteford? Did he pull out?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 263 ✭✭Locomotion


    p to the e wrote: »
    Trying to get Artem Lobov to fight Dennis Siver in Stockholm.]

    Artem Lobov who has a 10-10-1 record?? Very much doubt Dana would even consider him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    He was also being soundly beaten in his last fight before coming back to win when the ref stopped the fight with only one second to go in the last round..........


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,590 ✭✭✭CurryFlavoured


    Looks like he's chancing his arm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    Artem is an old school fighter. He fights to fight, and is renowned for taking fights on short notice. He never tried to protect his record. He got in because he likes to fight, anyone any-time.

    If you look at who he has beaten it would give you a much better idea of the calibre of fighter he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    JDS vs Miocic and Overeem vs Struve in the works for UFC on Fox in December.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Locomotion wrote: »
    Artem Lobov who has a 10-10-1 record?? Very much doubt Dana would even consider him

    Dana loves a scrap and if Artem gets in there with Siver then someone is definitely going to sleep. His record doesn't look great at first viewing but it didn't stop Mark Hunt or Neil Seery getting in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    It's not up to Dana, he isn't the ufc's matchmaker. It's up to Silva or Shelby, in this case it's prob the latter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    He was also being soundly beaten in his last fight before coming back to win when the ref stopped the fight with only one second to go in the last round..........

    A win is a win, If I'm beating someone and they can't defend themselves I expect the ref to do his job and not ignore it just because there is a second left


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,327 ✭✭✭p to the e


    Mellor wrote: »
    It's not up to Dana, he isn't the ufc's matchmaker. It's up to Silva or Shelby, in this case it's prob the latter.

    I think Shelby does the lower weight classes alright. I wonder how much Dana could influence their firing and hiring though? I'm sure if he liked the cut of their jib (there's a phrase I've never used before) that he could tell them to make sure this guy gets on the books.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    p to the e wrote: »
    I think Shelby does the lower weight classes alright. I wonder how much Dana could influence their firing and hiring though? I'm sure if he liked the cut of their jib (there's a phrase I've never used before) that he could tell them to make sure this guy gets on the books.

    Oh yeah if course, he clearly has influence if he wanted to use it. I just meant, in this spot Dana is prob no involved with looking for a match for Siver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭themandan6611




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT



    Yeah its based off of this

    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/9/19/6557109/ufc-anthony-rumble-johnsons-ex-restraining-order-domestic-violence

    Fairly certain thats him gone now anyway if its true. What a moron throwing away his second chance in the UFC. This is really after annoying me im a major AJ fan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭themandan6611


    allegations at this stage, doesn't look good especially with the high profile coverage of d.violence in the US recently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    allegations at this stage, doesn't look good especially with the high profile coverage of d.violence in the US recently

    Yep exactly, the UFC have gone zero tolerance on domestic violence aswell lately. I assume thats why they have there own lawyers involved, I hope there not true anyway because i wouldnt like to see AJ cut. At the end of the day though i only care what they do in the octagon not outside of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    And incase anyone else didnt see Thiago Silvas gone again!

    http://www.mmafighting.com/2014/9/19/6567581/thiago-silva-released-again-from-the-ufc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    AJ should be cut immediately if allegations are proven. Victimising and intimidating a lone woman. Absolute scumbag if it's true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,480 ✭✭✭Devastator


    http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/9/19/6541975/ufc-thiago-silva-ex-wife-posts-video-allegedly-high-cocaine-searching-house-gun-pre-arrest-mma-news

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    While the court case against Thiago Silva may not be going forward, is ex-wife is apparently publishing her own evidence of his actions.
    Tweet (43) Share (152) Share 214 Comments

