All Ireland Junior Club Semi Final

citycentre · 24-01-2012 6:15pm

lala88 wrote: »

Management and backroom team have no place on the feild what are you on about? There place is on the sideline

premierstone wrote: »

oh lord, and you have the cheek to accuse someone else of been misinformed :rolleyes:

Misinformed is claiming that these people were "on the pitch" before the melee started. They were on the sideline when they were attacked by the dromid players. But wait, don't let facts get in the way of your hysterical ranting...

premierstone · 24-01-2012 6:17pm

Zzippy wrote: »

I doubt very many of the people condemning the pitch incursion are Dromid supporters, so the bad loser tag is a bit silly. I've never even heard of Dromid before but after watching the video I can also say the guys who jumped the barrier should be suspended, there was NO excuse for that.
I have prior experience of being kicked in the head by someone who came onto the field during a match against a Tyrone club, so watching that brought back a few memories - its disgusting behaviour and has no place on a GAA pitch, whatever county you're in.

I am from Tipp and actually my own club was beaten by Dromid in the Munster Final so certainly have no great gra for the Kerry boys, the bad looser tag is a pathetic attempt to deflect the shamefull scenes, as a result of the video at least 8 players deserve bans, from both sides mind you, and the Derrytresk club should be asked to identify the non players who encroached the field and let the Gardai deal with them, if they fail to provide this info then no AI final for them.

premierstone · 24-01-2012 6:18pm

citycentre wrote: »

Misinformed is claiming that these people were "on the pitch" before the melee started. They were not, they were on the sideline as is their right. Keep on rollin all you want!

The Derrytresk stats man was on the field, and it is not their right to on the sideline, examine the rules of the GAA and come back to me :rolleyes:

citycentre · 24-01-2012 6:20pm

premierstone wrote: »

The Derrytresk stats man was on the field, and it is not their right to on the sideline, examine the rules of the GAA and come back to me :rolleyes:

Tell me, how do you know he was their stats man and how can you claim he was "on the field" when he was charged into? I know categorically that he wasnt. Correct me if I'm wrong but the last rule change with regard to this allows Six to Eight "officials" from each team on the sidelines. Personally I think it's far too many anyway but there you have it.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 24-01-2012 6:33pm

citycentre wrote: »

Management and backroom team. They had every right to be there. Personally I think the numbers of such personell should be limited, especially on a pitch like at Portlaoise where the space between sideline and fence is pathetically inadequate.

No they dont, they have to remain seated on the bench. Only a few selected mentors from each team are allowed to walk along the side line.

Management and backroom team or not, you dont run onto the field at the first sign of a fight. the subs were falling over themselves to get onto the pitch. The more people that get involved make the whole situation harder for the officials to keep under control.

citycentre · 24-01-2012 6:34pm

Annie Bald Levee wrote: »

No they dont, they have to remain seated on the bench. Only a few selected mentors from each team are allowed to walk along the side line.

Management and backroom team or not, you dont run onto the field at the first sign of a fight. the subs were falling over themselves to get onto the pitch. The more people that get involved make the whole situation harder for the officials to keep under control.

What bench? Have you ever been to O'Moore Park? The sideline setup is pathetic...

JFlah · 24-01-2012 6:41pm

"I have to hold my hand up and say they were the better team.

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/news/disgusted-dromid-left-seething-181128.html#ixzz1kOjWK6Lb

IMO despite a few posters on here thinking otherwise Dromid are not crying over the RESULT they are upset over the behaviour that they felt was meted out to them and premeditated. The brawl as it was started as a scuffle that happens in countless games up and down the country and would quickly have died down except for the reaction of the Derrytresk subs that invaded the pitch so quickly , surely they all have to have some degree of self control ? I,m not saying Dromid players were faultless but anyone who watches the footage and can,t condemn the behaviour of mainly Derrytresk subs and mentors and it seems from reports supporters is quite frankly an idiot. Also a number of comments are being made about an anti Tyrone bias particularly from Kerry supporters , the fact is that the number of violent incidents involving Tyrone clubs and supporters recently has become an issue plain and simple and it has to be seen as a problem in Tyrone. Violence like that seen Sunday in un acceptable in ~ANY~ county and surely it has got to the stage where a REAL example has to be made and unfortunately from their point of view this example should start with Derrytresk. I also agree that Dromid players should be fully reprimanded for any part they played in events but from all reports from NEUTRAL sources theirs was the minor part! Come on lads grabbing guys testicles pre game!!! allegedly I know before anyone over reacts!

