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John Delaney rebel song

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭not yet


    golfball37 wrote: »
    John Aldridge said they all sang rebel songs on the team bus back in big Jack's days. His own personal favourite was Sean South.

    How is this frowned upon ffs?

    My only beef would be Joe McDonnell is too long winded and slow for a pub sing song so it was a bad choice.

    I get the feeling ''people'' are ok with rebel songs pre-troubles..

    Anything after that is to close to the bone. The wolf tones etc are acceptable with Sean south and Dying rebel etc, but throw in Read the roll of honour or Black watch and the west brits come out in force..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    A complete disgrace to Irish football. The man is paid more than many of the chiefs of the best leagues in the world. How does his role merit that kind of money? Lets be honest the FAI is a mickey mouse organisation that is miles behind the GAA and IRFU. I was reading that the IRFU chief comands €125k a year while Delaney rakes in €400k for doing sweet F all. LOI winners only get €100k a year.

    Delaneys relationship with Denis O'Brien is also quite an unhealthy one as evidenced by the indo stories and videos about claiming that he is John the Baptist and general promotional videos. Im sorry but for me its just another example of someone paying themselves far more than they should command while Its the kids and LOI clubs that suffer. That type of crap is all to familiar on this island.

    Also singing a song is a non-story and interesting to see he was straight on the counter attack in the indos with stories about his missus being cyber bullied.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    A complete disgrace to Irish football. The man is paid more than many of the chiefs of the best leagues in the world. How does his role merit that kind of money? Lets be honest the FAI is a mickey mouse organisation that is miles behind the GAA and IRFU. I was reading that the IRFU chief comands €125k a year while Delaney rakes in €400k for doing sweet F all. LOI winners only get €100k a year.

    Delaneys relationship with Denis O'Brien is also quite an unhealthy one as evidenced by the indo stories and videos about claiming that he is John the Baptist and general promotional videos. Im sorry but for me its just another example of someone paying themselves far more than they should command while Its the kids and LOI clubs that suffer. That type of crap is all to familiar on this island.

    Also singing a song is a non-story and interesting to see he was straight on the counter attack in the indos with stories about his missus being cyber bullied.

    Supply and Demand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    This is a non-story.

    Right ban rebel songs, then sure why not ban songs with curse words in case we offend others!!! *shock, horror*

    He may be a bit of a b*llox, but im not going to crucify him over singing rebel songs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    An apology and then a dig at people calling them sly.

    For recording him singing in a public house. Boo hoo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 137 ✭✭IrishCule


    Also singing a song is a non-story and interesting to see he was straight on the counter attack in the indos with stories about his missus being cyber bullied.

    Complete BS stuff to turn people against YBIG because they are the ones putting alot of the pressure on JD. I was on the thread at the time and there was 2 posts made that were out of order and within an hour or 2 they were deleted and the two lads banned AND an apology was posted by the site owner, yet according to Emma in that space of time she became sick to her stomach, her kids were traumatised, she wont accept the apology and she has no choice but to pursue legal action.

    Haven't been so pissed off by a news article in a long while, really shows that 90% of **** in the papers is complete bull****.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Rebel songs are abhorrent, as is the singing of them.

    Do you also find "Le Marseillaise" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" and the singing of them equally abhorrent, since both are rebel songs ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭Sheep Lover


    golfball37 wrote: »
    John Aldridge said they all sang rebel songs on the team bus back in big Jack's days. His own personal favourite was Sean South.

    How is this frowned upon ffs?

    My only beef would be Joe McDonnell is too long winded and slow for a pub sing song so it was a bad choice.

    It's a good sing song though, I wonder did he give his rendition of "Stick your decommission up your ass"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    IrishCule wrote: »
    Complete BS stuff to turn people against YBIG because they are the ones putting alot of the pressure on JD. I was on the thread at the time and there was 2 posts made that were out of order and within an hour or 2 they were deleted and the two lads banned AND an apology was posted by the site owner, yet according to Emma in that space of time she became sick to her stomach, her kids were traumatised, she wont accept the apology and she has no choice but to pursue legal action.

    Haven't been so pissed off by a news article in a long while, really shows that 90% of **** in the papers is complete bull****.

    Yeah , it really is. I copped it when Vincent Brown was reading out the headlines the other night. Two Delaney stories at odds with each other on different papers one of them being Denis O'Briens rag. Guess which one was in favour of Delaney? Also papers have been shown up for what they are over the past few weeks during the water protests. Full of sh1t!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    IrishCule wrote: »
    she wont accept the apology and she has no choice but to pursue legal action.

