Mass Effect 3

Healium · 15-03-2011 9:46pm

They released today's pic a few hours ago, promising another one tomorrow. They're all on the Bioware Facebook page

Sisko · 16-03-2011 3:58am

pixelburp wrote: »

I'd say more than likely the characters will just be written out of the story, in the same way many of ME1's cast were.

Indeed this will likely be the case looking at biowares typical style, will be a shame though as they really seemed to be building up garrus as shepards main "sidekick". Although they went a bit mental by making him a romance option, wtf bioware? Or should I say, WTF female gamers? :pac:

I tell yeah this whole process must be damn hard on the writers, they have a very good base line for a solid story but have to deviate from it or come up with some weaker stuff just so it works with the multiple choice story.

For eg (do not read if you have not beaten ME2) :

Blowing up the base or using it to fight the reapers. Naturally the logical progression of the story is to not blow up the base, it adds a deeper darker 3rd chapter where shep is gonna have to not only deal with reapers but also with evil TIM and this also helps the TIM story arc , will he build his own reaper? Will shep have to steal this reaper from him and eventually use it against TIM and then the reapers themselves? etc etc etc
Then theres the fact that eliminating the base completely kills off the whole potential of having that story element needed where shep comes up with something to defeat the reapers, something that all those other civilisations didn't have.
Lastly how utterly nuts it would be storyline wise and character wise to have the one character in the entire ME universe who understands completely how much of a threat the reapers are to all life in the galaxy... would blow up their only ace in the hole just because TIM is a racist prick.

The writers are gonna have to come up with some way for it to all work even if people pick the mindless "paragon" option of eliminating the one hope of defeating the reapers (how this is considered a paragon option I'll never know)

They can't just kill off all that story potential. Likely what'll happen is that the sheps that blew up the base, fucked up some how and only damaged it, so TIM still gets it, and shep still eventually gets to use it for help against the reapers while still keeping some off the wall moral high ground ignoring the fact that if shep succeeded in blowing it up, everyone would be dead..

If they do kill off all that story potential though just to appease the silly ending choice, I imagine some of the writers would be very frustrated in doing so.

FutureGuy · 16-03-2011 9:08am

Healium wrote: »

They released today's pic a few hours ago, promising another one tomorrow. They're all on the Bioware Facebook page

Grr, can't wait for ME3 but I cannot see your pic or any other pics posted on boards in a similar manner...anyone know what could be causing it?

ME2 was probably the finest game I have played and probably the best ending sequence too.

Kiith · 16-03-2011 9:46am

Sisko wrote: »

Lastly how utterly nuts it would be storyline wise and character wise to have the one character in the entire ME universe who understands completely how much of a threat the reapers are to all life in the galaxy... would blow up their only ace in the hole just because TIM is a racist prick.

The writers are gonna have to come up with some way for it to all work even if people pick the mindless "paragon" option of eliminating the one hope of defeating the reapers (how this is considered a paragon option I'll never know)

I'm pretty sure he (I?) decided to blow it up becuase it had been used to create a Reaper from the bodies of hundreds of thousands of human colonists, rather then to say '**** you' to The Illusive Man. It's an "I want to beat them, but i won't become them" kind of thing. And it's definitely the 'Paragon' choice.

Kiith · 16-03-2011 9:49am

FutureGuy wrote: »

Grr, can't wait for ME3 but I cannot see your pic or any other pics posted on boards in a similar manner...anyone know what could be causing it?

He didn't post a picture here, but if you want it, here you go. The only reason you might not be able to see it is if the site (i.imgur.com in this case) is blocked where you are. Image is pretty big, so posting as a URL rather then and IMG.

http://i.imgur.com/kfrsn.jpg

Jim · 16-03-2011 1:23pm

Sisko · 16-03-2011 4:45pm

Kiith wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he (I?) decided to blow it up because it had been used to create a Reaper from the bodies of hundreds of thousands of human colonists, rather then to say '**** you' to The Illusive Man. It's an "I want to beat them, but i won't become them" kind of thing. And it's definitely the 'Paragon' choice.

The thing is for whatever moral or vengeful reasons you have to destroy the base, it ultimately means your gambling with the lives of trillions due to your own small (in the terms of a galaxy) hang ups. The one person who understands this the most is shepard. So its just uncharacteristic, the whole premise about shepards character is a person with the weight of trillions on their shoulders who has to make tough decisions with that in mind. But because its A GAME they have to make sure, not matter how wrong a persons choice is, it doesn't end up being the 'wrong' choice.