keane2097 · 24-01-2012 6:46pm

I'm counting sore losers from Donegal, Tipperary, Wexford, Cork, Down, Kerry and Dublin on this thread so far (at least).

For a village of a couple of hundred people Dromid fans really have infested everywhere :eek:

homerjay2005 · 24-01-2012 7:02pm

there is more than just that clip, other incidents are also needing attention here.

boards seems to be some place for placing the sore losers tag, you cant mention something and your a sore loser. generally though, when teams have a complaint that is genuine, most neutrals are able to agree.

this is shocking from the tyrone lads and is another sad day for the gaa.

keane2097 · 24-01-2012 7:05pm

The citycentre guy is the only guy tossing out the sore loser line in fairness and he was clearly in the Derrytresk camp.

It's embarrassing that tribal loyalties can blind people as badly as that.

max 73 · 24-01-2012 7:22pm

There should be serious sanctions, by sanctions I mean club suspension, player suspensions, heavy fines & dumped out of competition.

But as usual the issue will be fudged & appealed under all sorts of articles.

The association needs to grow a pair and show that this behaviour will not be tolerated - a tough desicion now (its not a tough desicion as far as I'm concerned but it is fir the gaa)will lead to easier management of incidents such as this and maybe stamp it out

The_Kew_Tour · 24-01-2012 7:25pm

Any supporters that come onto a pitch should never set foot on any GAA pitch again.

Far severe punishments need to be taken.

It's time the GAA got their act together.

Kerrydude1981 · 24-01-2012 8:22pm

The result of the match isnt an issue imo,Its just not right to have subs and supporters jumping in and attacking players,no matter what has happened on the field of play this should not happen and if you have a view that its ok for people to do it then you should really stop going to GAA matches.

Derrystrek go on to the final but I really hope the subs and supporters that jumped the fence wont be there to see it,ban them,these kinda of fellas dont deserve to be in Croke Park or any GAA pitch for that matter

Yes im from Kerry and we are no angels either down here,ive been to plenty of matches where incidents have happened both in Football and Hurling,I can remember a few years back a ref gettin attacked leaving the pitch after a County Hurling Semi Final,the fellas that attacked him,one fella got banned for life and the players involved got 96 week suspensions and the club was fined as well.

So its up to the Croke Park boys to sit down and look at it,ban those that did wrong ban some of them for life,and take a look at the stewarding for big club games like this,I can only see two stewards in the video clip,one comes on to the field while the other one stays in the stand.

dartbhoy · 24-01-2012 8:34pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Any supporters that come onto a pitch should never set foot on any GAA pitch again.

Far severe punishments need to be taken.

It's time the GAA got their act together.

Well said. I didn't read today's Irish Independent but according to Newstalk radio this morning columnist Eugene Magee lashed the GAA about the problems with on field brawls that has been going on for years but they turn a blind eye to it. The GAA have to take a serious look at themselves and admit they have contributed to the problem because of lack of punishment to teams on previous brawls.

This is a widespread problem and not just a Tyrone thing to be fair. The 2010 North Kerry senior football final which was played in January 2011 made the headlines in the Irish Examiner for the wrong reasons. There has been a few games in my own county Cork down through the years that have had to be abandoned in their time due to brawls. Anyone who thinks this is a Tyrone problem only are living in cloud cuckoo land. High time that the GAA woke up and realise this needs to be sorted ASAP.