    Ah yeah, just what the Delaneys need- yet more money.

    The existence of these people is an excellent argument for communism. I'm anything but left wing, but I turn into Lenin when I see their smug, self-entitled faces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,597 ✭✭✭Witchie


    DylanAFC wrote: »
    Hopefully it's the start of his demise though. The man is a complete disgrace and doesn't have the best interest of Irish football at heart. Where was he when Monaghan went bust, on the piss in Gdansk.

    We didn't actually go "bust" we stepped out of the league before that would happen to try and save our club for our community.

    As for him singing this song, I think it is awful. As the leader of the FAI it is totally inappropriate. He is the public face of the Football Association in Ireland and has to meet with heads of other FA's including the Northern Ireland one.

    There has been talk for many years of amalgamation of the 2 FA's on this island and going down the route of the IRFU but that is not very likely when you have a gombeen like John singing songs like this.

    Imagine if Jim Shaw, Alex Horne or Stewart Regan were singing sectarian songs!

    This is very much a story and Mr Delaney is once more a laughing stock.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6A-ucLv44Y

    My favourite one...........


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 489 ✭✭Sclosages


    diddley di de dumpty di


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,597 ✭✭✭dan1895


    The irony of John Delaney being criticised for singing songs tastes sweet in my mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Witchie wrote: »
    As the leader of the FAI it is totally inappropriate. He is the public face of the Football Association in Ireland

    and considering half the irish team is english,


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    Well the FAI is actually a Leinster splinter group of the original IFA, so if there going to be reunification the fai will have to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Do you also find "Le Marseillaise" and "The Star-Spangled Banner" and the singing of them equally abhorrent, since both are rebel songs ?

    Are either of those marketed at barstoolers that would crap themselves if they saw an Armalite?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭FatherTed


    1. Who gives a fcuk?
    2. Delaney is an awful singer. He should stick to what he's good at. Which is...can't think of anything. Does anyone know what he's good?
    3. There are a lot better rebel songs than that one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Are either of those marketed at barstoolers that would crap themselves if they saw an Armalite?

    I doubt many in America would crap themselves at the sight of a gun tbh as they are so easy to get and it would seem plenty of households have one!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Good on yeah John, great tune, I have been known to sing it myself with a skinful though I usually forget the words half way through


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    I personally don't see a problem with singing Irish rebel songs, I have no loyalty to Delaney but plenty of high profile people admit to enjoying them.

    The Irish football team Roy Keane admits played them on team bus, I remember seeing the limerick hurling team on Rte news singing it couple years ago before or after a game.

    There are plenty of rebel songs which are not actually any good and seem to only offend and I don't like those personally but each to their own I guess.

    Personally for the 1916 commemoration I am expecting it to be a no expense spared affair to remember some real Irish heroes, sadly nobody in the Dáil are fit to fill their shoes, from 1916 to our independence, so will probably be a let down.

    Anyway back on topic Delaney is an eejit and sooner the better for Irish football he is gone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,718 ✭✭✭golfball37


    not yet wrote: »
    I get the feeling ''people'' are ok with rebel songs pre-troubles..

    Anything after that is to close to the bone. The wolf tones etc are acceptable with Sean south and Dying rebel etc, but throw in Read the roll of honour or Black watch and the west brits come out in force..

    Thats my suspicion also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    I personally don't see a problem with singing Irish rebel songs, I have no loyalty to Delaney but plenty of high profile people admit to enjoying them.

    The Irish football team Roy Keane admits played them on team bus, I remember seeing the limerick hurling team on Rte news singing it couple years ago before or after a game.

    There are plenty of rebel songs which are not actually any good and seem to only offend and I don't like those personally but each to their own I guess.

    Personally for the 1916 commemoration I am expecting it to be a no expense spared affair to remember some real Irish heroes, sadly nobody in the Dáil are fit to fill their shoes, from 1916 to our independence, so will probably be a let down.

    Anyway back on topic Delaney is an eejit and sooner the better for Irish football he is gone.

    I read somewhere of someone comparing him as an Irish version of Alan Partridge. After having a couple of scoops with JD before I tend to agree! Comes across as full of it and frankly not so bright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Imagine if we had no rebel songs, sure it wouldn't be worth your while going to any residents bar after a good wedding :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,268 ✭✭✭Oops!


    I read somewhere of someone comparing him as an Irish version of Alan Partridge. After having a couple of scoops with JD before I tend to agree! Comes across as full of it and frankly not so bright.

    All he's missing is the Lexus.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    Are either of those marketed at barstoolers that would crap themselves if they saw an Armalite?

