Super Rugby [Super 15] - General Discussion Thread

matthew8 · 04-08-2012 9:43am

Swiwi wrote: »

Sharks should change their tactics then...

What do you mean? The Chiefs are getting away with murder, their 3 should've had a yellow for a clothesline on Kankowski.

Swiwi · 04-08-2012 9:45am

matthew8 wrote: »

What do you mean? The Chiefs are getting away with murder, their 3 should've had a yellow for a clothesline on Kankowski.

Mate, I have been reading all week how the ABs didn't change their tactics in '07, despite Wayne Barnes not penalising France for love or money. No pity from me mate...if the refs not doing his job - adapt

matthew8 · 04-08-2012 9:48am

Swiwi wrote: »

Mate, I have been reading all week how the ABs didn't change their tactics in '07, despite Wayne Barnes not penalising France for love or money. No pity from me mate...if the refs not doing his job - adapt

That's a joke there's no excuse for a referee not penalising clotheslines in front of his own eyes. There's nothing you can do if the opposition is blocking you either.

Swiwi · 04-08-2012 9:53am

matthew8 wrote: »

That's a joke there's no excuse for a referee not penalising clotheslines in front of his own eyes. There's nothing you can do if the opposition is blocking you either.

Last time I looked there are touch judges too. Yes it was high, but it was missed. Won't be the last time either...refs always make 1 or 2 mistakes per game.

Big Nelly · 04-08-2012 9:53am

Chiefs have it now...would of liked to see Sharks win just because Sykes was playing for them:p

Swiwi · 04-08-2012 10:06am

MOTM - I would go with Retallick - immense game in the tight.

endabob1 · 04-08-2012 10:24am

matthew8 wrote: »

Steve Walsh is a joke. Chiefs players blocking Sharks off the ball all over the place.

Indeed, disgraceful performance by Walsh. Never thought the sharks would be able to win 3 on the road on the spin, but Walsh was as one sided as I've seen

Judgement Day · 04-08-2012 10:41am

Regardless of Steve Walsh's performance, the Sharks were never at the races today and the Chiefs were well deserved winners by a mile. Roll on the Rugby Championship!

.ak · 04-08-2012 10:54am

Totally managed to sleep it in. Ugh. Was it a decent match, worth watching a replay?

Kilkenny14 · 04-08-2012 11:24am

.ak wrote: »

Totally managed to sleep it in. Ugh. Was it a decent match, worth watching a replay?

It was a decent game but not worth watching a replay of the whole match - a 5 minute highlight reel would show all of what happened.

matthew8 · 04-08-2012 1:06pm

.ak wrote: »

Totally managed to sleep it in. Ugh. Was it a decent match, worth watching a replay?

Lucky you. Only one team showed up, Sharks looked totally wasted and had awful hands. No point in watching the whole thing.

endabob1 · 04-08-2012 5:05pm

Judgement Day wrote: »

Regardless of Steve Walsh's performance, the Sharks were never at the races today and the Chiefs were well deserved winners by a mile. Roll on the Rugby Championship!

Indeed, the Sharks were out on their feet by the end against the Stormers last weekend, I never thought they would win 3 on the spin in 3 different countries . No excuse for Walsh's performance though, let the Chiefs away with wandering back from offside positions always convieniently in the way of a Sharks player, and the whole tackler rolling away business.....

That said, I still thought the Sharks got their basics wrong, ball retention, set pieces and Michalak had a day to forget

Klunk_NZ · 05-08-2012 12:03am

Chiefs were easily the best team and the result was an accurate reflection of their superiority.

thomond2006 · 16-08-2012 12:43pm

The Southern Kings will replace the Lions next year: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7995821,00.html

PhatPiggins · 16-08-2012 1:07pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

The Southern Kings will replace the Lions next year: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_7995821,00.html

If you thought the Lions super results were pathetic wait till you see how the Kings get on!! They're going to from division two domestic rugby to super rugby to!!! Super Lol.

yimrsg · 16-08-2012 1:22pm

A shame as the Lions played some entertaining rugby probably due to Spencer though there was some discontent with Mitchell. I wonder what will happen with their players as there's a lot of quality youngsters on their books and most European sides will have made their signings already.

LeinsterDub · 16-08-2012 2:21pm

The whole situation is farcical .

thomond2006 · 16-08-2012 4:20pm

Will the better Lions players be able to get a release from their contracts to move to the Kings? Otherwise where are Kings going to get decent players?

matthew8 · 16-08-2012 4:23pm

That's an absolute joke. Johannesburg deserves to have a team as the largest city in South Africa, and the Lions have recently won the currie cup. They would also have some internationals if it wasn't for the idiot coach.

