Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Thats true ,midelton sars is a new rivarly.Id love to c sars beaten sunday,for a variety of reasons.


And i want to c the likes of mahony,nagle,Ryan again and walsh for kanturk in terms what they may offer cork and also cormac walsh,maybee could be corks midfield answer.For a man back from injury,hes flying.And lehane in the form he is should be great to watch.


The u21 game should be good ,but those that go to pairc ,kilbrin and castlewmatr should be good battle.

Egan,and two lawtons should be good to c,corks view point.Lawtons in particular, egan we know what he can do.


Your right bout killarney last year.

The one main difference though is where Cork done everything bar Give Hurley quick ball, haven will at every possible opporunitinty give him the ball.They will also start collins who is a real talent and wont make a fool of Cahalane,like Cork did,sub him at h time.

Castlehaven have men on the sideline that you would expect have learned from last year and have plan to stop cooper,unlike us last year where we hadnt a clue.


Fact cahalane postponed hes op til after sun,means their well up it.I really do hope cahalane doesnt suffer any ill effects over that.Hes injury sounds bad .


Whatever bt sunday, surely god it was unwise man playing hurling game barrs u21 team monday.

Talk few wks back he had have it as soon as.


Crokes are huge favourites,and home advanatge deserve to be,but i think this 1/ten lark way way overpiced.


Crokes have gooch,fionn fitzgerald,buckley,but pat spillane said none of the rest were standout intercounty.I seldom agree with him,but i think he raised valid points.


Its nt like haven playing a kerry team,backboned with all ireland medal winners.


They may have a lot good club men,bt certainly not unbeatable.


If sean dineen can win hes share ball id give haven a chance.


To make a club team such overwhelming fav,is like doing same with u21 team etc ,you dnt know how the rest team will react ,espiceally if top men,gooch is held,when their outside their comfort zone.

Theirs huge pressure on them.Flangan training them is a bonus to them i agree,but haven are no fools either.


Haven have key men also.Collins,cahalane,hurley are the future for Cork.


Castlehaven played super football against Nemo,bt as proven can play dogged defensive ,when they need to.

And they would have learned from last year.


Hurley,cahalane,collins well used beating kerry teams down in kerry.


I remember after ucc beat haven ,few years back,played monaleen limerick in coloughduv.Noboddy gave limerick lads a hope.

They ran ucc to the wire and cd beaten them,and unlike the Haven didnt have any real star players.


Youd have to say Crokes but i dnt think its foregone concusion and give Haven a chance.


Their one proud village down their,and need no motivation when their complete underdogs,their own even right them off on sunday.


A team with nothing to loose and everything to play for is always a dangerous team,and people should remember haven are no ordinary team,and have a future all star,a big game player in Hurley.
In every big game for haven,cork at u21 and senior he has at worst done well,at best been magical.

If they beat crokes,it be sweet ,down in kerry, it would be awful not to be their.


Thankfully i dont have to decide til sunday which to go to.

The likes of Daithi Casey will be on the Kerry team next season I reckon. Think he's a class act at centre forward to be fair.

Crokes have Gooch, Leary and Casey in the forwards, Buckley, Brosnan,Fitzgerald further back.

1/10 is about the right price really

Geralinde o Flynn nominated player of the year.Fully deserved.

Canty was the Heartbeat of Cork teams for years,the same presence paul o connell to Munster.


He made everything tick in the team.Crippled by injuries,he was a superb footballer, could play him anywhere in the central zones from 2 to 9.
Had real intelligence and could read a game.Corks winning of 2010 was when he replaced kissane.



A wonderful servant.Sad in one way,but delighted that he was brave enough to go on hes terms.He couldnt survive in the new game with pace and tempo.

The right call.Next up Alan O Connor.

Id keep Donnacha,he had never had pace,but hes composure and the ability up front that he would be a good sub.


Cuthbherts job made easier ,he doesnt have to drop,noelie,kissane,or canty.


Its exciting time next year.loughrey will be the new leader next year at 6, met the guy in may, talking to him,you can smell hes drive.