In other words they're not gonna have it so those who totally destroyed all the reaper tech end up getting killed in a valiant battle in the 3rd game and the galaxy gets wiped out of all intelligent life. And only those who just killed all the collectors but kept the base get to beat them in the 3rd game. What they'll do is have it so the base doesn't get fully destroyed for those that blow it or some other re write for those who didn't.

It would be interesting though if they did have a game where those major choices did effect if you could beat the game or not in the 3rd game, think it'd make more people think, rather then picking 'option x' fully aware that you can do so and still beat the game. If ME2 was any other medium shep would never blow up the base, its too much of a perfect story element to waste it as well as off the wall for the character.

The more I think about it the more blowing up the base seems like a renegade choice "I don't care how many billions of lives I put at risk,I'm blowing this thing up cause it pissed me off"

Mitch Connor · 16-03-2011 4:55pm

To have different story lines in ME3, do you have to have completed ME2 with different characters?

I have, so far, completed ME2 twice - once as, mainly, paragon - and once as almost completely renegade. Both were done with the same character though. Not in terms of going from the one save file, but the first completion was do with an import of Shep from ME1, and the second was done with an import of Shep from the completed ME2 game.

Will i have two different Sheps to import in ME3 (Level 28 or so paragon and a Level 50+ renegade)? Or do I have to start a completely new ME2 game to have more than one save?

Jim · 16-03-2011 4:57pm

Quick Q about the ending

If you decide to keep it does some sort of explosion happen anyway? I thought I decided to keep it but I remember Shep having to leg it off the base and jumping onto the Normandy justinthenickoftime

Healium · 16-03-2011 6:09pm

Another Mass Effect 2 Arrival screenshot

I'd like to dedicate this to FutureGuy

Mitch Connor · 16-03-2011 7:49pm

Jim wrote: »

Quick Q about the ending
If you decide to keep it does some sort of explosion happen anyway? I thought I decided to keep it but I remember Shep having to leg it off the base and jumping onto the Normandy justinthenickoftime

you set off some kind of DNA bomb or something if you decide to keep it, to kill all the collectors that are on the ship and clean it out - if you stuck around you'd be caught in the blast too and be killed.

Kirby · 16-03-2011 9:07pm

Sisko wrote: »

The more I think about it the more blowing up the base seems like a renegade choice "I don't care how many billions of lives I put at risk,I'm blowing this thing up cause it pissed me off"

I think you are kind of missing the point of the moral choice mate.

Some might be of the mind that the ends justify the means.

But There is an argument that...if you have to use evil to destroy evil....you've already lost and don't deserve to survive.

Josey Wales · 17-03-2011 1:10am

I'm really interested to see how they start your character in ME3. Will they take all your powers away and if so how will they do that?

Is 30 the max level in ME2? I'm currently at level 29.

Zero-Cool · 17-03-2011 1:11am

Josey Wales wrote: »

I'm really interested to see how they start your character in ME3. Will they take all your powers away and if so how will they do that?

Is 30 the max level in ME2? I'm currently at level 29.

Wondering that myself! Ya 30 is max. Wouldn't like to start a new game with all my powers anyway, would like to build them up but interesting to see what excuse they will use.

Captain Chaos · 17-03-2011 1:20am

Just a crazy idea, you start off ME3 at level 30 and carry on to, say 60. ME2 and 3 will be virtually one big game that was cut in two. So people starting 3 will be filled in on 2's story like ME2 on the PS3 filling in part 1. At the start you pick your powers for a level 30 start or import your existing level 30 and carry on. Seeing as you face the Reapers from the off it should be a more challanging game.

If you die in 2 and import, well that will be the interesting part.

I know I started Paddy's Day early.

Sisko · 17-03-2011 1:59am

Jim wrote: »

Quick Q about the ending
If you decide to keep it does some sort of explosion happen anyway? I thought I decided to keep it but I remember Shep having to leg it off the base and jumping onto the Normandy justinthenickoftime

Radiation blast elminating all life in the area even beyond the station, the cut scene I imagine is no different from the other choice, big flash and blast that the Normandy escapes from etc.

Kirby wrote: »

But There is an argument that...if you have to use evil to destroy evil....you've already lost and don't deserve to survive.

