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MurdyWurdy wrote: »Ha - just to be different, I'm having a boy!
It is reassuring that the swimmers can live up to 5 days though, if you find it hard to tell when you're ovulating. I would never have believed that until the midwife told me. If you knew that when you were younger and trying to avoid getting pregnant it'd really freak you out!
This is interesting as if what the nurse told you is true, and your husband's sperm lasted for 5 days and you're having a boy - then your experience directly contradicts Shettle's method Murdy Wurdy! I really, really want a boy so I have been reading up about this stuff. The Y (boy making) sperm are supposed to be faster swimmers but don't last as long, whereas the X (girl making) sperm are the ones that are supposed to be able to last up til 5 days.0 -
This is interesting as if what the nurse told you is true, and your husband's sperm lasted for 5 days and you're having a boy - then your experience directly contradicts Shettle's method Murdy Wurdy! I really, really want a boy so I have been reading up about this stuff. The Y (boy making) sperm are supposed to be faster swimmers but don't last as long, whereas the X (girl making) sperm are the ones that are supposed to be able to last up til 5 days.
Interesting! Well, I'm due in 5 weeks so I'll be able to tell you soon if it's def a boy! We're fairly sure though from the scans. Will also be I interesting to see when I go into labour. I.e. early or late
My due date should be 16th June based on the date of my LMP. It was our first month of trying so even though my cycle is irregular we did the deed when I would have been ovulating if I was having a normal 28 day cycle (which i rarely do) just to see what happened. Hubby was then away so I know exactly when we conceived but 3 scans have shown my due date to be a week later than it should be (it's now 24th June) so The hosp think I must have ovulated and conceived later. It's really weird. My hubby could be getting suspicious if he thinks about if too much!
This stuff is all really interesting, I wonder how accurate that method is, would be fascinating to see the results
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Aunt Flo has arrived......good and bad news this cycle.
The bad news was that I didn't ovulate, the good news is that my cycle was 19 days long. After the last three cycles (15d, 16d, 16d) looks like they might be getting longer - fingers crossed!
After ovulating last cycle for the first time ever, I naively thought 'oh that's it now, I'm going to ovulate every cycle from now on' but alas it seems that is not the case.
At least it happened once, and I know the signs to look out for now. When it happened last cycle I had a pain in my side for a few hours in the morning, lots of ewcm and 2 lines on the OPKs. This cycle: I had none of those three.
Fingers crossed for this cycle
Good news that they are getting longer - well as good news as it can be xxx
Another thing I notice, when I am coming up to ovulation, I get really tired. I am CD 11 now, I am on Chlomid and I have been ovulating on CD 14, and I can already feel the tiredness starting and the thinning of the mucus!!! Looks likes its time to get busy
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Hi Penny Dreadful, go with the OPKs as opposed to the Pink Pad app. The pink pad app only makes an assumption as to when you are likely to ovulate based on your cycle dates (i.e. if you don't tinker with the settings it'll default to ovulation on day 14 of a 28 day cycle). Whereas the OPK will tell you when you actually ovulate so is far more reliable.
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I'm very confused as to the above. I came off the Pill in December (end of) and my cycle seems to have established itself pretty much over the last 2 -3 months. I didn't get pregnant but neither did we have "targeted" sex for want to a better phrase.
My husband and myself decided that this month we'd do it all according to the ap suggestions, etc. So as mentioned in an earlier post the flowers are blooming messages came from the Pink Pad (and other 2 aps) and we had sex. As an add on I also used the OPK that I bought on Amazon just to be sure that I was actually ovulating as per the predictions of the ap.
The kit I got was a set of dip sticks for urine so you don't have to be a genius to use them. Pee in a cup, stick the stick into it and let the lines appear or not.
The test line appears as it should in a dark pink and the ovulation line while darker now than earlier this month is still not the same shade as the test line nor is it darker which would be good.
Now I am on CD 20 and according to the ap my next period is due on June 5th yet it looks as though I haven't ovulated?
I know the aps are a general guide and operate based on the info that I input but that info is based on what my body is doing.
This is all rather confusing.