Wexfordboy89 · 19-09-2012 1:25pm

Michael Cheika has been appionted coach of the Waratahs

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12565/8089659/Waratahs-turn-to-Cheika

Winters · 11-10-2012 10:56am

Steven Sykes has signed with the Southern Kings for 2013.

Also Luke Watson is set to be their captain next season. His dad, Cheeky Watson, is the president there. Or was, not sure if he still is.

Its a real messy situation, why introduce relegation? What is preventing there being 6 South African Super Rugby franchises? Is it SARU or SANZAR?

Super Rugby may have good try scoring stats and some big attendances but it still hasnt got as exciting a format as the current Heineken Cup. Of course distances play a huge part, internal as well as international.

Deano7788 · 11-10-2012 11:32am

Winters wrote: »

Steven Sykes has signed with the Southern Kings for 2013.

Also Luke Watson is set to be their captain next season. His dad, Cheeky Watson, is the president there. Or was, not sure if he still is.

Its a real messy situation, why introduce relegation? What is preventing there being 6 South African Super Rugby franchises? Is it SARU or SANZAR?

Super Rugby may have good try scoring stats and some big attendances but it still hasnt got as exciting a format as the current Heineken Cup. Of course distances play a huge part, internal as well as international.

SANZAR wouldn't allow it but SARU had messed it up before that. They had promised the Kings a place before ever approaching SANZAR about increasing the number of SA teams. Because of the conference system there has to be the same number of teams in each conference or it would be unbalanced so they were turned down when they eventually asked. They then had to either introduce relegation or go back on their promise so relegation it is.

Teferi · 11-10-2012 12:17pm

Steven Sykes.

Forgot about him.

CatFromHue · 12-10-2012 8:32am

The Super 15 is unbalanced enough without adding another team. The conference system does make more local derbies but gives the NZ and SA teams a much harder route to the final than the Oz teams. Three of the Oz teams failed to win 5 games last season whereas only one NZ and one SA team couldn't do this.

I'm not hugely familiar with how the relegation is supposed to work in SA but it doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

12-10-2012 8:47am

Winters wrote: »

Steven Sykes has signed with the Southern Kings for 2013.

Also Luke Watson is set to be their captain next season. His dad, Cheeky Watson, is the president there. Or was, not sure if he still is.

Its a real messy situation, why introduce relegation? What is preventing there being 6 South African Super Rugby franchises? Is it SARU or SANZAR?

Super Rugby may have good try scoring stats and some big attendances but it still hasnt got as exciting a format as the current Heineken Cup. Of course distances play a huge part, internal as well as international.

:pac:

Possibly the best name of all time

Deano7788 · 12-10-2012 9:50am

CatFromHue wrote: »

I'm not hugely familiar with how the relegation is supposed to work in SA but it doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Whichever SA team finishes lowest is automatically relegated, so this year the Lions were replaced by the Kings. Next year, the worst team will be replaced by the Lions and so on.

irishbucsfan · 12-10-2012 9:52am

Basically the Lions and the Kings will alternate every other year. Because there's no way you can be good enough to not finish bottom unless you're playing every season!

Deano7788 · 12-10-2012 10:00am

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Basically the Lions and the Kings will alternate every other year. Because there's no way you can be good enough to not finish bottom unless you're playing every season!

Pretty much. I really don't think SA thought this through enough. The Kings actually complained about that exact point when it was announced. They wanted 2 years to bed in.

justsomebloke · 12-10-2012 10:07am

How are the Lions and Kings meant to survive financially doing this?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 12-10-2012 1:03pm

justsomebloke wrote: »

How are the Lions and Kings meant to survive financially doing this?

they'll lose half their squad to the other when relegated maybe

Winters · 12-10-2012 2:39pm

It’s such a ridiculous situation. Introducing relegation to their Super Rugby teams is just going to make two weak teams constantly alternating and never improving.

The new Super Rugby format is confusing. If there are 5 teams in each conference, one team gets a bye each round is that correct?

Swiwi · 16-10-2012 6:51pm

But why the Waratahs, Brian?

BOD flirting with Super Rugby
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8168783,00.html

CIARAN_BOYLE · 16-10-2012 6:59pm

Swiwi wrote: »

But why the Waratahs, Brian?

BOD flirting with Super Rugby
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,16024_8168783,00.html

He won't go because of tax reasons

That said if he goes to the waratahs it will be to link up with Cheika.

Swiwi · 16-10-2012 7:30pm

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He won't go because of tax reasons

That said if he goes to the waratahs it will be to link up with Cheika.

