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E-Cigarettes - The original thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭pinksoir


    Cheers for this thread. Reading it honestly really made me excited. I've been struggling a bit with giving up smoking recently. I gave up about two months ago, and have been having one or two sneaky ones every now and again, usually when I have a drink, sometimes out of boredom.

    The thing is, I really enjoy certain aspects of smoking. I like the taste of tobacco, but I hate the smell of smoke, especially the stale smell in a room (something I didn't really notice when I smoked). I love the feeling of drawing in a pull and the kick on the throat. I hate the side effects of smoking though - tiredness, lung and brain pain, bleeding gums, bad breath, smelling, and the general unhealthiness.

    These seem exactly what I'm looking for. I have no objections to nicotine per se. I'm on the gum at the moment, and that gives me a bigger buzz than fags ever did, but it's an entirely different sensation. I'm also addicted to chewing gum. Which means I have a constantly painful jaw. Also, it's not so much the nicotine, but rather the habit of doing something with my mouth, as in, I don't really chew the nicotine gum unless I really get cravings, or am hungry.

    Once again, I love cigarettes, or at least certain aspects of them. If they didn't make me feel like shít and smell I wouldn't have given them up.

    So I ordered the 901 from liberty-flights. Was thinking about the 510, but I was never a really heavy smoker, at most 10 a day, and I never really smoked heavy tobacco. Marlboro lights and then Drum blue, so I thought I'd go for one with a slightly lighter kick and longer life. I also got a USB passthru cos I'm at a computer a lot of the time. Oh, and some menthol and tobacco juices for mixing.

    So, once again, thanks for starting this thread (I only happened upon it by clicking your sig btw). I knew about e-cigarettes before but never really gave them a second look. This thread changed my mind. I'm really excited to try it out, and I'll let ya'll know how I get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭pinksoir


    Right. So I must say I really like it. I got menthol and tobacco e-liquid. The menthol is nice and the tobacco tastes like popcorn. I prefer the menthol flavour, but popcorn isn't without it's charm...

    I got it on Thursday amd went out both nights for drinks. I didn't smoke at all on Thursday and only smoked half a fag on Friday, but I couldn't finish it. Much prefer puffing away on the e-cigarette.

    One thing is the raspy feeling at the back of my throat. It reminds me of the feeling of a nicorette inhaler. I might try a weaker e-liquid next time.

    Think I've won over a few friends to the idea too. They were very impressed by the idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    Well how's everybody getting on? Off the analogues here for the past 10 days or so and can honestly say it was completely painless with the ecig. It just needed the right flavour juice and the right level of nic 24mg and a tiny push :)
    Early days yet obviously but no cravings and actually enjoy the vaping flavours, even if I break which doesn't seem likely atm, then I think it will be so much easier to resume something enjoyable like vaping as opposed to say resuming patches or gum etc.

    So much better than patches, gum, lozenges or drugs that mess with your brain!
    These things deserve so much more credit, seems obvious then that they'll probably be banned in the future!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Still off the real thing. Thats almost 5 months. I'm a happy camper. Currently trying the Low Res atomisers which allow a higher voltage experience with a standard voltage battery. Thats just a little treat now and again. In general I am happy with a standard atomiser, 18mg Tobacco/Marlb liquid and a GD pass-through or tornado/screwdriver when on the go. I've also order some 12mg liquid to test if I can move lower and stay happy.

    I remain astounded more people don't know about these things yet also convinced that there will be a call to ban them in Ireland long before anyone calls to research their potential to save lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 THE S33K3R


    Just got one of these , a DSE-801 . First impression ... wow , it's just like a real smoke , without the feeling of the smoke going into your lungs . As a nicotine delivery system it's good though , cant see myself having another cigarette ... ever .. which is good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    THE S33K3R wrote: »
    Just got one of these , a DSE-801 . First impression ... wow , it's just like a real smoke , without the feeling of the smoke going into your lungs . As a nicotine delivery system it's good though , cant see myself having another cigarette ... ever .. which is good.

    Nice one s33k3r keep at it :)

    Mewso, I did have a look at the low res atomizers not so long ago, gonna try them sometime soon for a go. Happy enough with things as they are tho and trying now to cut down on the orders as I've so much ecig stuff it can start getting expensive, especiallly juice.