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I'm very confused as to the above. I came off the Pill in December (end of) and my cycle seems to have established itself pretty much over the last 2 -3 months. I didn't get pregnant but neither did we have "targeted" sex for want to a better phrase.
My husband and myself decided that this month we'd do it all according to the ap suggestions, etc. So as mentioned in an earlier post the flowers are blooming messages came from the Pink Pad (and other 2 aps) and we had sex. As an add on I also used the OPK that I bought on Amazon just to be sure that I was actually ovulating as per the predictions of the ap.
The kit I got was a set of dip sticks for urine so you don't have to be a genius to use them. Pee in a cup, stick the stick into it and let the lines appear or not.
The test line appears as it should in a dark pink and the ovulation line while darker now than earlier this month is still not the same shade as the test line nor is it darker which would be good.
Now I am on CD 20 and according to the ap my next period is due on June 5th yet it looks as though I haven't ovulated?
I know the aps are a general guide and operate based on the info that I input but that info is based on what my body is doing.
This is all rather confusing.
My last cycle was the only time I used opks. I got them because I was annoyed that I thought I didn't ovulate the previous cycle(based on cm, twinges etc) Think they were ones mentioned on this thread. Sound like the ones you are using. Anyway, I started using them quite early on in the cycle because I am prone to erratic and lengthy cycles. For most of the cycle I got no second line whatsoever, then, when my cm started to change I started to get a second line. It was nowhere near as dark for a few days and then one day it almost looked as dark as the test line and from there got lighter over a day or two. I wasn't entirely sure I ovulated because the instructions said it had to be as dark if not darker. I had decided to buy some more expensive/easier to read ones for the next cycle. Thankfully there was no next cycle. Got my positive even though I couldn't really judge from the opk whether I had ovulated.0 -
Penny Dreadful,
I'm no expert on ovulation but I am at the same stage on the TTC journey as you (only trying to get to know my cycle, figure out when I've ovulated etc) and last month the one and only time I ever ovulated it might as well have arrived with trumpet fanfare it was so obvious!
On day 7 I got egg white cervical mucus for the first time. Excuse me in advance for TMI but hopefully this might help you/other people.....basically this cm was totally different to anything I'd seen before. Firstly there was lots of it, secondly it looked like the train that a snail leaves after them and the acid test was that if you held it between your thumb and forefinger and then pulled them apart, it formed strings (the normal cm doesn't). Right sorry about that description, had to be done !!! ;o) So I had that cm on Day 7 and Day 8 of my cycle. Then on Day 9 I had a pain on one side for a couple of hours in the morning and then on Day 10 I got for the first time ever, a 2nd line on the OPK. So I reckon I ovulated on CD 11. My cycle was 16 days long in total so don't take those Cycle Days as normal CDs for those things to occur, I'm only mentioning them to illustrate the order in which things happened.
For me, as my husband is working abroad at the moment, the ovulation although a huge milestone/achievement, was no use to me for TTC but I was still delighted about it and can't wait for it to happen again......hopefully when hubby is around next time
I think that ovulation is such a mystery that to be really sure that it happens, you need to be tracking more than one indicator.....I'm no expert but I think the fact that you have a 2nd line on the OPK is a very positive sign for a start? I've been using them for months, and only last cycle for the first time ever did I ever get a 2nd line (leading me to believe I didn't ovulate on any of all those other cycles since I came off the pill last Nov).
Stickybean described to me before that she gets a line for a few days before ovulation. I presume (but I never asked) that once the 2nd line stops appearing, then that's how know that you have already ovulated? So ..how many days has your cycle been? On what day do you start seeing the 2nd line? For how many days is the 2nd line present? And on what day of your cycle does the 2nd line disappear? Maybe if you give those details one of the more experienced TTC'ers on here will be able to tell you on what day you probably ovulated then.