Thats not even an argument, gambling with the lives of trillions, TRILLIONS, cause you don't want to use the same technology the bad guys use? Insanity. No one person has the right to gamble the lives of so many because of that persons moral hang ups and lack of foresight.

You don't see the world not using jet fighters or going to the moon cause its evil nazi tech.

The whole 'I'd rather die then use your methods' thing only works when its your life on the line. But when its your entire species, nay, the entire galaxy's lives on the line it's beyond nuts to blow that up for your own selfish reasons.

Shepard is not supposed to be happy handing over the base to TIM don't get me wrong, but this is what makes good story telling. Now shepard would have to deal with TIM and the Reapers , more brilliant story telling possibilities.

I'd be very surprised if the writers just binned all that potential story telling to appease that ridiculous choice in the ending , that base has too much story potential to completely vanish.

GTR63 · 17-03-2011 3:02am

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Just a crazy idea, you start off ME3 at level 30 and carry on to, say 60. ME2 and 3 will be virtually one big game that was cut in two.

There was a ME1 you know.I expect people that have completed ME1,2 or Both that import their saves get a few levels boost like they did in ME2 & some extra weapons.
I can't wait for ME3 but the longer they tease this the more I think ME3 will be delayed until 2012 cause the end of this year is looking ridiculously good.

Kiith · 17-03-2011 10:19am

Sisko wrote: »

Thats not even an argument, gambling with the lives of trillions, TRILLIONS, cause you don't want to use the same technology the bad guys use? Insanity. No one person has the right to gamble the lives of so many because of that persons moral hang ups and lack of foresight.

So did you agree with Saren in Mass Effect 1, when he helped Sovereign to try and bring the Reapers back? Before being Indoctrinated, he made a deal with Sovereign that thousands/millions might die, but that most would be saved?

That turned out well...

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-03-2011 11:17am

sarens biggest mistake was trusting sovereign, his heart was in the right place

--edit

also on the subject of consequences in games, im playing the witcher atm for the first time. and a small decision I made in the tutorial chapter resulted in an innocent man being murdered halfway through chapter two. I just stood there looking at his body for a few minutes thinking ".... damn". Was very cool.

Kiith · 17-03-2011 11:20am

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

sarens biggest mistake was trusting sovereign, his heart was in the right place

He trusted Sovereign, even though he knew that a hell of a lot of people (although he did hate humans anyway) were going to die.

The Witcher is great for seemingly minor decisions early on affecting the later end of the game. It's a great game, that i really need to go back and finish.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 17-03-2011 11:28am

Kiith wrote: »

He trusted Sovereign, even though he knew that a hell of a lot of people (although he did hate humans anyway) were going to die.

the alternative though was that (just about) everyone would die, fighting the reapers wasn't a viable option in sarens mind but of course he didn't know that he was living in a computer game where john shepard could just die and be reborn every time he made a mistake until he finally beat the reapers.

The Witcher is great for seemingly minor decisions early on affecting the later end of the game. It's a great game, that i really need to go back and finish.

yeah, i just started chapter III and it's gotten to the stage where i'm afraid to actually make a decision, trying to work out how it might come back to bite me in the ass later in the game

Captain Chaos · 17-03-2011 2:38pm

GTR63 wrote: »

There was a ME1 you know.I expect people that have completed ME1,2 or Both that import their saves get a few levels boost like they did in ME2 & some extra weapons.

ME1 of course, still the best game on the 360 IMO. Same point of my post still stands as you die after one and are essentially rebuilt/cloned for 2. But ME2 and ME3 are to me like the Matrix 2 and 3, one giant story arch so the game's level system will relate closer unless Bioware go all cheap and we die again and are cloned again just to fit game mechanics.

Like wise back to the nagging point, how to handle if you die in 2 and import that save to 3. They just rebuild you again?
Can't wait to see what they do with this, just hope they don't pull a Dragon Age 2 on the Mass Effect fan base.

pixelburp · 17-03-2011 3:12pm

If memory serves, there was an interview some time back with Bioware & they claimed that for those who died in ME2, they wouldn't be able to import their character into ME3 & would have to play with the default John / Jane Shephard.

Sisko · 17-03-2011 4:28pm

Kiith wrote: »

So did you agree with Saren in Mass Effect 1, when he helped Sovereign to try and bring the Reapers back? Before being Indoctrinated, he made a deal with Sovereign that thousands/millions might die, but that most would be saved?

That turned out well...

