Neighbourhood Watch Merged Thread

Zaph · 11-10-2012 7:09pm

Larbre34, I've edited your post. I see no need to include details of ethnicity or nationality in posts of that nature as it adds nothing to the post.

nudger · 11-10-2012 11:49pm

Zaph wrote: »

Larbre34, I've edited your post. I see no need to include details of ethnicity or nationality in posts of that nature as it adds nothing to the post.

I don't agree, I wouldn't have described the guy in so many similar ethnic terms as Lambre34 before describing him simply as a young black guy.

Is there a problem in saying an old white guy, a small heavy set guy, a tall country sounding guy, or is it only colour that you are not happy with?

I looked at the charter and understand that racial comments are not on.

A lot of what this thread is about is warning people in the area about crime, and to warn about those involved in committing the crime.

If you censor the descriptions of those we suspect of carrying out these crimes then we may as well say "I saw it break my window" or not bother to post at all.

What do you think as an Admin, is saying he had a Dub accent or an Eastern european accent a problem, personally I don't.

Zaph · 12-10-2012 12:05am

If the post was reporting a specific incident where he was mugged by the guy or saw him committing a crime, then yes, as precise a description as possible is definitely warranted, and that includes colour, nationality, accent, etc., as well as other non-personal details such as location. But where a post is non-specific, such as this one merely mentioning seeing a teenager being chased by the Gardaí in an unspecified location without actually knowing what was going on, then whether they were white, black, purple or polka dot is completely immaterial. Now to be fair to Larbre34, they did seem to be trying to be as politically correct as possible in their post, but it wasn't removed on PC grounds, but rather I saw it as an irrelevant detail given the nature of the rest of the post.

nudger · 12-10-2012 12:32am

Thanks for the explanation, most of the posts here are close calls, 2nd hand information or, hear say, so the descriptions may be a bit sketchy, but we hope they are helpful to those living in the area as a resource.

The better the descriptions that we give without the PC crap the better.

Leave the judging to you.

Cheers.

wildlifeboy · 12-10-2012 10:03am

not sure why anyone would want to steal a cat.. pretty strange. if it is for a pet for someone else the cat will most likely attempt to make its own way back home as they do. as for the garda chasing your man. its a simple case of overweight laziness. i would have vaulted that gate and been hot on his heels no hassle. stupid lazy gits. ah sure pj we'll catch him again

Larbre34 · 12-10-2012 3:14pm

I respect the moderation of posts and I know why its done but I would have included whatever ethnicity he was, white, oriental asian, sub-continental asian etc, in case it rang a bell with a particular incident other readers might have been aware of that had the Gardaí after him in the first place

I admit I was being tongue in cheek with the PC descriptions as when you say black you'll always get some smartarse coming commenting that it should be african, black-irish or whatever and I wanted to take the heat out of that irrelevance straight away. Apologies if that backfired somewhat, but I hope people see the substance of the post

nudger · 13-10-2012 7:47pm

The Traveler kids pretending to be looking for sponsorship, begging under false pretences are back going door to door on the Navan road again, this time 6 kids running door to door followed by 2 cars.
Called Cabra station, no answer.
The locals were shouting at them to go away, "scam merchants" "here every week".

clubcrown · 16-10-2012 12:09pm

9 houses - including mine - were broken into across Limelawn / Charnwood / Castlefield in Clonsilla Sunday night.

The gits got my car, laptop phone and watch. Broke in through the front door and for some reason my alarm didn't trigger. A lesson learned.

Anyway, they are out there, so keep an eye out. Police reckon it was the same guy did all the houses, seeing as he had a nice new car to travel around in :-(

On the off chance the car has been abandoned somewhere in your estate - its a grey/brown VW Passat, 11d 5022.

RTT · 16-10-2012 2:47pm

clubcrown wrote: »

9 houses - including mine - were broken into across Limelawn / Charnwood / Castlefield in Clonsilla Sunday night.

The gits got my car, laptop phone and watch. Broke in through the front door and for some reason my alarm didn't trigger. A lesson learned.

Anyway, they are out there, so keep an eye out. Police reckon it was the same guy did all the houses, seeing as he had a nice new car to travel around in :-(

On the off chance the car has been abandoned somewhere in your estate - its a grey/brown VW Passat, 11d 5022.

What time was this at roughly? I heard a few alarms going off on Sunday night in my estate. They rarely go off for no reason.

clubcrown · 16-10-2012 2:50pm

RTT wrote: »

What time was this at roughly? I heard a few Alarms going off on Sunday night in my estate. The rarely go off for no reason.