Utopia Parkway · 24-01-2012 8:41pm

dartbhoy wrote: »

Well said. I didn't read today's Irish Independent but according to Newstalk radio this morning columnist Eugene Magee lashed the GAA about the problems with on field brawls that has been going on for years but they turn a blind eye to it. The GAA have to take a serious look at themselves and admit they have contributed to the problem because of lack of punishment to teams on previous brawls.

This is a widespread problem and not just a Tyrone thing to be fair. The 2010 North Kerry senior football final which was played in January 2011 made the headlines in the Irish Examiner for the wrong reasons. There has been a few games in my own county Cork down through the years that have had to be abandoned in their time due to brawls. Anyone who thinks this is a Tyrone problem only are living in cloud cuckoo land. High time that the GAA woke up and realise this needs to be sorted ASAP.

No doubt it's a problem everywhere although things seems to be coming to a head recently. You sense it won't be long until some club is chucked out of a competion entirely for an incident like this. And it might have to be more than one until clubs begin to cop onto themselves discipline wise.

dartbhoy · 24-01-2012 9:00pm

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

No doubt it's a problem everywhere although things seems to be coming to a head recently. You sense it won't be long until some club is chucked out of a competion entirely for an incident like this. And it might have to be more than one until clubs begin to cop onto themselves discipline wise.

I'm just after coming off facebook there and a friend of mine from a nearby town Kanturk who lost to Dromid in the Munster semi final went to Portlaoise on Sunday and said on his profile that he was so shocked at the intimidation of a number of the Tyrone team's supporters that he left before the end of the game missing the Intermediate semi final game as a result. He also added that a number of genuine Derrytresk supporters approached these aggressive fans and asked them to calm down but were verbally abused. Sad carry on in the GAA in the 21st century.

citycentre · 24-01-2012 9:17pm

keane2097 wrote: »

The citycentre guy is the only guy tossing out the sore loser line in fairness and he was clearly in the Derrytresk camp.

It's embarrassing that tribal loyalties can blind people as badly as that.

Clearly eh? Once again the oracle speaks...

Whats embarassing is the over the top reactions of so many know it alls like yourself. Based on one video clip which shows a fairly innocuous looking brawl with subs on the bench regrettably joining in (for which I'm sure they will be punished), a sour grapes match report from the Examiner, a series of ever more hysterical and over the top callers to Joe Duffy on liveline spouting exaggerations and outright lies about the incidents (wheres the female physio in the clip?), a few one sided press releases and interviews - the funniest and most shameful being from the Dromid manager who came across as a total drama queen complaining about his poor players nuts being felt - and vowing never to go to another match again etc. then a load of bandwagon jumpers in the media using the assembled "evidence" to drag the name of a small community through the mud. Follow this with the inevitable armchair warriors pontificating and wringing their hands in disgust without even trying to get a balanced perspective.

All this despite the clear evidence on the released video and from the disgraceful card tally that Dromid were in the business of provoking the opposition, were persistent foulers and are clearly not averse to a bit of whinging and moaning when things don't go their way. Lets not forget also that they were happy to bull in fists swinging at a bloody sideline official!! Their media whoring, calls for disqualification of the other side and general lack of any sort of manliness (for want of a better word) about the whole situation disgusts me far more than the "handbags" I saw in that video.

Its all irrelevant anyway, sure Clonbur will thrash either team in the final - Derrytresk because they probably won't have any subs on the day and Dromid, well sure they come across as being nothing but a pack of old women!

keane2097 · 24-01-2012 9:19pm

citycentre wrote: »

Clearly eh? Once again the oracle speaks...

Whats embarassing is the over the top reactions of so many know it alls like yourself. Based on one video clip which shows a fairly innocuous looking brawl with subs on the bench regrettably joining in (for which I'm sure they will be punished), a sour grapes match report from the Examiner, a series of ever more hysterical and over the top callers to Joe Duffy on liveline spouting exaggerations and outright lies about the incidents (wheres the female physio in the clip?), a few one sided press releases and interviews - the funniest and most shameful being from the Dromid manager who came across as a total drama queen complaining about his poor players nuts being felt - and vowing never to go to another match again etc. then a load of bandwagon jumpers in the media using the assembled "evidence" to drag the name of a small community through the mud. Follow this with the inevitable armchair warriors pontificating and wringing their hands in disgust without even trying to get a balanced perspective.