Also maybe you should consider using another few 'signposts' as well as the OPKs so either start temping or watching out for changes in the cm, or both.0 -
stickybean wrote: »I am CD 11 now, I am on Chlomid and I h:ave been ovulating on CD 14, and I can already feel the tiredness starting and the thinning of the mucus!!! Looks likes its time to get busy
Stickybean enjoy getting busy and best of luck with it xx May the force be with you this month :-)0 -
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That's very helpful information.........this means then that the line doesn't have to be as dark or darker than the test line to show you ovulated.....just seeing a line that is nearly as dark can also mean ovulation. I mean you got pregnant so you obviously ovulated :P
Tbh it was driving me mad until I got the positive pregnancy test. I had the cm going on but never saw the darker line. I was all set to spend loads on the smily face opks so there would be no squinting and checking the second line in different lights
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Tbh it was driving me mad until I got the positive pregnancy test. I had the cm going on but never saw the darker line. I was all set to spend loads on the smily face opks so there would be no squinting and checking the second line in different lights
Yeah I'd say Stickybean's suggestion of using cheapies to get a ball park and then using smileys to pinpoint the exact 12-24 hour window is bang on.
The downside of using only the smiley face opks would be that if you don't 'catch' the LH surge at exactly the right time, you'll never get a smiley face and you might think you're not ovulating at all.....
whereas at least if you use the cheapies you'll see a second line on the run up to/the wind down from ovulation as well and you'll know that it's definitely occuring!0 -
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Hi ladies, have been on the same journey as you all here & got a positive on a cheap pregnancy test last night. I convinced myself it was only a cheap test & was wrong. My period is two days late & I've been having symptoms like I'm going to get my period. I did a boots test today & got a positive again. I'm slow to believe its real!
Great news jack01 !! How long have you been trying for? Best of luck now hope it's a sticky bean 0 -
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arggggggggggggggh,today has been one hell of a day and im just sick of all this crap!!
Its so unfair
It seems to be cathing this arrrgggghhhh horrible stuff thats going around.
Work is changing a lot for me and while I do believe it will ultimately be for the good it is still a stressful time on that front.
My husband and I are hoping to move house and as always that isn't without its stresses and strains.
He has a full plate at work too there is no doubt about that and I really feel for him.
My Dad has had surgery recently and altough he will be fine and is getting better every day you can't help but worry about it and him. My poor ol' Mum is wrecked trying to mind him and stay cheery and all that stuff. So I'm concerned about her.
Then for good measure with a massive bolt out of the blue has come a thoroughly unpleasent blast from the past, one I'd much rather never see or hear from again.
Add it all up and its one big messy stress ball.
Today I'm on CD 29 and my period is due on Sunday June 5th. ...........if I get it. We did "it" all at the right times this month. The aps (Pink Pad, Lady Timer and What to Expect -(Fertility) suggested certain ovulation dates and when I used the OPK strips bought on Amazon they did work ......kinda. The test line did get darker on the supposed ovulation days and one day did get very close to the same colour as the control line so who knows.
In the madness of my brain I decided yesterday it would be a good idea to do both an OPK (why I don't know) and a pregnancy test for good measure.
Both upsurprisingly were negative.
I'm scared to hope that this month was a productive month for us.
Sorry for the brain dump ladies. Its one of those weeks it would seem.0 -
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it has been one of those weeks most definately!
Found out i have low egg reserve and now they wont let us go ahead with ivf until my auto immune disease is controlled,talk about disappointment
It is sooo frustrating,finally we thought right were getting somewhere and then knocked back again.0 -
yellow hen wrote: »Guys, I completely understand how hard it is. We were a year trying too penny. When I went for checkup, it burned out that I had two large cysts which had to be surgically removed. I got pregnant the month that I threw out the opks and pregnancy tests and finally allowed my body to relax. Have faith and try but to stress because it is definitely counterproductive. Best of luck to you. X
Its funny how we all know that stress and tension can hinder the baby making process yet its so much easier to say it than do it.
My period is due tomorrow and if it comes it comes. Things have been / actually are very difficult for me at the moment but I'm off on holidays in a couple of weeks and I'm due to ovulate when we're away. By the time D day comes we'll have been off for a few days and I'm hoping we'll both be more chilled out and relaxed and nature will take its course this time around.
Needless to say if my period doesn't come for all of the best reasons then I'll be happy out about that too.
Positive relaxing thoughts being sent to all of you ladies.
