Ferguson Ariva 120 Users Thread

Irishdudedave · 07-07-2012 1:53pm

Does anybody know any other universal remote codes for the 120?

I have a one for all URC-7130 remote and none of the codes in the manual or online are working for me :mad:

billyfromdublin · 07-07-2012 2:26pm

hi guys will doing a channel rescan remove my FAV list ????

cheers

givecredit · 07-07-2012 2:38pm

billyfromdublin wrote: »

hi guys will doing a channel rescan remove my FAV list ????

cheers

No. It justs adds new channels to the All channel list.

Strawberry HillBilly · 08-07-2012 12:27pm

Sorry if covered earlier - but I am looking to get Football subscription card for next season and with my set up looks like a choice between Al Jazerra or Cyfra+ on 13E.

Can anyone confirm if these subcription cards will clear on the Ariva 120 ?

Tony · 08-07-2012 1:59pm

Cyfra will

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Sorry if covered earlier - but I am looking to get Football subscription card for next season and with my set up looks like a choice between Al Jazerra or Cyfra+ on 13E.

Can anyone confirm if these subcription cards will clear on the Ariva 120 ?

harrys · 09-07-2012 7:56pm

Hi there, hope someone can help.

HD TV works fine on loopthrough from box. Says 64% signal level on Channel 48 from Maghera. "Good" according to TV

On Arriva box, the Saorview channels break up and often pixellate every 10-15 secs making them unwatchable. All connections checked.

On the info bar:

Blue 90% Green (Quality?) 60-90% Yellow varies from 35-85%

Breaks in picture seem to coincide with a green dip down to 60%

Software level V2.15B8 outside antenna

Any ideas?

Tony · 09-07-2012 8:10pm

Disconnect both the loopthrough and the HDMI cable and connect via scart and see does it make any difference to the problem.

harrys wrote: »

Hi there, hope someone can help.

HD TV works fine on loopthrough from box. Says 64% signal level on Channel 48 from Maghera. "Good" according to TV

On Arriva box, the Saorview channels break up and often pixellate every 10-15 secs making them unwatchable. All connections checked.

On the info bar:

Blue 90% Green (Quality?) 60-90% Yellow varies from 35-85%

Breaks in picture seem to coincide with a green dip down to 60%

Software level V2.15B8 outside antenna

Any ideas?

willyb007 · 16-07-2012 5:06pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Sorry if covered earlier - but I am looking to get Football subscription card for next season and with my set up looks like a choice between Al Jazerra or Cyfra+ on 13E.

Can anyone confirm if these subcription cards will clear on the Ariva 120 ?

Yes I will Confirm BOTH cards work, I have been using Cyfra+ and a Viaccess Al Jazeera card in my 120 for over a year now. I do not know if the Irdeto version of the Al Jazeera Card will work in the 120 tho.

iba · 16-07-2012 6:58pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Sorry if covered earlier - but I am looking to get Football subscription card for next season and with my set up looks like a choice between Al Jazerra or Cyfra+ on 13E.

Can anyone confirm if these subcription cards will clear on the Ariva 120 ?

U r aware that Al-Jazeera does not show premier league soccer.

And BTW I use Cfyra bought rom Satskelp

Regards

Iba

Strawberry HillBilly · 16-07-2012 8:38pm

Thanks Iba and willyb007 - looks like the Cyfra+ from Satskelp for me. Getting a little dodgy reception on 13e on an 80cm dish, especially in the evenings - is this normal or do you reckon an alignment issue ? I can't get SuperTennis HD either - would that confirm alignment issue ?

iba · 16-07-2012 9:23pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Thanks Iba and willyb007 - looks like the Cyfra+ from Satskelp for me. Getting a little dodgy reception on 13e on an 80cm dish, especially in the evenings - is this normal or do you reckon an alignment issue ? I can't get SuperTennis HD either - would that confirm alignment issue ?

Your welcome Strawerry,

I have a 1.1m Triax so really cant say but i would have thought that 13 comes in ok on an 80cm dish - but im sure more knowlegeable people than me on other threads can answer u.

Regards

Iba

Tonio · 16-07-2012 9:34pm

iba wrote: »

Your welcome Strawerry,

I have a 1.1m Triax so really cant say but i would have thought that 13 comes in ok on an 80cm dish - but im sure more knowlegeable people than me on other threads can answer u.

Regards

Iba

Comes in loud and clear on an 80cm triax here in Cork.

willyb007 · 16-07-2012 10:20pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Thanks Iba and willyb007 - looks like the Cyfra+ from Satskelp for me. Getting a little dodgy reception on 13e on an 80cm dish, especially in the evenings - is this normal or do you reckon an alignment issue ? I can't get SuperTennis HD either - would that confirm alignment issue ?

