Swedish house mafia stabbings (Updated Mod Warning Post #1)

08-07-2012 2:44pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

And it seems drugs was biggest killer second to stabbings

3<0? :S

VEN · 08-07-2012 2:44pm

Varied wrote: »

It only seems to be the acts in the charts that attract these knobs though.

I've gone to plenty of techno, house etc gigs and you never see this happening. It only seems to happen when there's the likes of deadmau5, rhianna and all those knacker magnet music purveyors.

dave clarke, richie hawtin etc can attract their own fair share of **** and knackers too

08-07-2012 2:45pm

One of the guys who died from an OD sought medical attention himself, that sounds very odd.

Collie D · 08-07-2012 2:45pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/phoenix-park-three-males-dead-swedish-house-mafia-overdose-513781-Jul2012/

Thats 3 confirmed dead and Ill bet theres more to come

MCD have alot of explaining to do

This has diaster written all over it

And it seems drugs was biggest killer second to stabbings

This post is almost as bad as the sensationalist ****e in the link.

Only one of those deaths is mentioned as being at the gig. I'm sure two further ODs on any given Saturday in a city of 1.4 million people wouldn't be mentioned in the media but ah sure, f*ck it, we'll lump it in with the one at the gig. Guilt by asociation, it's all MCD's fault..blah, blah, blah, Joe

Second biggest killer compared to stabbings? Got a link to how many actually died from stabbings because I can't find it. :rolleyes:

criticalcritic · 08-07-2012 2:46pm

http://www.thejournal.ie/phoenix-park-three-males-dead-swedish-house-mafia-overdose-513781-Jul2012/

3 dead from overdose

fiacha · 08-07-2012 2:46pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/phoenix-park-three-males-dead-swedish-house-mafia-overdose-513781-Jul2012/

Thats 3 confirmed dead and Ill bet theres more to come

MCD have alot of explaining to do

This has diaster written all over it

And it seems drugs was biggest killer second to stabbings

How can you hold the promoter responsible for people taking drugs ?

I stayed out walking around my estate last night to keep an eye on my elderly neighbors (a lot of them were worried after the hoards of drunken teens messing on their way to the gig).

I chatted to a couple of dozen people on their way home, and they all had a great time there. None had seen violence first hand, but they all had stories to tell about it.

They were all in great form (and knackered from dancing) and there as no hassle from them on their way home.

As usual, all the focus is on the small minority who caused trouble.

I don't want to make light of the deaths and injuries last night, but the same thing happens all over the country every week.

Fair play to the tens of thousands of people who went there yesterday to party and behaved themselves (within reason

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criticalcritic · 08-07-2012 2:47pm

Collie D wrote: »

criticalcritic wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/phoenix-park-three-males-dead-swedish-house-mafia-overdose-513781-Jul2012/

Thats 3 confirmed dead and Ill bet theres more to come

MCD have alot of explaining to do

This has diaster written all over it

And it seems drugs was biggest killer second to stabbings

This post is almost as bad as the sensationalist ****e in the link.

Only one of those deaths is mentioned as being at the gig. I'm sure two further ODs on any given Saturday in a city of 1.4 million people wouldn't be mentioned in the media but ah sure, f*ck it, we'll lump it in with the one at the gig. Guilt by asociation, it's all MCD's fault..blah, blah, blah, Joe

Second biggest killer compared to stabbings? Got a link to how many actually died from stabbings because I can't find it. :rolleyes:

Well you go enjoy yourself with your fellow revellers who like to stab people and take rat poisin

Green Diesel · 08-07-2012 2:48pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

Well you go enjoy yourself with your fellow revellers who like to stab people and take rat poisin

Wow.

mikom · 08-07-2012 2:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

One of the guys who died from an OD sought medical attention himself, that sounds very odd.

Probably a regretted suicide attempt with prescription drugs in some cosy flat.

But it will probably be put down to those darn druggies........

VEN · 08-07-2012 2:51pm

token101 wrote: »

Stereotyping's class! Next you'll be telling us that all internet users are virgins with bad acne.

i'd say SHM, Pitbull, Snoop, all that dirt etc appeals to a lot of young people, good and bad but... particularly appealing to... KNACKERS!!!

token101 · 08-07-2012 2:51pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

I understand what you mean and while I do agree....