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Aw hard luck Penny Dreadful. Good luck for ovulating on holiday next cycle thoughPenny Dreadful wrote: »Period arrived today. Anyhow here's to the next time! 0 -
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it has been one of those weeks most definately!
Found out i have low egg reserve and now they wont let us go ahead with ivf until my auto immune disease is controlled,talk about disappointment
It is sooo frustrating,finally we thought right were getting somewhere and then knocked back again.
Bobskii that is tough tough tough. Hang in there. For the moment work on anything you can do to get the auto immune disorder under control and then the IVF will follow. I hope the doc has given you some good advice about what you can do. Look into alternative therapies too and diet etc.
I have a friend who had an auto-immune disorder for years, cysts on her ovary and endometrisis and she has a healthy toddler now, so there is light at the end of the tunnel x0 -
Aw hard luck Penny Dreadful. Good luck for ovulating on holiday next cycle though
Thanks:)
I'm quite impatient with myself by nature and have been so since stopping the Pill in December. I was convinced that I'd be pregnant super quick and then got rather fixated when it didn't happen as I had planned in my mind.
I've been quite fixated on OPKs, etc and now think that I'll just let nature take its course.... well within reason I'm not going to just wait for the next 5 years letting it meander on its own.
I'm going to be 36 in July and am a healthy 36 (don't smoke, never have, drink very little, eat healthily, am not overweight, etc, etc) and if nothing happens by September I'll go to see my doctor.
The way I've been thinking about it over the weekend is that I spent years taking the Pill and although my body has returned to periods on a faily regular basis since coming off it, it still takes time to get back to normal. I'm going to let this happen, relax and just enjoy sex with my husband and not see it only as baby making.
Fingers crossed eh?!:P0 -
Penny Dreadful wrote: »Thanks:)
I'm quite impatient with myself by nature and have been so since stopping the Pill in December. I was convinced that I'd be pregnant super quick and then got rather fixated when it didn't happen as I had planned in my mind.
I've been quite fixated on OPKs, etc and now think that I'll just let nature take its course.... well within reason I'm not going to just wait for the next 5 years letting it meander on its own.
I'm going to be 36 in July and am a healthy 36 (don't smoke, never have, drink very little, eat healthily, am not overweight, etc, etc) and if nothing happens by September I'll go to see my doctor.
The way I've been thinking about it over the weekend is that I spent years taking the Pill and although my body has returned to periods on a faily regular basis since coming off it, it still takes time to get back to normal. I'm going to let this happen, relax and just enjoy sex with my husband and not see it only as baby making.
Fingers crossed eh?!:P
I think the best advice when you are just starting TTC and come off the pill is for 6 months just concentrate on not trying not to get pregnant 0 -
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Penny Dreadful wrote: »Thanks:)
I'm quite impatient with myself by nature and have been so since stopping the Pill in December. I was convinced that I'd be pregnant super quick and then got rather fixated when it didn't happen as I had planned in my mind. I think this must be true of everyone in here, otherwise we wouldn't be on a forum eh!
I for one am very grateful for this forum, as in the real world I'm exposed to situations like a recent one where my only sister who is 3 years younger than me and wasn't even trying....just came off the pill and 1 month later (her hubby + her weren't even trying!!) was pregnant. She doesn't know one end of an opk from the other and it just happened like that, bam, with zero effort.
If I was comparing myself to the likes of that, I'd be freaked out. It's very reassuring to come on here and realise that while my sister is very lucky, that doesn't happen to alooooooot of women i.e. for many couples it takes a while.
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carolinespring wrote: »Well ladies, ages since I posted here. We have now got the all clear to TTC again and hopefully this time we have it sorted out, trying not to feel angry that we could have had this sorted years ago. This will be our first month to try so pretty scared and excited.
This morning my best friend had her 4th baby. I posted about how angry and sad I felt when she first told me she was expecting. She had a beautiful healthy little boy. I am so trilled for her, could not sleep last night as I knew she was in labour. Got the call at 9.20 this morning to say he had arrived at 8.50am Irish time. After lots of whopping with joy. I started crying and have spent most of the day doing so. Partly because she is in Canada and I felt so far away and sad I wasn't part of it as I was with her other 3 children. I was the first to hold each of her other children after her husband. The rest of it sadness for our many losses.
