Washington Commanders thread

jack presley · 02-04-2014 5:53pm

heyjude wrote: »

For the record, in DeSean Jackson's 6 year NFL career

1. He has only finished a complete season twice in his career.

2. He has only 3 seasons with 1,000yrds receiving.

3. Has never had Double Digit TDs in a season (10+ TD)

4. Has ZERO punt returns for a T.D. in the last 3yrs.

5. Zero Kick Returns for a T.D. in 5yrs.

So are you only annoyed that he used the Raiders for leverage (quite common in every sport) or are you a bit bitter that he didn't end up there?

As for the cap issue, I'd imagine any quote you read about a team's available cap space takes into consideration the salaries they will have to pay to new draft picks. Rookie wages are for the most part pre-determined these days.

Realt Dearg Sec · 02-04-2014 6:16pm

heyjude wrote: »

After all the fuss about DeSean Jackson(based almost exclusively on his play last season) I'm hoping that it doesn't work out in Washington. As a Raiders fan, I don't have a problem with a player not wanting to come to Oakland if thats' how he feels, but the way Jackson publicly stated his interest in joining the Raider in advance, before even visiting Oakland to see what they were offering rubs me up the wrong way, strikes me as using the Raiders interest to leverage a better deal out of Washington. I mean the Raiders had a better record last year and have done more to improve themselves in free agency, so you can't even argue that the Redskins are that much better a team.

I also don't see how the Redskins could afford his $8m a year salary as they were only $6m under the salary cap with draft picks still to sign, so the contract must be heavily backloaded.

For the record, in DeSean Jackson's 6 year NFL career

1. He has only finished a complete season twice in his career.

2. He has only 3 seasons with 1,000yrds receiving.

3. Has never had Double Digit TDs in a season (10+ TD)

4. Has ZERO punt returns for a T.D. in the last 3yrs.

5. Zero Kick Returns for a T.D. in 5yrs.

Leaving aside any off field issues, do those stats equate to an $8m a year receiver ?

If he's so **** then why do you care?

jack presley · 02-04-2014 6:22pm

3 years, $24m with $16m guaranteed.

heyjude · 02-04-2014 7:30pm

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

If he's so **** then why do you care?

In the spirit of your remark, it called being a true supporter.

If a player doesn't want to join your team,even if he grew up supporting them, then so be it, but to go out on social media talking up his interest in that team when it seems he never had any intention of going there, well to put it politely, it shows a lack of class. If he had either said from day one, I only wanna be a Redskin or if he'd visited the Raiders(having expressed his interest in them) and then said he liked the Redskins package more, then you'd say it was disappointing but you did your best, he did neither.

It doesn't change anything I've said, but the signing seems primarily motivated by a need to get revenge against the Eagles, within the NFC East.

jack presley · 02-04-2014 7:43pm

heyjude wrote: »

In the spirit of your remark, it called being a true supporter.

If a player doesn't want to join your team,even if he grew up supporting them, then so be it, but to go out on social media talking up his interest in that team when it seems he never had any intention of going there, well to put it politely, it shows a lack of class. If he had either said from day one, I only wanna be a Redskin or if he'd visited the Raiders(having expressed his interest in them) and then said he liked the Redskins package more, then you'd say it was disappointing but you did your best, he did neither.

It doesn't change anything I've said, but the signing seems primarily motivated by a need to get revenge against the Eagles, within the NFC East.

If you think Jackson is the first player ever to use one team to get a better deal from another, then you're quite naive. It's probably on page 1 on the football agent bible.

Do you honestly expect him to come out and say "I only wanna be a Redskin"? If he did, Dan Synder would quietly put the cheque book back in his pocket and knock a few quid off his offer price.

davyjose · 02-04-2014 8:16pm

heyjude wrote: »

In the spirit of your remark, it called being a true supporter.

If a player doesn't want to join your team,even if he grew up supporting them, then so be it, but to go out on social media talking up his interest in that team when it seems he never had any intention of going there, well to put it politely, it shows a lack of class. If he had either said from day one, I only wanna be a Redskin or if he'd visited the Raiders(having expressed his interest in them) and then said he liked the Redskins package more, then you'd say it was disappointing but you did your best, he did neither.

It doesn't change anything I've said, but the signing seems primarily motivated by a need to get revenge against the Eagles, within the NFC East.

Ah come on now. He's not a child. I wouldn't expect any pro athlete to have an allegiance to a team he doesn't play for. He said a few nice things about the Raiders out of a fondness maybe, but he'd have been mad to go to Oakland instead of Washington IMO.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 02-04-2014 9:19pm

Or Jackson looked at the relative Qb's of both teams, Schaub or RGIII .. hmm I know who i'd rather play with.

davyjose · 02-04-2014 10:00pm

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Or Jackson looked at the relative Qb's of both teams, Schaub or RGIII .. hmm I know who i'd rather play with.