    Well, this certainly does not look good for Thiago Silva, and could get a lot worse depending on what other video his ex-wife has of him. Apparently, Thaysa Kamiji posted two videos to YouTube recently, shot on her camera off her laptop, that Globo's Extra allege show Silva high on cocaine and, in the second video, show Silva searching her house for a person she might be hiding in the house, while carrying a concealed weapon in his pocket.
    The gun Silva is carrying does make an appearance about 35 seconds in, however the second video that shows him allegedly on drugs, does not in fact show him using drugs. But, neither paints a good picture of Silva. In the video above, Silva appears to question why his ex-wife Thaysa Kamiji is filming him, accusing her of distracting him from the man she has hidden in the house. In the meantime, Thaysa asks for the gun he is carrying, and tells him she's taping him in case he kills her. According to Extra, here's their conversation (translation by Fernando Arbex):
    Thiago: Why did you call the cops, honey? I did nothing, why are you recording?
    Thiago: Honey, Why are you doing this? Tell me.
    Thaysa: Thiago, stop staring like that. Give the gun, please, I'm here.
    Thiago: Turn off the camera. I know that you are hiding a guy up there, do you think that I'm a fool?
    Thaysa: Which guy, Thiago?
    Thiago: You think that I'm stupid. You're pointing this at my face, so I can't see that stuff over there. Take that light out of my face, please.
    Thaysa: No, Thiago, because it will be a proof if I die.
    Thiago: Proof of what, you aren't going to die. You are lying, there is a guy and he'll do something, I'm not stupid.
    Thaysa: Thiago, one day you're going to kill because of your addiction.
    Thiago: I'm not going to kill you. You're doing something.
    Thaysa: What am I doing, Thiago?
    Thiago: You called a guy to come here. Take this light out of me.
    Thaysa: I'm recording you, Thiago.
    Thiago: Why are you doing this?
    Thaysa: To show you everything when you get normal again, you've never brought a gun before.
    Thiago: I did nothing. Stop lying.
    Thaysa: You have a gun in your hand.
    Thiago: It's in my pocket, I did nothing.
    Here's the second video she apparently posted, claiming the footage is of Thiago on high on cocaine.
    UPDATE: Along with the videos, Silva's ex-wife gave her story as to why she decided to abandon the case against him and move to Abu Dhabi:
    "I've lived 13 years beside him. I've worked so he could train, I invested in his career even before he could think to be an MMA fighter. I was his foundation and I was assaulted, had an abortion due a beating that he gave me. But I thought that he was going to change. Because of my love, I didn't report his acts to the authorities. We were unbeatable together, I've always thought that he could change, I used to say that it was because of his camps and his upcoming fights. But he never changed."
    "He had always had drug issues. I've always thought that it was because his childhood problems that he didn't change. But things got worse since 2012. Cocaine, molly and marijuana started to be common in his life. He even made a bar of our house, he get turned on cocaine until' morning and had to drink at 7am trying to sleep. I just lived a nightmare."
    ""I'm still afraid. Cause I, since the beginning, told the State that I had everything against him, that they had to organize. The State just said they would use it in court. But over there (US) everything takes a lot of time, unlike us Brazilians, we want to solve everything immediately. I felt used and unprotected, while Thiago's managers paid a lot of money for his defense and coerced me, so everything got rough for me... where I lived, my car, my dogs ... Wow, they made my life a hell."
    "We've come (her and her boyfriend) to Abu Dhabi. I'm working with what I love to do. Once the tragedy happened, I reported everything in the therapy that I was doing in 'Women in Distress'. Even the detective knew that I wanted to move here, I couldn't lose the opportunity to start over."



    Gone. Won't return again I expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    DrPhilG wrote: »

    Seen that just there, glad hes gone to be honest. Gutted Chael never got to smash his head in though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,387 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    DrPhilG wrote: »

    Christ actually watched that video in the link...why'd I do it to meself?:eek::eek::eek:

    The UFC may certainly have its wrongs with the way they treat some of their fighters but Wanderlei isn't one of them well looked after paid handsomely (200k or so a fight not inc. bonuses).

    Trusted with a coaching role on their TV show now I know this was to benefit their Brazil market also but gives more exposure to a fighter which he turned into a negative from what I heard as didn't watch that season.

    His career in the UFC was until his last fight pretty much living of that Jardine KO and his Pride highlights his overall record in the UFC was abysmal. He gives out in that video about Barao being overworked by the UFC, Barao made that choice plus he wouldn't know anything about that he fought 1-2 fights a year at best for the UFC.

    Now I loved his aggressive style of fighting as much as the next person but I've wanted him to retire long ago....after the Leben fight to be exact. I thought that was embarrassing for him that video tops it stinks of self pity awful idea and a sad end....that's not the end...apparently!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool




  • Registered Users Posts: 198 ✭✭mark13


    http://instagram.com/p/tRCtAnPA5z/


    Weidman has a hairline fracture. It will be casted 4 weeks, cleared in 6. He'll be fighting Vitor in February now. Robbie Lawler will face Johny Hendricks for the title at UFC 181 on Dec. 6.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Another title fight delay...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    News breaking now: Wanderlai given lifetime ban in Nevada. He retired before he was banned for life.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    unknown13 wrote: »
    News breaking now: Wanderlai given lifetime ban in Nevada. He retired before he was banned for life.

