Formula 1 2014: General Discussion Thread

ZiabR · 10-01-2014 12:55pm

Zcott wrote: »

Jenson chooses 22 as his number, the number of the Brawn he won the title in.

Interesting.

Do we have a list of all of the numbers taken so far?

_rebelkid · 10-01-2014 1:21pm

logik wrote: »

Interesting.

Do we have a list of all of the numbers taken so far?

From Sky F1's Web Site:

Driver number choices:

Red Bull
Sebastian Vettel: Yet to be announced.
Daniel Ricciardo: 3.

Ferrari
Fernando Alonso: 14.
Kimi Raikkonen: 7.

Mercedes
Lewis Hamilton: Yet to be announced.
Nico Rosberg: 6, 5 or 9.

Lotus
Romain Grosjean: 8, 29 or 11.
Pastor Maldonado: Yet to be announced.

McLaren
Jenson Button: 22.
Kevin Magnussen: 20.

Force India
Sergio Perez: 11.
Nico Hulkenberg: Yet to be announced.

Sauber
Adrian Sutil: Yet to be announced.
Esteban Gutierrez: Yet to be announced.

Toro Rosso
Jean-Eric Vergne: 25, 21 or 27.
Daniil Kvyat: Yet to be announced.

Williams
Felipe Massa: 19.
Valtteri Bottas: 77, 17 or 11.

Marussia
Jules Bianchi: 7, 27 or 77.
Driver still to be confirmed.

Caterham
Driver still to be confirmed.
Driver still to be confirmed.

PopePalpatine · 10-01-2014 1:31pm

logik wrote: »

It's in bad taste, just move on Massa...

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/09/massa-suspects-alonso-knew-crashgate-plan/

I think Felipe has every right to complain, Crashgate potentially robbed Felipe of a WDC title, one which I doubt he'll ever have a chance of winning again.

10-01-2014 2:12pm

It wouldn't surprise me if Alonso knew but whether he did or not I'm sure when it first came out he wasn't shocked.

ZiabR · 10-01-2014 3:19pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me if Alonso knew but whether he did or not I'm sure when it first came out he wasn't shocked.

Would agree here.

I know it essentially robbed Massa of a WDC, what I am getting at is, bringing it up again is in bad taste now that he is no longer Alonso's teammate.

christy c · 10-01-2014 4:19pm

logik wrote: »

Would agree here.

I know it essentially robbed Massa of a WDC, what I am getting at is, bringing it up again is in bad taste now that he is no longer Alonso's teammate.

I would refer you to my earlier post, I would think that it was most likely brought up for him as I've never seen Massa come accross as bitter as this

Zcott · 10-01-2014 7:10pm

And here's the full entry list with numbers:

http://www.fia.com/2014-fia-f1-world-championship-entry-list

Jordan 199 · 10-01-2014 7:37pm

I'll be looking out for 19 and 44 this season

Maldonado's number :eek:

Infoanon · 10-01-2014 7:40pm

Happy that Nico Hulkenburg chose #27 - I was concerned that an also ran might have chose that number.

andyman · 10-01-2014 7:49pm

Knew some funny fella would pick 99.

H3llR4iser · 10-01-2014 7:54pm

Zcott wrote: »

And here's the full entry list with numbers:

http://www.fia.com/2014-fia-f1-world-championship-entry-list

I was sure Alonso would not do it, his ego is too immensely overblown for that, but was hoping maybe Raikkonen would pick #27. Goes to Hulkenberg instead, still better than not having it at all.

Frank Bullitt · 10-01-2014 9:44pm

christy c wrote: »

I would refer you to my earlier post, I would think that it was most likely brought up for him as I've never seen Massa come accross as bitter as this

The whole thing should be put to sleep, he is clearly still troubled by it.

If he wants to blame anyone, it should be whoever was in charge of the traffic light system, unscheduled stops in F1 are common so Ferrari should have been ready at that stage.

Even at that, I do remember his performance after the incident being quite appalling, he had a spin at some stage after it I think and was nowhere near the leaders on pace in that Ferrari.

christy c · 10-01-2014 10:12pm

Gintonious wrote: »

The whole thing should be put to sleep, he is clearly still troubled by it.

If he wants to blame anyone, it should be whoever was in charge of the traffic light system, unscheduled stops in F1 are common so Ferrari should have been ready at that stage.