    Besides the point, you made a blanket condemnation of all rebel songs.

    Most rebel songs will have had their origins in times of violent insurrection, just like Le Marseillaise and The Star Spangled Banner. The admittedly cynical marketing and bar stool nonsense came later.

    Rebel songs in and of themselves are not abhorrent, it's the context they are used in and way in which they are used that's the issue.

    If someone sings one among friends in a pub, that is perfectly fine to me. If someone bawls one aggressively at English fans filing peaceable out of the Aviva then, yes, that is abhorrent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    DeadHand wrote: »
    Rebel songs in and of themselves are not abhorrent, it's the context they are used in and way in which they are used that's the issue.

    well the issue is...john delaney is the president of the FAI so in that context its wrong

    imagine if the president of the scottish FA was caught singing the Sash there would be uproar amongst the irish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭wendell borton


    fryup wrote: »
    well the issue is...john delaney is the president of the FAI so in that context its wrong

    imagine if the president of the scottish FA was caught singing the Sash there would be uproar amongst the irish

    I'd have no problem with it, it commenerates historical events rather than cause insult.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    well its insulting to victims of IRA violence


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    fryup wrote: »
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    well its insulting to victims of IRA violence

    The most insulting thing about Delaney and the FAI is the money they're on, not whatever tune they happen to sing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Highflyer13


    The more senior you become in any organisation the greater the expectation on you to represent that organisation in a professional manner at all times. It's all well and good saying that he was in a pub in a private capacity, but that pub was just around the corner from the stadium, not long after the match. If there were sponsors, affiliates, other FAI officials or US officials there then as far as I'm concerned he is still on the clock and should act accordingly. Even if he was just there with friends, he would have known that there were people there who knew him as the CEO of the FAI so he should be behaving in an appropriate manner.


    I don't have an issue with the song itself, or with people singing it, or even with John Delaney singing it (if he gets lessons next time that would be good though), I think it is inappropriate for the CEO of the FAI to be singing in a pub in the hours leading up to or after a match, any song, he represents Irish football and he does that all the time, not just in the 90 minutes of the game. His dealings with the media and the public at any time reflect on the FAI. He might think that is unfair, but the same rules apply to the CEO of any organisation. If the CEO of my company went for a few drinks in a pub after the AGM and started singing he would more than likely be sacked.



    I don't know if he was drunk when he was singing, but he was certainly drunk when he was being carried around in Poland with no shoes on. I thought that was unacceptable behaviour from the CEO then and I think this is now. It's not about the song it's about his public persona. The song itself doesn't help as it would be considered offensive to some people in other countries that he will be dealing with in the next few months.



    Now maybe he likes to have a sing song in the pub after every match, and this was just him doing what he always does, but given he was well aware that people were angry with the ticket situation, given the protest had just been suppressed by stewards and Gardai if not on his orders certainly with his knowledge, and given there is an ongoing level of anger at his management of domestic football he should be well aware that appearing in a pub and singing a song would not go down well with the various supporters who are pissed off with him, and in this day and age anyone doing anything in a public place should not be surprised if it is caught on camera.



    He constantly shows errors of judgement in how he protrays himself publically, that reflects negatively on the FAI and as the CEO it should be his job to portray a positive image of that organisation, he is failing to do that, and he is failing in other more important areas of his job in my opinion.

    Thought that was a great post on YBIG. The man is being rewarded for acting the clown and failing. He reminds me of some of our politicians actually. Ah sure as long as its a bit of craic. He is well known for buying the fans beer to win their affections. Its starting to wear thin now with many Ireland fans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Cantremember




    Now, Delaney had a donkey...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Delaney: "Am I doing a good job?"
    Delaney: "That's a good question."
    Delaney: "I'm glad I asked myself that."
    Delaney: "Yes, I am doing an excellent job."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭yipeeeee


    Christmas number one?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    FatherTed wrote: »
    1.
    3. There are a lot better rebel songs than that one

    Not many better than. That tbf for a rebel song about someone who Died on a peaceful protest written anywhere in the world...I seen a lad singing it one night after hours in a hotel which would in all honesty put the hairs standing on the back of you head...not great if not sung well though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    The only thing more embarrassing than Delaney would be if it's him singing a song that ends up leading to his demise.

    After all his other gaffes and fcuk-ups.. it's this that rouses the rabble the most. Hard to know whether to laugh or cry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Sclosages wrote: »
    I was banned off a website for posting a rebel song. Apparently a lady was traumatised. She was from Belfast. Dreadful stuff. God bless her. Same song is on every jukebox in rural Ireland.

