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PiP Implants support thread - Irish petition in post #1

  • 21-12-2011 1:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭


    kyra123 wrote: »
    Hi girls,

    Have just gotten word that if we can get some serious numbers on this petition we can get some media coverage and high light this issue with support.

    Please get this on face book, twitter, ask family, friends, boyfriends, husband to sign,

    Your name can be hidden from public vew, you will be asked to give an e mail address just so they can check your not spam, your address with also be hidden from public vew and the e mail is a once off, your address will not go to a third party as long as you tick the box.

    I am trying to drum up media attention to this so please help any way you can. I have a widgit if any one would like to put it on their blog, this would be a direct link to the petition.

    Please sign if you can
    the link is as

    PiP Petition - Ireland

    _______________________________________________________________

    http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16134505
    Health experts insist there is no evidence that British women with silicone breast implants made by a French company need to have them removed.

    Medical authorities in France are expected to tell 30,000 women with a certain type of breast implant to have them taken out.
    "The message here is not to panic," he said.

    "The advice is unchanged. Women with PIP implants should be checked by the clinic where they had their surgery and can then be monitored afterwards.

    "These implants have a higher failure rate so there will be women who might choose to have their implants removed before that happens, whereas others will be happy to be monitored."

    So, don't panic, but have the implants checked out if the implants were made by a French company called "PIP".


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Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭harrythehat


    I could never voluntarily go under the knife.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    If someone has a good enough reason that is one thing, i.e someone getting a nose job for psychological reasons, removing excess skin.

    But I am skeptical of these procedures that are driven by the beauty industry, as long as they're not natural looking fair play I just feel so bad for these women having to go under the knife again, nightmare.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    Saa,

    Not all that is done is driven by the beauty industry, a lot can be a self concious issue after truama / illness.

    I would suspect a lot of breast implant surgeries are a result of having Cancer and wanting to return themselves to their shape.

    I know of a few women personally who have done this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Hrm. To the invisible poster, maybe get a doctor to check it out. I wouldn't know where to go that will have the corrects machines to do a scan, but maybe the ladies here may know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    Saa,

    Not all that is done is driven by the beauty industry, a lot can be a self concious issue after truama / illness.

    I would suspect a lot of breast implant surgeries are a result of having Cancer and wanting to return themselves to their shape.

    I know of a few women personally who have done this.


    That's what I was saying the reason for getting an op (like I mentioned psychological reasons or removing excess skin as in restoring to previous shape that goes for breast surgeries as well jeeze) is important some are not done for those reasons and that worries me greatly even though a woman can do what ever she wants with her body I am suspicious of the push from the beauty industry there is an agenda there and this permeates into many areas of surgery and procedures.

    I know people who have has had this procedure because of suffering from cancer and for other reasons that are less serious but not motivated by striving for perfection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 517 ✭✭✭rich.d.berry


    I just saw on the news that the 30000 French women with the implants are being given the option of having them removed at tax-payer's expense.

    Would you be happy if the Irish health services gave the 1500 Irish women that option?

    I, for one, would object. Why should my tax money go to pay for someone's elective surgery? Surely they were made aware of the risks when they went under the knife?.

    The only exception I would make would be for women who've had reconstructed breasts after mastectomies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,648 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    A product recall should put the cost burden on the manufacturer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭shinikins


    I just saw on the news that the 30000 French women with the implants are being given the option of having them removed at tax-payer's expense.

    Would you be happy if the Irish health services gave the 1500 Irish women that option?

    I, for one, would object. Why should my tax money go to pay for someone's elective surgery? Surely they were made aware of the risks when they went under the knife?.

    The only exception I would make would be for women who've had reconstructed breasts after mastectomies.

    I would, yes, if it was the HSE that passed them as medically safe in the first place. From what I've gathered, the French government approved these implants, so they definitely bear a responsibilty towards the 30'000+ women who are affected. I'm sure they were made aware of the potential risks of surgery, but were they told that the material used was inferior, and not medically safe? I doubt it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    I have these pip implants and i am terrified i had the surgery in 2007 for psycholigical reasons for confidence as i didnt feel like a real woman and i have never looked bak it really help me but i paid €6000 for this and the compny i went with were great but now when we really need them they are not there for us this has really put a dampner on xmas fir our family im so worried and now i bet we will not b looked after i just want them taken out now


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2011/1223/breaking4.html

    The Irish Medical Board (IMB) is not really alarmed about the news;
    In a statement issued this afternoon, the IMB said it noted the findings of the French expert committee confirming that there is “no evidence" of an increased risk of cancer for women with PIP breast implants compared to women with other breast implants.