We were done over between 5.30 and 6.30 AM. Castlefield was apparently earlier on sunday night after 9pm. Charnwood I don't know.

Incidentally, the guy was using a girls mountain bike which he left outside our house once he stole the car; I assume he nicked the bike earlier on. So if you know anyone who had a bike stolen on Sunday let me know, its here at the house.

johnwest288 · 16-10-2012 2:52pm

clubcrown wrote: »

9 houses - including mine - were broken into across Limelawn / Charnwood / Castlefield in Clonsilla Sunday night.

The gits got my car, laptop phone and watch. Broke in through the front door and for some reason my alarm didn't trigger. A lesson learned.

Anyway, they are out there, so keep an eye out. Police reckon it was the same guy did all the houses, seeing as he had a nice new car to travel around in :-(

On the off chance the car has been abandoned somewhere in your estate - its a grey/brown VW Passat, 11d 5022.

Sorry Club to hear that. How did the Grub gain entry through the front door? Smashed window? Lock PIck? Where you and your family home at the time? :mad:

clubcrown · 16-10-2012 2:56pm

johnwest288 wrote: »

Sorry Club to hear that. How did the Grub gain entry through the front door? Smashed window? Lock PIck? Where you and your family home at the time? :mad:

Thanks. We're a bit shaken to say the least.

He pulled out the door handle with a pliers and used some sort of lock pick; the alarm didn't go off, no idea why but the alarm company is going to get a bollocking when they come out here tomorrow.

He broke windows in other houses and smashed a door down in Castlefield, according to a Garda I was talking to.

The one night I forgot to bring my car keys upstairs with me, and this happens. About 2K work of pram and baby seats in it as well. I think we scared him off when the baby woke up upstairs and he heard us moving about. So I suppose it could have been a lot worse

johnwest288 · 16-10-2012 3:05pm

clubcrown wrote: »

Thanks. We're a bit shaken to say the least.

He pulled out the door handle with a pliers and used some sort of lock pick; the alarm didn't go off, no idea why but the alarm company is going to get a bollocking when they come out here tomorrow.

He broke windows in other houses and smashed a door down in Castlefield, according to a Garda I was talking to.

The one night I forgot to bring my car keys upstairs with me, and this happens. About 2K work of pram and baby seats in it as well. I think we scared him off when the baby woke up upstairs and he heard us moving about. So I suppose it could have been a lot worse

Feck sake Ill keep my eyes open for the car anyway. I have an alarm but never put it on (due to laziness and people setting it off at night and day by mistake) Might be time to get it going again!

nudger · 16-10-2012 5:13pm

clubcrown wrote: »

Thanks. We're a bit shaken to say the least.

He pulled out the door handle with a pliers and used some sort of lock pick; the alarm didn't go off, no idea why but the alarm company is going to get a bollocking when they come out here tomorrow.

He broke windows in other houses and smashed a door down in Castlefield, according to a Garda I was talking to.

The one night I forgot to bring my car keys upstairs with me, and this happens. About 2K work of pram and baby seats in it as well. I think we scared him off when the baby woke up upstairs and he heard us moving about. So I suppose it could have been a lot worse

Sorry to hear about your woes clubcrown, is your alarm using a gsm dialer if so they are easily jammed by these knobs.

fletch · 16-10-2012 5:18pm

nudger wrote: »

Sorry to hear about your woes clubcrown, is your alarm using a gsm dialer if so they are easily jammed by these knobs.

Surely the jammer would only stop the gsm dialler functioning....the contact sensors on the door(presuming they aren't shock sensors, although the door opening would still set one off) should still activate the alarm?

KoolKid · 16-10-2012 5:20pm

That is correct. The alarm should still have activated.
You need to get it checked as to why it didn't activate.

nudger · 16-10-2012 5:22pm

fletch wrote: »

Surely the jammer would only stop the gsm dialler functioning....the contact sensors on the door(presuming they aren't shock sensors, although the door opening would still set one off) should still activate the alarm?

True enough.

Kev. · 16-10-2012 9:17pm

Allendale is getting hit hard over the past few weeks,absolute scum out there,I was told 2 lads came in through the front door and told the owner to get upstairs or he'd never see his kids again,took his car and a laptop...
I got cctv installed today,Im taking every precaution I can....