But what I mean is.... well here is an example. Lets take avoiding a kip of a pub. You know scumbags will be there. Fights or s*it happening is likely. I would avoid that pub and go somewhere else.

I worked a good few gigs with Sword Security and maybe thats just put me off gigs. People off their face drunk or high. People just looking to have fights. The amount of girls I've seen just trip over themselves. Scumbag shapers. The whole thing is just off-putting.

Thats why for me, looking at the concert on the surface. Why the hell go you know.

I can go to a different pub pr have cans at my house, but bands only play at certain times and at certain places. You don't have the luxury of inviting them to your back garden to play live. So why should I be put off from something that I would really like to see, and in the case of SHM may never see again, because of the potential for problems?

There's no possible way of ever preventing something like this other than breathalysing/ urine tests at the gates, which I'd imagine is probably not going to happen. I know three of my friends went there last night and had no problems. The people who were stabbed were just victims of bad luck, just like that journalist who happened to be in the wrong street at the wrong time a few weeks back. It's unfortunate fact of life; it doesn't mean that all dance gigs are dangerous and it doesn't mean that everyone who goes is scum.

dsmythy · 08-07-2012 2:52pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

Well you go enjoy yourself with your fellow revellers who like to stab people and take rat poisin

All 3 of them

Collie D · 08-07-2012 2:54pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

Well you go enjoy yourself with your fellow revellers who like to stab people and take rat poisin

I'm getting enough enjoyment from your bizarre posts but thanks

kegzmc · 08-07-2012 2:54pm

1210m5g wrote: »

I think the UK is just as bad for scumbags but i'm just curious as to why dance music events in Ireland seem to attract them like flies to a ****e.

I agree with you. Uk is full of scumbags. Went to a takida gig last year and the knackers were stuck to me like sh1te to a blanket.

Tombi! · 08-07-2012 2:55pm

kegzmc wrote: »

I agree with you. Uk is full of scumbags. Went to a takida gig last year and the knackers were stuck to me like sh1te to a blanket.

Maybe it was just you attracting your friends?

Paparazzo · 08-07-2012 2:56pm

You know you're getting old when 50,000 people go to a concert of some band you never heard of

token101 · 08-07-2012 2:57pm

VEN wrote: »

i'd say SHM, Pitbull, Snoop, all that dirt etc appeals to a lot of young people, good and bad but... particularly appealing to... KNACKERS!!!

Or to put it another way, Pop music is very, wait for it, popular and as such will have a higher proportion of 'knackers' due to the law of averages. All the other tragedies earlier, they involved the Stones, The Who and Limp Bizkit. Genres are usually irrelevant.

Ideo · 08-07-2012 2:57pm

there was a clip on youtube called 'idiot on drugs' - it seems to b taken down now, any one see it?

Oranage2 · 08-07-2012 2:58pm

token101 wrote: »

Stereotyping's class! Next you'll be telling us that all internet users are virgins with bad acne.

There's no words for how stupid this is.

Say what you want but I've worked many years at concerts/festivals as well as been and there's only ever trouble when there's some 'dance' act on. The type of music attracts pill popping scum that like to carry knives.

criticalcritic · 08-07-2012 2:58pm

On a humourous note a bomb could have been dropped on the Park last night

It would have massively dropped the unemployment rate

08-07-2012 2:59pm

mikom wrote: »

Probably a regretted suicide attempt with prescription drugs in some cosy flat.

But it will probably be put down to those darn druggies........

It's the one that was confirmed at the gig actually. But let's not let that get in the way.

Sunnyisland · 08-07-2012 3:00pm

critical critic wrote: »

On a humorous note a bomb could have been dropped on the Park last night

It would have massively dropped the unemployment rate

True as I heard the FG/lab party where meeting in Farmleigh

BillyMitchel · 08-07-2012 3:00pm

Zascar wrote: »

Apparently this is from last night but not confirmed. Totally NSFW or children or anyone really: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150943704707986&set=a.374471682985.156529.294495217985&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf -

Lucky bastard! Wish I knew her..

08-07-2012 3:01pm

Ideo wrote: »

there was a clip on youtube called 'idiot on drugs' - it seems to b taken down now, any one see it?

Just a lad pilled off his chops.

Oranage2 wrote: »

Say what you want but I've worked many years at concerts/festivals as well as been and there's only ever trouble when there's some 'dance' act on. The type of music attracts pill popping scum that like to carry knives.