    I'd post it here though I'd probably be banned lol...

    Ah - feck it - here it is.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s2MSVaXNqQ

    If I'm banned - good luck lol

    Raise you two.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    He was crying on the radio today about intrusion. He was actually crying.

    I'll give him a tip.

    Separate his personal life from his job.

    He is a ceo - if he is going for a few drinks or having a bit of a party - don't do this around the time of the internationals. This is the 3rd or 4th time - around the time of internationals he has done this.

    He is a ceo - how many ceos - go on The Late Late Show or even The Saturday night show and carry on as if they are a celebrity - he was in the paper a few weeks ago saying he is in love.

    John - time to go. You are a fan - not a ceo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Oops! wrote: »
    All he's missing is the Lexus.....

    The Japanese Mercedes!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    He is well known for buying the fans beer to win their affections. Its starting to wear thin now with many Ireland fans.
    That's worst part of the whole John Delaney thing. Not him buying pints, but the fact that fans are so idiotic to think he's a "legend" for buying drinks. Jesus wept, a pint in Poland costs about €2, are they actually bought that cheaply?
    He was crying on the radio today about intrusion. He was actually crying.

    I heard the clip. Surely you now that John Delaney is the victim in all this. Anyone who apologises by saying "if you were offended, I am sorry" is an ársehole.

    And not only that, he wants the forum "YBIG" shut down!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭DeadHand


    fryup wrote: »
    well the issue is...john delaney is the president of the FAI so in that context its wrong

    imagine if the president of the scottish FA was caught singing the Sash there would be uproar amongst the irish

    I'm with you, my friend, Delaney's an appalling fool.

    Considering his position, he had no business in that pub in the first place let alone lashing out the IRA songs a short time before matches with Scotland and England. I certainly wasn't defending him.

    The point I was trying to make was that the singing of rebel songs is not an inherently abhorrent act, as had been claimed.

    It's context, context, context.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭Busted Flat.


    The man has no class

    The last time I heard that sort of a comment was back in the eighties, It was made by some politician on a pedestal of honesty, integrity and put on his pedestal by the main stream media. Reading between the lines of Fionn Sheahan article regarding the Ansbacher accounts, this pillar of honesty, integrity and clarity will be exposed. Not trying to go off post, I do not like people talking about class, IMO those who talk about class are lacking in the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    This is a vendetta against John Delaney now.

    John has done this type of thing for years and years.

    He is fond of a few drinks and a sing-song with the fans after matches.

    He is a big fan and supporter as well as CEO and likes to have a bit of a laugh.

    Perhaps he may go too far for a CEO but it is pathetic that somebody took advantage and forwarded the video to the media.

    There is no 'news' here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,094 ✭✭✭forgotten password


    olé olé ole ole olé ole


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Oops! wrote: »
    All he's missing is the Lexus.....

    It's not a brown Toyota, it's a coffee coloured Lexus


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  • Registered Users Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Running Balance


    Just watched the YouTube video and I'm TOTALLY OUTRAGED!!!

    People talking and a man trying to sing! :mad:

    yeah he needs someone following him around going ssshhh ssshhh give him a chance..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭drumswan


    This is a vendetta against John Delaney now.

    John has done this type of thing for years and years.

    He is fond of a few drinks and a sing-song with the fans after matches.

    He is a big fan and supporter as well as CEO and likes to have a bit of a laugh.

    Perhaps he may go too far for a CEO but it is pathetic that somebody took advantage and forwarded the video to the media.

    There is no 'news' here

    The news is that Delaney is an unprofessional idiot. Any stick used to beat this gob****e out of Irish football is alright by me.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What is embarrassing is your post. It shows no knowledge of the history of Irish football and where it came from.
    Facilities have improved greatly, and football has made great strides outside the big cities.
    Also more people play football every weekend than any other sport.

    Gaa and rugby historically were well supported by patrons with money. Football never had anything like the same financial support down the years.

    But keep plugging your populist rubbish - FAI bad, JD bad if it makes you feel good.

    As for him singing a rebel song - to me it's a non issue.

    Why does this guy earn 4 times more per annum then the champions get for winning the league? This is where the discontent with him lies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 41 Drummer1967


    Fudge You wrote: »
    Awful singer.
    And a clown too.

    Arrogant clown that should have been sacked years ago!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,997 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    There are very few CEOs that carry on like him.

    Ok maybe Michael O'Leary. But he is so good he can do anything he likes.

    Why is he going onto TV shows talking about his love life ?


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