    FYI;
    The implants were used at the following clinics and hospitals: Shandon Street Hospital in Cork, Clane Hospital in Co Kildare and Harley Medical Clinic in Dublin.

    The article notes that 300,000 to 400,000 women throughout the world (such as Italy, Spain, Venezuela, Brazil and elsewhere) used the PIP implants. As nothing has been reported by now, I'd say it'd be likely that they should be safe enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 sunshine76


    jeano8 wrote: »
    I have these pip implants and i am terrified i had the surgery in 2007 for psycholigical reasons for confidence as i didnt feel like a real woman and i have never looked bak it really help me but i paid €6000 for this and the compny i went with were great but now when we really need them they are not there for us this has really put a dampner on xmas fir our family im so worried and now i bet we will not b looked after i just want them taken out now
    Hi Jean08,

    I think I have the same type of implants and I cannot get in touch with the clinic....did you the operation done in cork? I am getting worried too but I think the best thing to do now is to get an ultrasound scan to make sure that implants are still in good conditions and then get checked every six months...if you decide to get them removed I think it is our right to be able to contact the original hospital...mine was done in shandon clinic but I dont understand whether they have closed down or what...at least the harley medical group have posted a reassuring message on their web site..this shandon clinic seemed to have disappeared...


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    sunshine76 wrote: »
    jeano8 wrote: »
    I have these pip implants and i am terrified i had the surgery in 2007 for psycholigical reasons for confidence as i didnt feel like a real woman and i have never looked bak it really help me but i paid €6000 for this and the compny i went with were great but now when we really need them they are not there for us this has really put a dampner on xmas fir our family im so worried and now i bet we will not b looked after i just want them taken out now
    Hi Jean08,

    I think I have the same type of implants and I cannot get in touch with the clinic....did you the operation done in cork? I am getting worried too but I think the best thing to do now is to get an ultrasound scan to make sure that implants are still in good conditions and then get checked every six months...if you decide to get them removed I think it is our right to be able to contact the original hospital...mine was done in shandon clinic but I dont understand whether they have closed down or what...at least the harley medical group have posted a reassuring message on their web site..this shandon clinic seemed to have disappeared...

    I had my operation in clane hospital and hav been in touch with the company ajd am awaiting reply so i will contact them again on tuesday i hav also contactd a solicitor amd will be pursuing this matter i dont see why we should hav paid such a large amount of money to have been given unsafe and low grade implants and then ignored by the people in question its just ridiculous we do have rights even if we got this procedure for cosmetic reasons or any other reason we are still human beings and just because we had a surgery to help us or for any other reason we should be able to hold someone accountable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,648 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Just out of intrest, what do you expect to gain by using a solicitor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    ted1 wrote: »
    A product recall should put the cost burden on the manufacturer

    The problem here in France is, that the manufacturer is no longer trading. So they would not be able to take the cost burden in any case.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Poppygal


    I just got the all clear today from the clinic I attended in 2007. What a relief.

    As for judgemental women commenting and casting aspersions on women having this procedure done, walk in my shoes before damning us all as shallow people striving for perfection....not everything in life is so black and white, IMO.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    ted1 wrote: »
    Just out of intrest, what do you expect to gain by using a solicitor?
    I expect to be dealt with and have these toxic implants removed not ignored and swept under the carpet the way we are being made feel right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    jeano8 wrote: »
    we should be able to hold someone accountable.
    Since that someone has gone out of business, I wonder who it'll be?


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    the_syco wrote: »
    jeano8 wrote: »
    we should be able to hold someone accountable.
    Since that someone has gone out of business, I wonder who it'll be?
    The private company that all of us women paid such a large amount to have this proceedure done with and who made so much money off us as it has now come to light that these pip implants were deemd unsafe up to 5 years ago and also consumer rights are saying that they should be held accountable as they must stand by their product or service in line with consumer rights and also healthcare professionals are saying that these private organisations hav a moral and legal obligation to the women that they operated on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    i cant understand those who have no sympathy with those who had the PIP implants.
    Surely this is not about why, but more about the infeior quality of and danger now these women are exposed to.
    No one got them for free, no one is looking for the taxpayer to pay, we ae just looking for a potentially faulty product to be either repaced or some assurance that we will be looked after if a problem occurs.

