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UFC/MMA etc crossover Thread *Spoilers for latest show*

  • 29-01-2012 4:48am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭


    UFC was a bit meh tonite. Evans easily handled Davis which was predictable. Sonnen's promo after the match must of been hard to watch for mma diehards cause it made me cringe at how lame and dated it was. I thought Bisping won the first two rounds but when it went to decision I wasn't shocked at who got the decision (30-27 my arse). Maia vs Weidmann was such a chore to watch. Jon Jones is such a arrogant prick that I turned it off when he was waving his wand at the end of the show.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    R.I.P UFC. Surely the end of MMA as we know it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    I'm sorry for Spoiling the UFC fites but if anyone couldn't predict last nites results you must not watch it much. Ufc were practically advertising the title fights before the contender fights even happened. Don't think its a spoiler calling Jon Jones a smug prick


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,600 ✭✭✭✭CMpunked


    GTR63 wrote: »
    I'm sorry for Spoiling the UFC fites but if anyone couldn't predict last nites results you must not watch it much. Ufc were practically advertising the title fights before the contender fights even happened. Don't think its a spoiler calling Jon Jones a smug prick

    i dont watch UFC, other than the odd big fights.
    But could there be an ever so slight chance that ufc is predetermined in some sense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Split this off from the Off-Topic thread. There are shows practically every week so there's always something to talk about, and the chances of getting results spoiled drops to zero (on pwboards anyway :P)

    I'll catch yesterday's UFC at some point, just to see Sonnen fight. He's awesome on the mic. Shame WWE wouldn't let CM Punk walk him to the ring. Maybe if the news never got out (or at least until the day of) he could've done it. Even awesomer would be if the next night (Rumble) Sonnen walked Punk to the ring for his match! They're both straight edge, right?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    CMpunked wrote: »
    i dont watch UFC, other than the odd big fights.
    But could there be an ever so slight chance that ufc is predetermined in some sense?

    No but lets put it this way UFC likes everything to fall into place for them so it doesn't give them a headache. It would of made more sense to do Evans vs Henderson last nite cause even if Davis won last nite(VERY unlikely) he wouldn't be getting a shot. If Evans lost Hendo was getting the shot. Personally I thought Bisping beat Sonnen in the first two rounds last nite(even Rogan said he felt Chael had to finish him* in the 3rd to win the fight) he didn't but Sonnen got a strange unanimous decision win.

    *Sonnen finishing someone LOL


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Quite a mixed nite of fites. Enjoyed Werdum vs Big Country and Diaz vs Condit. Diaz' childish post fight interview was a real sight. I don't need this **** indeed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    SOMEONE THINK OF THE BUYRATES.

    Kind of pleased Diaz lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Diaz is sooooooooooooooooooooooo whacky and craaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzy


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Diaz is sooooooooooooooooooooooo whacky and craaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzy


    He has that cabbage class cred


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Complete GEEK~! for being such a sore loser


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Diaz is sooooooooooooooooooooooo whacky and craaaaaaaaaaaaazzzzzzzy

    Your mistaking him for Balotelli who at times is a loveable scamp.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    SLAMPAGE.gif

    Not even a two count


  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    rovert wrote: »

    His arm bent at a crazy angle there. He said he was out for a few seconds.
    Rampage is pretty much burned out though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Watched most of UFC in Japan tonite,bar the main event. Couldn't of been bothered watching Raw when I had this to catch up on. Can't believe that Boetsh ko'd Okami and that Mark Hunt ran through Kongo that easily, I reckon UFC will have Hunt fight Big Country next. Have to say Rampage was poor, he looked soft(+ missed weight) and Hendo was right all he was there for was to pick up his cheque. I expected him to lose beforehand and then retire but he'll stick around in the stagnant 205lb division that badly needs a injection of youth and hunger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    What's the latest on the Brazil stadium show? I heard for a long time that it was to be held in the Morumbi, then recently I've heard it's going to be moved to the Pacembu. Morumbi is twice as big as Pacembu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    The venue hasn't been announced offically. But Dana has said that it is June in Sau Paulo.
    Pacembu, including pitch seating would still be the second biggest UFC event ever. Maybe even the biggest


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    New series of TUF is starting tonite on espn at 2 am. Think this Season all the fights are live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,951 ✭✭✭Cherry_Cola


    GTR63 wrote: »
    New series of TUF is starting tonite on espn at 2 am. Think this Season all the fights are live.

    Yeah can't wait. 16 1 round fights in the first episode, should be some decent KO's!

    Ha Todd Grisham hosting MMA Live, was wondering where he went.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Yeah can't wait. 16 1 round fights in the first episode, should be some decent KO's!

    Ha Todd Grisham hosting MMA Live, was wondering where he went.