All this despite the clear evidence on the released video and from the disgraceful card tally that Dromid were in the business of provoking the opposition, were persistent foulers and are clearly not averse to a bit of whinging and moaning when things don't go their way. Lets not forget also that they were happy to bull in fists swinging at a bloody sideline official!! Their media whoring, calls for disqualification of the other side and general lack of any sort of manliness (for want of a better word) about the whole situation disgusts me far more than the "handbags" I saw in that video.

Its all irrelevant anyway, sure Clonbur will thrash either team in the final - Derrytresk because they probably won't have any subs on the day and Dromid, well sure they come across as being nothing but a pack of old women!

I'm embarrassed for you.

citycentre · 24-01-2012 9:23pm

keane2097 wrote: »

I'm embarrassed for you.

Really, Im honoured... Great to have someone who knows so much have feelings for me!

dartbhoy · 24-01-2012 9:45pm

It'll be interesting to see what will come out of the Investigation to this brawl. While there's no doubt Derrytresk will be the centre of attention some Dromid players will be in bother also. My main hope is that the GAA will study this incident and set out new rules and regulations for the future regarding brawls of this nature. As for calls for Derrytresk to be thrown out of the All Ireland I don't think there's any rules in the Association at present that will allow for that to happen.

wonga77 · 24-01-2012 10:01pm

Not that it really matters in my opinion but im not sure where the wrong card count has come from, probably another element of lazy journalism. It was actually Dromid 8 yellows against Derrytresks 4 and not 9 - 2 as suggested everywhere. Easily counted for those who actually watched the game. Again it doesnt change the situation but at least have the facts someway correct

Mervyn Crawford · 25-01-2012 9:12am

The GAA is a reactionary organisation that encourages parochialism and violence.

Controlled by local elites it engages in favouritism and bullying.

Supported by the banks and the alcohol industry.

thegen · 25-01-2012 10:20am

Mervyn Crawford wrote: »

The GAA is a reactionary organisation that encourages parochialism and violence.

Controlled by local elites it engages in favouritism and bullying.

Supported by the banks and the alcohol industry.

Did ye not get picked for the u10b's at some stage. Grow up FFS.

keane2097 · 25-01-2012 10:25am

He could do with fleshing it out a bit, but in the main his post is spot on tbh and I'm GAA to the core.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 25-01-2012 10:29am

citycentre wrote: »

What bench? Have you ever been to O'Moore Park? The sideline setup is pathetic...

you missed my point 100%

thegen · 25-01-2012 10:33am

keane2097 wrote: »

He could do with fleshing it out a bit, but in the main his post is spot on tbh and I'm GAA to the core.

I have to say that being controlled by the banks and the drinks industry is over the top. My Club's bar does not support the club, fund raising does and we have no debt with the banks so that's that argument out the window in my club. It would be interesting to see how many clubs are actually in debt and dancing to the banks tune though.

Favoritism will be found in all clubs, be it GAA, Rugby, Soccer, Tennis, Golf, it does not matter that's life.The Parish is the way the GAA has always been run bar Dublin where there is no parish rule.

I just think his statement was far to general.

I am involved in GAA, Soccer and Golf clubs so have seen all of what hes talks about.

duchalla · 25-01-2012 10:34am

dartbhoy wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see what will come out of the Investigation to this brawl. While there's no doubt Derrytresk will be the centre of attention some Dromid players will be in bother also. My main hope is that the GAA will study this incident and set out new rules and regulations for the future regarding brawls of this nature. As for calls for Derrytresk to be thrown out of the All Ireland I don't think there's any rules in the Association at present that will allow for that to happen.