    What ever your view on cosmetic procedures, a medical service/procedure should come with the highest assurances..If the Private Clinics fail to do this, then they should not be in business.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,648 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    I was just curious as to why someone would go straight down the legal route as oppose to getting a reply from the the hospital.

    some of the articles have people looking for compensation, and are viewing it as nicer earner.



    If there is a problem it should be addressed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Is there any specific reason why people who have been given implants now declared unsafe shouldn't pursue the legal route - hospital answer or no? I've never understood the resentment or apparent begrudgery towards those who pursue their legal rights in cases of medical negligence...there is absolutely no reason why those affected, who have had to take the time and disruption to undergo two GA's and all associated risks, never mind whatever risks associated with the implants themselves should consider themselves satisfied with a letter of explanation/apology as to why they were told the implants were perfectly safe - and surely it IS addressing the issue in a manner that any hospital, health service or organisation is going to have to pay attention to. :confused:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    My opinion on this is the same as it would be for any other faulty product. If it is determined that a woman has these implants they should be replaced, end of story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,648 ✭✭✭✭ted1


    Karsini, men have them too to replace testicles lost to cancer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.
    I'm guessing it will be old Bill Taxpayer!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    Surely there is all manner of dodgy and sub-standard products produced every day - but if such a product is given the all clear as safe to use by the relevant professional body designated to ensure such dodgy and sub-standard products do not get the official stamp of approval, then I presume whatever body that didn't do their homework properly is going to be held responsible...?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ted1 wrote: »
    Karsini, men have them too to replace testicles lost to cancer.
    You learn something new every day. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 lickle mushroom


    Hi,

    I found out today that I am one of the 1500 women in Ireland that have PIP implants. When I first heard of the scare I tried to contact Shandon Street Hospital in Cork(the clinic that I attended) - only to find that they had gone into liquidation in March 2011. My fears were confirmed today when a friend heard a radio interview naming the hospital as one of the 3 in Ireland that had been using the PIP implant.

    I intend to talk to my GP tomorrow to schedule an exam to determine if my implants are still intact but after that I don't know what I can do.

    My breast augmentation in 2005 was a major undertaking for me, both personally and financially. At that time in my life I had a very poor body image and low self esteem and I believed that breast augmentation would solve everything. I saved up for a very long time to be able to afford the operation but felt it was worth it. Although it didn't solve 'everything' it did help with my body issues and confidence in myself.

    I'm now left wondering how the hell I will be able to afford to pay for surgery to replace the defective implants. I am also wondering why the hell I should have to pay for them seeing as they were a faulty product! Would consumer rights still apply in this situation (repair/replace/refund)? As the company is now in liquidation is there anywhere else I can turn? Incidentally, I tried the HSE website to see what their advice would be and I uncovered NOTHING on the issue!

    If there are any of the other 1500 women here on boards it would be great to make contact and share information. Or if anyone else can offer some advice it would be greatly appreciated.

    LM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    jeano8 wrote: »
    The private company that all of us women paid such a large amount to have this proceedure done with and who made so much money off us as it has now come to light that these pip implants were deemd unsafe up to 5 years ago and also consumer rights are saying that they should be held accountable as they must stand by their product or service in line with consumer rights and also healthcare professionals are saying that these private organisations hav a moral and legal obligation to the women that they operated on

    Jean I've just joined Boards.ie today because I'm totally confused about what to do on this matter. I was in <snip> for a check up today because I have the PIP implants (from 2006). I am being sent to the <snip> for a scan to ensure that there is no rupture. The surgeon believes that my implants are intact from his brief examination, but the scan will confirm either way. I assume I will have the scan within the coming week or so.

    If the implants have ruptured at all, they will be removed and replaced by <snip> for free. However, I should have asked if they can be removed and replaced because of the issues that have come to light.

    The surgeon also told me that, if there is no rupture I should leave them in place and that I should plan to have them replaced in 2016 either way. However, I do see from other websites that implants should come with a lifetime guarantee.

    Now I see this evening that the NHS in Wales is prepared to remove & replace the PIP implants for all women living in Wales who have them.

    What upsets me as much as anything else is that I believed <snip> was an excellent clinic with extremely high standards. I now read that these implants were 10 times cheaper than other implants on the market. Yet my operation was not 10 times cheaper, in fact it was the most expensive clinic in Ireland at the time for this operation.

    I'm angry with myself that I didn't ask the question about just having them replaced rupture or no rupture. I saw that one other woman went in to the surgeon with, what I presume, was her husband, and another woman went in with a friend. I just felt a bit on the back foot which is not like me. Maybe it is because of the type of surgery.....