What the hell? No cause what I'm talking about is completely and utterly different.

His deal was they'd all be slaves rather then die. Like the collectors. He decided not to even fight. Completely different to blowing up the one chance you do have to fight them off and ending the lives of trillions because you don't like TIM/don't want to use the bad guys technology/it says 'paragon' beside the choice.

Shepards willingness to fight them off rather then give up is exactly why the idea of blowing up all hope of doing so for any reason, is completely uncharacteristic as well as it goes against the flow of the story line.

The whole point of the shepard character is the old 'doing whatever it takes - making the hard decisions - to save the galaxy'

Kiith · 17-03-2011 4:46pm

Sisko wrote: »

His deal was they'd all be slaves rather then die. Like the collectors. He decided not to even fight. Completely different to blowing up the one chance you do have to fight them off and ending the lives of trillions because you don't like TIM/don't want to use the bad guys technology/it says 'paragon' beside the choice.

Shepards willingness to fight them off rather then give up is exactly why the idea of blowing up all hope of doing so for any reason, is completely uncharacteristic as well as it goes against the flow of the story line.

The whole point of the shepard character is the old 'doing whatever it takes - making the hard decisions - to save the galaxy'

You might not agree with the moral choice, but i see it as destroying a station that had created a Reaper (i.e. ultimate life killing monster) from the reprocessed remains of hundred's of thousands of people. That's not destroying it just cause i don't like it, or to piss of The Illusive Man. It's morally because it's the right thing to do.

Sheppard has belief in his, and his allies, abilities to get the job done without resorting to becoming the very enemy he is trying to fight against. Plus, you think giving something like that to Cerberus is a good idea? They have shown, time and time again, that they only have human interests at heart, and The Illusive Man is definitely not to be trusted.

Besides, Sheppard has done pretty well so far...

Kirby · 17-03-2011 8:35pm

Sisko wrote: »

it says 'paragon' beside the choice.

The whole point of the shepard character is the old 'doing whatever it takes - making the hard decisions - to save the galaxy'

Renegade shep will do "whatever it takes" to save the galaxy. Paragon shep won't sacrifice people or his morals to do it. Thats the difference between them.

They are both heroes. There is no light side / dark side in mass effect. Renegade shep isn't a bad guy. He's a needs of the many kind of guy.

The paragon option is the high and mighty option. To destroy the base. Because its morally wrong. Don't see why you can't see that. If you didn't like the choice, thats cool. Pick the renegade option. But your stance that destroying the base is out of character for a paragon is way, way off base. If you will excuse the pun

Sisko · 17-03-2011 9:49pm

Not at all, first of all the paragon and renegade options rarely deviate from the character too much. There's only a hand full of choice's that do and on both sides they are a little nuts (renegade shep being a cold blooded killer or paragon shep being incredibly tactless and militarily unsound) apart from that the only real difference is patience and empathy. Otherwise they are the same. (be very hard to write it any other way and not have it be stupid)

I'm primarily talking about what makes a good story and how the story line works , (eliminating the base is nuts from a writing perspective so much juicy story would be wasted)

But as far as the moral choice aspect of the argument, :

Kirby wrote: »

The paragon option is the high and mighty option. To destroy the base. Because its morally wrong. Don't see why you can't see that. If you didn't like the choice, thats cool. Pick the renegade option. But your stance that destroying the base is out of character for a paragon is way, way off base. If you will excuse the pun

Kiith wrote: »

but i see it as destroying a station that had created a Reaper (i.e. ultimate life killing monster) from the reprocessed remains of hundred's of thousands of people. That's not destroying it just cause i don't like it, or to piss of The Illusive Man. It's morally because it's the right thing to do.

Sheppard has belief in his, and his allies, abilities to get the job done without resorting to becoming the very enemy he is trying to fight against. Plus, you think giving something like that to Cerberus is a good idea? They have shown, time and time again, that they only have human interests at heart, and The Illusive Man is definitely not to be trusted.

Heres the thing, shepard is pretty much responsible for the lives of every intelligent being in the entire galaxy. Shepard knows this more then anyone, and knows how dangerous the reapers are due to the prothean vision/message inserted into his/her mind.

This choice is a gamble, the price? the lives of everyone, its a bigger gamble to destroy the base and hope shep and co can come up with some other random way of beating the reapers that no other race could do for all those millions of years the reapers have been doing this, then it is to keep that base intact even if it has to go to TIM for the mean time.