    Lately I've gone down the DIY route with the flavourarts from libertyflights....some interesting flavours but havent quite nailed anything down yet as an all day type liquid, still i've a lot to get thru yet, only tested 3 flavours out of 18 ordered so a lot of cooking to do yet!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    cougar1 wrote: »
    Nice one s33k3r keep at it :)

    Mewso, I did have a look at the low res atomizers not so long ago, gonna try them sometime soon for a go. Happy enough with things as they are tho and trying now to cut down on the orders as I've so much ecig stuff it can start getting expensive, especiallly juice. !

    I'm with you on saving money but keep an eye on Eastmall. They are planning to seel LR attys at $3 a pop. Now that will save some cash. They haven't got them in stock just yet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    I don't own an e-cig, but after reading this thread I'm very interested in the idea. Was looking at the screwdriver and my main worry is that it'll look slightly ridiculous being smoked in the pub so I was leaning slightly towards the joye-510. I just had a question about it's battery life..it says 2-3 hours..does that mean I can turn it on for ten minutes, 12-18 times a day? or is it a turn it on.. dies in around 3 hours sort of deal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I don't own an e-cig, but after reading this thread I'm very interested in the idea. Was looking at the screwdriver and my main worry is that it'll look slightly ridiculous being smoked in the pub so I was leaning slightly towards the joye-510. I just had a question about it's battery life..it says 2-3 hours..does that mean I can turn it on for ten minutes, 12-18 times a day? or is it a turn it on.. dies in around 3 hours sort of deal?

    That looks very much like the Titan 510 I got (same name, different branding perhaps?).

    You have to press the button every time you take a drag. This should save the battery life a good bit because of this.

    joye510white.jpg

    If it is the same as the Titan one I got, then I've been quite underwhelmed. I find the first drag is pretty good, but not much use after. I found I was really trying to pull hard on it for a good while to get a decent hit. That was using the high strength flavour stuff.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    shame, i was just gona post and ask about the titan 510 i saw on smoke without fire :)

    are the cartridges on the titan510 refillable? Might risk the purchase, just to try it out.. but I do prefer the idea of buying my own stock of flavoured liquids


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    I don't know if they're refillable - my yoke came with about 10 of them. I'm sure you can cook up your own flavour though.

    I'll give my one a go again, but I was a bit disappointed. The amount of vapour was OK, but it just seemed to die down very quickly after the first drag or two. I want to use it continuously for a few minutes like a cigarette, not every few minutes for a short time.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    Most of the 510 models are the Joye 510s rebranded with some exceptions(clones). The clone I know of is the BE510 and is just as good from my experience. They are essentially rivals to Joye. All of these guys buy them off the chinese and rebrand them from Joye 510 or BE510 to Janty/Titan and so on.

    I would be almost certain there is something wrong somewhere if you were underwhelmed eoin. Bad batteries/attomisers even 0 nic cartridges issued in error. It's hard to know.

    The battery life for me equated to 2-3 hours overall even if that only equated to an hour of actually pressing the button. Thats why I didn't waste much time moving on to a bigger battery, the SD/Tornado fitting the bill best imo.

    The Screwdriver is smaller than you think. You can easily cover it with your hand which is the natural way to hold it as the button is on the bottom and nobody will see what is in you hand bar the atomiser in your mouth.

    Finally I have yet to come accross any cartridges that can't be refilled. All of them are the same idea - material in them that are dabbed in the liquid and which you can drip more liquid into. The main reason to buy blanks is so you won't have two flavours mixed up when you start dripping say strawberry in a tobacco cartridge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 3D


    Well I stumbled upon this thread last week - while looking for peoples impressions of hypnotism for quitting and I have to say it inspired me to order a 510 and give it a whirl.

    First impressions are that its quite good - I like the initial hit but like Eoin mentioned after the first few draws it does seem to be much harder to get a good hit. I'm no expert but could it be due to the atomizer not getting enough liquid? I do tend to take long draws so all the liquid close to the atomizer would be quickly used up? Or could the pre-packaged cartridges have "dried" out somewhat?

    I also ordered some blanks and some Hilton so going to give it some experimentation tomorrow and see if I can get a setup that suits me.

    I have to say I really like the sweet taste though - much nicer than the taste of the real thing ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    I think tbh, the problem ye both had with smoking it like a cig is something I had to deal with by getting more batteries and atomizers and having a few on the go at once.....this is because when you take a about 3 or 4 drags the atomizer heats up to a fairly hot temp and it really needs to cool down again before it 'wicks' up more juice properly. So it cant be quick dragged like a cig; but if you have 4 on the go rotating then it can, as you are dragging on another as the previous atomizer is 'cooling down' or 'wicking'.