    I don't know what to do or what to insist on for the best. Any advise/help/support would be appreciated.
    Sorry this post is so long and all over the place. I'm very upset.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Hey lickle mushroom,

    As there are other women posting in this thread who have been affected, I've moved your post here so you may discuss.

    All the best. :cool:


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    ted1 wrote: »
    I was just curious as to why someone would go straight down the legal route as oppose to getting a reply from the the hospital.

    some of the articles have people looking for compensation, and are viewing it as nicer earner.



    If there is a problem it should be addressed.
    I have contacted the imb the health deparrment the company i had the surgery with and no one wants to deal with it so what are we supposed to do? Just out of interest why such an opinion on this matter do you have the pip testicles


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    jeano8 wrote: »
    The private company that all of us women paid such a large amount to have this proceedure done with and who made so much money off us as it has now come to light that these pip implants were deemd unsafe up to 5 years ago and also consumer rights are saying that they should be held accountable as they must stand by their product or service in line with consumer rights and also healthcare professionals are saying that these private organisations hav a moral and legal obligation to the women that they operated on

    Jean I've just joined Boards.ie today because I'm totally confused about what to do on this matter. I was in <snip> for a check up today because I have the PIP implants (from 2006). I am being sent to the <snip> for a scan to ensure that there is no rupture. The surgeon believes that my implants are intact from his brief examination, but the scan will confirm either way. I assume I will have the scan within the coming week or so.

    If the implants have ruptured at all, they will be removed and replaced by <snip> for free. However, I should have asked if they can be removed and replaced because of the issues that have come to light.

    The surgeon also told me that, if there is no rupture I should leave them in place and that I should plan to have them replaced in 2016 either way. However, I do see from other websites that implants should come with a lifetime guarantee.

    Now I see this evening that the NHS in Wales is prepared to remove & replace the PIP implants for all women living in Wales who have them.

    What upsets me as much as anything else is that I believed <snip> was an excellent clinic with extremely high standards. I now read that these implants were 10 times cheaper than other implants on the market. Yet my operation was not 10 times cheaper, in fact it was the most expensive clinic in Ireland at the time for this operation.

    I'm angry with myself that I didn't ask the question about just having them replaced rupture or no rupture. I saw that one other woman went in to the surgeon with, what I presume, was her husband, and another woman went in with a friend. I just felt a bit on the back foot which is not like me. Maybe it is because of the type of surgery.....

    I don't know what to do or what to insist on for the best. Any advise/help/support would be appreciated.
    Sorry this post is so long and all over the place. I'm very upset.
    I know exactly how you feel im still awaiting my company to even confirm if i hav the pip implants i have contacted the imb the health department looked all over the internet and we women in ireland seem to be kust ledt to our own devices with no direction from any governing body it is just so frustrating let me know how you get on with ur scan im still in limbo here


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Poppygal


    To the ladies who have been affected....Had I found myself with these implants I would without a doubt be seeking legal advice. I would also be expressing all my concerns, with the hospital in question, in writing and keeping a record of all communication in writing.
    Most importantly though, if I were in this boat, I would be looking to gather some strength in numbers. If a large number of the affected ladies could somehow join forces, the chances of a satisfactory outcome would be greatly increased. Why don't one of you ladies get yourselves onto somebody like Ray Darcy, Joe Duffy, whoever and do a shout out and arrange a meeting with affected ladies to discuss a plan of action. Could be very beneficial for a number of reasons, seeking legal advice and sharing costs being just one!
    Good luck to you ladies and keep us posted on progress x


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    Thansk Jean08 and Poppygal.
    I was hoping by joining the thread and by looking up what's happening on Boards.ie that I would know what other people are doing/demanding regarding their implants. I guess I just don't trust <snip> now to tell me whether they will replace them for free even if they are not ruptured.

    Poppygal your suggestion to put my concerns/dissatisfaction in writing is spot on. I should have thought of that already but didn't, so thanks for that. What I'm going to do is have the scan in the <snip> and take it from there. I will update this thread once that happens.

    In the meantime if anyone else knows what is being offered by the various clinics, please let us know. I would much prefer not to have a battle with the clinic on this and rather that they just treat everyone the same.