Cahalane , he once recovers from the hip op,will be at 5.To recover he must first get op done.Whatever happens tommorrow,even if win or draw,cahalane must get op done as soon as.


One poisition up grabs,two clancys, o driscoll , jamie wall, rory o sullivan,fintan gould ,kevin crowley (young bt good enough) should be auditoned come the spring.


Its not as bad as people thing.Loughrey ,we extremely lucky to have.

Exciting times, but with so much valuable expierence Gone, it comes back to my main worry,an inexpierenced management team.

We now have a young team in some positions must learn their trade.It won't be helped by a management team in the same boat.The management if they fail,will hinder the development of our next crop of talents.

Time for shieldsy, cadogan,walsh,sheehan to become leaders on and of the field.


Sheehan can stick to football,be a huge help to him and county.

Walsh if done right as he is self employed,less injury time,would get away with it for the year.

Anyone else needs to be told NO.

Exciting,new players on board ,but it a huge concern going forward,such inexpierence on the sideline.

Thanks for the Meomries Gharaham.A legend.

slingerz wrote: »

Big gap in the defensive side of things now. Will be interesting to see who cuthbert brings in to the fold

The defensive side is already better before a ball has been kicked.


Canty and Kissane simply not good to start next year,more so the blanket style is a dying breed..Loughrey and Cahalane ,nt the same expierence or leadership yet ,but much better options than those.


Canty ,i agree ,will be hard to replace when he was at hes best.Kissane ,time will prove,not that hard to replace.Much better players than kissane,bt never got a chance.Kissane was Good,brave,commited, but very poor at the basic skills,and too loose a defender.
Soloed with the ball two high,only knew one way to kick a ball,give it plenty of air.
What he had was huge bravery,courage,heart ,drive and a savage engine.

O leary wouldnt be able to start either,however out of the other two,the better option.

Newtown Na piarsaigh ,called of second wk in a row in Mallow.What an absoulte joke.


Every other match going ahead as planned today.The ptich is fine.
If it was weather related ,but no other matches postponed.

Mallow must be afraid ptich be cut up.Fair enough,its a fine ptich ,but jesus ,weather is not going get much better.Mallow is one of the few ptiches around that could cope with a game today.

IF thats the case its a joke.As wed,theres a schools game their,wed nght kanturk play glanmire football,night after hurling game their.


Surely 3 games in two days is not gd for it

And what if weather is same next wk.


If thats the case dnt give them the game.Put back til thur eveining.
Move it to another ptich.

Yet courcey game going ahead,and they got just much rain down their.

Tommy Sugrue ,our great Neighbour.Cost us the drawn game.

Meath fully deserved the replay.

That the saddest thing bt canty,one all ireland to show for.

Then again Ciaran sullivan or corkery joe kavanagh has none .

A lot of talk today seems to be Cork are in trouble now canty,noelie and kissane are gone,and calls are shields needs to be moved out to centre back.I thought the news would welcomed ,a sea of change.
The time was right to go.



Taking shields out of full back line is just stupidity in the highest order,and clearly is, a thought process,lacking the Basic ingredient ,Logic or in lay man terms "Common Sense"


Years ago i would have favoured it,in fact,truth be told i would have adovcated that thought.


Why ,then and not now?cause back then we had a full back in canty,or kavanagh ,with lynch,carey to a degree ,in the corners with a super player in eoin cotter,with jamie sul,cadogan later on, also in that line.We had options at corner back and full we dont have the same depth now.Now , We have only 3 proven men,possibly four if cotter regains form,for that line.

And we needed someone better than kissane at half back a few years ago,when miskella retired.


Now though this is a non runner.First of all shieldsy is now a top class full back,yes troubled by murphy ,but still a great player and fully versatile and interchangable anywhere in the back three.At present without any tinkering it is corks strongest line,as Halloran or Hanahrahn are top goalies.


Quirke will prob retire ,but if want keep him expierence and help lads,as a goalkeeper age not a problem.