Even at that, I do remember his performance after the incident being quite appalling, he had a spin at some stage after it I think and was nowhere near the leaders on pace in that Ferrari.

This article should be put to sleep, they picked one thing he said (possibly out of context), and made a a story out of it.

Article smells of BS to me

Technoprisoner · 11-01-2014 12:38am

nice touch by vettel picking 5...he will be sick if he does not win the world championship this year though lol

Peanut Butter Jelly · 11-01-2014 12:41am

I think he picked it because it was the number he had in 2010, when he won WDC number 1, and not necessarily about a 5th WDC

Jordan 199 · 11-01-2014 1:50am

Car launch dates so far:

McLaren: online launch on the 24th of January.

Mercedes and Caterham: at Jerez on the 28th of January.

Cookie_Monster · 11-01-2014 7:17am

that number thing just gets stupider and stupider...

Infoanon · 11-01-2014 1:35pm

Max Chilton confirmed at Marussia for 2014, no word on Caterham yet.

Frank Bullitt · 11-01-2014 8:03pm

Why was Chilton kept on? A waste of seat!

SnowDrifts · 11-01-2014 8:05pm

Gintonious wrote: »

Why was Chilton kept on? A waste of seat!

Frank Bullitt · 12-01-2014 1:23am

Another year of him being comprehensively out qualified by Bianchi, and for the british commentators saying he is doing a wonderful job, can't wait.

SilverScreen · 12-01-2014 2:17am

Gintonious wrote: »

Why was Chilton kept on? A waste of seat!

Daddy's money talks.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 12-01-2014 2:27am

Gintonious wrote: »

Why was Chilton kept on? A waste of seat!

I think this recent photo of Grahame Chilton might give us some clues.....

Zcott · 12-01-2014 10:57am

He did finish every race in 2013, which is ok. Slow and steady.

Myrddin · 12-01-2014 11:41am

Zcott wrote: »

He did finish every race in 2013, which is ok. Slow and steady.

I believe the full saying is, "Slow & steady wins the race"....something Chilton was never, ever in any danger of doing. Not too hard to finish every race when you're the slowest driver on the track, in the slowest car, starting from the very back every time.

Zcott · 12-01-2014 6:44pm

Myrddin wrote: »

I believe the full saying is, "Slow & steady wins the race"....something Chilton was never, ever in any danger of doing. Not too hard to finish every race when you're the slowest driver on the track, in the slowest car, starting from the very back every time.

True. Although if you're a rookie team you'll want a driver that finishes the races because there's the odd point to be picked up, and that's valuable.

Plus, if you have a driver who crashes a lot, that's a fortune in repair bills that you might not have. Sure, it helps that Chilton brings big money but he's probably one of the best options they have. Pair him with someone fast and crashy.

bennyx_o · 12-01-2014 6:46pm

Don't think this has been posted before. It's a render of the 2014 Ferrari car. Not sure how accurate it is or not, but worth a look.

Link

Zcott · 12-01-2014 6:52pm

bennyx_o wrote: »

Don't think this has been posted before. It's a render of the 2014 Ferrari car. Not sure how accurate it is or not, but worth a look.

Link

That's not a bad looking car at all.

Myrddin · 12-01-2014 7:53pm

Zcott wrote: »

True. Although if you're a rookie team you'll want a driver that finishes the races because there's the odd point to be picked up, and that's valuable.

That'd be true if Chilton was ever within sniffing distance of a point, which just isn't the case.

Plus, if you have a driver who crashes a lot, that's a fortune in repair bills that you might not have. Sure, it helps that Chilton brings big money but he's probably one of the best options they have. Pair him with someone fast and crashy.

He might be the best option for them at the moment, but remove daddy's €12m from the equation & you get a very, very different answer.

Infoanon · 12-01-2014 9:10pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

I'll be looking out for 19 and 44 this season

Maldonado's number :eek:

I think thats the first time #13 has been used in Formula 1.

Nascar and Anthony West in Moto GP used #13, IndyCar don't use the number.

ZiabR · 12-01-2014 9:22pm

Myrddin wrote: »

I believe the full saying is, "Slow & steady wins the race"....something Chilton was never, ever in any danger of doing. Not too hard to finish every race when you're the slowest driver on the track, in the slowest car, starting from the very back every time.