It cost me 1400 but I think its worth it...I have a new door and a proper alarm aswell

nudger · 16-10-2012 10:13pm

Kev. wrote: »

Allendale is getting hit hard over the past few weeks,absolute scum out there,I was told 2 lads came in through the front door and told the owner to get upstairs or he'd never see his kids again,took his car and a laptop...
I got cctv installed today,Im taking every precaution I can....

It cost me 1400 but I think its worth it...I have a new door and a proper alarm aswell

Hey Kev, don't know how far back you have been looking in this thread but did you get anti snap,pick and bump lock installed in your front door, it isn't the door that is the weak link it's the lock.
I also have internal locks that can not be got at.

Kev. · 17-10-2012 8:28am

nudger wrote: »

Hey Kev, don't know how far back you have been looking in this thread but did you get anti snap,pick and bump lock installed in your front door, it isn't the door that is the weak link it's the lock.
I also have internal locks that can not be got at.

Hey Nudger,I went for a whole new install

http://apeer.co.uk/index.php/why_apeer/security/

To be honest the money I spent is long forgotten about and I know its near impossible to get through it.Its well worth it,not to mention the heat actually stays in my hall now haha

Arciphel · 17-10-2012 10:50am

Kev. wrote: »

Hey Nudger,I went for a whole new install

http://apeer.co.uk/index.php/why_apeer/security/

To be honest the money I spent is long forgotten about and I know its near impossible to get through it.Its well worth it,not to mention the heat actually stays in my hall now haha

Kev, can you Pm on the name of the person/company who installed that door for you? Cheers.

fletch · 17-10-2012 11:00am

Arciphel wrote: »

Kev, can you Pm on the name of the person/company who installed that door for you? Cheers.

And me too

Dub XV · 17-10-2012 11:23am

And me please.

Kev. · 17-10-2012 11:50am

No bother guys Ill PM it on to you now along with the price I payed.

I got an Apeer 70,after a load of research I found its probably the best composite out out there.

This is the one I have

http://apeer.co.uk/index.php/range/view/apl

Larbre34 · 17-10-2012 11:59am

I'm sorry to hear about all the burglaries, they can be devastating on families, especially kids. Im not surprised though, I dont think the crime stats are keeping pace with the level actually being experienced

Has anyone had any contact with the Gardaí or local Councillors about this spate? Are there neighbourhood watch districts set up? At the very least there should be local meetings to swop information and advice. I think the lack of community interaction is a big part of the environment in which burglary sprees go unchecked

clubcrown · 17-10-2012 12:48pm

KoolKid wrote: »

That is correct. The alarm should still have activated.
You need to get it checked as to why it didn't activate.

Oh absolutely. Believe me the alarm people are getting a rocket when they arrive to the house.

Now comes the fun bit - convincing the insurance people that I'm not trying to scam them :-(

ronan45 · 17-10-2012 12:51pm

clubcrown wrote: »

Oh absolutely. Believe me the alarm people are getting a rocket when they arrive to the house.

Now comes the fun bit - convincing the insurance people that I'm not trying to scam them :-(

take plenty of digital pictures for evidence before the clean up

nudger · 17-10-2012 2:42pm

Kev. wrote: »

No bother guys Ill PM it on to you now along with the price I payed.

I got an Apeer 70,after a load of research I found its probably the best composite out out there.

This is the one I have

http://apeer.co.uk/index.php/range/view/apl

Nice door Kev, do you know what brand of cylinder lock is in the door, there usually is a brand name on the face of the lock.

Kev. · 17-10-2012 3:54pm

nudger wrote: »

Nice door Kev, do you know what brand of cylinder lock is in the door, there usually is a brand name on the face of the lock.

Im not too sure,ill have a look when Im at home later..

daymobrew · 17-10-2012 4:43pm

A guy, Peter, in Riverwood in Carpenterstown installs similar doors. He also has anti-bump locks. He has a demo van where you can see the doors.

http://www.stoptheburglar.ie/

I might upgrade some of my cylinders.

nudger · 17-10-2012 5:15pm

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=UAP&index=diy&search-type=ss

These are very well priced from £8 and are anti bump, pick, snap and pull.

zef · 17-10-2012 5:21pm

daymobrew wrote: »

A guy, Peter, in Riverwood in Carpenterstown installs similar doors. He also has anti-bump locks. He has a demo van where you can see the doors.

http://www.stoptheburglar.ie/

I might upgrade some of my cylinders.