On the late late last week,he looked in good shape.Not carrying anything extra weight.If he was it doesnt show.


Too much time went in to making shields a top full back..He was always a half back at underage, but credit counihan(one of the few posistional swtiches he got right),preserved with him their.


To move him to cb,at 27 is now the wrong time and asking him change hes way of play and a complete change of mindset.For a guy thats engrained in passing slowly from the back,he now has to move the ball at pace and tempo.Old habits die hard.

We can get away with that at full back,in fact thats what you want ,work it out patiently ,compusure ,but once your Cb gets it,move it at pace and purpose.Dont D**k about with it waiting for somethimg to happen up front like Cork the last 3 years at least ,Copy Dublin,Make it Happen.


Also Cork with shields,cadogan(fit),and jamie sul or cotter , the full back line is the best around.




Eoin cotter at corner back should come back in to the fray.Work commitents wont be a problem,nw he knows he wil get game time,now with mccarthy main coach.Its worth the sacfrice.


You need four players to cover injuries,etc,strength in depth,that aera.


You take shields out who is to come in?

Ray carey ,panel member ,but like colm o rourke said in 2010, and criticsed for it ,is suspect.Had one flawless game down pairc against kerry, since then too many games littered with flaws.


Tom clancy done okay 25 min against kerry but that could be more the kingdom reducing the ball flow in,to the aera and the fact it was slow ball in that period of the game.

Too much a footballer ,like cahalane,conor dormoran ,brian o driscoll who have all been exposed as stop gaps cornerbacks at u 21 level.Too much attacking instinct for the corner.


Alan cronin ,touted as an option ,bt no great this year at all at u21 or club by hes own standards.


So yes we have problem,in we nd a half back line.


Bv we have options.We have nothing the same depth corner back wise.


But why in the name of sweet jesus would we want to create a problem that does nt exist and make extra work when we put a void in at full back.Leave as is.That is strong enough and fine,and good for at least five years,injury free.


And putting shields at cb,is same risk as new player that the half back line needs time to bed in , and shields may nt work ,and also is short term answer.

The pace of the game,tempo ,at shields age ,most you get 3 years,as once 30 hits,you loose a yard of raw pace(not fitness)now,im n bout accleration,the ability to be like a ferrari,go o to 100 in the blink of an eyelid.

Build a half back line around ,cahalane(injury free),loughrey ,two clancys or rory sullivan(cruciate free please God),Kevin Crowley,Dorman in time.

We have a golden of riches at half back, we don't need to complicate this by having too many possibites for one aera,and missing out on the future ,the hardest part is getting the balance inch perfect, and allowing it the time to blend,unify,be cohesive as 3 and not as individuls, have time to appreciate,learn each others game,have the time to truly bloosom,in to a beautfiul piece of work, but one that equally, is not just soft on the eye ,but Actually selves a purpose and unlike with Shields their,The End justifies the means.


At half back Youth is the way to go.Loughrey already has years of expierence in Ulster ,he has all the leaderships skills ,he just need time to do that at CB.

This guy isnt a journey man down antrim for money.He moved down for hes girlfriend teaches in Mallow,

The guy is extremely passionate about Gaa ,and play any game ,no matter what colour jersey is ,will always play heart,Desire and Hunger and Passion.

Loughrey is faster in raw pace than shields.Fastest man on the Cork Panel,faster than Kerrigan.Watch hes running style,effortless ,like a Swan gliding across lake,never out of breadth,just glad to be in full flow,sun on the back or rain in the eyes,doesnt matter ,just happy to be out their in hes zone,leading from the front.The only option for Cb.


A must for CB.

Cahalane at five,learning the trade ,will be cb in time.

Only poisiton to fill is 7.And give the unit time.Wont click straight away, but when it does Cork have a Fortress with A Future.

Managements role is get to final player,piece of jigsaw ,to fit and get a system suits them and them play with confidence.Talent is their.