Thus it is immoral to make such a massive gamble on behalf of all the intelligent species in the galaxy just because every fibre of your being wants to blow up the thing for personal reasons.

This isnt Disney, this is BSG type stuff, its good writing , its a dark storyline and in fairness you have to hand it to the writers if you can get a nice debate on morality from a video game story line

People are completely free to use their imagination to make that choice seem plausible, in the end its all about enjoying your own experience but there is a base line story there that flows with the writing , I guarantee you if they decided to use some other story element as the big choice in the end of the game and not the base, shep would keep the base. But cause they did, they'll just have to make it so "paragon" sheps failed in totally destroying it or something in the 3rd game.

ME2 had **** all story but it put down foundations for a really good final chapter , if "paragon" shep got his/her way though all those foundations would blow up along with the base, I doubt the writers will let that happen.

Zero-Cool · 17-03-2011 10:21pm

I watched the 'bad' ending on youtube wear everyone dies and shep chooses to save the base before dying himself. What a depressing ending haha. Anyway, after Joker gives the final report to Timmy, Tim just looks out at that sun yoke and gives the faintest of evil smiles as if the mission worked out perfectly. He has the base and no one to stop him, what an evil mofo!

Just started to read the origins of Tim in that comic Evolution (i think?)

Sisko · 21-03-2011 9:45am

You can save everyone and not blow up the base or get everyone killed and blow up the base too you know :pac:

But yes, for me one of the best bits of the what imo would be cannon ending

Is when finally our boy TIM lets slip his guard for that one second and gives one hell of an evil smirk as he sips his whiskey and watches the holo image of the base.

I thought it was brilliant, as just before hand I had my shep ranting at him about how she only kept the base cause the reapers are a bigger threat and she does not trust cerberus for one second - "I'll be watching you" kinda thing. To which TIM came back with the usual "Don't judge me, I'm not evil just misunderstood" etc stuff to which shepard cuts him off and storms off.

He lights a smoke and pours a whiskey , sips and looks up with such an evil smirk I was like "Oooooooh you illusive son of a bitch, I can't feckin WAIT for ME3 now

" was such a great moment.

Zero-Cool · 31-03-2011 10:16pm

Now that Arrival is out, there is no more ME2 content

but there will be ME3 details revealed at the end of April. Strange how you will visit Earth in it, I keep picturing Resistance running round England fighting Aliens.

GTR63 · 02-04-2011 1:42am

Am I the only one that wants to see the elevators return at least once in ME3 i'm a bit worried that ME3 might be a little too similar to ME2 even though we know Nothing about ME3.I want Bioware to look backwards(ME1) rather than just follow ME2 with a game that plays the same except on Earth. Fingers crossed we get at least a Side Quest in Ireland (a distress signal asking for money perhaps).

Harps · 02-04-2011 2:47am

My guess would be that only the final mission will be on earth when you finally defeat the reapers. Theyre obviously not going to scrap the galactic exploration or anything like that

I can see the gameplay being even more streamlined towards a shooter if anything, the gameplay of the 2nd game but with more rpg elements and costomisation would be my preference but considering the premise its probably going to be really action orientated

Zero-Cool · 02-04-2011 9:17am

GTR63 wrote: »

Fingers crossed we get at least a Side Quest in Ireland (a distress signal asking for money perhaps).

hahaha brilliant!

Ya, id even prefer the elevators, the load screens were very long (on ps3 anyway) and it was funny hearing Garrus say to tali 'hey you ever miss our elevator conversations?' haha

Antar Bolaeisk · 02-04-2011 9:29am

Harps wrote: »

My guess would be that only the final mission will be on earth when you finally defeat the reapers. Theyre obviously not going to scrap the galactic exploration or anything like that

I don't know, have you seen what they did with DA2? (though of course I realise they are entirely different dev teams)

Trevor451 · 02-04-2011 11:59pm

The loading times are not long at all on the PC version. 15 seconds maximum

Zero-Cool · 08-04-2011 11:37am

Awwwwwwwwwwww Yaaaaaaaaaaaa 1st details!!

Spoilers Below!

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/297331/news/mass-effect-3-first-details/

According to the mag, BioWare's third and final sci-fi instalment kicks off with Shepard on Earth, facing trial for the events that occurred during the recently released Arrival DLC for Mass Effect 2.