I've been to a fair few dance gigs and events and it's exceedingly easy to spot the handful of people who are drunk, they're the one everyone avoids.

Chain_reaction · 08-07-2012 3:01pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

Say what you want but I've worked many years at concerts/festivals as well as been and there's only ever trouble when there's some Shite 'dance' act on. The type of music attracts pill popping scum that like to carry knives.

There.

Riesen_Meal · 08-07-2012 3:01pm

It's scumbags like this that give Dance Music Gigs a bad name, unfortunately SHM is what the kids are all about nowadays and an event like this was always gonna be trouble-

MCD have a habit of booking absolute knacker fests - between **** rap gigs that end up in riots or the annual poxegen millup in Kildare, they are up there...

I did happen to go to the Roses on Thursday and I saw **** all trouble from a generally older crowd, I'm sure there was incidents at it but I didn't see any personally...

mikom · 08-07-2012 3:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's the one that was confirmed at the gig actually. But let's not let that get in the way.

And....

The two other males died later in the night from overdoses but it is not known whether or not they had attended the concert in the Phoenix Park.
http://www.thejournal.ie/phoenix-park-three-males-dead-swedish-house-mafia-overdose-513781-Jul2012/

08-07-2012 3:02pm

Why are people blaming drugs? In how many other countries can you guide yourself to a gig by following the trail of passed-out-drunk kids?

08-07-2012 3:03pm

mikom wrote: »

And....

And... again, the one at the gig sought medical attention. It doesn't sound like a junk overdose to me and it's a little bit concerning.

flutterflye · 08-07-2012 3:03pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Why are people blaming drugs? In how many other countries can you guide yourself to a gig by following the trail of passed-out-drunk kids?

Eh... the 3 supposedly dead due to drug overdoses would probably be the reason!

LeftFull · 08-07-2012 3:03pm

This absolutely sickens me. These gigs are well known for being horrible places to be and it was clear from the outset that this was going to go south very quickly. It was the same at Deadmau5 a year or two ago, fights everywhere. It's just the kind of crowd this popularized house/dubstep/whatever music attracts. I've been all over the country at dj's like Seth Troxler, Maya Jane Coles, Joris Voorn etc and anyone who is into that side of house music know that these are some of the best and safest nights they have ever been to. These kind of things are giving dance music a bad name.

My sympathies are with anyone who was affected by the events last night.

08-07-2012 3:04pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Why are people blaming drugs? In how many other countries can you guide yourself to a gig by following the trail of passed-out-drunk kids?

People like to blame things they don't do for everything. If someone drinks then they don't like to admit that drink is a massive problem, easier to blame those evil people who do something else.

08-07-2012 3:04pm

Fieldog wrote: »

It's scumbags like this that give Dance Music Gigs a bad name, unfortunately SHM is what the kids are all about nowadays and an event like this was always gonna be trouble-

MCD have a habit of booking absolute knacker fests - between **** rap gigs that end up in riots or the annual poxegen millup in Kildare, they are up there...

I did happen to go to the Roses on Thursday and I saw **** all trouble from a generally older crowd, I'm sure there was incidents at it but I didn't see any personally...

The difference being that the older crowd would have been less accepting of this type of behaviour from the get-go making such shenanigans much less likely to begin en-masse.

When it's all kids, the security and supervision is supposed to be provided by the adults who eh, ye know, organised it.

08-07-2012 3:05pm

flutterflye wrote: »

Eh... the 3 supposedly dead due to drug overdoses would probably be the reason!

People are conflating things quite a bit. One of the 3 ODs is confirmed as being at the gig and people are deciding that drugs are to blame for the stabbings as well.

08-07-2012 3:05pm

flutterflye wrote: »

Eh... the 3 supposedly dead due to drug overdoses would probably be the reason!

How many people did these 3 overdosers attack then? I couldn't give a crap if someone wants to pop e's until they're in a coma - it's when someone is stumbling towards me with a knife that I would draw the line.

Pov06 · 08-07-2012 3:06pm

Not sure if this was posted, but...

WARNING, OVER 18's ONLY!

Melion · 08-07-2012 3:06pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

On a humourous note a bomb could have been dropped on the Park last night

It would have massively dropped the unemployment rate

Might need to check up the meaning of humorous when you get the chance

mikom · 08-07-2012 3:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And... again, the one at the gig sought medical attention. It doesn't sound like a junk overdose to me and it's a little bit concerning.