If shields is moved out ,the management are playing catch up and not a good sign ,starting of.
We have enough problems year the ahead,we dnt nd create another one.


Find a partner for walsh, keep forwards injury and dual code free,find the correct balance in that six,and devise a game plan that suits them ,cork will be a serious team.

Management,ultimately is the key.

On a separte note CCB lodge,planning permisson friday to cork city council for redevelopment pairc.


They are looking for goverment investment now.Goverment are meant to be in favour,and will consider.
They met with the Tanaiste yesterday.


Unbelievable country is on its feet,yet money for a redeveloped stadium cork doesnt nd,in Such a large scale is being suggested.

DD Mikasa wrote: »

Would like to see Fintan Goold in the half back line. It's like Cork have been struggling for years to find a starting place for him. He clearly isnt an inter county midfielder or centre forward. He can do a job at wing forward but the half back line would suit his attributes best, and he played 6 for Macroom this year.

Him, Loughrey, Clancy, Cahalane. Not a bad line there. Rory O'Sullivan maybe if he stayed injury free

Full back line should be ok and forwards will be stronger next year with O'Neill back and Hurley and O'Rourke a year older. Just need to find a midfielder or too.

Id agree with that.
that was my thought last year and this year,that half back was the way to go for him.Against donegal he played their bt was a horrendous call,as thrown in their without any league game at all.


He would be worth a shot,but im kinda against it now,for he was poor against clyda,and i just feel years played as a forward destroyed hes confidence and its hard to reinvent himself now.He was poor 3 wks ago.He should made hes mark.

David is a super talent,cruciate holds up.

A cb must have the mindset and confidence.Maybee a wing back if cahalane doesnt recover but id rather a younger lad tried their.


Midfield, has Ian maguire,Vaughan,Laoire , rory Deane or Sullivan(if nt at midfield)to choose from,or one of the driscoll boys.

Vaughan looks a savage prospect.Would started u21 only for illness.

Sean dinneen would be a option but cant commit due to farming.


Up front is fine.Hodnett should with David gould get a run.If clollins nailed down 11 or kelly ,sheehan could do a midfield role.


Id prefer him at h forward first and foremost.

Castematyr beaten poin grenagh nw in final.


They threw it away up by 3.Kilbrin ,egan was unreal.castlewatyr must be sick,total control this.


Arrived late to the kanturk game,but totally dominant .Missed goal but kanturk too much power.

Mcloughlin and walsh are different class,what you wd expect.Walsh lording the puckouts ,should have two goals awful shooting but that cn be worked on.

A must for cork next year.Mcloughlin sweeping everything up half back,midfield.


Sheehan Is poor.This should end rubbish he play cork.Like i said,overated as hurler.John mcloughin who aint anything special has sheehan well and truly in hes pocket.

H time 1-12 to 7

On the way to pairc,had to listen to 103 fr start game.Paudie and Kenneally ,very ,hard if your trying to get a flow of the game.

If paudie talked bt the actual game rather than everything else he wd be fine.Talks bt stuff,nothing do with the game at times.


Kenneally tactiful insight is something else ,to be fair.


Down by 8, and theres nt much in the scoring ,its 50-50 he says.
This guy is future senior hurling manager.He is being groomed for it down the line.

Superb kanturk.Well deserved.
Great goal by hallisey though.Out shone sheehan.


Theirs a big difference between winning a big ball than a sliothar.Sheehan is a magical footballer nt a hurler.

Today proved that.People saying hes cork hurler got the answer today.

Walsh superb.Best hurler with Lorchan by a country mile today.What a man to pluck a ball.Raw around the edges but given time ,a real force.Nt much hurling under hes belt ,and still a great display.

Either for man of the match, but Walsh for a great goal ,mgt edge it.

Delighted,he like lorchan wit cit lost senior final and last year got their medal at last.

Delighted for kanturk.


Haven only 3 down in kerry .