In the middle of the trial, the Reapers invade, and it all kicks off. Mass Effect 3's prologue involves Shepard's escape to the Normandy, and subsequent mission to yet again gather allies to battle the Reaper troops.

Confirmed squadmates from the GI article include Liara, Ashley/Kaiden, Garrus (if he's alive) and a man called James Sanders, who we're not familiar with. Wrex, Mordin, Legion, and Anderson will also appear in the game (if they're alive), but aren't confirmed as squadmates.

Mass Effect 3's set to include numerous endings, BioWare's confirmed, and just like the last game who you have in your squad and which allies you recruit will have a drastic effect on which ending you get.

The Illusive Man also plays a prominent role in the third game, and Cerberus is out to kill Shepard for reasons unknown, says GI.

In the gameplay department, RPG elements are being beefed up for the third game, says BioWare, offering players more freedom with character skills. Skill trees are said to be larger, and powers will evolve several times instead of just once, offering players even more freedom.

Weapons are similar to those in Mass Effect 2, except mods make a return, allowing you to swap out different parts such as barrels, scopes, and so on, which effect both the weapon's combat performance and appearance.

All classes can wield all weapons unhindered now, but will have limited slots to carry them. For example, only the Soldier can carry all weapons at once.

Mr Freeze · 08-04-2011 11:43am

Sounds class!!!!

AnCapaillMor · 08-04-2011 12:08pm

Cool news on the weapon mods i was sick of running around with the same weapon with no add-ons. 1 went a bit crazy with the amount of weapons to pick up and 2 was the exact opposite; really limiting the weapons. No mention of tali, i want to see what a quarian looks like.

Zero-Cool · 08-04-2011 12:13pm

AnCapaillMor wrote: »

Cool news on the weapon mods i was sick of running around with the same weapon with no add-ons. 1 went a bit crazy with the amount of weapons to pick up and 2 was the exact opposite; really limiting the weapons. No mention of tali, i want to see what a quarian looks like.

Ya Really hope Tali is back, worked too hard on it in ME2!

Mr Freeze · 08-04-2011 12:16pm

It's early days yet, I'd think most of the squad from ME2 will make an appearance!
I definitely want to see Miranda and Garrus back as squadmates!

WolfForager · 08-04-2011 8:41pm

Just give me Miranda!!! ALL I WANT IS MIRANDA!!!!

:pac:

Sephiroth_dude · 08-04-2011 9:47pm

WolfForager wrote: »

Just give me Miranda!!! ALL I WANT IS MIRANDA!!!!

:pac:

mmmmmm miranda :pac:

Josey Wales · 08-04-2011 9:59pm

I hope Liara has a much bigger role to play. After the the events of The Shadow Broker I'd say that is pretty much guaranteed.

Harps · 09-04-2011 12:35am

Love the sounds of that, good to see more rpg elements back, I was afraid they'd try and streamline it even more so thats a welcome bit of news. Nothing new aside from that, the squad member returning was a given but good to finally get some concrete info

I really need to give it another playthrough, still not player the Lair of the Shadow Broker, Arrival or even any of the Cerberus Network or other dlc, bought all of it now so must get around to it over Easter.

Bloody Nipples · 09-04-2011 1:53pm

Multiplayer is apparently a no-show.

Zero-Cool · 09-04-2011 2:37pm

Bloody Nipples wrote: »

Multiplayer is apparently a no-show.

Thank God!!

jamezy · 09-04-2011 4:13pm

sheehy83 wrote: »

Thank God!!

Second.

Antar Bolaeisk · 09-04-2011 5:53pm

jamezy wrote: »

sheehy83 wrote: »

Thank God!!

Second.

Thirded

They need to focus on getting the story and single player right, there's no need for multiplayer in a game like this (though perhaps co-op might have worked)

steel_spine · 09-04-2011 9:03pm

Harps wrote: »

I really need to give it another playthrough, still not player the Lair of the Shadow Broker, Arrival or even any of the Cerberus Network or other dlc, bought all of it now so must get around to it over Easter.

Lair of the Shadow Broker is REALLY good. Kasumi's DLC I enjoyed a lot, and you get the best SMG in the game in it.

Harps · 09-04-2011 10:11pm

Started it today only to suddenly remember why I haven't played it for the past 6 months, namely the tiny and impossible to read text. The joys of having an old crt tv :rolleyes:

Back home next week with my HD tv thankfully

Mass Effect 3

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