I don't know what we are debating here to be honest.

If it was an overdose due to a certain drug type/quantity then the information should be released for the publics safety.

Melion · 08-07-2012 3:07pm

Pov06 wrote: »

Not sure if this was posted, but...

WARNING, OVER 18's ONLY!

Can we put it in the title that this pic and the one of the couple riding are from T In The Park?

anhedonia · 08-07-2012 3:07pm

token101 wrote: »

I've not read the whole thread, but I'm sure there's some gob****e here just to say it's the fault of trance/dance music.

Id say its way more Trance's fault than any decent dance music like prog or deep house.

Trance really brings out the E-tard in people.

Thepredator · 08-07-2012 3:07pm

Buttonftw wrote: »

One of the guys who died from an OD sought medical attention himself, that sounds very odd.

They'll often stagger into the medical tents at these kinds of gigs and complain of being breathless or having palpitations etc and it's usually because they took not one or two E tablets but 5,6,7 or they took a 'bit of speed and a couple of pills' I remember a fella telling me before that he took twenty cos they were '****e' no need to say what his ECG looked like!

Real Life · 08-07-2012 3:08pm

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Why are people blaming drugs? In how many other countries can you guide yourself to a gig by following the trail of passed-out-drunk kids?

people are blaming drugs because of ignorance. they dont know anything about drugs because they havent tried them so it must be the drugs that causes the trouble, not the drink anyway because then they would also be users of this substance like the troublemakers.
people in this thread have been blaming pills and even weed for the carry on, clearly they dont know what they do.

mikom · 08-07-2012 3:08pm

flutterflye wrote: »

Eh... the 3 supposedly dead due to drug overdoses would probably be the reason!

Were they the ones which done the stabbings guv'ner?

MagicSean · 08-07-2012 3:10pm

criticalcritic wrote: »

On a humourous note a bomb could have been dropped on the Park last night

It would have massively dropped the unemployment rate

And the crime rate, social welfare claimants, prison population and overall public order problems.

Tombi! · 08-07-2012 3:11pm

Real Life wrote: »

people are blaming drugs because of ignorance. they dont know anything about drugs because they havent tried them so it must be the drugs that causes the trouble, not the drink anyway because then they would also be users of this substance like the troublemakers.
people in this thread have been blaming pills and even weed for the carry on, clearly they dont know what they do.

I don't want to start an argument but if you honestly are trying to say drugs aren't at fault, you're insane.

Sure, alcohol is at fault. But it's at fault along with drugs and general scumbag actions.

You can't just say "nope, it was all the alcohol, the drugs didn't matter at all".

Collie D · 08-07-2012 3:12pm

MagicSean wrote: »

And the crime rate, social welfare claimants, prison population and overall public order problems.

Oh, just f*ck off! 45,000 there last night. I'm sure the vast majority were decent kids trying to have a good night.

08-07-2012 3:13pm

mikom wrote: »

I don't know what we are debating here to be honest.
If it was an overdose due to a certain drug type/quantity then the information should be released for the publics safety.

I said that the one at the gig was concerning because the guy who died sought medical attention. The only kind of "OD" involving illegal drugs that would be like that is something that there should be massive warnings about. Maybe the other 2 are unrelated but that one is a real headscratcher and if it's what I'm thinking there should be a warning put out. I think the body's unclaimed so that may be delaying things.

Tombi! · 08-07-2012 3:13pm

MagicSean wrote: »

And the crime rate, social welfare claimants, prison population and overall public order problems.

So... the population of prision are allowed to attent concerts now?
I might have to go to the Joy.

Intensive Care Bear · 08-07-2012 3:14pm

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I don't want to start an argument but if you honestly are trying to say drugs aren't at fault, you're insane.

Sure, alcohol is at fault. But it's at fault along with drugs and general scumbag actions.

You can't just say "nope, it was all the alcohol, the drugs didn't matter at all".

I believe scumbags were at fault

MagicSean · 08-07-2012 3:14pm

Collie D wrote: »

Oh, just f*ck off! 45,000 there last night. I'm sure the vast majority were decent kids trying to have a good night.

Where you there?

Swedish house mafia stabbings (Updated Mod Warning Post #1)

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