I presume it'll come down to what the ref puts in his report. There were plenty more incidents in the game that deserve a proper look. The CCCC are usually fast enough to deal with incidents at an intercounty level. no.11 for Derrytresk will have to get banned for the cowardly way he hit the Dromid no.5 while he was on the ground. To be honest, I dunno if any Dromid players deserved to get banned. The no.5 was booked by the ref after the brawl, so he was dealt with. The Derrytresk clipboard guy started the scuffle with the Dromid no.4 and to be fair the Dromid man didnt do anything out of the way. Keep an eye on him, at 10 secs, a baldy scumbag comes over the hoarding and goes with an elbow into the head of the Dromid player, serious damage if he'd connected, the scumbag slipped, but got up and continued flaking any dromid player near him. At 17 secs,the Dromid no.9 from got a belt from the scumbag in the hoodie. He can be seen hopping kicks off the Dromid no.5 om the ground after. NO BODY CAN JUSTIFY THIS CARRY ON. They should be thrown out of the competition.

bruschi · 25-01-2012 10:58am

Citycentre is exactly what is wrong with the GAA and these kind of situations. and he has put himself in such a corner now defending everything, he cant see the wood from the trees.

Most people want to see these incidents eradicated completley, but until clubs start admitting responsibility and acknowledging this cant be accepted it wont change anytime soon.

1. Blame the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

Nor did the Derrytresk players or subs "start" the brawl.

Check.

2. Defend an entire subs bench launching over a fence to engage in a brawl

citycentre wrote: »

I think it was understandable in the heat of the moment

Check.

3. Blame it on over reactions of everyone else

citycentre wrote: »

neither was it the SHOCK HORROR DISGRACE etc. etc....over the top reactions ...your hysterical ranting...The sheer hysteria over all this is just ridiculous

Check.

4. Call the opposition sore losers

citycentre wrote: »

that everyone (especially the bad losers) is whining about....it smacks of the Kerry team just being plain bad losers

Check

5. Blame the grounds

citycentre wrote: »

What bench? Have you ever been to O'Moore Park? The sideline setup is pathetic...

Check

6. Call it handbags and a nothing inicident

citycentre wrote: »

a fairly innocuous looking brawl...

Check

7. Mention Joe Duffy

citycentre wrote: »

a series of ever more hysterical and over the top callers to Joe Duffy on liveline spouting exaggerations and outright lies about the incidents ...

Check

8. blame the media

citycentre wrote: »

a sour grapes match report from the Examiner...
then a load of bandwagon jumpers in the media using the assembled "evidence" to drag the name of a small community through the mud. ..this is being blown out of all proportion by the media

Check

9. blame the internet

citycentre wrote: »

Follow this with the inevitable armchair warriors pontificating and wringing their hands in disgust without even trying to get a balanced perspective..

Check

10. Keep blaming the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

All this despite the clear evidence on the released video and from the disgraceful card tally that Dromid were in the business of provoking the opposition, were persistent foulers and are clearly not averse to a bit of whinging and moaning when things don't go their way..

Check

11. abuse the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

Their media whoring, ... general lack of any sort of manliness ... well sure they come across as being nothing but a pack of old women!...Dromid manager who came across as a total drama queen

Check

12. Admit your club was wrong in what they did

citycentre wrote: »

regretable....excuses.....wasn't either teams finest hour ...more excuses... regretably...excuses
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Nope, no admission of guilt or wrongdoing.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 25-01-2012 11:03am

bruschi, shur GAA is a contact sport

washman3 · 25-01-2012 11:10am

Mervyn Crawford wrote: »

The GAA is a reactionary organisation that encourages parochialism and violence.

Controlled by local elites it engages in favouritism and bullying.

Supported by the banks and the alcohol industry.

You really do need to get out more bud...!!!!
time to seriously grow up.

Tombo2000 · 25-01-2012 11:13am

dartbhoy wrote: »

It'll be interesting to see what will come out of the Investigation to this brawl. While there's no doubt Derrytresk will be the centre of attention some Dromid players will be in bother also. My main hope is that the GAA will study this incident and set out new rules and regulations for the future regarding brawls of this nature. As for calls for Derrytresk to be thrown out of the All Ireland I don't think there's any rules in the Association at present that will allow for that to happen.

here's the thing:

A lot of the discussion here seems to be about "who is to blame".