Horse84 wrote: »

I wouldn't be judging Sheehan on one match where Eire og were constantly on the back foot. Like Walsh, he's had little enough hurling under his belt and Aidan had some wayward shooting too, which is true can be worked on but same goes for Sheehan.
If he wants to try out for the hurlers, I'd welcome him with open arms, we can't afford to be that picky. Time will tell if he's good enough.

I cn c why u want sheehan.

But the fundamental diff today with walsh and sheehan,sheehan wn hardly any ball.

If you want to play for cork you bring yourself in to the game.Walsh has been flying all year,sheehan had one game two goals bt media were all over him like a rash.


He never excelled as a minor,u21 was injured.Its ten steps backward ,bringing in sheehan,its Panic ,pure panic that cork hurling nd him.We need ball winners yes bt walsh,harnedy cronin are plenty next year,lehane is winning hes own also,and horgan is a starter.


So u bring in sheehan ,we dnt nd another ball winner ,u must start him.


One place left?u start sheehan ,who u drop ?moylan,farell,coughlan,paudie , and then u alan cadogan in the fray.

Their all better pure hurlers than sheehan.


Cork have what we nd with walsh.The footballers will suffer with two dual players.sheehan is corks mip next year .He cant get injured.He will if does both with hes awful injury record.

Walsh self employed has time to give hurling.


Whatever result lehane man match 2-5 al but one teams scores.


What a match.The man is breathtaking ,unmarkable.Nagle nds to go on cussen ,as their making a hero out of him.

O mahony like i said isnt a full back.

God help mallow,u21 sat, they have no one stop lehane in this form.


Midelton have a great chance.great game.

Superb superb midelon champsions.


Lehane beat sars on hes own.f**king delighted for midelton and lehane.

Great for cork hurling,great day overall.


Breathtaking lehane


Better chance club sars and newtown record in tact.

Today end talk,cussen cork or any other bar sul and kearney.


Nagle dne well with burke n cussen in 2nd half.


We also learned that ,mahony is top corner back,like burke,nt a full back.


Bud not like i said cork standard.


Haughney suprised me ,got stuck in,dirty ball.Nd more of it.


Ryan outplayed by quigley,say it all.

Luke still way more to give but when needf two vital points.


Dowling magnificent but a kk man.


Walsh really impressed me,came on.must start munster semi, guy has potential cork.


Lehane,what a player ,unmarkable,i said last wk ,on hes day.I was spot on.


They have mallow sat ,lehane beat a very gd mallow n hes own he wants .


They have dean ryan cup wed.sum wk.


Midelton ground it out in wet conditions,i had my reservatioNs bt them in days like today bt make no mistake lehane beat sars.


A lot of the rest have to step up.

Nagle was magnificent,always said had a bite to him.Got sent off,a big loss the next day.


If they make to final and play na piarsaigh ,kearney or mahony will be tormented by downes.They cdnt handle cussen,no chance with downes.

Lehane destroyed joe barry.


Heard haven result,credit due,i said it all week werent as bad or crokes as gd as were meant to be, and knew they would be competitve.Too much pride for them nt to be.


Credit due.

Heard youghal drew.Nt great sign draw team that second game in 24 hrs.

Youghal were missing a few.

yomtea98 wrote: »

Lehane was unreal in the senior game.Won it on his own.Luke was poor though as was Cussen.Big Michael is so lazy.Good win for Midelton

Congrats walsh was poetry in motion.I got so excited every time he got the ball.Superb.

Lorchan,unreal,great reader and man to sweep up play.

Nash what can u say,that hasnt bn said already.Better cork that these three are playing premierner next year.

Douglas beat na piarraigh u21 semi ,play rockies city final now.Good for cork with so much underage talent show both sides.

What a glorious day club hurling in cork.

Midelton,with douglas,rockies be main teams with newtown when they sort things out ,the next few years.

Id say sars are down for a while.Thats an old team.They were a good team,credit due for what they won, nothing great do,couldnt do much in Munster.Not a patch on Newtownshandrum.


Midelton will give it a rattle,but nagle is a loss.
They should drop aidan ryan or walsh back to replace him.