Schaub, prior to last season, was a good QB. Kubiak is on the hook for a lot of his issues last season too. I just feel Oakland is a poisoned chalice right now.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 02-04-2014 10:05pm

davyjose wrote: »

Schaub, prior to last season, was a good QB. Kubiak is on the hook for a lot of his issues last season too. I just feel Oakland is a poisoned chalice right now.

Schaub was awful last season. He's not as bad as last year but he's not as good as RGIII in my opinion.

Some big moves across the league, Rb's going left right and center.MJD to the raiders is interesting.

heyjude · 02-04-2014 10:40pm

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

Schaub was awful last season. He's not as bad as last year but he's not as good as RGIII in my opinion.

Some big moves across the league, Rb's going left right and center.MJD to the raiders is interesting.

How long will RGIII last though ?

Syferus · 03-04-2014 2:08am

heyjude wrote: »

How long will RGIII last though ?

More than three years.

jack presley · 03-04-2014 7:03pm

Redskins signed Colt McCoy today. I presume that means the end of the RGI era in Washington?

shamrock55 · 03-04-2014 7:08pm

Ill miss sexy rexy (not):rolleyes:

Raphael · 03-04-2014 7:09pm

Maybe they'll take him back once they trade Captain Kirk away, if they still want two backups. I'm not sure I could live in a world without Rex Grossman.

heyjude · 03-04-2014 9:34pm

Syferus wrote: »

More than three years.

RGIII didn't last all of last season, so if he manages to remain injury free for more than the next three years that would be amazing

davyjose · 04-04-2014 9:39am

heyjude wrote: »

RGIII didn't last all of last season, so if he manages to remain injury free for more than the next three years that would be amazing

Or the season before.

Syferus · 04-04-2014 10:31am

heyjude wrote: »

RGIII didn't last all of last season, so if he manages to remain injury free for more than the next three years that would be amazing

RG3 wasn't injured last season.

davyjose · 05-04-2014 7:30pm

Syferus wrote: »

RG3 wasn't injured last season.

In fairness, he never actually said that: he said he didn't last all season. Which is true.

Syferus · 06-04-2014 1:48am

davyjose wrote: »

In fairness, he never actually said that: he said he didn't last all season. Which is true.

I don't think you can put 'Mike Shanahan is a ****ing mad-man' down as a durability issue with RG3.

davyjose · 06-04-2014 6:35am

Syferus wrote: »

I don't think you can put 'Mike Shanahan is a ****ing mad-man' down as a durability issue with RG3.

No, but maybe the knee injury that clearly slowed him down last season. If you're telling me RG3 was 100% going into last season, I have to disagree.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 07-04-2014 12:04pm

davyjose wrote: »

No, but maybe the knee injury that clearly slowed him down last season. If you're telling me RG3 was 100% going into last season, I have to disagree.

What has that got to do with RGIII going forward? He wasnt injured last year and lasted the entire year before being benched by the head coach. He will clearly be 100% coming into this year having had a longer rest period. RGIII will be leading the Redskins for a long time to come and he'll have Jackson there to put up monstrous numbers next season.

All in all very happy with the addition of Jackson, Philly's loss is our gain in the talent department. A tandem of Garcon and Jackson is probably the best duo in the league and having Morris in the backfield .. yes please.

jack presley · 09-04-2014 11:05pm

Week 1: vs. New England (TBA)
Mon 18 Aug: vs. Cleveland (8pm)
Week 3: @ Baltimore (TBA)
Thu 28 Aug: @ Tampa Bay (TNA)

Morrison J · 14-04-2014 4:20pm

NFL Experts talk NFC East

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000340515/article/roster-reset-nfc-east

Wouldn't be that high on the Giants at all personally. I think we've good reason to be excited a bit again.

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman · 15-04-2014 9:11am

Morrison J wrote: »

NFL Experts talk NFC East

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000340515/article/roster-reset-nfc-east

Wouldn't be that high on the Giants at all personally. I think we've good reason to be excited a bit again.

Alot of fluff articles being pumped out right now.

19-04-2014 12:41pm

Only just come to terms with the fact Jackson has gone to another NFC east team congrats to ye he's going to do wonders for yere run game

Morrison J · 08-05-2014 4:52pm

Bit of a sickener having no 1st round pick.

One of my ideal situations with a bit of luck is:

2nd round: Morgan Moses OT
3rd round: Chris Borland ILB
4th Round: Ed Reynolds FS

Absolutely essential we improve the offensive line so if Moses was to fall to us at 34 I'd be all over it personally. Really like Chris Borland as a Fletcher replacement also.

I'm all for trading Cousins if it comes to it also. So much depth in this draft class.

jack presley · 08-05-2014 10:21pm

To be honest, because of them not having a first round pick, I haven't been following the draft build up this year (not that I'd be an in depth follower anyway) so I haven't got a clue about who they should be going after. i know the positional needs but I wouldn't know where to start with who they should draft

jack presley · 01-08-2014 7:06pm

http://store.redskins.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=10431&catID=767

Who the hell would want to buy this?

01-08-2014 7:52pm

jack presley wrote: »

http://store.redskins.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=10431&catID=767

Who the hell would want to buy this?