Hi, this site comes up as 'unavailable'.
I think it's a good idea to buy local as possible.
Besides, I don't have a clue about cylinders etc.

nudger · 17-10-2012 5:36pm

He is charging €90 to supply and fit a cylinder lock.

I can get a uap lock for €12 and you would fit it in 5 minutes, it's very simple.

Not at all trying to slag off the guy, as prices go thats not bad at all.

When we had to replace our door lock after the house being broken into, the guy sent by the insurance co charged €270 to our claim, it was on a bank holiday.

ronan45 · 18-10-2012 10:23am

nudger wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=UAP&index=diy&search-type=ss

These are very well priced from £8 and are anti bump, pick, snap and pull.

Is there a way to tell if your existing lock is anti bump, pick, snap and pull?

Kev. · 18-10-2012 1:14pm

A woman put on the allendale residents page yesterday that her house tried to be robbed between the hours of 2-4,when the police came they told her the best thing to do is get motion sensors,cctv and a baseball bat.

Apparently a blue micra and a silver golf are doing the rounds looking for houses(cant remember the reg years I think 00 and 02) to rob.

I also seen on the page that a some fellows expensive bike got robbed,
he looked everywhere for it,donedeal etc.
He eventually found it on adverts...he contacted the seller looking to set up a meeting etc but the bike had been sold..but the seller told him he would have another one soon,
to cut a long story short he set up a meeting between the seller ,police and himself,the theif got nicked and was found with loads of robbed stuff in his house and the man got his bike back but the original buyer from adverts,who bought the stolen bike was down 400 euro

nudger · 18-10-2012 5:43pm

ronan45 wrote: »

Is there a way to tell if your existing lock is anti bump, pick, snap and pull?

Do you know the make, usually some letters on the face of the lock.
If the kite mark is on the lock it is a good indication of a good quality lock.
If you undo the retaining screw, put in the key and twist it about a 1/4 turn with a bit of a pull on the lock it will come out of the door.
If there is a grove running vertically about 1 cm from each end of the lock, then it is anti snap.

If you mean would a thief know a good lock, a good thief would probably walk away from a kitemark lock.

ISEO on the face of a lock would be very common and maybe time to invest.

nudger · 18-10-2012 5:53pm

Kev. wrote: »

A woman put on the allendale residents page yesterday that her house tried to be robbed between the hours of 2-4,when the police came they told her the best thing to do is get motion sensors,cctv and a baseball bat.

Apparently a blue micra and a silver golf are doing the rounds looking for houses(cant remember the reg years I think 00 and 02) to rob.

I also seen on the page that a some fellows expensive bike got robbed,
he looked everywhere for it,donedeal etc.
He eventually found it on adverts...he contacted the seller looking to set up a meeting etc but the bike had been sold..but the seller told him he would have another one soon,
to cut a long story short he set up a meeting between the seller ,police and himself,the theif got nicked and was found with loads of robbed stuff in his house and the man got his bike back but the original buyer from adverts,who bought the stolen bike was down 400 euro

Couple of pages back Vibe666 mentioned a 00 silver golf involved in taking a cat, could be the same one.

saranac1 · 18-10-2012 6:36pm

Kev. wrote: »

A woman put on the allendale residents page yesterday that her house tried to be robbed between the hours of 2-4,when the police came they told her the best thing to do is get motion sensors,cctv and a baseball bat.

Apparently a blue micra and a silver golf are doing the rounds looking for houses(cant remember the reg years I think 00 and 02) to rob.

I also seen on the page that a some fellows expensive bike got robbed,
he looked everywhere for it,donedeal etc.
He eventually found it on adverts...he contacted the seller looking to set up a meeting etc but the bike had been sold..but the seller told him he would have another one soon,
to cut a long story short he set up a meeting between the seller ,police and himself,the theif got nicked and was found with loads of robbed stuff in his house and the man got his bike back but the original buyer from adverts,who bought the stolen bike was down 400 euro

Check out Meath crime prevention Facebook page
Very good info on there and a few regs up also which might be the same as above.

nudger · 18-10-2012 9:50pm

saranac1 wrote: »

Check out Meath crime prevention Facebook page
Very good info on there and a few regs up also which might be the same as above.

You could be onto something there, good find.

Same 2 cars with partial numbers.

nudger · 19-10-2012 5:35pm

Kev. wrote: »

A woman put on the allendale residents page yesterday that her house tried to be robbed between the hours of 2-4,when the police came they told her the best thing to do is get motion sensors,cctv and a baseball bat.