    Also IMO there is too much 'packing' i.e. filler in the carts...taking it out and cutting it in half and using half the amount of filler helps keep the wicking going better because the normal amount dries at the top end and the bottom end is still filled with juice that is taking ages to wick through the filler, so cut it down in size.

    Also eoin, I'm using at the moment a 24mg cigar flavour in a screwdriver and it would nearly knock me off my feet if i took a strong few drags so there has to have been something off about your last setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Another recomendation here for the 510, got mine from thevapourstore.ie and haven't had an "analouge" for nearly a month. Getting best results from dripping and using the manual batteries seems to produce a better hit,take both a standard and a mega battery to work & does a 12 hour day. Using 24mg RY4 and can really recomend it, can also highly recomend the vapour store for its consistant next day delivery.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    syngindub wrote: »
    as with chewing-gum, patches and now these i don't understand how you can quit nicotine addiction by giving yourself nicotine. It make NO sense.
    Would you see somebody with an alcohol patch if they were giving up the drink.I don't think so.


    It's not the same thing, people are not necessarily giving up nicotine, this is not the most harmful part - its the tar and other sh*t that causes the most harm !! So if it helps in giving up that what the hell, nicotine addiction can come later....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Freiheit


    I'd be willing to sell my e-cigarette pack, I never experienced any real 'kick' with it, although that may be due to the low strength of the cartridges, hardly used. May place an advert on adverts.ie. Haven't smoked actual cigarettes since October.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Ouijaboard


    Well hows everybody getting on? Still off them old fags here, which is amazing...been using the flavourart flavours more lately and find them very subtle and satisfying....so much so that the regualar premixed stuff all taste too sweet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 3D


    Still using both at the moment - though I think I have finally worked out in the last couple of days that I was not using enough liquid (Not refilling often enough) to give me the hit I wanted/expected/needed and in a 510 with an auto battery I can happily puff away with no thoughts of sneaking out to have a "real" ciggie.

    On another note - I seen adapters on TECC that allow you to inter-exchange batteries and atomisers - so going to pick one up that allows me to use my 510 atomisers with my screwdriver mkII.

    Link if anyone is interested:
    http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/electronic-cigarette-multi-adaptors-products.html


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    6 months cig free now. A lot of more advanced and interesting battery mods appearing these days. I can't quite afford something like the fistpack although it does seem to do almost everything but I ordered a very reasonable stomp box which is winging it's way across the water as we speak.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    3D wrote: »
    On another note - I seen adapters on TECC that allow you to inter-exchange batteries and atomisers - so going to pick one up that allows me to use my 510 atomisers with my screwdriver mkII.

    Link if anyone is interested:
    http://www.theelectroniccigarette.co.uk/products/electronic-cigarette-multi-adaptors-products.html

    Almost all of the decent suppliers are doing those adapters these days. Very handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 aceddooces


    Hi Folks,
    Im still quite happily vaping away to my hearts content with my joye 510. Havent had to get any new atomisers or batteries yet :D, using since march touch wood. Have gone to Ok smokey and on the df old holburn and drum it great stuff. Have heard of the passthrough to use with the comp does anyone use one and if so is it any good. I really need to get more batteries as im forever recharging.
    Glad to see so many peeps converting to e ciggie it really is good. Also does anyone know any where in the midlands where you can vape in a pub all pubs ive asked so far have said the would prefer if i didnt as other people wouldnt understand and would be inclined to light up.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    aceddooces wrote: »
    Glad to see so many peeps converting to e ciggie it really is good. Also does anyone know any where in the midlands where you can vape in a pub all pubs ive asked so far have said the would prefer if i didnt as other people wouldnt understand and would be inclined to light up.

    Passthroughs are a bit of a strange one with the 510. USB sockets are rated at 500mA and most 510 attomizers will require much more than that so what it might do to the atty or your pc is a question. I have a very goog PT but I am searching for a proper mains powered usb solution so I can be sure it gets the right mA.

    As for pubs I'm generally happy to vape outside like any other smoker so I've never asked. Until I have a bout 5 pints or more when I start to stealth vape indoors :) Over in the UK they are trying to start an awareness campaign for pubs producing a flyer to be handed out to the pub owners to fill them in on what they are. It would probably help a pubs business if they allowed e-cigs and made more people aware of them.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭619C


    Ha Ha 'stealth vaping' - I know what you mean - blow it into your sleeve!!
    Great in the supermarket if you get a pang for a vape...