But thats a misplaced discussion....

It doesnt matter whether the Ulster team started it, or whether the Munster team started it.

Because most people who see this video are just going to see dozens and dozens of grown men assualting each other on a football pitch in broad daylight, some of them in red jerseys and some of them in blue jerseys. They dont know which team is which, or where they are from, and they dont care.

Whats to blame here is the culture in GAA football that tolerates this sort of violence.

And thats enough to put a lot of people off football for life.

You dont see this in other GAA sports, you dont see it in soccer or rugby, or any other sport.

And a big part of the problem here is, people who go on about 'handbags....its a contact sport....it was only a slap..' and so on......thats fine.....what you are really saying is.....

"We know that big mills (ie violence and assault) are part of the game, and we are happy with that, it entertains us"

.......thats fine for you, and if you maintain that view then the game won't change, but a lot of other people will never touch the game as a result.

homerjay2005 · 25-01-2012 11:30am

bruschi wrote: »

Citycentre is exactly what is wrong with the GAA and these kind of situations. and he has put himself in such a corner now defending everything, he cant see the wood from the trees.

Most people want to see these incidents eradicated completley, but until clubs start admitting responsibility and acknowledging this cant be accepted it wont change anytime soon.

1. Blame the opposition
Check.

2. Defend an entire subs bench launching over a fence to engage in a brawl
Check.

3. Blame it on over reactions of everyone else
Check.

4. Call the opposition sore losers
Check

5. Blame the grounds
Check

6. Call it handbags and a nothing inicident
Check

7. Mention Joe Duffy
Check

8. blame the media
Check

9. blame the internet
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10. Keep blaming the opposition
Check

11. abuse the opposition
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12. Admit your club was wrong in what they did

Nope, no admission of guilt or wrongdoing.

one of the best posts ever on this forum, well done.
what you said right there, sums up the gaa. blame it all on somebody else except yourself.

this post can be used over and over again, anytime something goes wrong. i love the gaa, its been beat into me since i was young, but it embarrasses me more than any other sport.

its always somebody elses fault.

bruschi · 25-01-2012 11:37am

homerjay2005 wrote: »

one of the best posts ever on this forum, well done.
what you said right there, sums up the gaa. blame it all on somebody else except yourself.

this post can be used over and over again, anytime something goes wrong. i love the gaa, its been beat into me since i was young, but it embarrasses me more than any other sport.

its always somebody elses fault.

yup. the only thing missing was the referee, and he is usally number 1.

Dick Clerkin was on Matt Coopers show the other night and was saying similar, and that he is embarressed for the sport he loves every Monday morning when the papers back page carries some sort of headline of a controversial game on the weekend. Its the other thing that happens too, people whinge about the media sensationalising the events, and making mroe of them, and they are nothing fights. dont do it in the first place, and then there is no story for them to run. Missing the point completley.

Park Royal · 25-01-2012 12:22pm

It is surprising to hear there are also allegations....of sexual abuse .....

several players have alleged they were sexually molested ...

these are serious allegations , players sexually molesting other players

have no place in this sport....IMHO....

we have enough problems like those in other sports like swimming.....

keane2097 · 25-01-2012 12:31pm

I don't think there's been any suggestion either verbal or implied that there was a sexual motive behind any of the incidents at the game.

JFlah · 25-01-2012 12:34pm

bruschi wrote: »

Citycentre is exactly what is wrong with the GAA and these kind of situations. and he has put himself in such a corner now defending everything, he cant see the wood from the trees.

Most people want to see these incidents eradicated completley, but until clubs start admitting responsibility and acknowledging this cant be accepted it wont change anytime soon.

1. Blame the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

Nor did the Derrytresk players or subs "start" the brawl.

Check.

2. Defend an entire subs bench launching over a fence to engage in a brawl

citycentre wrote: »

I think it was understandable in the heat of the moment

Check.