No probs pal, I also have a 80 cm dish and with decent quality. However in heavy rain the HD Channels on Cyfra will break up but not to worry cos the SD versions work fine on a 80CM dish even in the heaviest of rain for me atleast.

Also lad dont give up on the Al Jazeera card, exceptional value if your into La Liga, Bundesliga, Eirdivisie, Ligue 1, SPL etc. and at €99 on JSC Cards to buy for a year excellent value & only €69 to renew every year after.

Strawberry HillBilly · 17-07-2012 7:32am

Thanks Willyb007 - can you link where Al Jazerra available at €99 - thought it was way more expensive than that ?

willyb007 · 17-07-2012 2:59pm

Strawberry HillBilly wrote: »

Thanks Willyb007 - can you link where Al Jazerra available at €99 - thought it was way more expensive than that ?

No its good value for the stuff it covers. I have not bought with these, but I am re-newing with them at the weekend & buying another Cyfra Card from Satsklep. Anyways lad here is the link to the card (bear in mind it don't include p&p) http://www.jsc-cards.com/order/buy-al-jazeera-card-1to-8-one-year.html .

If you decide get it elsewhere I bought mine from Tech-Digital last year. I got it through their Ebay shop.

Just Checked JSC Cards there and there is an option for free shipping or €30 courrier service. I know which one id choose!

Villan11 · 18-07-2012 9:53pm

Just finished setting up my 120HD and noticed a lip sync issue, so downloaded latest firmware and added it to USB key. Then quickly upgraded...... That was the problem, i did it so quick that I picked the wrong file and somehow managed to put firmware for my Openbox onto my Ariva. The strange thing is that the box still has some limited functionality, although i have to use my openbox remote. Have tried to update to Ariva firmware but get error saying mismatch.

Doe anyone know how I can force an update??

harrys · 23-07-2012 12:08pm

Tony wrote: »

Disconnect both the loopthrough and the HDMI cable and connect via scart and see does it make any difference to the problem.

Thanks for getting back Tony.

Did that, and tried it with brand new SCART. No change, if anything slightly worse.

Somehow the box is attenuating the signal??

Johnboy1951 · 23-07-2012 7:43pm

harrys wrote: »

Hi there, hope someone can help.

HD TV works fine on loopthrough from box. Says 64% signal level on Channel 48 from Maghera. "Good" according to TV

On Arriva box, the Saorview channels break up and often pixellate every 10-15 secs making them unwatchable. All connections checked.

On the info bar:

Blue 90% Green (Quality?) 60-90% Yellow varies from 35-85%

Breaks in picture seem to coincide with a green dip down to 60%

Software level V2.15B8 outside antenna

Any ideas?

The yellow indicator is the time gone & remaining on the current programme.

If your Quality is varying from 60% to 90% then there would appear to be something the matter with the aerial or its connections.
I have a steady 90% here on the Ariva 120.

The Ariva 120 tuner is likely less sensitive than the TV tuner and so the pic would break up before the TV pic.

STB · 24-07-2012 12:19am

Villan11 wrote: »

Just finished setting up my 120HD and noticed a lip sync issue, so downloaded latest firmware and added it to USB key. Then quickly upgraded...... That was the problem, i did it so quick that I picked the wrong file and somehow managed to put firmware for my Openbox onto my Ariva. The strange thing is that the box still has some limited functionality, although i have to use my openbox remote. Have tried to update to Ariva firmware but get error saying mismatch.

Doe anyone know how I can force an update??

If you have a limited functionality with the openbox remote (same chipset with different key mapping btw), then you might not have to do whats in the second paragraph. Download the proper firmware for the 120 from the ferguson website, load it to a usb key and select "upgrade by USB" in menu, then choose allcode+bootboader, then the file on the usb should be displayed, then click down to start. Let it get to 100%, it should then reboot and you are back on the Ariva software.

If that doesnt work, you need to connect the box to a PC's serial port and the Ariva box's R232 port on back of box with a Null modem cable (about €2 on ebay). You then download the Ariva updater tool from Ferguson's website for that model and load the software abs file from the PC. It will resurrect your box.

They are hard to kill. The Rom is protected on the chip and allows for recovery easily without Jtagging.

livdmg · 24-07-2012 2:58am

Anyone check out "midlands 103" they have something called crunch busters with the ferguson ariva 120 combo for 70 euros.

Johnboy1951 · 24-07-2012 11:48am

livdmg wrote: »

Anyone check out "midlands 103" they have something called crunch busters with the ferguson ariva 120 combo for 70 euros.

A good price indeed ..... €57 + VAT

Their site does weird things in my browsers ..... failed to display properly in Chromium or Firefox ..... eventually got it up in Midori and was met with a message telling me that

"Your browser (Internet Explorer 6) is out of date. It has known security flaws and may not display all features of this or other websites."