What happens to his tax if he plays S15 for year then returns to see out his career with Leinster?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 16-10-2012 7:37pm

Swiwi wrote: »

What happens to his tax if he plays S15 for year then returns to see out his career with Leinster?

he would be grand as long as he comes back for a full year he would get the full rebate but to be honest I don't see it happening.

He has talked about how he wants to play Lions this year so the S15 season would be pretty much over by the time he finished. If he goes down to play S15 in 2014 and comes back to Ireland to play for 2014/15

He'd be talking about playing having to play till he is 36 and to be honest I don't see him making that comittment at the moment

totallegend · 13-11-2012 11:47am

Sonny-Bill Williams' move to the Sydney Roosters to confirmed; a one-year contract

Timothy Bryce · 19-11-2012 11:39am

Just reading that Quade Cooper has quit the Wallabies to pursue a switch to NRL or go overseas (also talk of following Sunny Bull into the ring :pac:)

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/quade-cooper-quits-the-wallabies-report-20121119-29m36.html

Quade Cooper has reportedly quit Australian rugby after being offered a meagre incentive-based contract.
According to Channel Nine the former Wallabies five-eighth has turned his back on the Australian Rugby Union and the Wallabies and will look to continue his career overseas or switch to rugby league.
Cooper has a Super Rugby contract with Queensland but that agreement is contingent upon a contract with the game’s governing body.
The controversial playmaker has been at odds with the ARU for several months over his comment on the Wallabies set-up, including claims of a ‘toxic’’ environment under coach Robbie Deans.
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Three weeks ago Cooper was hit with a $40,000 fine and a suspended playing ban in a code-of-conduct hearing into his comments.
Reports on Monday of Cooper’s decision to leave Australian rugby behind came after he was only offered an incentive-based contract by the ARU, of the kind usually reserved for international rookies.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/australia-rugby/quade-cooper-quits-the-wallabies-report-20121119-29m36.html#ixzz2CfDRuMeM

The Aussie · 19-11-2012 5:05pm

Quade, dont let the door hit you on the way out.

Swan Curry · 19-11-2012 5:40pm

I know he really didn't help himself,but sometimes,especially during the World Cup,I think the hate he was getting was a bit too much.Some of the booing he got whenever he touched the ball sounded like what you'd expect at a soccer match.

The Aussie · 19-11-2012 5:47pm

Swan Curry wrote: »

Some of the booing he got whenever he touched the ball sounded like what you'd expect at a soccer match.

Agreed, Im not his biggest fan by any stretch of the imagination, i actually think he acted like a bit of a grub on numerous occasions, but that just ended up getting embarrassing at the WC, sounded like something you would hear at some childrens pantomime

Klunk_NZ · 20-11-2012 11:08am

Quade earned every bit of it. Kneeing the captain of the ABs in the head, his moronic tweets encouraging the banter. I did feel sorry for him when he got injured though.

Klunk_NZ · 20-11-2012 11:13am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XRGJpMJDUk&feature=my_liked_videos&list=LLdgzLdaeauMLyJN_RCHr-qg

This is the greatest vid on youtube.

Swiwi · 03-02-2013 9:13am

A few up-and-comers to look out for in S15

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/8257402/Young-guns-set-to-storm-in-Super-Rugby

The Aussie · 03-02-2013 9:29am

Was surprised with Isreal Folau's debut for the Waratahs.
Scored 2 and if he was greedy could have had a hat trick.

The Morman Mercenary could be a handy replacement Drew Mitchell on wing for Australia with the Lions tour coming up.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/rugby-gold/israel-folau-scores-two-tries-in-rugby-union-debut-for-the-nsw-waratahs/story-fn8ouw0e-1226567391094

thomond2006 · 03-02-2013 11:06am

I see Cory Jane is out for the season, that's a shame.

Swiwi · 03-02-2013 11:09am

thomond2006 wrote: »

I see Cory Jane is out for the season, that's a shame.

Yeah, I'm gutted. Would like the Hurricanes to do well. He is NZ's answer to Gilroy

pickarooney · 03-02-2013 12:21pm

In the sense that Carter is your answer to Sexton

Swiwi · 11-02-2013 9:27pm

Juan Smith apparently forced to retire according to PR. In truth, he has been an active player in name only these last 18 months or so. A great player in his prime.

CatFromHue · 11-02-2013 9:31pm

That's fairly sh*tty about Smith.

The Super XV kicks off this weekend with the Rebels hosting the Force and the Brumbies hosting the Reds.

Swiwi · 11-02-2013 9:33pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

That's fairly sh*tty about Smith.

The Super XV kicks off this weekend with the Rebels hosting the Force and the Brumbies hosting the Reds.

Rebels v Force can probably be safely skipped, but the Reds v Brumbies could be OK. In saying that, I won't get too interested until the NZ franchises get under way.

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