  • Registered Users Posts: 47 mr.spids


    great post fair play


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭was.deevey


    I'm involved with an ecigaratte company, not selling to eire though.

    I'm Currently using their product now for about 2 months, and actually heading to china to visit the factory soon (that should be interesting!)

    Its a 2 piece (cartonizer/batter) design as opposed to the 3 piece, vaporiser / cart / battery and hits the nail on the head BIGTIME .. I'm finally off the fags !!!!

    I've had the 3 piece (separate vaporizer) model in the past but the 2 piece "cartonizer" seems to be doing a much better trick .. carts do cost more and "technically" are not meant to be refilled .. the whole idea is a fresh vaporizer each time, but they refill just fine by popping the plug i have managed to Burn out 2 or three though (they taste really bad if the wadding burns).

    It holds ALOT more fluid than any other cart i've seen or used, lasts about 40 fags normally .. with about 12-15 drops.

    Being a menthol smoker helps I guess, i can't imagine Vaping tobacco "flavour" (I've even seen turkey flavoured vapour though for sale here!)

    i know what you mean though...its like having a never ending fag and hard to stop vaping especially as i'm on the computer at home all day.

    I think the only thing I miss is "having" to go outside for a smoke :P

    http://www.smokegeniecigs.com is the one i'm using ..... as I said not available in Ireland (although you never know in the future ;).. its about the same as greensmokes design (non-compatible though)

    Just wish more governments would just rule "something" on them to get them out of the grey limbo area...regulate the carts/liquid (dont impose stupid taxes though) so at least we know what we're getting...lead paint in kids toys from china is a worrying thought.

    Fact is they've gotta be better than fags though, and yet governments are comparing them to inhalers !

    Has there been any issues with the our government on them to date .. I've been searching but honestly not found much ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    mewso wrote: »
    Personally I would get the 510 model buts it's difficult be certain about the best model for each individual. I went into this prepared to try one or two models at least to see what suits. I prefer the 510 as I found the feeling in my throat closer to the real thing and most importantly I much prefer the manual button to the automatic. Takes a little bit fo getting used to but you can control how long of a pull you want wheras the auto has a cut-out of about 5-6 seconds I think. As to where to buy well no harm in going Irish:-

    http://www.thevapourstore.ie - only problem is they only have white models at the moment. If you are happy with white you'll have it the next day.

    Failing that there are a few excellent UK sites I would recommend:-

    liberty-flights - an excellent site and the owner posts on http://ukvapers.com so I can get a hold of him easy enough if I want but the customer service is excellent in general anyway. Unfortunately they are out of stock for the 510 so next option would be...

    The list of UK suppliers on UKVapers - sites I have used are Totally Wicked, E-Cigs, VapourStation but most on the list are known by the forum so safe enough. Look for a good price. If you decide to go with Totally Wicked then consider the Tornado. It's a 510 with a much better battery and I like it. The OKSmokey liquid is great but I didn't have a good experience with their 510 so I can't recommend it I'm afraid.

    Really I'm afraid you just have to dive in, watch some videos on how best to use them or ask here about it when you have a model and so on. It's certainly worth 30-50 euro to see if it will work imo.

    To sum up:-

    The 510 is the best throat kick imo.
    901 Cartridges fit in 510 attomisers but 510 cartridges don't fit in 901s. Either way if you get a bottle of liquid you can drip some into an already used cart of any type. The liquid is all the same regardless of model.
    Are they hard to use? - a bit finnicky but nothing thats going to stop you if it works for you in terms of stopping smoking.
    Don't be afraid to try more than one model. Use the first model to see if it's got potential for you. If it doesn absolutely nothing for you then fair enough. If it works for you great. If it's almost but not quite then maybe try a different model - 901, cartomiser (the two piece which I haven't tried but is supposed to be good for throat hit) or try different liquids and strengths (I personally have settled on 18mg which is consider medium to high).
    The cartridges you get with a starter kit normally come with basic tobacco flavour which has a mildly sweet taste so if you want to get a bottle with your order maybe get something like Hilton which lacks the sweet taste so you can compare or even menthol. I never smoked menthol but the liquid does give a great throat hit imo.