3. Blame it on over reactions of everyone else

citycentre wrote: »

neither was it the SHOCK HORROR DISGRACE etc. etc....over the top reactions ...your hysterical ranting...The sheer hysteria over all this is just ridiculous

Check.

4. Call the opposition sore losers

citycentre wrote: »

that everyone (especially the bad losers) is whining about....it smacks of the Kerry team just being plain bad losers

Check

5. Blame the grounds

citycentre wrote: »

What bench? Have you ever been to O'Moore Park? The sideline setup is pathetic...

Check

6. Call it handbags and a nothing inicident

citycentre wrote: »

a fairly innocuous looking brawl...

Check

7. Mention Joe Duffy

citycentre wrote: »

a series of ever more hysterical and over the top callers to Joe Duffy on liveline spouting exaggerations and outright lies about the incidents ...

Check

8. blame the media

citycentre wrote: »

a sour grapes match report from the Examiner...
then a load of bandwagon jumpers in the media using the assembled "evidence" to drag the name of a small community through the mud. ..this is being blown out of all proportion by the media

Check

9. blame the internet

citycentre wrote: »

Follow this with the inevitable armchair warriors pontificating and wringing their hands in disgust without even trying to get a balanced perspective..

Check

10. Keep blaming the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

All this despite the clear evidence on the released video and from the disgraceful card tally that Dromid were in the business of provoking the opposition, were persistent foulers and are clearly not averse to a bit of whinging and moaning when things don't go their way..

Check

11. abuse the opposition

citycentre wrote: »

Their media whoring, ... general lack of any sort of manliness ... well sure they come across as being nothing but a pack of old women!...Dromid manager who came across as a total drama queen

Check

12. Admit your club was wrong in what they did

citycentre wrote: »

regretable....excuses.....wasn't either teams finest hour ...more excuses... regretably...excuses
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Nope, no admission of guilt or wrongdoing.

Brilliant post sums up the prevailing attitude of a host of people brilliantly.
Kudos

wanlabanchang · 25-01-2012 12:37pm

Its an awful pitty that the GAA didn't do anything years ago to stamp out the 'northern' style of football.

duchalla · 25-01-2012 12:41pm

keane2097 wrote: »

I don't think there's been any suggestion either verbal or implied that there was a sexual motive behind any of the incidents at the game.

Maybe the aul wan who went at Declan with the handbag was after something else.

keane2097 · 25-01-2012 12:46pm

duchalla wrote: »

Maybe the aul wan who went at Declan with the handbag was after something else.

It's a shame this handbag thing is being made such a headline in this whole sorry affair because it makes it all that much easier to laugh and joke about.

The incident you're referring to saw O'Sullivan accosted as he tried to leave the field after the game was over, he was struck with a handbag by a woman as you mention, but he was also assaulted by a man accompanying her.

Both were nabbed by a Guard who witnessed the incident, but by the time the Guard had dealt with the two and gone looking for O'Sullivan to seek a statement he had already left the ground.

It's all dreadful stuff, not fit for laughing about in the slightest imo.

wonga77 · 25-01-2012 1:04pm

I doubt very much he would have made a big deal about it anyway. It would only be an embarrasment for him. Getting hit with a handbag and making front page news over it must have been bad enough. In fairness, dromid players have kept a low profile since and I know the media have been doing their best to contact a few of them the last few days

keane2097 · 25-01-2012 1:14pm

wonga77 wrote: »

I doubt very much he would have made a big deal about it anyway. It would only be an embarrasment for him. Getting hit with a handbag and making front page news over it must have been bad enough. In fairness, dromid players have kept a low profile since and I know the media have been doing their best to contact a few of them the last few days

That's not good enough.

Any player involved in incidents like these has a moral obligation to society as well as the GAA to assist the Guards and the association in prosecuting these people to an appropriate degree.

How mealy-mouthed will the angry statements coming out of Kerry about all this look if it later transpires that people involved aren't even willing to make a statement to the Guards about an incident a Guard saw himself and went looking for help following up on?

Can't have it both ways, anyone refusing to make statements or similar are simply saying they're happy enough for shit like this to go on indefinitely.