Apparently a blue micra and a silver golf are doing the rounds looking for houses(cant remember the reg years I think 00 and 02) to rob.

I also seen on the page that a some fellows expensive bike got robbed,
he looked everywhere for it,donedeal etc.
He eventually found it on adverts...he contacted the seller looking to set up a meeting etc but the bike had been sold..but the seller told him he would have another one soon,
to cut a long story short he set up a meeting between the seller ,police and himself,the theif got nicked and was found with loads of robbed stuff in his house and the man got his bike back but the original buyer from adverts,who bought the stolen bike was down 400 euro

Kev,
Check out the Meath crime prevention facebook page, 3 or 4 posts down, same cars with partial regs.

Did you check the lock make on your door?

Kev. · 20-10-2012 9:48am

nudger wrote: »

Kev,
Check out the Meath crime prevention facebook page, 3 or 4 posts down, same cars with partial regs.

Did you check the lock make on your door?

Hey Nudger,Im not on facebook but Ill get the wife to check it for me,

I had a look at the lock and theres an M with a lock integrated into it.

Just to add after getting the cctv installed I feel 10 times more safer,Its great knowing that if anybody is in my garden or snooping around my car I can see them,It more than likely wont stop them but its a really great system and to be honest if anybody was on my property and was up to something Id be kicking myself if I didnt have it...

Now I have:
A proper alarm that calls me if it gets set off,I can listen in to the house and even shout into the speaker if needed,
it works of fobs so I can knock it on from my car.It has a door chime on it,and can be fitted with smoke alarms,carbon monoxide detecters,pet safe etc..

A solid composite front door, Im positive its practically impossible to get through it.

A top CCTV system,came with four 650 LTV cameras,records for 3 months,remote viewing from phone and PC, pricey enough but well worth it

Motion detection lights and new locks on the back door , and also half bolt locks on all the doors downstairs (kitchen sitting and toilet)for quick locking on the way up to bed.

Some people are probably reading this and thinking Im paranoid but after my brother got his front door kicked in at 3 in the morning and his brand new car taken,it really hit home.The money I spent is gone now and forgotten about and Im not taking any chances,Im trying to prevent anything like that happening to me.

nudger · 20-10-2012 10:34am

Looks like your well sorted, if the plop hits the fan I'm coming to your's.:pac:

Larbre34 · 20-10-2012 3:33pm

Now the gougers think you have something worth protecting (other than your family of course)

Leave the front door swinging, itll confuse the sh1t outta them

Gabriele · 23-10-2012 9:25am

I am from hartstown and they have tried to break in my house last week, unfortunately we were away on holiday for the entire week, so we just realized yesterday what happened.
They broke the back window main lock, but they couldn't get in because we had just installed 2 extra security lock in that windows, so even if the main one was off, the 2 little ones prevented them from entering the house.
We have reported everything to the garda, and I have started to go house by house to allert the neighbours on the street.
Honestly i am really glad to have installed this extra locks around the house, a very intelligent investment!

brightkane · 23-10-2012 9:49am

We thankfully have a great relationship with our neighbours. We have keys of their house and they have keys of ours, if alarm gos off I call then and they do the same , if it needs to be reset we can both pop in and check all is ok and reset it. When we are away they take in post , change curtains and lights and move the cars around. Nothing's fool proof but it is added peace of mind

Gaspode · 23-10-2012 11:47am

We've only a few houses on our road and we do the same. Gives great peace of mind especially when on holidays.

horse7 · 23-10-2012 5:55pm

What are your windows made from, uPVC ETC and can you put up a photo of the extra locks and where to buy them.

nudger · 23-10-2012 6:33pm

horse7 wrote: »

What are your windows made from, uPVC ETC and can you put up a photo of the extra locks and where to buy them.

I got ERA window locks in woodies, €8-€10.
Have one on all of the downstairs windows, also have a locking one on the back door and put 2 normal ones on the front door incase a determined burglar managed to pick the cylinder door lock.
They come with small screws which I replaced with much thicker ones so had to drill pilot holes in the upvc frames.

horse7 · 23-10-2012 8:04pm

Is it one of these http://www.easylocks.co.uk/era-locks-m-110.html

nudger · 23-10-2012 11:24pm

horse7 wrote: »

Is it one of these http://www.easylocks.co.uk/era-locks-m-110.html

Page 4, 4th down on the left, ERA 830 snap lock.
Very handy, will twist 360.

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