Racist pats fans?

jack presley · 15-08-2014 3:53pm

An episode of A Football Life on NFL Network this season is to be about Sean Taylor. Apparently due to broadcast on 26 September. Looking forward to seeing that.

Morrison J · 15-08-2014 11:40pm

jack presley wrote: »

An episode of A Football Life on NFL Network this season is to be about Sean Taylor. Apparently due to broadcast on 26 September. Looking forward to seeing that.

Really looking forward to that. Could prove a tough watch at times I think.

jack presley · 19-08-2014 8:54pm

Having watched RGIII last night, I think the 'how long before he gets killed' question is probably valid again this season.

shamrock55 · 19-08-2014 10:30pm

How did that game go, i didnt see it, any stand out performances?

jack presley · 20-08-2014 2:39pm

Nothing really to get excited about. Very sloppy game, even when the first teams were in. Too many penalties, 4 turnovers etc. Griffin still looking like he has a long way to go before becoming the QB we want him to be and I have my doubts as to whether he ever will.

jack presley · 24-08-2014 6:55pm

jack presley wrote: »

Nothing really to get excited about. Very sloppy game, even when the first teams were in. Too many penalties, 4 turnovers etc. Griffin still looking like he has a long way to go before becoming the QB we want him to be and I have my doubts as to whether he ever will.

Last nights's game didn't fill me with too much confidence for Houston. Griffin was awful. It's kind of a lose-lose situation. He isn't good enough to be a pocket passer and he'll be killed if he starts running.

Joe Theisman said last night that Cousins has outplayed him and is the better option but that's never gonna happen and Cousins is usually in against scrubs so it's not comparing like with like.

shamrock55 · 24-08-2014 9:48pm

Griffin is obviously still suffering with his knee then, because i thought running with ball in hand is his main strength, i agree with the pocket passing, its like he doesnt have speed of thought to be able for that

jack presley · 24-08-2014 9:59pm

shamrock55 wrote: »

Griffin is obviously still suffering with his knee then, because i thought running with ball in hand is his main strength, i agree with the pocket passing, its like he doesnt have speed of thought to be able for that

I think physically he's fine but it's that they don't want him to run or aren't letting him run. He just looks lost in the pocket. 2 weeks left. I can't see him being fixed before then.

Morrison J · 06-09-2014 9:41pm

Don't think I've been this excited for our opening game in a long time.

Absolutely crucial RG3 gets into a rhythm early on. Give him some simple screen passes, short slants etc and hope his confidence builds.

Right now I have no idea how our season will pan out but reckon by the end of the 1st quarter I'll have a good idea. So many question marks that need answering.

Can't wait.

jack presley · 06-09-2014 10:08pm

Excited but also very apprehensive about the start of the season.

Surely RGIII can't be as bad as he was in pre-season? God help us if he is. 3-13 here we come again!

Morrison J · 06-09-2014 10:38pm

Baccari Rambo at safety also scares me although recent reports have said he's been improving.

We really do live and die by RG3 though. I've just got a feeling we'll see a different RG3 tomorrow night. One that'll make plays. He just has to trust his receivers more and let that ball go.

Will be interesting to see how much time Hatcher gets on the field and if Ryan Grant has beaten Santana Moss out to the #4 WR position.

Its going to be one of those low scoring close games I think. Hopefully we come out the right side of it.

shamrock55 · 07-09-2014 7:04pm

And we're off:D
edit: extra point is blocked

Morrison J · 07-09-2014 7:10pm

And that right there is why I said Bacarri Rambo scares me. Angles all off.

shamrock55 · 07-09-2014 7:17pm

Fcuking suicidal stuff going on here:mad:

jack presley · 07-09-2014 7:17pm

So same story with special teams then

jack presley · 07-09-2014 8:45pm

Apart from the 2 red zone fumbles, the blocked punt and blocked extra point, it hasn't been too bad.

I joke of course, it's going to be a long season.

jack presley · 07-09-2014 9:00pm

The one positive is that we won't have to see JJ Watt again. Man, that guy is unbelievable.

Raphael · 07-09-2014 9:29pm

That was better than last year, right? I mean, it wasn't good or anything... but at least parts of the offence actually looked like they were playing football at times.

;_;

jack presley · 07-09-2014 9:56pm

Raphael wrote: »

That was better than last year, right? I mean, it wasn't good or anything... but at least parts of the offence actually looked like they were playing football at times.

;_;

It was slightly better than the pre season anyway. Griffin wasn't good but he wasn't awful either. Defence was alright.

I'm still not optimistic about the rest of the season but I might step back from the ledge for a bit, at least until after the Jaguars game.

Stev_o · 07-09-2014 10:31pm

Can't expect much when your running for you life...

That O-Line is rubbish bar Williams.

Morrison J · 14-09-2014 12:30pm

I thought Kory Lich had a good game..

A must win game in week 2. Not ideal but thats the reality of the situation.

We have to run the ball 20 times minumim imo.

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