    See I've written a lot more than I intended. It really is hard to pin it down :)

    Right took your advice and ordered a 510. Will post back with the results, I'm hoping this will work where patches and gum have failed etc!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Initial impressions:
    • Good throat hit, enjoyable.
    • Will take some getting used to, not an immediate replacement for smoking but it does satisfy the cravings for a cigarette which is very important.
    • Not tasting much but that's probably down to my taste buds being shot from smoking!
    • Biggest negative so far is that thevapourstore.ie didn't send a USB charger with my 510 kit, only a mains charger. I'd have liked to have a USB charger to charge from my PC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    thevapourstore.ie dont supply usb charger as part of the 510 kit and they dont seem to stock one at all. I'm using a 510 from thevapourstore for 3 months nearly and found it real easy to quit a 20+ year habit. Decided to try their 801 model last week and cant get on with it at all, its useless compared to the 510, emailed them yesterday to give 'em my impression of the 2 models and they credited me the value of the 801 'cause i found it so bad.

    Anybody tried the 601 pipe? thinking it might be worth a shot.

    I'm in no way assosiated with thevapourstore.ie but can highly recommend them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Right, after a few more hours use:
    • I'm not craving a cigarette at all. I'm totally happy with my 510.
    • The dreaded after-dinner cravings were satisfied with a few puffs on my 510. Probably the biggest test so far for the device! Tomorrow should be interesting when my first thing in the morning craving gets the 510 treatment.
    • I've been out of the house several times and each time I brought my 510 not cigarettes. I felt no urge to bring cigarettes at all, I was happy to just have the e-cig with me. I felt no temptation to buy cigarettes in the shop either which is something that I've had with every other quitting attempt I've gone through.
    • Using 26mg liquid seems to be the sweet spot for me at the moment. Will probably try some 32mg soon.
    • At its core it's simple: When I crave a fag I just take a few puffs of the 510 and my craving is satisfied. It's taking some getting used to but I'm pretty certain at this point that this will work. It's not like quitting at all really. It feels more like having a cigar instead of a cigarette. Both satisfy the same need but both are very different experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Yeah that morning craving was something i wasn't looking forward to dealing with, and i got to agree its not like quitting smoking, its more like changing brands, pretty sure i'll never go back to "analogs" :D .... Was a big deal for me going to to work the first time without me fags.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Oh, and expecting delivery of apple flavour juice tomorrow, looking forward to a change from my regular ry4 ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭Br4tPr1nc3


    i was talkin to some people in england who were using these,
    and i decided to try it myself cos they said they were really good.

    and i agree, i think theyre brilliant.
    i have smoked 3 cigarettes in the last 2 weeks,
    and have absolutely no feeling to have one anymore,
    im now used to the e-cig and just smoke that all the time.

    im using the dse801 with high strength cartridges from the vapourshop.ie, and i find it great.
    although i will agree that the throat hit is sometimes inconsistant.
    but i just kind go with it.

    i think theyre brilliant for givin up smokes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    Got myself a Tornado and honestly I don't think I could go back to a mini e-cig. Having a load of battery life is just bliss really. I would strongly recommend new people to get a Tornado/eGo/Riva first, it's the 510 experience without the annoying repeated battery changes! That and the batteries last much longer because you're putting them through fewer charging cycles each day. First battery lasted 7.5 hours of heavy chain vaping which is more than acceptable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Hey nesf where did you pick that up? Was in a shop just off Gardner st yesterday that sells e-juice and stuff....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    gbob wrote: »
    Hey nesf where did you pick that up? Was in a shop just off Gardner st yesterday that sells e-juice and stuff....

    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co.uk/


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin sell starter kits?

    Thinking of trying this stuff out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    nesf wrote: »
    Got myself a Tornado and honestly I don't think I could go back to a mini e-cig. Having a load of battery life is just bliss really. I would strongly recommend new people to get a Tornado/eGo/Riva first, it's the 510 experience without the annoying repeated battery changes! That and the batteries last much longer because you're putting them through fewer charging cycles each day. First battery lasted 7.5 hours of heavy chain vaping which is more than acceptable.

    But can you use it for 5 minutes straight, like you would with a cigarette?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    Any bricks and mortar shops in Dublin sell starter kits?

    Thinking of trying this stuff out.

    talbot st, just off Gardner st there's a newsagent opposite the cashpoint machine run by a Chinese family, not sure how good their stuff is but might be worth checking out.