Nonetheless I was able to see the offer in Midori but not the other two browsers.

chordtype · 24-07-2012 12:57pm

Possible to tune in the BBC Olympic channels on this?

dulpit · 24-07-2012 1:20pm

chordtype wrote: »

Possible to tune in the BBC Olympic channels on this?

Yup, they'll be coming through FTA so you'll just need to tune them in...

As for that Midlands 103 offer - they have only 2 left if anyone is interested...

chordtype · 24-07-2012 2:21pm

Thanks. Does that include the HD stations?

iba · 24-07-2012 2:39pm

chordtype wrote: »

Thanks. Does that include the HD stations?

A nice list of the HD Stations here:

http://www.satandpcguy.com/Site/2012_london_olympics_uk_tv_bbc_frequencies.php

Johnboy1951 · 24-07-2012 3:02pm

chordtype wrote: »

Thanks. Does that include the HD stations?

This is the tuning list I used for all 24 HD channels

11914 H
12304 H
12441 V
12129 V
12402 V
12422 H

All 29500 .... 4 HD channels per TP.

MenloPete · 25-07-2012 9:45am

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I vaguely remember hearing of this fault before a few years back. It turned out to be a error in the LNB settings. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable here can elaborate.
Mine (different make of box) is set as Universal 9.750/10.600

This was my problem, causing it to fail to tune in some channels - the LNB is set to 9.750/10.550.
When I correct the setting I can tune in all channels, which is grand, but if I upload a channel settings dump file, the setting reverts and I have to remember to change it again.

Anyone know how to set it permanently?

Gerry Wicklow · 25-07-2012 9:50am

Presumably whoever is supplying the dump list has the same problem but doesn't watch them channels to notice the mistake. The original error is probably in the factory presets.

MenloPete · 25-07-2012 9:54am

Perhaps I should have said it's my own dumpfile. I correct the LO setting and auto tune. Then I rearrange everything on the PC to my liking and re-apply it to the receiver, but the LO setting reverts.

daithi_dearg · 25-07-2012 4:04pm

Issues with recording 2 items in a row
Hello,

I'm not able to record 2 things in a row. In future I'll make sure to leave a minute in between recordings but wondering was a bug raised for this or if people see the same thing.

harrys · 01-08-2012 11:56pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

The yellow indicator is the time gone & remaining on the current programme.

If your Quality is varying from 60% to 90% then there would appear to be something the matter with the aerial or its connections.
I have a steady 90% here on the Ariva 120.

The Ariva 120 tuner is likely less sensitive than the TV tuner and so the pic would break up before the TV pic.

Thanks johnboy and Tony.

It was the aerial. Got the one in Aldi set up in the loft and all fine.

Cheers.

Tony · 02-08-2012 8:37am

Glad you got it sorted

harrys wrote: »

Thanks johnboy and Tony.

It was the aerial. Got the one in Aldi set up in the loft and all fine.

Cheers.

scholes · 02-08-2012 5:53pm

Hi Tony,

I was just looking on website and got a ferguson ariva 120 from you a while back. Is the ariva 120 discontinued and is there much difference between the 120 and the 150? Thanks

Tony · 02-08-2012 6:04pm

scholes wrote: »

Hi Tony,

I was just looking on website and got a ferguson ariva 120 from you a while back. Is the ariva 120 discontinued and is there much difference between the 120 and the 150? Thanks

Hi

The 120 is discontinued and replaced by the 150 which has a few extras like "you tube" whan connected to wi fi and the menus look a little better. Other than that its pretty much the same box with a slightly faster processor.

scholes · 02-08-2012 6:36pm

Tony you're a gentleman, thanks for the quick reply ill be onto you soon for a 150. Great service as always.

micks_address · 02-08-2012 7:52pm

hi guys, i have an ariva setup for my parents with a nice channel list at home, will be installing a new box this weekend for them. Is there an easy way to backup the channel list on the existing box and load onto the new one? cheers mick

Tony · 02-08-2012 8:16pm

Yep if both boxes are the same and using the same firmware you can create a dumpfile to a usb key on the box with the channel list and then transfer this to the second box by upgrading using the "userdb" setting

menu-tools-upgrade usb

hope this helps

micks_address wrote: »

hi guys, i have an ariva setup for my parents with a nice channel list at home, will be installing a new box this weekend for them. Is there an easy way to backup the channel list on the existing box and load onto the new one? cheers mick

SteM · 03-08-2012 8:18pm

I picked one of these up a few months ago and it had the channels prescanned. Hooked it up at home in the bedroom and it worked fine but I haven't used it for a month or so. I went to look at the RTE channels today and now they are saying no signal. I have tried rescanning the terrestrial channels automatically but it keeps saying that no programs are available. I live in Tallaght so I guess I should be getting a signal from 3 Rock. Anyone know why I'm not picking up channels now when I could a month ago? I tried the USB tuner I have on my PC and the channels are still coming in on that?