    Yeah and Pat Miletich with a bad dye job. Dana White looks a LOT like Steve Stone who used to play for Nottingham Forest. Where is the Ultimate Fighterrrrrrr voiceover guy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    As expected, two long-awaited
    rematches will co- headline the
    UFC's return to Brazil. Officials today announced that UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva will rematch Chael Sonnen, and "The Ultimate Fighter: Brazil" coaches
    Wanderlei Silva and Vitor Belfort also
    will meet again at UFC 147.
    UFC 147 takes place June 23 at Joao
    Havelange Stadium in Rio de Janeiro. It's expected to set a new UFC record attendance.
    This Evans vs Jones, Mir vs Velasquez & Overeem vs Cigano is something to look forward to & makes up for the rubbish trilogy rubber match between Ortiz vs Griffin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭Charisteas


    GTR63 wrote: »
    UFC 147 takes place June 23 at Joao
    Havelange Stadium in Rio de Janeiro. It's expected to set a new UFC record attendance.

    Gorgeous stadium, though Morumbi is almost twice as big and would have easily accommodated 100,000+. Why did they switch cities from Sao Paulo to Rio?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Charisteas wrote: »
    Gorgeous stadium, though Morumbi is almost twice as big and would have easily accommodated 100,000+. Why did they switch cities from Sao Paulo to Rio?

    I think it was licensing issue. Not licensing an MMA event (obviously) but rather an event that large, late at night etc.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,855 ✭✭✭Charlie Haughy


    Overeem's a fúcking idiot, but it was only a matter of time till he was caught.

    Can see him getting cut soon, Dana isn't pleased about it, to put it mildly.

    Was really looking forward to the fight and all :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Brock would have been in like Flynn if he stayed on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 467 ✭✭Alaska1


    Overeem's a fúcking idiot, but it was only a matter of time till he was caught.

    Can see him getting cut soon, Dana isn't pleased about it, to put it mildly.

    Was really looking forward to the fight and all :(

    What happened ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭montyrebel


    Alaska1 wrote: »
    What happened ?

    he didnt pass a drug test


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Alaska1 wrote: »
    What happened ?

    Overeem failed a drug test, due to elevated levels of testosterone. I hate the way Dana white brings **** like this back to him "oh shît like this always happens to me". What age is he 8? He must be to wear those dickhouse shirts. Looking at Overeem you know he ain't legit he is hardly built from Marble for fúck sake. Rovert is right they'd be pulling up Lesnar off the couch if he'd of known this sooner. Wonder does Dana regret the endorsment now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Who else could they replace overeem with, or is the ppv too close for someone to take the fight?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,651 ✭✭✭stiffler123


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Who else could they replace overeem with, or is the ppv too close for someone to take the fight?

    Frank Mir probably deserves the shot. Werdum and Mark Hunt are options too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    jaykhunter wrote: »
    Who else could they replace overeem with, or is the ppv too close for someone to take the fight?

    Mir or Cain.

    Mir very quickly set the bandwagon off:
    I would be excited if given the opportunity to compete for the UFC's heavyweight title at UFC 146 if the reports released earlier today regarding Alistair Overeem failing his 'A' sample drug test are true.

    I have been fortunate to be able to fight in the UFC for more than a decade, and it is a dream of mine to become the first three-time heavyweight champion in the UFC. Being able to fight Junior Dos Santos would put me one step closer to that dream.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Being able to fight Junior Dos Santos would put me one step closer to that dream.

    It would alrite Frank cause if Old Nog rocked you, Cigano would knock you out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I think it's funny that people posting here think that Brock would of gotten a shot here. 0% chance it was going to Brock after 2 losses
    Mir is prob going to get it. He'll be replaced with Werdum or Silva vrs Cain.
    Also no chance Hunt is getting it either


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think it's funny that people posting here think that Brock would of gotten a shot here. 0% chance it was going to Brock after 2 losses
    Mir is prob going to get it. He'll be replaced with Werdum or Silva vrs Cain.
    Also no chance Hunt is getting it either

    One loss Overeem is a cheat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    rovert wrote: »
    One loss Overeem is a cheat

    He passed the scheduled and 2 random drug tests before the match though :confused:

    He is a cheat now (according to the 'A' sample at least), he wasn't a cheat then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Mellor wrote: »
    I think it's funny that people posting here think that Brock would of gotten a shot here. 0% chance it was going to Brock after 2 losses
    Mir is prob going to get it. He'll be replaced with Werdum or Silva vrs Cain.
    Also no chance Hunt is getting it either

    Yeah no chance Hunt will get it. But UFC have given shots to fighters before who don't deserve it like Machida comes to mind, he beat Couture but before that lost to Shogun(some would say twice) & Rampage before that. UFC wouldn't say no to another Lesnar pay day if they had a opportunity like this where a fighter who won a no.1 contender fight was caught cheating.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Leeg17 wrote: »
    He passed the scheduled and 2 random drug tests before the match though :confused:

    He is a cheat now (according to the 'A' sample at least), he wasn't a cheat then.

    His career over the past number of years needs to be called into question.

    Overeem is on another level when it comes to drug testing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    rovert wrote: »
    His career over the past number of years needs to be called into question.