    Also, I see 2 Irish solicitor's web-sites which have a lot of information concerning this matter. Obviously they are looking for effected women to contact them if they want to go down the legal route. But even if you don't want to do that to start with, the websites are worth having a look at.
    http://www.mccarthy.ie/category/blog/medical-negligence/"]www.mccarthy.ie/category/blog/medical-negligence/

    www.lynchandpartners.com/pipdefectiveimplants.asp


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭calgary bound


    I am waiting to hear from <snip> if I had these implants. I had one implant in to recorrect breast assysmetry and unfortunatly the operation caused me many problems and I had to have further surgery due to infections etc. If I have a PIP implant it will be the last straw with this hospital, who I thought were a hospital with very high standards. Waiting for the phone to ring and I'm in a panic...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    Hi Calgary, would you mind updating the thread to let us know if you have PIP. The reason I ask is that although I didn't mention it in my original posts, <snip> did not write out to me. They said that they contacted everyone who has the PIP implants in 2010, but I don't appear to have received the letter...... I'd be interested to see if others also didn't receive the letter.....
    Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭calgary bound


    Hi Marguerite,
    I am still waiting to hear back from them but I will update you when I find out, I will be calling them back again before close of business today if I don't hear back. The reason I haven't contacted them before now is that I thought they contacted all affected patients but it seems not, sorry to hear that. This is very distressing and upsetting. I had the op in 2007 and it seems others had PIP implants in <snip> in 2007 so I'm not holding out much hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    Yes sorry Calgary, but when I asked them yesterday, they said 2005, 2006 and "some" in 2007. Maybe (hopefully) you are not one. They seemed very concerned that I hadn't received the letter in 2010, but who knows if it was ever sent... Yeah I am completely spun out about it. I really thought I was going to the best clinic for the operation. I received a call before lunch, so my appointment with the <snip> is in 2 weeks time. So from a positive point of view I guess it will give me more time to find out what others in my position are doing.
    Please God you'll get good news that yours is not PIP.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 149 ✭✭calgary bound


    Thanks Marguerite for updating me, at least they are in touch with you now and you have the appointment. Thanks I hope so too but it's an anxious wait, as I'm sure you are well aware. If I do have PIP I will definitely be going down the legal route to even just assess what options I have, if any. I will let you know as soon as I hear back.
    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 021tanya


    Hey ladies. I also had implants at <snip>l in 2005ish. it seems that they r pip but no way of finding out as they have gone out of business.... I have made an appointment with the <snip> for feb as I really didn't know what else to do!! Am afraid that they might be pushing replacement to line there own pockets,, and I don't have €5000 for this op. this is my first time hearing of 'pip implants' reading posts am shocked to hear they were questioning since 2010!!! Am shocked


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭SHELLBABE10


    Marguerite1, i also got my implants done in <snip> in 2005 and found out last week i have the pip implants.They said they sent out a letter to me 18 months ago but i have moved from the address they have for me so i never got it.So i cant say wether they really did send a letter or not.

    I went down yesterday to meet the surgeon, as im 5 1/2months pregnant i am more worried for my baby, which i have read that if the implants have ruptured it can get into your blood and then into the babies blood through the placenta.Now i said this to the surgeon and he said there is no way it can rupture into my blood stream because its a gel, he said it would be criminal for him to lie to me about that and put me and my baby at risk .This made me feel a little better but am still a little unsure wether i should believe him.Like you i am being sent to the beacon in 2 weeks time for my scan and have been told also if they have ruptured that they will be replaced free of charge although i couldnt have anything done till my baby is born.
    I did ask if mine are not ruptured is there an option been given to get the implants removed anyway.He told me if their not ruptured they wouldnt be removed but if i wanted them taken out anyway they will be coming up with a non profit price to have them removed.They said they should have a price in about a week if i wanted to ring back to check price though i will wait to see what happens in the beacon first and if mine havnt ruptured i will ring then to get price.I also asked them for a copy of my chart and consent form which they have agreed to and will ring me to collect it when its done.Its handy to have this incase i want to go down the legal route.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    Hi Shellbabe10.
    Sorry to hear about your news too. It's awful to have that worry when you're pregnant, it's the last thing you need. I assume, like me, the surgeon must be relatively positive that yours are intact if your scan isn't for another 2 weeks. So maybe we can take that as a positive sign in this negative situation. Also, I do think that he would have had to inform you of any possible risks or side effects to your baby.

    Thanks for letting me know about the "non profit" option for replacement that they are working on. I didn't ask, my head was all over the place.

    If other women are out there, and like me they have never posted on a Board, please join up so that we can all share the information we have.