Gerry Wicklow · 03-08-2012 8:36pm

3Rock moved to channel 30 a few weeks back. Try a manual scan. Kippure is also available in parts of Tallaght. Check what freq your PC is getting.

Danda99 · 05-08-2012 7:52pm

Hi Tony

Got two of the Ariva 120s from you a year ago. Haven't updated them at all, but have lost BBC3 & possibly some other channels recently. Should I do your update with channel list - which I think was from April, or should I do the latest June one? (Just want to avoid trawling through every channel myself - I know if I get one re-set correctly I can copy to the other)

Thanks

dodzy · 06-08-2012 9:52am

Danda99 wrote: »

Hi Tony

Got two of the Ariva 120s from you a year ago. Haven't updated them at all, but have lost BBC3 & possibly some other channels recently. Should I do your update with channel list - which I think was from April, or should I do the latest June one? (Just want to avoid trawling through every channel myself - I know if I get one re-set correctly I can copy to the other)

Thanks

Page 15, post #575. That'll sort you out. As a first time updater, have a read of the "how to guide" first. 5 min job

PeterDuggan · 06-08-2012 4:52pm

Like dodzy. I've also lost just BBC3. Can anyone tell me the settings please to retune just BBC3 without having to reinstall everything?

Also is this BBC3 change just a temporary thing related to the extra BBC Olympics channels? Maybe it will come back of it's own accord when they finish?

Gerry Wicklow · 06-08-2012 7:34pm

BBC3
10773 H 22000

intro · 06-08-2012 8:01pm

I have a 120 in the bedroom hooked onto the TV via HDMI.It is updated to the latest firmware and the last channel list posted here All works well. Tried it on an old TV in Donegal this w/end, which has only one scart so is fed through a manual scart switcher to allow the use of DVD and VCR. Had to change the output to 720 to get it to work on the old TV. Two problems:
1. When connected through the scart switcher there is no picture at all. When I feed directly from scart to tv's scart it works ok. Is there any work around for this?
Problem 2. Rescanned the terrestrial channels. Picked up all the channels. When I switched off the 120 and restarted it, the terrestrial channels had disappeared (but satellite channels were fine)Thinking about this now I realise that I had left the "Dublin" channels on it i.e. there were two sets of RTE1 RTE 2 etc., one working one not. I have not had this problem in Dublin so is it the scart lead, not deleting the 1st set of terrestrial channels or some other cause?
I had a search to see if there was anything similar posted but had no luck.Sorry for the long winded post!

Tony · 07-08-2012 10:35pm

Its extremely unlikely that the scart lead is causing channels to be deleted.

intro wrote: »

I have a 120 in the bedroom hooked onto the TV via HDMI.It is updated to the latest firmware and the last channel list posted here All works well.

dodzy · 07-08-2012 10:40pm

Deleted post. Wrong thread.

Tony · 07-08-2012 10:44pm

Eh this is the 120 thread

dodzy wrote: »

Here we go again...another FW release:rolleyes:

1.19B1

Not sure of change log. Link below, just select the 150 combo.

http://www.ferguson-digital.eu/en/download/HD-Satellite-Receivers/

dodzy · 07-08-2012 10:47pm

Tony wrote: »

Eh this is the 120 thread

120/150/250 AAAArrrrgggggghhhhh !!!

I'm losing it now Tony:D

STB · 07-08-2012 10:48pm

intro wrote: »

............ which has only one scart so is fed through a manual scart switcher to allow the use of DVD and VCR. Had to change the output to 720 to get it to work on the old TV. Two problems:
1. When connected through the scart switcher there is no picture at all. When I feed directly from scart to tv's scart it works ok. Is there any work around for this?

The problem and solution is obvious to me. Get rid of the cheap scart switcher.

intro wrote: »

Problem 2. Rescanned the terrestrial channels. Picked up all the channels. When I switched off the 120 and restarted it, the terrestrial channels had disappeared (but satellite channels were fine)Thinking about this now I realise that I had left the "Dublin" channels on it i.e. there were two sets of RTE1 RTE 2 etc., one working one not. I have not had this problem in Dublin so is it the scart lead, not deleting the 1st set of terrestrial channels or some other cause?

You have to manually delete the terrestrial channels you are not using as they are for a different transmitter. OR If you are going to continue to use the box in 2 locations then set up a favourites list, 1 for Dublin Saorview and 1 for Donegal Saorview so as not to confuse yourself.

You can set up favourites list for anything. You do have to read the manual though! Once you get to grips with that, you will be flying. Honestly read the manual.

Tony · 07-08-2012 10:48pm

dodzy wrote: »

I'm losing it now Tony:D

you and me both

Just to warn anyone do not attempt to use 150 firmware on a 120

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