    Overeem is on another level when it comes to drug testing.

    Just because he got caught for cheating now doesn't necessarily mean that he's always been cheating (not to say it hasn't either iykwim).

    It's unfortunate, but hopefully it'll shock a few people into 1) Not starting on PEDs and 2) Making people currently on PEDs realise that they're not invincible


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Will Fedor fight former WWE star?



    MMAjunkie.com is reporting that Bobby Lashley is under consideration to fight Fedor Emelianenko on 6/21 in St. Petersburg, Russia on an M-1 Global event.

    Lashley has been talked about for Emelianenko in the past, including being under consideration to face him on the Affliction show that ended up not happening when Josh Barnett failed his steroid test a few years back.

    Fair ****s to him but yep Bobby is going to get mauled


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    I hope Lashley's improved b/c the fights i've seen he's had a rough enough time with supposed tin cans. I'm sure the payoff will be great though so it's all gravy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    rovert wrote: »
    One loss Overeem is a cheat
    He tested fine both before and after the fight. I'm not saying he wasn't using at the time.
    But that result is staying as a loss. He looked so poor that claiming it wasn't a loss would be embarrassing.
    GTR63 wrote: »
    Yeah no chance Hunt will get it. But UFC have given shots to fighters before who don't deserve it like Machida comes to mind, he beat Couture but before that lost to Shogun(some would say twice) & Rampage before that. UFC wouldn't say no to another Lesnar pay day if they had a opportunity like this where a fighter who won a no.1 contender fight was caught cheating.

    Machida got the shot as Evans was out and there was nobody else availible.
    He was still one of the better LHWs regardless of his losses.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    Went to put on the UFC & the French League Cup final is on & into extra time. FFS espn.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    After watching the countdown show. I REALLY want to see Evans floor UFC goldenboy Jones.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Mixed
    Martial
    Archie



    Time mark: 2.28


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Leeg17 wrote: »
    Just because he got caught for cheating now doesn't necessarily mean that he's always been cheating (not to say it hasn't either iykwim).

    Overeemtimeline.jpg

    the lads on mma uncensored were talking about this last week and asking "what workout can make your head expand so much" :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    My boy D.Meltzer after leaving Yahoo Sports jumped today to the respected high end Grantland site today. His first column is all about the Overeem insanity.

    http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7829692/will-alistair-overeem-rule-ufc-#8212-bring-down


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,127 ✭✭✭✭Leeg17


    rossie1977 wrote: »

    the lads on mma uncensored were talking about this last week and asking "what workout can make your head expand so much" :D

    That proves nothing about illegal substance abuse to be fair.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Lashley in a clubbering scrap in India



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Dana White completed his transition into Vince McMahon/Eric Bischoff overnight attacking my man big Dave Meltzer in a bizarre rant.



    Why the crack about Dave was unfair:
    And to address his attack on Meltzer regarding Yahoo!, it's not as if Meltzer was "fired" from Yahoo! because of a lack of quality or for his abilities in the realm of business advice. His Wrestling Observer newsletter has been a highly successful venture for decades. Yahoo! decided not put as much of their resources into covering MMA as they had been doing, and decided not to pay Meltzer what he would have rightfully felt he was owed. And in the time since Meltzer has left, the CEO that made those decisions at Yahoo! has lost his job as well. It's not something that has any bearing on the situation, but White uses it here as an attack. This was another in a long line of reactionary responses from White that distorts things on this front, while ignoring some of the reason why criticism is being levied in the first place.

    http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/UFC_2/article_13291.shtml

    Dave Meltzer's own comment on it:
    Here's all I want to say.

    Dana called me and told me what he was going to do ahead of time saying he didn't want to blindside me. He was pissed at the article in last week's Observer and if he's pissed he doesn't hold it in. And I've got no issue with that or with him. I wish he hadn't brought up the Yahoo thing just because it brings sympathy to me that I don't want and that it probably does him no benefit to the outside world to be doing. It appears he's kicking a guy when he's down and I'm not down, so it didn't bother me, but to the outside world, I don't know how it comes across.

    Rather than rallying around me or saying Dana's turning into Eric or Vince, just read the article. If you think I wasn't fair and presenting both sides of the story, then he's right to be mad. If you think I was fair, then that's cool. Any discussions should be about the points in the article because if anyone thinks I'm mad at him, well, that's the furthest thing from the case.

    As far as I'm concerned, I thought the article was fair. He didn't. We've disagreed before and agree far more than we disagree when it comes to the product.

    Those who do not read history are doomed to repeat it. Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of their predecessors are destined to repeat them. :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 991 ✭✭✭Digitalism


    i love dana's rants. Never fails to entertain.

    He burned meltzer pretty bad with that final line also I must say.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Digitalism wrote: »
    He burned meltzer pretty bad with that final line also I must say.

    But it isnt true. Dave's department were beating their targets. There was no way for Dave save his job other than become CEO. I dont think he would have the time to do that and get the Observer out Wednesday. :P


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