    In the meantime Shellbabe10 please let me know when you get your scan done. I'm sure it'll be perfect, but something that you will have to deal with after your baby is born. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭lorrim


    Ladies - the clinic that has gone out of business, do you have the surgeons name? Try google, or the medical register, you maybe able to contact the surgeon. He/she may know the type of implants used. And as your doctor surely they'd have a duty of care to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Jakitto


    Hy Ladies
    I had my implants placed in <snip> by <snip> in 2003. Where do i start with my reaction to these faulty implants??? First off, I do not for one second believe that women who had these implants where contacted by the above mentioned company. I was completly reassured before surgery that these weer the best option to go for as i was very apprehensive about the chances of leaks with implants.
    I contacted the clinic after Christmas (i found out on Christmas day about this problem with PIP). I am STILL waiting for my records to be checked to confirm that i have PIP but they are 99% sure that i do. I am NOT happy in the least with this clinic. They are fobbing us off with an email that attempts to reassure us that there is little chance of ruptures and basically that this whole problem is being exaggerated????
    I have implants inside of me that i paid ALOT of money for, in good faith with trust in the clinic and they inserted a substandard product. They tell us that if we are showing no symptoms then we should have no concerns? so we just sit and wait for a symptom and then deal with it????. As an example- I would love to see the director of this clinic buy a car and realise at a later date that this car is faulty may or may not pose a serious and maybe life threatening risk to him or his family. So do you really think he continue to use this car and WAIT for a fault to appear or return to the company that sold it to him, hold them accountable and demand a replacement. I am so frustrated and fed up with the laid back attitude. I had the implants done as i was an A cup and had NO confidence.Yes the implants helped alot. I will have a scan on the 18th of this month, not by <snip> as i do not trust them anymore. Then i will meet a <snip> surgeon after that to discuss options. We should not have to pay for ANY removal or replacement as this should fall to the Clinic in question. I am not interested in their statistics or reassurances. I want them removed and replaced. I am not looking for compensation, just replacement and peace of mind. Is that too much to ask?.


  • Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭jeano8


    Hi Shellbabe10.
    Sorry to hear about your news too. It's awful to have that worry when you're pregnant, it's the last thing you need. I assume, like me, the surgeon must be relatively positive that yours are intact if your scan isn't for another 2 weeks. So maybe we can take that as a positive sign in this negative situation. Also, I do think that he would have had to inform you of any possible risks or side effects to your baby.

    Thanks for letting me know about the "non profit" option for replacement that they are working on. I didn't ask, my head was all over the place.

    If other women are out there, and like me they have never posted on a Board, please join up so that we can all share the information we have.

    In the meantime Shellbabe10 please let me know when you get your scan done. I'm sure it'll be perfect, but something that you will have to deal with after your baby is born. :)
    Yes ladies lets try stay positive here hopefully we will be able to get these implants out if we stick together there is power in numbers and shell i had 2 babies in the last 2 years and they are fine try to remember that if u had anything in ur blood stream it would have shown when u had ur bloods done in early pregnancy and why dont you discuss it with ur ob r midwife and put ur mind at rest let me know how ur scan goes


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Poppygal


    Just found this artice which may be of interest, according to John M. Lynch, Managing Partner at Lynch and Partners Solicitors in Clonmel, Co. Tipperary, time is limited on what action can be taken so really, anyone affected should act now and get your facts, even if you decided not to go down the legal route, find out what your legal position is which will allow you to make an informed decision, what ever that might be.

    http://insideireland.ie/2012/01/06/health-fears-and-legal-time-limits-for-irish-women-after-faulty-implants-48529/#comment-35542

    I would also suggest that anyone having trouble contacting their clinic for whatever reason, get in touch with the The Irish Medicines Board, surely they would be able to offer some advice on best course of action in this instance.

    Finally, worth a read, UK's plan for dealing with the situation over there http://mediacentre.dh.gov.uk/2012/01/06/statement-on-breast-implants/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Marguerite1


    Girls, I assume that by "anyone affected" they mean anyone with PIP implants? Not just anyone who has had trouble with them? Would that be your understanding too? Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 Larleane28


    Valmont wrote: »
    I'm guessing it will be old Bill Taxpayer!

    Jesus I'd be furious if this was the case. For women who've had reconstructive surgery after cancer no problem, fair enough, but no way in hell I'd pay for women who've just chosen to play 'let's pretend' with their own boobs by having them pumped full of plastic to appease their own vanity or alleviate their insecurities.


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