    Id say he was dead wide to what was coming so retired, same way Chael did the same when he knew the second failed test would come out. Hes also been fined $70k Link - http://mmajunkie.com/2014/09/nsac-issues-lifetime-ban-70000-fine-for-wanderlei-silva

    The commission have fined Jones $50k and ordered him to do 40 hours community service, DC fined 9k and ordered to do 20 hours community service.

    Formiga and Moraga announced for UFC on Fox 13, cannot wait for this one. Winner surely gets the next crack at MM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    ASOT wrote: »
    Id say he was dead wide to what was coming so retired

    Totally agree. Its a strange scenario that two bitter enemies both ended up given lengthy bans and retired as a result before they could fight in the octagon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭KJ


    Nate Diaz returns in December against Dos Anjos. Can't wait for that fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 372 ✭✭johnybean


    KJ wrote: »
    Nate Diaz returns in December against Dos Anjos. Can't wait for that fight.
    Stockton whut!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    KJ wrote: »
    Nate Diaz returns in December against Dos Anjos. Can't wait for that fight.

    Wow, they are throwing him straight back in at the deep end. Will be a brilliant fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭Easy Rod


    John_D80 wrote: »
    Wow, they are throwing him straight back in at the deep end. Will be a brilliant fight.

    It's not like he's been out injured or anything.

    Will be a quality fight though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,539 ✭✭✭John_D80


    Easy Rod wrote: »
    It's not like he's been out injured or anything.

    Em yeah I know, just saying it will be a really great fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,615 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Just announced, Frankie Edgar vrs Cub Swanson in Texas
    https://twitter.com/ufc/status/514928857833426944


    Assuming this will be the number 1 contender match


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Zero-Cool


    That should be such a great fight! Don't know who to even go for, both are good guys, hard to dislike either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭KJ


    sheehy83 wrote: »
    That should be such a great fight! Don't know who to even go for, both are good guys, hard to dislike either.

    I like both but I reckon Cub will do the business.

    Bobby Green vs Edson Barboza has been announced and that will be a cracker of a fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Frankie is the cheese though. If Frankie opens as an underdog i'm backing him!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭Oregano_State


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146

    More garbage from the IT on MMA/UFC. Seems the sport has really rattled the status quo and some people are desperate to have a pop.

    I went looking for the writer on twitter to give him an earful but I don't think he's on it. Disappointed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 445 ✭✭canonball5


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146

    More garbage from the IT on MMA/UFC. Seems the sport has really rattled the status quo and some people are desperate to have a pop.

    I went looking for the writer on twitter to give him an earful but I don't think he's on it. Disappointed.

    Good Lord what a pile for ****e that article is.
    It's clearly a journalist looking to be controversial to gain some publicity for himself and his paper.

    They see how well the sport is doing and in typical Irish fashion begrudge it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,387 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    canonball5 wrote: »
    Good Lord what a pile for ****e that article is.
    It's clearly a journalist looking to be controversial to gain some publicity for himself and his paper.

    They see how well the sport is doing and in typical Irish fashion begrudge it.

    Doesn't have a clue one of these who refers to UFC as the sport rather than the organisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Doesn't have a clue one of these who refers to UFC as the sport rather than the organisation.

    8mS65Uk.jpg

    I honestly hate when people do that, i think it annoys me alot more than it should but people that say "I train UFC" shouldn't reproduce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis


    Any talk of Neil Seery getting a fight soon?

    Very new to watching MMA, but have read good bit about him, well what's available anyway.

    Would love to see him fighting again soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,772 ✭✭✭civis_liberalis



    WHAT THE ACTUAL FCK WAS THAT?
    For a sport turning 21 later this year, the UFC has, in a whole lot of different ways, some serious growing up to do.

    The irony. What a ****.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    I don't know why you guys put yourself through reading these ignorant articles. I wouldn't read an article about quantum physics written by Kim Kardasian, so why would I read an article on MMA by a guy who thinks the sport is called "UFC"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    I get that I do.

    But I feckin hate stupid ass journalists with a passion so I, for one, am going to write a letter to the editor on that one... and I'd hope a few more do too. He has a very big influential stick ahem... being an IT journalist he effects the minds of so many potentially and that pisses me off that he can do that with impunity. But I do get your point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    This is the article if anyone interested or would like to comment under it
    _____________

    Serious questions to be asked of UFC on its 21st birthday

    Despite celebrating 21 years, the mixed martial arts sport’s maturity is in real doubt



    On New Year’s Day 2011, Dustin Poirier made his UFC debut and began the journey towards his showdown with Conor McGregor at the MGM Grand Arena in Las Vegas this Saturday night.