Thats exactly it. His qualifying was terrible too, he was always beaten by Bianchi, i think for one exception when Bianchi didnt even run. Money is the only reason he is still in F1. Such a shame.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 12-01-2014 10:16pm

Infoanon wrote: »

I think thats the first time #13 has been used in Formula 1.

Nascar and Anthony West in Moto GP used #13, IndyCar don't use the number.

It's not the first time it's been used. It was retired first in 1926 after two drivers died using the number for the same team. It came back in the 60's on one occasion and once again in 75/76 I think.

Infoanon · 12-01-2014 11:48pm

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

It's not the first time it's been used. It was retired first in 1926 after two drivers died using the number for the same team. It came back in the 60's on one occasion and once again in 75/76 I think.

Thanks - do you know who used the number in the 60's and 75/76 ?

Peanut Butter Jelly · 12-01-2014 11:54pm

Divina Galica in 76 with Surtees at the British GP and Moises Solana in 63 with BRM at the Mexican GP.

Brian_Zeluz · 13-01-2014 12:38am

I think we need to calm down on the Chilton bashing, he's crap for sure but there's no way that anyone including Max Cash will ever beat Taki.

Peanut Butter Jelly · 13-01-2014 12:50am

Brian_Zeluz wrote: »

I think we need to calm down on the Chilton bashing, he's crap for sure but there's no way that anyone including Max Cash will ever beat Taki.

Until you realise it was Chilton that was driving the medical car that hit Inoue.

ZiabR · 13-01-2014 10:29am

Peanut Butter Jelly wrote: »

Until you realise it was Chilton that was driving the medical car that hit Inoue.

Lol

lolie · 13-01-2014 2:11pm

Poor max is talking about scoring points this year.
Maybe with his 'record breaking' finishing if the new cars are unreliable if he drives like a turtoise he might creep up to 10th in a race

Jordan 199 · 13-01-2014 2:26pm

lolie wrote: »

Poor max is talking about scoring points this year.
Maybe with his 'record breaking' finishing if the new cars are unreliable if he drives like a turtoise he might creep up to 10th in a race

Or waits for Pastor Maldonado to wipe out half the field

lolie · 13-01-2014 2:26pm

Theres talk that Gary anderson is gone from the Bbc F1 coverage.
Bad mistake from the Bbc, apart from the cars he was the main reason a lot of people tuned in.

lolie · 13-01-2014 2:27pm

Jordan 191 wrote: »

Or waits for Pastor Maldonado to wipe out half the field

Maybe theres method in his madness.

KarlFitz01 · 13-01-2014 3:49pm

Are BBC going to be showing testing?

Zcott · 13-01-2014 4:21pm

KarlFitz01 wrote: »

Are BBC going to be showing testing?

Nope. Last year I think Sky did some coverage but not live.

Speaking of Sky, if anyone has a Sky account with F1 and is looking for a financial donation, let me know...

Zcott · 13-01-2014 4:23pm

lolie wrote: »

Theres talk that Gary anderson is gone from the Bbc F1 coverage.
Bad mistake from the Bbc, apart from the cars he was the main reason a lot of people tuned in.

Really hope this isn't true, although this blog seems to suggest it is. No other reports though.

http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/gary-anderson-to-leave-bbcs-formula-1-team/

Carroller16 · 13-01-2014 4:43pm

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/422753902232993793

KarlFitz01 · 13-01-2014 5:00pm

Zcott wrote: »

Really hope this isn't true, although this blog seems to suggest it is. No other reports though.

http://f1broadcasting.wordpress.com/2014/01/13/gary-anderson-to-leave-bbcs-formula-1-team/

Same hope it isn't true Gary was good when they where talking about the technical part of the cars.

ZiabR · 13-01-2014 5:20pm

R.I.P

kiddums · 13-01-2014 5:41pm

R.I.P

Legend of a man.

SamAK · 13-01-2014 6:00pm

Just heard that Jenson's father - John Button, has passed away.

Very sad, he was ALWAYS at the races...very familiar face in the paddock, always there to support his boy.

Big shock for Jenson, and so close to the start of the season...what a shame...

Peanut Butter Jelly · 13-01-2014 6:02pm

Yeah, suspected heart attack at his home in south France.

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