Drank so much coffee today that I won't sleep for a week!!! We went to the cinema this evening to just cheer up and I feel so much better. I truly am happy for my wonderful friend and delighted she has her healthy wee man, he is a dote. I met him on skype this afternoon and we are now planning a trip to Canada to meet him face to face, hopefully I will have a bump when we go.
Caroline, the very very best of luck to you in the next few months. I don't blame you for feeling angry at the wasted time - sometimes doctors need to give us credit for knowing our own bodies and listening to us when we tell them that we feel something is wrong- like you did all along, but hopefully soon you'll have the best reason of all for letting that anger go.
As for me, I think we needed some time off after the M/c in January, plus I was settling back to work again. We would like to start trying again so maybe for the rest of the summer we can see how we get on.0 -
Hi girls, new to the forum and looking for advice, support and a place to vent my frustration!
We're TTC for the past 4 years. Attended Tallaght hospital without success then referred to the Coombe, with the Coombe for about 2 years now. Tallaght gave me Clomid (50mg & 100mg) but then the Coombe took me off it because of my age (30 now) and also my weight. The Coombe wanted to see if I would ovulate on my own without medication and by loosing weight.
My husband had a couple of semen analysis done and he has a low sperm count but good motility and it's normal. I had a HyCoSy in February of this year and all ok. I'm currently on Metformin for the last couple of years to help loose weight. The Coombe also said I probably have PCOS.
The Coombe wanted me to loose 2 stone before they would consider giving me Clomid. In one year I actually lost 4 stone and in May and got the Clomid (50mg) and started it in May. Got my period in June so am taking Clomid at he moment so fingers crossed!! I'm back in the Coombe in August.
My husband was referred to St. James's Urology and also Endocrinology so investigate the low sperm count. After the investigations it's not clear why the sperm is low, he has Crohn's so perhaps that's connected to it. The Urologist gave him Clomid also. It didn't really agree with him, mood swings, acne, increased hunger etc. but he still takes it to try and increase his sperm count.
Looking for anybody else who is in the same position or similar situation. Stressed out now and feel like no one understands what I'm going through. 4 years trying is too long, it feels like it's never going to happen :mad:
People say try not to stress out but it's hard not to when it's on your mind 24/7.
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stickybean wrote: »For as long as I live, I swear I will never again tell a woman who is trying to concieve to relax and let nature take it course. It is just TOO hard to do, we are taking a break from ovulation kits and timed sex for 2 months, we have been so stressed and are losing the passion and the fun.
I am sure it will be really hard to not think about dates and cervical mucus, but as much as possible I am not going to think about it (I hope) xxx
I know lol. I love the way that you would see that lightbulb go on over their heads when they suggest it, and how triumphiant they are that they found a solution to your infertilty in the space of 5 mins where you, your partner and possibly any number of medical professionals have failed. And unwittingly sending your "relaxation" levels to critical as you mentally strangle them in your head.
I would suggest that maybe you do think about it, because you will anyway, just dont dwell on it and just say to yourself "well, in Sept I'll look into X when we start trying again properly" Its mad how technical and stressful it can get when its all timed. You are right to put it to the side and concentrate on connecting with each other.0 -
Another thing that people say to you that I find unhelpful is when well-meaning friends/family say 'I just know you're going to be a Mammy' and one close friend lately telling me that she didn't think there was any point in us planning an event in September as she said 'I'm fully sure you'll be in sprogsville by then'. I didn't mind the sprogsville word, she's just trying to be funny it's the assumption that they somehow know something that I don't - they KNOW I'm going to be pregnant. How can they know that? I think it's quite an arrogant thing to say to me, and stupid - I mean what if there is something wrong and I won't get to be a Mammy? They'll have to eat their words then. Anyway the last time my best friend (who is pregnant) told me that she 'just knows' that it will happen for me, I told her I found it patronising so needless to say, it hasn't been mentioned since. I may have over-reacted...but I find it frustrating that people assume to know something that they can't possibly know! 0
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