    That first time out on the big stage, Poirier gained a unanimous decision over another promising young featherweight named Josh Grispi. In defeat, Grispi’s career went on a different trajectory and he was released by UFC last year. Seven weeks ago, he was arrested on a litany of charges including training his pit-bull to maul his wife. A Massachusetts policeman described it as “the worst case of domestic abuse I’ve ever seen”.

    In the two months that have passed since a lot of Irish people were so enthralled by the spectacle offered by McGregor and his cohorts at the O2 in Dublin, UFC fighters, past and present, have generated headlines for acts of violence against women, each incident seemingly more horrific than the last.

    Thiago Silva put a gun in his ex-wife’s mouth and threatened to shoot. The mother of Anthony Johnson’s children got a restraining order after he knocked out two of her teeth. And, War Machine, also known as Jon Koppenhaver, has been charged with attempted murder following an assault on his ex-girlfriend that broke 18 bones in her face.
    Disturbing pattern
    Very few of these names will mean much in Ireland, especially to UFC neophytes attracted to the octagon by McGregor’s swagger and brio, but they are important because they illustrate a disturbing pattern of behaviour towards women by some in this sport. In the wake of the NFL’s mishandling of the Ray Rice scandal, and an ensuing increased awareness of the issue across America, the UFC has lately started to address the problem, albeit in a ham-fisted way.

    After his ex-wife refused to testify against him, Silva was reinstated and deemed eligible to fight, only to be cut again two weeks later after video footage emerged of him brandishing a gun at her. Johnson has been suspended indefinitely and, as the UFC is quick to point out, War Machine and Grispi were no longer with the organisation at the time of their alleged crimes.

    This might be known as the WWE defence – take no responsibility for the damage your fighters inflict once they leave your house.

    “There are no rules,” boasted the UFC when it unleashed itself upon the world in 1993 and that mantra became its initial selling point. While more and more regulations were incorporated as it gravitated from the fringe towards mainstream respectability and annual revenues of $500 million, a culture of lawlessness has proven more difficult to stifle.

    Two years ago, Anheuser-Busch threatened to withdraw sponsorship unless the UFC addressed the rampant sexism and homophobia so prevalent around the sport.




    And then there’s the steroids.

    “I tried to get the Nevada State Athletic Commission to test, I made requests, ultimatums, everything,” said Tim Kennedy, a middleweight who fights on the UFC 178 undercard alongside McGregor-Poirier on Saturday. “It reached a point of no response. I just didn’t hear back. So, here I am, a week out from my fight and I could have been taking anabolic steroids during my entire camp. It’s a problem.”

    Although experience has taught us to be wary of athletes protesting too much about drugs, that Kennedy was willing to underwrite the cost of testing himself and his opponent Yoel Romero, and still could find nobody to do it, sums up the UFC’s rather lax approach to performance-enhancing substances.

    Earlier this year, Dana White, the charismatic president of UFC, roared and bawled at reporters who dared to suggest more needed to be done to root out the steroid cheats.

    Tested positive
    A few marquee names have tested positive since then which at least gives the impression the sport is taking it more seriously. Of course, how many they might catch if every fighter (there are only around 500 on the roster) was subjected to rigorous, random out-of-competition testing is an obvious question.

    Given that ’roid rage and domestic violence are so regularly linked, reports that the UFC may finally implement just such a drug policy early next year offers hope for the future. Confronting one menace may help in the battle against another.

    Before the current spate of scandals, the UFC was, ironically, making an effort to increase its female audience, and all the contestants on its latest “The Ultimate Fighter” reality show are women.

    It has to find new viewers from somewhere because a vocal faction of longer-standing fans have lately grown disillusioned. After a decade of expansion, the proliferation of shows all over the world has diluted the quality of the fare on offer. The best no longer take on the best often enough, and pay-per-view sales have suffered accordingly.

    The natives are getting restless too. After announcing his retirement last week, Wanderlei Silva, an icon of the sport (who on Tuesday, incidentally, was banned from fighting in Nevada for running away from a drug tester), denounced the UFC for underpaying fighters and for trying to persuade them to get in the cage when unfit. What was most interesting about the Brazilian’s statement was the amount of public support it quickly elicited from other disenchanted fighters and supporters.

    For a sport turning 21 later this year, the UFC has, in a whole lot of different ways, some serious growing up to do.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/serious-questions-to-be-asked-of-ufc-on-its-21st-birthday-1.1940146?page=2


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