    Hellrazer from IBF?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    eoin wrote: »
    But can you use it for 5 minutes straight, like you would with a cigarette?

    Yup. You can chain vape on it for an extended period if that's what's needed to satisfy a craving.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,257 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    nesf wrote: »
    Yup. You can chain vape on it for an extended period if that's what's needed to satisfy a craving.

    Cheers. I just want something that will last as long as a normal cigarette without getting hotter than the sun and losing the hit after a minute.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    eoin wrote: »
    Cheers. I just want something that will last as long as a normal cigarette without getting hotter than the sun and losing the hit after a minute.

    I puff away on mine all day. It'll only get badly hot if you take a 15-20 second drag on it or something.

    They're quite different to use than a real cigarette. It's a case of long slow drags rather than bunches of quick puffs. You get used to it fairly quickly though.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    gbob wrote: »
    talbot st, just off Gardner st there's a newsagent opposite the cashpoint machine run by a Chinese family, not sure how good their stuff is but might be worth checking out.

    Hellrazer from IBF?


    How close to Store Street would that shop be??Is it the Amien street end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    gbob wrote: »
    talbot st, just off Gardner st there's a newsagent opposite the cashpoint machine run by a Chinese family, not sure how good their stuff is but might be worth checking out.

    Hellrazer from IBF?

    Be warned, some of the clone stuff is a bit dodgy. Don't automatically assume e-somoking is not for you based off kit from a small brick and mortar shop. They might be stocking sub-par gear. Or not depending on their supplier.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    Hellrazer wrote: »
    How close to Store Street would that shop be??Is it the Amien street end?


    About 50 mtrs west of the junction with Gardner st, and as nesf said dont base any opinion on the cheap copies.... i've tried 3 different models and i'm recommending the joye 510 from thevapourstore.ie to everyone, and i'd also suggest you start on a strong (26mg) e-juice, good luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    gbob wrote: »
    About 50 mtrs west of the junction with Gardner st, and as nesf said dont base any opinion on the cheap copies.... i've tried 3 different models and i'm recommending the joye 510 from thevapourstore.ie to everyone, and i'd also suggest you start on a strong (26mg) e-juice, good luck with it.

    I found the Tornado I picked up from Totally Wicked to be far superior as a vape than the 510 I got from thevapourstore.ie. The Janty (I think it's the same manufacturer as Janty for TW atomisers) atomisers were far superior to the atomisers I got from thevapourstore.ie. I'll need to check them with a multimeter but I think the Janty ones are lower ohmage which makes for a hotter, better throat hit vape with more vapour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 522 ✭✭✭gbob


    nesf wrote: »
    I found the Tornado I picked up from Totally Wicked to be far superior as a vape than the 510 I got from thevapourstore.ie. The Janty (I think it's the same manufacturer as Janty for TW atomisers) atomisers were far superior to the atomisers I got from thevapourstore.ie. I'll need to check them with a multimeter but I think the Janty ones are lower ohmage which makes for a hotter, better throat hit vape with more vapour.

    Yeah checked out totalywicked a few times, AFAIR their shipping was very expensive, have they become any more reasonable?


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 9,012 Mod ✭✭✭✭mewso


    The other alternative is the official Ego (the Tornado on Totally Wicked) which can be bought here - http://www.ivapour.co.uk/janty-ego/janty-ego-set.html?SID=mitjv0p66utr6l60m0fj8d0do4

    The guy that runs ivapour is on ukvapers and seems a good bloke. He also runs http://ivapour-elixir.co.uk/ for selling non-janty stuff (Silver Bullet etc.) but the 510 atomizers there are probably Joye/Janty of the lower ohm type too if you don't need a set. Joye/Janty 510 atomizers are 2.3ohms wheras DSE/SLB 510s are 3ohm so there is a difference.

    Liberty Flights also do 2.3ohm 510 attomizers. In fact the 3ohm 510s seem harder to find to me. I didn't realise vapourstore did them. Handy for 5V mods :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,645 ✭✭✭✭nesf


    gbob wrote: »
    Yeah checked out totalywicked a few times, AFAIR their shipping was very expensive, have they become any more reasonable?

    Nah, still a tenner for shipping the bastards. Works out ok if you get a bunch of attys, juice, batteries etc in one order.

    Another option for Janty stuff is this French site:https://france.jantyworld.com/

    Shipping is very reasonable with them. For a pack of five LR atomisers it was €2 uninsured, €6 insured postage.


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