8k2q1gfcz9s5d4 · 25-01-2012 1:17pm

wonga77 wrote: »

I doubt very much he would have made a big deal about it anyway. It would only be an embarrasment for him. Getting hit with a handbag and making front page news over it must have been bad enough. In fairness, dromid players have kept a low profile since and I know the media have been doing their best to contact a few of them the last few days

as far as the GAA are concerned, the issue here is a player getting assaulted after the game. doesnt matter if it was a hand bag or a punch in the face. Why are supporters able to do this?

J Cheever Loophole · 25-01-2012 1:22pm

wanlabanchang wrote: »

Its an awful pitty that the GAA didn't do anything years ago to stamp out the 'northern' style of football.

Best post on here by a country mile. That has set the bar that the rest of ye have to reach! :pac:

premierstone · 25-01-2012 1:23pm

Mervyn Crawford wrote: »

The GAA is a reactionary organisation that encourages parochialism and violence.

Controlled by local elites it engages in favouritism and bullying.

Supported by the banks and the alcohol industry.

LOL somebody couldnt make their local team ahhhhhh

duchalla · 25-01-2012 1:24pm

keane2097 wrote: »

It's all dreadful stuff, not fit for laughing about in the slightest imo.

keano2097, I know it was awful carry on. I wasnt making a joke out of it. T'was more of a dig at the aul wan than than anything else. Apologies if it came across different....

keane2097 · 25-01-2012 1:31pm

duchalla wrote: »

keano2097, I know it was awful carry on. I wasnt making a joke out of it. T'was more of a dig at the aul wan than than anything else. Apologies if it came across different....

Yeah, I wasn't giving out to you - you just reminded me what a disaster the handbag thing is from the POV of this being taken in the serious way it ought to be.

Shame on the media for picking "hit with a handbag" over "punched in the face by a thug" as their headline tbh.

hisholinessnb · 25-01-2012 2:55pm

Disgraceful scenes and the harshes possible punishment needs to be dished out. We need to put the foot down and set an example that we do not accept this anymore.

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DDC1990 · 25-01-2012 4:03pm

Pretty terrible when players get picked out and assaulted because they are on the county team.

Also, to have the whole subs bench hop over the wall and turn an already firey situation into an uncontrolled brawl is unacceptable.

Derrytresk should be thrown out of the competition and the Galway club should be awarded the Final. Serious fines should be handed out also for their lack of controll over players, subs and supporters.

Dromid aren't blameless in this either, but the burden especially from the video evidence lies on the Derrytresk backs, IMO.

Pretty ugly scenes, something which has unfortunatly becme commonplace in Tyrone club football recently.

cruiserweight · 25-01-2012 6:05pm

A few things. I will move some posts from here to the new thread on GAA in Irish Society so as to not drag this discussion off track.

Secondly there is some bickering and generally niggling coming into some of the posts. Remember attack the post and not the poster, anymore of this crap and bans will be dished out.

dartbhoy · 25-01-2012 10:17pm

I've declared from the start of this thread that Derrytresk shouldn't be thrown out of the All Ireland and even though I'm very much in the minority on this thread about this personally while Derrytresk have questions to answer and must face punishment for what happened in no way should a team be thrown out for the actions of a number of idiotic fans.

The way Derrytresk club is been portrayed by people on various sites is way OTT IMO. Unfortunately for the club on Sunday some of their so called fans lost the run of themselves and got involved in a brawl which was totally wrong of them. But this club had a few hundred fans at the game who behaved themselves properly yet it's saddening to see some posts on various sites describing the club and their fans in a derogatory manner.

Derrytresk will need to identify the fighting fans to the GAA and reading an article today the club are prepared to co-operate with the GAA on this matter. Their will be possibly a few players that will get suspensions also. However Dromid have questions to answer also and it must be remembered finished the game with 13 players and over half their team got yellow cards.

Scenes like what happened on Sunday are disgraceful and the GAA needs to clamp down on them big time. However Derrytresk should not be thrown out under any circumstances IMO.

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